The Sec has no business with 6 teams in the NCAA

[Forrest city joe-1]

It's a joke that the sec has as many bids as the Pac 10 the sec was terrible this year.they will not get a team past the 2nd round in my opinion. i think even TN will lose their second game. everyone else goes out in the first round.Mike slive must have a lot of pull.

[Table Rocker]

do you ever not bitch?

[hogfan064]

Who would you leave out?  Kentucky is the only one you could make an arguement against.

[johnfanman]

treee teams in the sweet sixteen...tennessee, vanderbilt, miss st. and one in the elite eight...tenn. I don't see much more than that, but we will be represented well in the after the first weekend

[hogfan064]

treee teams in the sweet sixteen...tennessee, vanderbilt, miss st. and one in the elite eight...tenn. I don't see much more than that, but we will be represented well in the after the first weekend

You think MSU beats Memphis?

[hawgsav1]

Kentucky does NOT deserve a bid...

[jgphillips3]

Look, the SEC was not terrible, we just didn't have as many really good teams as we have in the past.  We are WAY middle of the pack heavy.  I will promise you that any team in the West, except LSU, could get hot and beat almost any team in the field that isn't a top 5 team.  However, it is the "must get hot" part that is the problem.  We have a bunch of okay teams and only one marquee team in Tennessee this year.  Considering the league has had as many as nine in the past, six is probably fair, but it would have only been five if Georgia hadn't pulled out the tourney title.

[Forrest city joe-1]

The only team that will win a game in the NCAA is Tennessee. everyone else goes home in the first round. sorry, but that's how i see it. the Sec is not good at all this year folks.

[RZRBack_FAN]

I agree. Georgia and Kentucky sure dont deserve it. I kinda think the auto bid sucks. No way should a team that wins 4 confernce games all year deserve a spot in the tourney i dont care if they win 6 games in 3 days. Why not just have a tourney to see who makes the tourney if its gonna be that way. Why even play a regular season?

[WHITEPW]

Kentucky should not be in at all

[hogfan064]

I agree. Georgia and Kentucky sure dont deserve it. I kinda think the auto bid sucks. No way should a team that wins 4 confernce games all year deserve a spot in the tourney i dont care if they win 6 games in 3 days. Why not just have a tourney to see who makes the tourney if its gonna be that way. Why even play a regular season?

The Auto bid does suck when you have a team like Ole Miss that won 21 games this year left out, but a team with a losing record like Coppin State that is in. 

But that's how the tourney is setup and all these teams know what they have to do.

[hview]

I'm glad they got 6 teams in. Who knows, maybe the Hogs can put together another two game winning streak. Man, wouldn't that be a shocker.

[Forrest city joe-1]

I'm glad they got 6 teams in. Who knows, maybe the Hogs can put together another two game winning streak. Man, wouldn't that be a shocker.

NO CHANCE. im already looking foward to our new players next year.

[Spiral_cut]

The only team that will win a game in the NCAA is Tennessee. everyone else goes home in the first round. sorry, but that's how i see it. the Sec is not good at all this year folks.

Good god man, do you ever see the glass half full?

[Natedog39]

NO CHANCE. im already looking foward to our new players next year.

Maybe you shouldn't even watch the game then.  Fans like you make me sick.  Maybe they won't win, maybe they will, but how can you not even give them a chance.  I as a Razorback fan will always give us a chance to win.  Isn't that what fans are supposed to do.  Fans are supposed to believe in their team when noone else does. 

[Forrest city joe-1]

Sometimes the truth hurts.i have no faith in this team. today was not a big suprise to me at all. i have seen this for 4 years. getting mad at me wont change the facts.

[hawgsav1]

This doesn't make sense.  If anyone saw the interview with the committee chairman, they said they emphasized non-conference play and scheduling over conference play and didn't take conference play into account.  This was their justification for leaving Arizona State out instead of Arizona.  If that's the case, then why did they put Kentucky in ahead of Ole Miss?  Ole Miss had no losses to <200 RPI teams while Kentucky had a losing record going into conference play.  Ole Miss was ranked for a while this season and could probably take out Kentucky.  Bad bracket selection this year.

[Natedog39]

I have been sick of alot of stuff I have seen over the last 4 years, but that doesn't mean that I won't be cheering them on and wanting them to win.  By the way, how is your opinion the truth.  The TRUTH is that there is no truth in opinions. 

BTW, I'm not mad at you.

[Hootiethehog]

Joe, what must life be like for you. I feel sorry for you, your family and everyone that has ever met you. Someone as negative as you are on a daily basis just drags down all those around you.
I understand that being the "angry guy" is your schtik, but making a statement like you did in the original post just makes you look like someone who has never even heard of the game of basketball.
Do I think our draw was good. Hell no, I think we got one of the worst possible draws for us. But looking around at the rest of the tournament and saying that the SEC won't get at least one team to the Sweet 16 is asinine.
When you would call in to Drive Time, I always thought you were part of their crew that they put on to either cause controversy with your outrageous claims or there just for comic relief because like I said before, no one can be as negative as you are and be serious about it.

[Forrest city joe-1]

Joe, what must life be like for you. I feel sorry for you, your family and everyone that has ever met you. Someone as negative as you are on a daily basis just drags down all those around you.
I understand that being the "angry guy" is your schtik, but making a statement like you did in the original post just makes you look like someone who has never even heard of the game of basketball.
Do I think our draw was good. Hell no, I think we got one of the worst possible draws for us. But looking around at the rest of the tournament and saying that the SEC won't get at least one team to the Sweet 16 is asinine.
When you would call in to Drive Time, I always thought you were part of their crew that they put on to either cause controversy with your outrageous claims or there just for comic relief because like I said before, no one can be as negative as you are and be serious about it.

I may be the worse guy in the world.but the Sec stinks this year. and it has no business with 6 team in the NCAA. i will be proven right about this. getting mad because i dont think like you do wont work with me. i have no faith in these players, or this team. if that makes me a bad guy, so be it. i hope they win every game. but in my opinion it's one and out again this year.

[BigoBoys]

It is about economics!  SEC has money and they will have fans that travel. 

[Forrest city joe-1]

It is about economics!  SEC has money and they will have fans that travel. 

Yep, that must be what it is. that, or Mike slive has more power than we think. it's unreal the sec got 6 teams in.UNREAL!

[Hootiethehog]

Yep, that must be what it is. that, or Mike slive has more power than we think. it's unreal the sec got 6 teams in.UNREAL!

I agree, Kentucky should not be in this tournament

[Tusks]

Joe I'm usually on your side but if the SEC has more than one team win a game then how about a day of positive post from you.

You said EVERYONE but TN will be one and done, I say you're wrong and if you are show up and be nice for a change.

[babywhiz]

It's a joke that the sec has as many bids as the Pac 10 the sec was terrible this year.they will not get a team past the 2nd round in my opinion. i think even TN will lose their second game. everyone else goes out in the first round.Mike slive must have a lot of pull.

_{(Nothing personal to you, I just thought it would be a funny thread to post this pic on)}

[Forrest city joe-1]

Joe I'm usually on your side but if the SEC has more than one team win a game then how about a day of positive post from you.

You said EVERYONE but TN will be one and done, I say you're wrong and if you are show up and be nice for a change.

OK here goes. i think Pel will be a great coach for us in time.i think he will get better players into this program. players who are winners. and know how to win big games. time will tell.

[GrizzledHogFan]

It's a joke that the sec has as many bids as the Pac 10 the sec was terrible this year.they will not get a team past the 2nd round in my opinion. i think even TN will lose their second game. everyone else goes out in the first round.Mike slive must have a lot of pull.

LOL

[hogsanity]

The SEC only had 5 teams in.  IT is obvious Ky was in with their 12 regular season SEC wins, and they should have been.  Is it the SEC's fault that GA won 4 games in the SECT?  DO you penalize Ky because GA got hot?  If the SEC refs would have called the charge on GA with 1 second left yesterday, this might all be moot.

The problem is wih the autobids.  It cheapens the regular season.  Why not just give the autobids to the league champ, then get you at large teams from the rest.  The GA situation does not happen often, but it happens often enough that it stinks.

[hview]

Forrest City if they beat IU are you going to give them credit for having a good game. I admit just about the time I think they've turned the corner we have one of these games. Lets cheer them on and then look forward to an injection on new players into the program.   

I agree the autobid created this situation with Georgia winning. Personally I like it.

[hogsanity]

Forrest City if they beat IU are you going to give them credit for having a good game. I admit just about the time I think they've turned the corner we have one of these games. Lets cheer them on and then look forward to an injection on new players into the program.  

No, he will say it is because IU lost their coach) cheater ) during the season.

[40MINSOFHELL]

I may be the worse guy in the world.but the Sec stinks this year. and it has no business with 6 team in the NCAA. i will be proven right about this. getting mad because i dont think like you do wont work with me. i have no faith in these players, or this team. if that makes me a bad guy, so be it. i hope they win every game. but in my opinion it's one and out again this year.

maybe you should join Thug U and their fans

[Marc Maggard]

kinda odd to see so many complain about a team that beat them making the tournament....not smack talk....just obvious viewpoint.

The last 10 or so games are BIG for the NCAA selection committee and UK played very well the second half.

mm

[stronguard]

This doesn't make sense.  If anyone saw the interview with the committee chairman, they said they emphasized non-conference play and scheduling over conference play and didn't take conference play into account.  This was their justification for leaving Arizona State out instead of Arizona.  If that's the case, then why did they put Kentucky in ahead of Ole Miss?  Ole Miss had no losses to <200 RPI teams while Kentucky had a losing record going into conference play.  Ole Miss was ranked for a while this season and could probably take out Kentucky.  Bad bracket selection this year.

I think Ken-sucky made the tourney the moment San Diego won their conf tourney.  That UGLY loss to SD earlier wasn't quite so ugly after that. 

OH, and the fact that the NCAA loves them some Ken-sucky.

[Forrest city joe-1]

Forrest City if they beat IU are you going to give them credit for having a good game. I admit just about the time I think they've turned the corner we have one of these games. Lets cheer them on and then look forward to an injection on new players into the program.   

I agree the autobid created this situation with Georgia winning. Personally I like it.

Hope we win every game. i always pull for the hawgs to win. but i have no faith in these players. im glad the season is almost over. looking foward to our new players coming in next year.

[Marc Maggard]

I think Ken-sucky made the tourney the moment San Diego won their conf tourney.  That UGLY loss to SD earlier wasn't quite so ugly after that. 

OH, and the fact that the NCAA loves them some Ken-sucky.

Ken-sucky beat Ar-can-sucks......(thank you, appearing twice nightly)

mm

[stronguard]

Ken-sucky beat Ar-can-sucks......(thank you, appearing twice nightly)

mm

I'm glad big blue has 1 victory they can be proud of. 

Besides, everyone knows we're not Ar-can-sux, we're Arkanschitz Bi-Polar-backs....get it straight will ya.

[Natedog39]

I agree, Kentucky should not be in this tournament

Agreed!!!

[hawgsav1]

I think Ken-sucky made the tourney the moment San Diego won their conf tourney.  That UGLY loss to SD earlier wasn't quite so ugly after that. 

OH, and the fact that the NCAA loves them some Ken-sucky.

Haha true, but what about losing to Gardner Webb?  I'd never heard of them before that one...

[hawgsav1]

The SEC only had 5 teams in.  IT is obvious Ky was in with their 12 regular season SEC wins, and they should have been.  Is it the SEC's fault that GA won 4 games in the SECT?  DO you penalize Ky because GA got hot?  If the SEC refs would have called the charge on GA with 1 second left yesterday, this might all be moot.

The problem is wih the autobids.  It cheapens the regular season.  Why not just give the autobids to the league champ, then get you at large teams from the rest.  The GA situation does not happen often, but it happens often enough that it stinks.

I don't have a problem with auto-bids, because it gives teams a concrete way of ensuring they get into the tournament, and it gives teams who normally don't have much to play for something to look forward too.  Otherwise the hullaballoo of who gets in and who doesn't would be unbearable.  However, Georgia getting the SEC tourney win should have knocked out Kentucky from contention.  They got it together in conference, which I commend them for.  But George Mason's president (his own words from the committee leader) said that they didn't take conference strength or records into account nearly as much as they heavily emphasized non-conference play.  By that standard, I don't think Kentucky should have gotten in.  By that reasoning Ole Miss should have gotten in.  They have a better RPI than Kentucky by nearly 20 spots and a much better non-conference record with much fewer bad losses than Kentucky.  Both teams lost in their opening tournament games, so that point is moot in my opinion.  Only thing Kentucky really has going for it is the SOS, which is 19 compared to Ole Miss at 65.

[Marc Maggard]

I don't have a problem with auto-bids, because it gives teams a concrete way of ensuring they get into the tournament, and it gives teams who normally don't have much to play for something to look forward too.  Otherwise the hullaballoo of who gets in and who doesn't would be unbearable.  However, Georgia getting the SEC tourney win should have knocked out Kentucky from contention.  They got it together in conference, which I commend them for.  But George Mason's president (his own words from the committee leader) said that they didn't take conference strength or records into account nearly as much as they heavily emphasized non-conference play.  By that standard, I don't think Kentucky should have gotten in.  By that reasoning Ole Miss should have gotten in.  They have a better RPI than Kentucky by nearly 20 spots and a much better non-conference record with much fewer bad losses than Kentucky.  Both teams lost in their opening tournament games, so that point is moot in my opinion.  Only thing Kentucky really has going for it is the SOS, which is 19 compared to Ole Miss at 65.

Seriously, you can't take ONE thing and single it out as the reason someone did or didn't get in.  It's the entire package.

UK's early problems were due to major injuries and a new coach.  Injuries have ALWAYS been accounted for, assuming the team plays well once those injuries are healed....which UK did.  IT's also the reason Arizona is in the tournament....they are 16-6 with Nic and Bayless in the lineup. 

I know its fun to talk Gardner Webb, but that was the second game of the season with major injuries....still should have won, but those factors are considered.....

Vandy at Vandy was a bad loss, but teams lose games from time to time.....it's the body of work.  And UK beat Vandy, Ga, Ark, and Tenn....all of which are in the tournament.

mm

[hogsanity]

I don't have a problem with auto-bids, because it gives teams a concrete way of ensuring they get into the tournament, and it gives teams who normally don't have much to play for something to look forward too.  Otherwise the hullaballoo of who gets in and who doesn't would be unbearable.  However, Georgia getting the SEC tourney win should have knocked out Kentucky from contention.  They got it together in conference, which I commend them for.  But George Mason's president (his own words from the committee leader) said that they didn't take conference strength or records into account nearly as much as they heavily emphasized non-conference play.  By that standard, I don't think Kentucky should have gotten in.  By that reasoning Ole Miss should have gotten in.  They have a better RPI than Kentucky by nearly 20 spots and a much better non-conference record with much fewer bad losses than Kentucky.  Both teams lost in their opening tournament games, so that point is moot in my opinion.  Only thing Kentucky really has going for it is the SOS, which is 19 compared to Ole Miss at 65.

First, I dont believe that they dont take conference record in to account, because they also say the emphasize the final 12 games or so, so, how can they not look at conference, because thats what your final 12 games are.

Second, why should an upset winner in the SEC automatically have knocked another SEC team out?  I can think of 3 teams that shoud not be in anyway that should have been ousted by GA, Arizona, St Joes, Villanova.

Fiamlly, why should teams that cant do it over a 30 game schedule, be given a 2nd chance?

[Karma]

NO CHANCE. im already looking foward to our new players next year.

I'm sure you will enjoy the chance to turn against a whole new set of Hogs.  You said you didn't want this team to make the NCAAT, now we are in it and you are still griping. 

[cmakrzrbak]

Standard thread from the "other" FCJ

B!tch B!tch B!tch B!tch B!tch - moan, whine, we suck balls - B!tch B!tch B!tch

I hope we lose - whine - belch - B!tch - we shouldn't even show up - holler B!tch B!tch B!tch

what a damn loser

[BleedsBlue]

I think Ken-sucky made the tourney the moment San Diego won their conf tourney.  That UGLY loss to SD earlier wasn't quite so ugly after that. 

OH, and the fact that the NCAA loves them some Ken-sucky.

The jealousy here is so obvious.  Any team with a 12-4 SEC record has never been left out of the tournament.  What was Arkansas' SEC record?  Ole Miss?  Better than UK's?  Don't think so.

What happened to the days when fans cheered for all of the SEC teams and the money it brings to the conference?  I know I will be wishing all the SEC teams well during the tournament including Arkansas.

[Hogginitall]

It's a joke that the sec has as many bids as the Pac 10 the sec was terrible this year.they will not get a team past the 2nd round in my opinion. i think even TN will lose their second game. everyone else goes out in the first round.Mike slive must have a lot of pull.

Once again, you're full of $*%$.  And once again, you'll be proven incorrect, come Sweet 16 time.  I'm tired of reading your negative drivel!  You might be the first person on this board that I put on ignore....

[Hogginitall]

I may be the worse guy in the world.but the Sec stinks this year. and it has no business with 6 team in the NCAA. i will be proven right about this. getting mad because i dont think like you do wont work with me. i have no faith in these players, or this team. if that makes me a bad guy, so be it. i hope they win every game. but in my opinion it's one and out again this year.

Kind of seems like you don't have much faith in ANYTHING.  Congrats on that!

[ekyle1]

Kentucky does NOT deserve a bid...

Do you really think that the NCAA powers that be would kick BIG BLUE to the curb!!!

[cosmodrum]

Kentucky does NOT deserve a bid...

Yes they do.

[Jim Harris]

This doesn't make sense.  If anyone saw the interview with the committee chairman, they said they emphasized non-conference play and scheduling over conference play and didn't take conference play into account.  This was their justification for leaving Arizona State out instead of Arizona.  If that's the case, then why did they put Kentucky in ahead of Ole Miss?  Ole Miss had no losses to <200 RPI teams while Kentucky had a losing record going into conference play.  Ole Miss was ranked for a while this season and could probably take out Kentucky.  Bad bracket selection this year.

Maybe it had a little something to do with Kentucky going 12-4 and Ole Miss going 7-9 in the league. Kentucky beat Ole Miss head to head.
Ole Miss could have made it by winning four games in a row like Georgia. Instead the Rebs lost to Georgia.

[stronguard]

The jealousy here is so obvious.  Any team with a 12-4 SEC record has never been left out of the tournament.  What was Arkansas' SEC record?  Ole Miss?  Better than UK's?  Don't think so.

What happened to the days when fans cheered for all of the SEC teams and the money it brings to the conference?  I know I will be wishing all the SEC teams well during the tournament including Arkansas.
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The jealousy here is so obvious.  Any team with a 12-4 SEC record has never been left out of the tournament.  What was Arkansas' SEC record?  Ole Miss?  Better than UK's?  Don't think so.

What happened to the days when fans cheered for all of the SEC teams and the money it brings to the conference?  I know I will be wishing all the SEC teams well during the tournament including Arkansas.

I've got a lot of friends and family in Ken-Sucky.  But lets face it, this years team doesn't deserve to go dancing.  I think most of the honest UK fans would agree with that.  12 - 4 SEC is nice, but everyone in the SEC knows that UK gets 6 auto wins in the SEC every year just on the basis of home cooking officials.   I will be cheering for them to win though, just like I do every game that they aren't playing the Arkanschitz Bi-Polarbacks.