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Hoggy Bear

April 05, 2008, 08:42:36 pm
I think that Memphis would be a natural fit if the SEC expands again.  I personally would love to see it and thinks that it sets up a more natural rivalry with us than say an Ole Miss or LSU.

Hoggy1

April 05, 2008, 08:44:09 pm #1
they should trade with Ole Miss or Vandy, I wouldn't mind.
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ErieHog

April 05, 2008, 08:48:12 pm #2
Mempiss State belongs in the Sun Belt.     I'd sooner the SEC include a Texas school than them.
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dhornjr1

April 05, 2008, 08:49:51 pm #3
Quote from: ErieHog on April 05, 2008, 08:48:12 pm
Mempiss State belongs in the Sun Belt.     I'd sooner the SEC include a Texas school than them.

Maybe we can get Duke to leave the ACC and move to the SEC, Erie. ;)

ErieHog

April 05, 2008, 08:50:24 pm #4
Quote from: dhornjr1 on April 05, 2008, 08:49:51 pm
Maybe we can get Duke to leave the ACC and move to the SEC, Erie. ;)

Now that'd be an upgrade.  It'd give Vanderbilt a natural football rival :)
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dhornjr1

April 05, 2008, 08:51:58 pm #5
Quote from: ErieHog on April 05, 2008, 08:50:24 pm
Now that'd be an upgrade.  It'd give Vanderbilt a natural football rival :)

LOL

Hoggy Bear

April 05, 2008, 08:52:17 pm #6
Quote from: donewithdale on April 05, 2008, 08:43:47 pm
Is this a joke?  Sarcasm maybe?

Nope, their basketball program alone is worth a look at adding to the SEC

ErieHog

April 05, 2008, 08:54:43 pm #7
Quote from: donewithdale on April 05, 2008, 08:53:22 pm
One Final 4 in 20+ seasons and that makes them worth adding?  This isn't the Big East.

Or CUSA.  Or the Metro.  Or whatever bush league Mempiss State happens to be a part of at the moment.
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Hoggy1

April 05, 2008, 08:55:13 pm #8
Quote from: donewithdale on April 05, 2008, 08:53:22 pm
One Final 4 in 20+ seasons and that makes them worth adding?  This isn't the Big East.

yea well its not the Conf-USA either, Memphis basketball program could EASILY take the place of Ole Miss, Vandy, SC etc...won't ever happen, but it would work.
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Newport Hog

April 05, 2008, 08:56:32 pm #9
HECK NO=  WHY Change when the SEC is so strong in football. Arkansas will rise again, probably LSU.

deucea729

April 05, 2008, 09:00:24 pm #10
If basketball were the only sport in the SEC, this might make some sense.  Their football team would make Vandy look like the New England Patriots year in and year out, though...

WBChogfan

April 05, 2008, 09:01:24 pm #11
Quote from: Hoggy Bear on April 05, 2008, 08:42:36 pm
I think that Memphis would be a natural fit if the SEC expands again.  I personally would love to see it and thinks that it sets up a more natural rivalry with us than say an Ole Miss or LSU.

I disagree.  Even though I'd love to see the Hogs come to play here in Memphis, UofM is nowhere near the caliber they need to be in football to warrant inclusion in the SEC. 

The real Hogules

April 05, 2008, 09:02:42 pm #12
No thanks, two teams from Tennessee is quite enough thank you.

Nothing against Memphis, but if the SEC chooses to add an additional team I hope we get another Florida school.
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Hoggy Bear

April 05, 2008, 09:04:59 pm #13
Quote from: WBChogfan on April 05, 2008, 09:01:24 pm
I disagree.  Even though I'd love to see the Hogs come to play here in Memphis, UofM is nowhere near the caliber they need to be in football to warrant inclusion in the SEC. 

See but I think that if you are in the SEC, your football program will get better players automatically.   It'd be tough for Tommy West to go into a highly recruited player's home from outside the Mid South and convince him to come to Memphis and C-USA.  If they are an SEC school, I guarantee you he has a better shot to land that kid automatically.

ErieHog

April 05, 2008, 09:06:02 pm #14
Quote from: Hoggy Bear on April 05, 2008, 09:04:59 pm
See but I think that if you are in the SEC, your football program will get better players automatically.   It'd be tough for Tommy West to go into a highly recruited player's home from outside the Mid South and convince him to come to Memphis and C-USA.  If they are an SEC school, I guarantee you he has a better shot to land that kid automatically.

'Come and lose by 35 every week'  doesn't sell.   It's the same reason that Vanderbilt can't get elite players.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

D Ive Wright

April 05, 2008, 09:26:37 pm #15
Quote from: Hoggy Bear on April 05, 2008, 08:42:36 pm
I think that Memphis would be a natural fit if the SEC expands again.  I personally would love to see it and thinks that it sets up a more natural rivalry with us than say an Ole Miss or LSU.

Dude ?

ColonelNutt

April 05, 2008, 09:33:50 pm #16
Quote from: ErieHog on April 05, 2008, 09:06:02 pm
'Come and lose by 35 every week'  doesn't sell.   It's the same reason that Vanderbilt can't get elite players.

No, the reason why Vandy doesn't get elite players is their academic requirements. 

ColonelNutt

April 05, 2008, 09:35:28 pm #17
Quote from: ErieHog on April 05, 2008, 08:54:43 pm
Or CUSA.  Or the Metro.  Or whatever bush league Mempiss State happens to be a part of at the moment.

At least they can win their conference and get nationally ranked consistently.  How did being middle of the road in the SEC work out for the hogs the past 10 years? 

WBChogfan

April 05, 2008, 09:36:43 pm #18
Quote from: Hoggy Bear on April 05, 2008, 09:04:59 pm
See but I think that if you are in the SEC, your football program will get better players automatically.   It'd be tough for Tommy West to go into a highly recruited player's home from outside the Mid South and convince him to come to Memphis and C-USA.  If they are an SEC school, I guarantee you he has a better shot to land that kid automatically.

It's not just the athletes.  In terms of stadiums, fan base, etc., UofM falls way short.

msudawgs64

April 06, 2008, 07:23:53 am #19
Quote from: donewithdale on April 05, 2008, 09:00:20 pm
Lets please let this thread die before a fan of another SEC program sees it.  Talk about embarrassing.

lol, too late.. ;)
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Mr. Prozac

April 06, 2008, 05:38:28 pm #20
Memphis fans wouldn't mind that either--many think that they should be in the SEC instead of us.

Beaverfever

April 06, 2008, 05:43:16 pm #21
Quote from: Mr. Prozac on April 06, 2008, 05:38:28 pm
Memphis fans wouldn't mind that either--many think that they should be in the SEC instead of us.
I'm sure they wouldn't mind at all.

Beaverfever

April 06, 2008, 05:44:19 pm #22
I would only be down for it.  I actually thought about this the other day.

DMacIsASaint

April 06, 2008, 05:48:13 pm #23
Their basketball team would help, but theyre just so bad at football..its amazing if Memphis was even half way good at football they may have a shot at it
 

Beaverfever

April 06, 2008, 05:51:04 pm #24
Quote from: DMacIsASaint on April 06, 2008, 05:48:13 pm
Their basketball team would help, but theyre just so bad at football..its amazing if Memphis was even half way good at football they may have a shot at it
They would struggle for a while but they would start getting some decent recruits instantly. 

neahog

April 06, 2008, 09:51:06 pm #25
Quote from: Hoggy Bear on April 05, 2008, 08:42:36 pm
I think that Memphis would be a natural fit if the SEC expands again.  I personally would love to see it and thinks that it sets up a more natural rivalry with us than say an Ole Miss or LSU.

If the SEC were to expand again it would want to add another high quality football team, not basketball. Memphis State sucks at football...aTm, Louisville, Clemson, Va Tech, Miami, Florida State, Ga Tech, or Ok St. would fit better...plus they'd have to add 2 teams to keep the divisions equal. Basketball's important, but it is secondary.
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newera

April 06, 2008, 10:15:09 pm #26 Last Edit: April 06, 2008, 10:17:13 pm by ErieHog
Quote from: ErieHog on April 05, 2008, 08:48:12 pm
Mempiss State belongs in the Sun Belt.     I'd sooner the SEC include a Texas school than them.

i just wanna say that they haven't been MEMPHIS STATE for quite a few years now...so can someone just broadcast that? because it's starting to annoy me.
also yes, they would be awesome for the SEC. it would give them more credibility, and a stable (or at least they have been since calipari, who i don't believe is leaving any time soon) SEC west Basketball power. and we wouldn't be losing anything in football if we kicked either Mississippi school or Vandy out.



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ErieHog

April 06, 2008, 10:17:45 pm #27
Quote from: newera on April 06, 2008, 10:15:09 pm
i just wanna say that they haven't been MEMPHIS STATE for quite a few years now...so can someone just broadcast that? because it's starting to annoy me.
also yes, they would be awesome for the SEC. it would give them more credibility, and a stable (or at least they have been since calipari, who i don't believe is leaving any time soon) SEC west Basketball power. and we wouldn't be losing anything in football if we kicked either Mississippi school or Vandy out.






Whoops, hit the modify button, rather than the respond.

Short, sweet version:

They'll always be Memphis State.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

jgphillips3

April 06, 2008, 10:56:01 pm #28
Quote from: ColonelNutt on April 05, 2008, 09:35:28 pm
At least they can win their conference and get nationally ranked consistently.  How did being middle of the road in the SEC work out for the hogs the past 10 years? 

Have you seen the money SEC teams split.  We used to dominate in the SWC in basketball and I wouldn't trade being in the SEC for dominating a weak league ever again.  Memphis is a good traditional basketball team.  I don't like them, but I am not going to disrespect their program.  The unusual thing about this incarnation is the lack of players from Memphis on the team.  Much as I dislike the thought, I think they are about to win their first National title when Kansas lets down after crushing Roy Williams.

neahog

April 06, 2008, 11:18:35 pm #29
Quote from: jgphillips3 on April 06, 2008, 10:56:01 pm
Have you seen the money SEC teams split.  We used to dominate in the SWC in basketball and I wouldn't trade being in the SEC for dominating a weak league ever again.  Memphis is a good traditional basketball team.  I don't like them, but I am not going to disrespect their program.  The unusual thing about this incarnation is the lack of players from Memphis on the team.  Much as I dislike the thought, I think they are about to win their first National title when Kansas lets down after crushing Roy Williams.

Yeah, they're good at basketball, that's the point...they suck balls at football. I am a basketball fan, but come on...compared to football, basketball is meaningless and boring.
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neahog

April 06, 2008, 11:19:20 pm #30
Quote from: newera on April 06, 2008, 10:15:09 pm
i just wanna say that they haven't been MEMPHIS STATE for quite a few years now...so can someone just broadcast that? because it's starting to annoy me.
also yes, they would be awesome for the SEC. it would give them more credibility, and a stable (or at least they have been since calipari, who i don't believe is leaving any time soon) SEC west Basketball power. and we wouldn't be losing anything in football if we kicked either Mississippi school or Vandy out.





People call them Memphis State on purpose...it's to mock U of Memphis.
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Hoggy Bear

April 07, 2008, 12:42:28 am #31
Quote from: neahog on April 06, 2008, 11:18:35 pm
Yeah, they're good at basketball, that's the point...they suck balls at football. I am a basketball fan, but come on...compared to football, basketball is meaningless and boring.

Yeah, cause the SEC doesn't have teams that suck in football....

SpareRib

April 07, 2008, 01:01:08 am #32
Quote from: Hoggy Bear on April 05, 2008, 08:42:36 pm
I think that Memphis would be a natural fit if the SEC expands again.  I personally would love to see it and thinks that it sets up a more natural rivalry with us than say an Ole Miss or LSU.

I have nothing against them, but Tiger High ain't SEC material.
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Smokehouse

April 07, 2008, 01:27:17 am #33
I'm against it if, for nothing else, we have enough damn tigers in the SEC as it is. I'm sure there's another bulldog school that would like to get in, we could add them at the same time.
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Milton

April 07, 2008, 07:17:31 am #34
I wouldn't mind seeing it. One thing is for sure, Memphis needs a new conference
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Darren DeLoach

April 07, 2008, 10:56:56 am #35
what is up with all these memphis bandwagon jumpers?

MEMPHIS!!

old memphis fans believe they are an elite program and have always deserved to be in the sec.

they thought arkansas being added to the sec was a joke.

tiger high is and will always be second rate.

they are in the perfect conference.

i hope kansas spanks them.
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Darren DeLoach

April 07, 2008, 10:58:32 am #36
Quote from: ErieHog on April 06, 2008, 10:17:45 pm



They'll always be Memphis State.

no, they will always be tiger high!
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SpareRib

April 07, 2008, 11:40:41 am #37
Quote from: semohawg on April 07, 2008, 10:56:56 am
what is up with all these memphis bandwagon jumpers?

MEMPHIS!! ...

old memphis fans believe they are an elite program and have always deserved to be in the sec ...

This is historically accurate.  I remember the 1963 football game when Ole Miss was rated #1 in the nation preseason.   The Tigers played them to a 0-0 tie that day.  That night when the Ole Miss frat parties were kicking off in the Peabody Hotel, you could have heard a pin drop.  Ole Miss had a 75% winning average for 20 years under Johnny Vaught, but every year the Tigers thought they could whip 'em.

Then there were the early 70's with Larry Finch, Ronnie Robinson and Memphis basketball.  Good years.

Yep, old Memphis fans did believe they belonged in the SEC.  It was only illusion.  The Tigers aren't SEC material and won't be in the foreseeable future. 

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spudhog

April 07, 2008, 11:56:10 am #38
It would make sense in basketball and baseball. Not football. Football, they are light years behind. Not sure on their other sports.

Vandy has been in the league a while, not polite just to kick them out. Naturally, if the sec wanted to add/subtract they would probably start with us or usc since we were the last to join. Not sure that would go over well.

I am going to say a no go on memphis in the sec.

neahog

April 07, 2008, 12:39:09 pm #39
Quote from: Hoggy Bear on April 07, 2008, 12:42:28 am
Yeah, cause the SEC doesn't have teams that suck in football....

My point exactly...BUT...the SEC does have some teams that suck at football, see Vandy, UK (this year was an exception), and often times the Mississippi schools. The point is, the SEC is the best football conference in America, basketball is just a way to pass the time in the off season. Still though, we already have 4 crappy football teams and we don't need any more.
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hogball33

April 07, 2008, 01:14:33 pm #40
How many teams do you think the SEC can have? Why don't we become the Big 20.

noprayerfornutt

April 07, 2008, 03:32:49 pm #41
Quote from: semohawg on April 07, 2008, 10:58:32 am
no, they will always be tiger high!

Beat me to it.

Reading this thread makes me actually want to cheer for Kansas tonight.

slowride

April 07, 2008, 04:19:22 pm #42
But, if they were in the SEC, people would say they were tougher than their record in football would indicate.  This is typically said about the 3 or 4 teams in the sec with the poorest records.  People would still say "man you never get a week off in the SEC."  Or "Memphis is in the SEC so don't expect the game to be easy." 

HogFaninMemphis

April 07, 2008, 04:21:10 pm #43
Quote from: ErieHog on April 05, 2008, 08:50:24 pm
Now that'd be an upgrade.  It'd give Vanderbilt a natural football rival :)
lol
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HogFaninMemphis

April 07, 2008, 04:23:29 pm #44
Quote from: GiveEmHellPel on April 05, 2008, 08:55:13 pm
yea well its not the Conf-USA either, Memphis basketball program could EASILY take the place of Ole Miss, Vandy, SC etc...won't ever happen, but it would work.
I'd like to see Memphis in the SEC.  The problems are 1. No one wants to leave the SEC.  2.  Memphis is only ever good at one sport.  They are terrible in women's hoops, usually bad in football, and baseball is usually pretty bad, too.  They have a good band though.  lol
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Hogtimes

April 07, 2008, 04:54:28 pm #45
Memphis does not even have a football stadium and I won't go into their academics.    Heck Louisville would be better choice than Memphis,  but admitting Louisville would be a joke.

Wildhog

April 07, 2008, 05:05:00 pm #46
No more teams!
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hawgsav1

April 07, 2008, 07:57:35 pm #47
Quote from: ColonelNutt on April 05, 2008, 09:33:50 pm
No, the reason why Vandy doesn't get elite players is their academic requirements. 

That's a load of bullhonky.  Stanford has higher academic requirements than Vandy and they have fielded much more competitive teams than Vanderbilt in both football AND basketball.
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ballhog™

April 07, 2008, 09:29:00 pm #48
No community colleges allowed in the SEC...



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ErieHog

April 07, 2008, 09:30:01 pm #49
Quote from: ballhog on April 07, 2008, 09:29:00 pm
No community colleges allowed in the SEC...





When did Memphis State Tiger High raise their admission standards?  I thought it was a clown college.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."
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