Does anyone agree that Jacob Hester is a better FB than Peyton Hillis?

[CowHog]

According to this article by Rick Gosselin of the Dallas Morning News he says that Hester is a better FB prospect than Hillis?!?!?  Now maybe he is a better RB prospect than Hillis, but I believe that Hillis is by far the best FB prospect in the draft....I mean Hillis may even be a little to small to be a "true" FB and if that is the case than Hester is nothing but a third down back (which is how I feel anyways).   Atleast Harrison is getting some love here though because he has him listed as the 4th best DT in the draft.How do y'all feel about this?

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/football/nfl/draft/gosselin_rankings.html

[Buff]

no

[braxhog]

NO

[Wild Bill Hog]

No agreement here.

[Richard_white]

I see nothing wrong with this.

Hester was a better runner and brusier than Hillis.  The only upside Hillis has over Hester, is his ability to catch the football.

Also, his ability to return punts...

[LightHog]

H--- no!

[drivetimeporks]

hester was the #1 weapon on lsu's team.. hillis may have been if he'd  not been in the backfield with jones and mcfadden.. hester's clearly the better FB in the draft

[J.A.Y.]

No

[Wildhog]

no...

[HOGINTENNESSEE]

It depends. If you want a FB who is fast, can run, block, and catch you go Hillis.

If you want a his overrated because he was on a two loss national champion team you go Hester.

[casken]

Hillis was (most often) under utilized in a plain vanilla offense.  When he was used...see last LSU game...the issue is quite debatable as to who is best.  If Hester is a better runner, Hillis has the best hands and is an impressive blocker.

WPS :razorback: :razorback: :razorback:

[SquidBilly]

Pure FB yes, maybe, but a bigger weapon absolutely not.  Hillis did everything short of playing defense and kicking FGs for us.  Remember two seasons ago when Hillis went down at the end of the year with the deep thigh bruise, I think we wound up losing four straight games without him.   

[drivetimeporks]

It depends. If you want a FB who is fast, can run, block, and catch you go Hillis.

If you want a his overrated because he was on a two loss national champion team you go Hester.

no.. the team was overrated..hester was a monster..did u  guys even watch lsu play?

[JBucc]

Can Hester block?

[hogchic2001]

Um...Nope.

[DeltaBoy]

HECK NO  if Hillis was with LSU he would have put up bigger numbers than Hester

[drivetimeporks]

freakin' homers..*sigh*

[Ragnar Hogbrok]

I'll say this in Spanish to iterate my point....NO!

But, Hester is a fine HB prospect, I'll give him that.

[bsking]

no.....

[mj4president]

hester was the #1 weapon on lsu's team.. hillis may have been if he'd  not been in the backfield with jones and mcfadden.. hester's clearly the better FB in the draft

You have to be out of your mind to make a statement like that. I truly believe that Hillis is twice the FB that Hester is. Hester looks fat. Hillis is a truck that can block in the nfl, run, and catch.

You must be drinking the Gary Danielson kool aid. Hester isn't close to what Hillis is.

[drivetimeporks]

You have to be out of your mind to make a statement like that. I truly believe that Hillis is twice the FB that Hester is. Hester looks fat. Hillis is a truck that can block in the nfl, run, and catch.

You must be drinking the Gary Danielson kool aid. Hester isn't close to what Hillis is.

get some game tape and watch amigo

[mj4president]

no.. the team was overrated..hester was a monster..did u  guys even watch lsu play?

Yes I watched us beat them down and watched Gary Danielson love on hester all night long. He is in love with him


Are you Gary Danielson?

[Hogginitall]

freakin' homers..*sigh*

Hillis averaged 0.3 yards less per carry (4.7 to 5.0) and averaged 2.1 yards more per reception (9.7 to 7.6) over his career.  Hester ran the ball more than Hillis and Hillis caught the ball more than Hester.  Hillis has shown that he is a better blocker in games.  Hester has been a RB in college, as Hillis would've been if not for McFadden and Jones. 

I'd say Hillis is the better FB right now.  Hester could turn out to be the better of the two, depending on how he improves. 

There is no doubt in my mind, however, that if you put Hillis with LSU, he would've outperformed Hester by quite a bit this year.

[gohogsgo006]

hester was the #1 weapon on lsu's team.. hillis may have been if he'd  not been in the backfield with jones and mcfadden.. hester's clearly the better FB in the draft

you sir, are wrong.

Hester was good only because he was consistent (4 yards a play, no fumbles, can catch decently), but he was not LSU's weapon.

[drivetimeporks]

im not saying that hester is gonnabe a better back in the nfl..who knows..what  i do know is that in crunch time, hester got the ball, and no on could
stop him... just b/c someone does wear a red uniform on saturday doesnt mean they cant play

[cosmodrum]

Hillis was (most often) under utilized in a plain vanilla offense.  When he was used...see last LSU game...the issue is quite debatable as to who is best.  If Hester is a better runner, Hillis has the best hands and is an impressive blocker.

WPS :razorback: :razorback: :razorback:

This is why Hillis is the better prospect. Very seldom does a FB take a handoff in the NFL. The are drafted to be an extra blocker and safety valve. Hillis fits the bill perfectly.

Hester will probably get drafted before Hillis, but Hillis will have a better career.

Mark it down, or whatever...

[wholehog92]

I like Hillis' pass blocking and catching and versatility.  I'd take Hester for running ability and a draw on run blocking.  That makes Hillis a better traditional fullback imho.  The issue becomes, not many teams are looking for a traditional fullback anymore.  Hester may well fit into todays schemes better.

[LM RZRBCK 29]

Hester is the better true runner hands down. By that i mean better vision and decision making. Hillis has pure athleticism. He's faster, bigger, and can catch the ball as good as many WR's. I see Hester being a third down back only and Hillis can be a mike alstott type fullback. Hester isn't fast enough or strong enough to be a every down tailback or fullback. I would love to have him on my team though. But, Hillis can play H-back, fully, and in third down situations. Is faster, stronger and more atheletic. Hillis hands down the better of the two.

[drivetimeporks]

Hester is the better true runner hands down. By that i mean better vision and decision making. Hillis has pure athleticism. He's faster, bigger, and can catch the ball as good as many WR's. I see Hester being a third down back only and Hillis can be a mike alstott type fullback. Hester isn't fast enough or strong enough to be a every down tailback or fullback. I would love to have him on my team though. But, Hillis can play H-back, fully, and in third down situations. Is faster, stronger and more atheletic. Hillis hands down the better of the two.

dude watch out for the idiots on here that  cant appreciate a v good college back like hester.. jeez

[mike7156]

Hester     Attempt       yards                           Recept              Yds
Rush        364             1780               Receive     62                  459     total 2239

Hillis
Rush       202               959                Receive     116               1183    total 2142

97 yards total difference.

This is both players carer stats, not specil teams where Hillis has far more yards.Both players had their best year as a senior. I think I would take Hillis as a FB over hester. But I would take Hester as a #3 RB on a team over Hillis.

[jpenrod1]

I would take Hillis over hester period. Hillis is bigger, just as fast if not faster, stronger, and has better hands. I still dont know why Hester was ever given the ball for LSU. there backups were much better than he was.

[ark525]

It all depends on team needs.....

If you want the best pure blocking FB, Owen Schmidt is your guy (WV).

If you want the best pure running FB/HB, Jacob Hester is your guy.

Hillis, IMO, is the best do-anything-you-need guy.  He can run if needed, but not as well as Hester.  He can block if needed, but not as good as Schmidt.  He can catch passes out of the back or off the line as well as anyone.  You could line him up at 4 different spots (RB, FB, TE, WR) and get good production depending on your needs.  Heck, you could probably put him in at LB and get production.

[upperdeck_hawg]

I would take Hillis over hester period. Hillis is bigger, just as fast if not faster, stronger, and has better hands. I still dont know why Hester was ever given the ball for LSU. there backups were much better than he was.

hillis ran a 4.56 to hester's 4.6 at the combine

[Sao Ming]

Can't go wrong with either IMO.  Two teams will get two game kids and shoud be happy with the pick.

[softballguy8]

According to this article by Rick Gosselin of the Dallas Morning News he says that Hester is a better FB prospect than Hillis?!?!?  Now maybe he is a better RB prospect than Hillis, but I believe that Hillis is by far the best FB prospect in the draft....I mean Hillis may even be a little to small to be a "true" FB and if that is the case than Hester is nothing but a third down back (which is how I feel anyways).   Atleast Harrison is getting some love here though because he has him listed as the 4th best DT in the draft.How do y'all feel about this?

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/football/nfl/draft/gosselin_rankings.html

Hillis is definitely better than Hester.

[jgphillips3]

Hester played on a better team (they were National Champions after all) but he is not a better player.  He is a fine college football player, but he is not even close to the complete player Hillis is.  If you are going to be a fullback in the pros now you better be able to block and catch the ball because the position is becoming obsolete.  Any team that thinks Hester is better than Hillis probably doesn't finish in the playoffs very often.  I think their speed is comparable and they are both punishing, but Hillis brings a LOT more skill to the table.  Don't get me wrong, if we could have a Hester on our team right now I would take him, but between the two, you have to take Hillis. 

[J. McHog]

Hester played on a better team (they were National Champions after all) but he is not a better player.  He is a fine college football player, but he is not even close to the complete player Hillis is.  If you are going to be a fullback in the pros now you better be able to block and catch the ball because the position is becoming obsolete.  Any team that thinks Hester is better than Hillis probably doesn't finish in the playoffs very often.  I think their speed is comparable and they are both punishing, but Hillis brings a LOT more skill to the table.  Don't get me wrong, if we could have a Hester on our team right now I would take him, but between the two, you have to take Hillis. 

Totally agree. Hester did one thing pretty consistently. He produced. He scored when LSU needed it, he got the 1st down when LSU needed it, and so forth. Hillis most assuredly has better hands (passing) and speed, and is built stronger. You cannot deny Hester's ability to get what was needed when it was needed.

[Newhopehog]

lput Hillis on LSU team last  year and Hester becomes a LB.....

[Dwight_K_Shrute]

I can't say.  I've never seen Hester pull a truck.

[opineonswine]

According to this article by Rick Gosselin of the Dallas Morning News he says that Hester is a better FB prospect than Hillis?!?!?  Now maybe he is a better RB prospect than Hillis, but I believe that Hillis is by far the best FB prospect in the draft....I mean Hillis may even be a little to small to be a "true" FB and if that is the case than Hester is nothing but a third down back (which is how I feel anyways).   Atleast Harrison is getting some love here though because he has him listed as the 4th best DT in the draft.How do y'all feel about this?

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/football/nfl/draft/gosselin_rankings.html

I agree.

[Tejano Jawg]

I can't say.  I've never seen Hester pull a truck.

Beautiful.

[colbs]

Hillis looked alot better than hester in the combine.

[jackflash]

I like both and don't know which one is better. As far as NFL looks like FB position is becoming a dying thing.  With many teams using four WR on passing plays. So my feeling is who has the longer career with be who"s the better blocker.

[arkjay19]

Well he's wrong.  Hillis blocks better, catches better, and is faster than Hester.  Hester might be a bit of a better runner, but I think that only has to do with Hillis's subconscious after his injury in his freshman year.

[3kgthog]

A FB in the NFL will be a blocker. Hillis is one hell of a blocker. Our season went down the tubes in 2006 after he got injured. Hillis wins this discussion.

[PearlHarbor]

Hillis is far and away the best fullback. Hester, though he may be labeled a "fullback", is a runningback. And he's really slow for an nfl back, but he was damn good in college, and he may do well as a 3rd down back in the league.

But Hillis will be an every down back.

[ckhawgu]

They both are very good players. I only wish Hillis would have run between the tackles like Hester did. That guy had no quit in him at all. Not saying Hillis could not carry the load between the tackles, just that I never saw in him the same drive Hester displayed time & time again when running the ball. Could have been the lack of carries Nutt and staff gave him over the years though...

[31to6]

To echo what others have said, Fullbacks usually are used for blocking (run and augmenting pass protection), outlet passing and short yardage running. Of those I'd say:

Blocking: Both are good blockers but Hillis has the edge. He has proven he can (and is willing to be) the lead blocker down after down for the superstar HB. Watch film of us with him and without him if you doubt.

Receiving: Hillis by a ton. Hester can catch a pass, but Hillis will *always* catch the pass. And when a pro QB checks off down to the FB, he by god wants the pass caught. Hillis is money in the bank.

Short-yardage: Hester. If I *MUST* have 1 yard, I want Hester because he proved down after down that you just can't stop him from getting one yard. But Hillis is better at just about everything else. And frankly, there are probably a any number of HB in the draft that have as much power as Hester but probably better speed.

Therefore I think that Hillis gets the nod, not just because he is better in more areas but because he is better in the areas that are most important to a pro FB.

Now who will get drafted higher? Who can tell.....

[hamsam]

get some game tape and watch amigo

just did that. Hillis broke a 65 yard run again! you thinkk LSU would have figured out how to stop that by now. Hester still hasn't done much!
Are you sure you are a Hog fan? We may be "freakin homers" but at least we ain't freakin' JERKS!

[hamsam]

lput Hillis on LSU team last  year and Hester becomes a LB.....

+1 Hillis is all around a better football player.