Didnt we do alrght the last tme we hired a BB coach from Creighton?

[hogsanity]

I think so, maybe I am wrong.  Didnt Eddie come from there?

[DeltaBoy]

Your correct my friend!

[hogsanity]

thought so

[razorhead69]

YEP!!

[jamie72921]

That is right we did "alright."

We had an arena that didn't even have seating along the baselines and the goals hung from the rafters.

Sorry folks, a little has changed since then and "alright" is no longer accepteble.

[Squealsonwheels]

I think so, maybe I am wrong.  Didnt Eddie come from there?

Yes but we played on a dirt floor back then...We dont need someone to build our program...We needed someone to take us to another level and have name appeal...Sorry Im 100% against this hire but as I have stated earlier this isnt Dana'a fault.

[Winner]

I'm sure that has lots of bearing on whether Altman is a good hire.

[hogsanity]

I'm sure that has lots of bearing on whether Altman is a good hire.

It really has none except to show that no one really knows what will happen.

[Ulysses_S_Grunt]

As someone said earlier, you can't make comparisons like that. Thats like saying Huckabee would be a good president too, because he's from Arkansas like Clinton.

[PiggoBitttys]

That is right we did "alright."

We had an arena that didn't even have seating along the baselines and the goals hung from the rafters.

Sorry folks, a little has changed since then and "alright" is no longer accepteble.

Alright was defined as how Eddie did when he coached here. You're saying going to the Final Four is not acceptable here? Having all-americans like the Triplets is not acceptable?

WHO THE HECK CARES WHAT HIS NAME IS, as long as he WINS!!

[jamie72921]

I'm sure that has lots of bearing on whether Altman is a good hire.

It really has none except to show that no one really knows what will happen.

The old universal negative approach.

[jamie72921]

That is right we did "alright."

We had an arena that didn't even have seating along the baselines and the goals hung from the rafters.

Sorry folks, a little has changed since then and "alright" is no longer accepteble.

Alright was defined as how Eddie did when he coached here. You're saying going to the Final Four is not acceptable here? Having all-americans like the Triplets is not acceptable?

WHO THE HECK CARES WHAT HIS NAME IS, as long as he WINS!!

We went to A final four. ONE!!!!!!!!!

That's it!!!!!!!!

We only got close to that one more time.

NO, THAT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE now that we are 3 more final fours, a national championship, and a 19000 seat arena down the road.

[moses_007]

Yes Frank made perhaps the best coaching hire of his career when he hired Eddie Sutton away from Creighton.  It was Sutton who put the Razorbacks on the national basketball map after years of being a loser in old Barnhill Arena.  However, remember that Sutton and his Arkansas teams only played in the old SWC...they never played a game in the SEC.  Nolan was our coach when we jumped to the SEC.

I have often wondered if Eddie could have been half as successful in the SEC as he was in the SWC.  Dana Altman may turn out to be a good hire, but we might have just gone back to the well (Creighton) one time too many.

We will have to just sit tight and see.  :razorback:

[PiggoBitttys]

That is right we did "alright."

We had an arena that didn't even have seating along the baselines and the goals hung from the rafters.

Sorry folks, a little has changed since then and "alright" is no longer accepteble.

Alright was defined as how Eddie did when he coached here. You're saying going to the Final Four is not acceptable here? Having all-americans like the Triplets is not acceptable?

WHO THE HECK CARES WHAT HIS NAME IS, as long as he WINS!!

We went to A final four. ONE!!!!!!!!!

That's it!!!!!!!!

We only got close to that one more time.

NO, THAT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE now that we are 3 more final fours, a national championship, and a 19000 seat arena down the road.

You go out and try to hire a coach and tell him he will have to make it to multiple final fours or he will be fired. See what kind of response you get.

[biggiepiggie]

Just because he's from Creighton doesn't mean he's Eddie.

[CalHog]

I b

That is right we did "alright."

We had an arena that didn't even have seating along the baselines and the goals hung from the rafters.

Sorry folks, a little has changed since then and "alright" is no longer accepteble.

I believe Sutton was a little more than alright.  Where were you when he came to UA?

[jamie72921]

Yes Frank made perhaps the best coaching hire of his career when he hired Eddie Sutton away from Creighton.  It was Sutton who put the Razorbacks on the national basketball map after years of being a loser in old Barnhill Arena.  However, remember that Sutton and his Arkansas teams only played in the old SWC...they never played a game in the SEC.  Nolan was our coach when we jumped to the SEC.

I have often wondered if Eddie could have been half as successful in the SEC as he was in the SWC.  Dana Altman may turn out to be a good hire, but we might have just gone back to the well (Creighton) one time too many.

We will have to just sit tight and see.  :razorback:

I disagree with the premise that Sutton made us "nationally respected".

He did build the enthusiasm in our own fan base and made a splash with the trippletts but other than that we were not a feared program. We were probably on par with say a Villanova of today.

National prominence came after Nolan followed the Outstanding foundation Sutton laid and took it to a new level.

[bigbrutha]

Just because he's from Creighton doesn't mean he's Eddie.

True.  He could end up being better.  Only time will tell.

[jamie72921]

I b

That is right we did "alright."

We had an arena that didn't even have seating along the baselines and the goals hung from the rafters.

Sorry folks, a little has changed since then and "alright" is no longer accepteble.

I believe Sutton was a little more than alright.  Where were you when he came to UA?

In Barnhill arena.

Where were you?

[BartIV]

This topic makes no sense what-so-ever. Just because we hired a coach from Creighton 25-30 years ago, doesn't mean we are going to have success with this coach.

[jamie72921]

That is right we did "alright."

We had an arena that didn't even have seating along the baselines and the goals hung from the rafters.

Sorry folks, a little has changed since then and "alright" is no longer accepteble.

Alright was defined as how Eddie did when he coached here. You're saying going to the Final Four is not acceptable here? Having all-americans like the Triplets is not acceptable?

WHO THE HECK CARES WHAT HIS NAME IS, as long as he WINS!!

We went to A final four. ONE!!!!!!!!!

That's it!!!!!!!!

We only got close to that one more time.

NO, THAT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE now that we are 3 more final fours, a national championship, and a 19000 seat arena down the road.

You go out and try to hire a coach and tell him he will have to make it to multiple final fours or he will be fired. See what kind of response you get.

If you don't have high expectations see what you get. You won't be happy.

[CalHog]

That is right we did "alright."

We had an arena that didn't even have seating along the baselines and the goals hung from the rafters.

Sorry folks, a little has changed since then and "alright" is no longer accepteble.

Alright was defined as how Eddie did when he coached here. You're saying going to the Final Four is not acceptable here? Having all-americans like the Triplets is not acceptable?

WHO THE HECK CARES WHAT HIS NAME IS, as long as he WINS!!

We went to A final four. ONE!!!!!!!!!

That's it!!!!!!!!

We only got close to that one more time.

NO, THAT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE now that we are 3 more final fours, a national championship, and a 19000 seat arena down the road.

You sound to me like an up and comer message board poster.  I'm not sure you will ever be a winner.

[BartIV]

Just because he's from Creighton doesn't mean he's Eddie.

True.  He could end up being better.  Only time will tell.

He could end up being worse. Only time will tell.

[CalHog]

I b

That is right we did "alright."

We had an arena that didn't even have seating along the baselines and the goals hung from the rafters.

Sorry folks, a little has changed since then and "alright" is no longer accepteble.

I believe Sutton was a little more than alright.  Where were you when he came to UA?

In Barnhill arena.

Where were you?

I was there sitting behind the Arkansas bench.

[bigbrutha]

Just because he's from Creighton doesn't mean he's Eddie.

True.  He could end up being better.  Only time will tell.

He could end up being worse. Only time will tell.

Exactly, i only know one thing.  Just like me, you sure as hel1 don't know.

[jesterzzn]

Didn't the last coach we hired from creepton crawl on his hands and knees to Kentucky?  I guess this one will too...

[jamie72921]

I b

That is right we did "alright."

We had an arena that didn't even have seating along the baselines and the goals hung from the rafters.

Sorry folks, a little has changed since then and "alright" is no longer accepteble.

I believe Sutton was a little more than alright.  Where were you when he came to UA?

In Barnhill arena.

Where were you?

I was there sitting behind the Arkansas bench.

Who was playing?

[hogsanity]

That is right we did "alright."

We had an arena that didn't even have seating along the baselines and the goals hung from the rafters.

Sorry folks, a little has changed since then and "alright" is no longer accepteble.

Alright was defined as how Eddie did when he coached here. You're saying going to the Final Four is not acceptable here? Having all-americans like the Triplets is not acceptable?

WHO THE HECK CARES WHAT HIS NAME IS, as long as he WINS!!

We went to A final four. ONE!!!!!!!!!

That's it!!!!!!!!

We only got close to that one more time.

NO, THAT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE now that we are 3 more final fours, a national championship, and a 19000 seat arena down the road.

How many Final 4's has Gillespie been to?  Or Self? 

[hawgslop74]

My understanding is that everybody B##ched when we hired Nolan.
Look where he got us.
Give Dana a chance and then if he sucks start your B##chin then.
It is not his fault he got hired.
Go Hogs and Go Dana. :razorback:

[jesterzzn]

My understanding is that everybody B##ched when we hired Nolan.
Look were he got us.
Give Dana a chance and then if he sucks start your B##chin then.
It is not his fault he got hired.
Go Hogs and Go Dana. :razorback:

Yea, that's true.  These boards went crazy when we hired Nolan.

[jamie72921]

That is right we did "alright."

We had an arena that didn't even have seating along the baselines and the goals hung from the rafters.

Sorry folks, a little has changed since then and "alright" is no longer accepteble.

Alright was defined as how Eddie did when he coached here. You're saying going to the Final Four is not acceptable here? Having all-americans like the Triplets is not acceptable?

WHO THE HECK CARES WHAT HIS NAME IS, as long as he WINS!!

We went to A final four. ONE!!!!!!!!!

That's it!!!!!!!!

We only got close to that one more time.

NO, THAT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE now that we are 3 more final fours, a national championship, and a 19000 seat arena down the road.

How many Final 4's has Gillespie been to?  Or Self? 

Isn't the subject Sutton.

I am not a Self believer. I do think Gillispie, though you are correct to point out he isn't truly accomplished yet, shows great promise so far.

[BartIV]

Just because he's from Creighton doesn't mean he's Eddie.

True.  He could end up being better.  Only time will tell.

He could end up being worse. Only time will tell.

Exactly, i only know one thing.  Just like me, you sure as hel1 don't know.

I know coaching records. Dana Altman went to Tourney 8 times out of 18 years.
7 of those times he lost in the first round.
1 of those times he won in the first round against Florida in 2002 "i think" and lost second round. It looks like Stan heath has a better record in the Tourney.

[ishankem]

Altmans record his first few years at Creighton:

year before he arrived:  7-22
his first year:               7-19
his second year:           14-15
his third year:               15-15
his 4th year:                18-10  and a NIT bid

Boy, he really set the world on fire (yawn).  in 4 years, he actually got a NIT bid.  OH Big Woop!   looks mediocre me

[hogsanity]

That is right we did "alright."

We had an arena that didn't even have seating along the baselines and the goals hung from the rafters.

Sorry folks, a little has changed since then and "alright" is no longer accepteble.

Alright was defined as how Eddie did when he coached here. You're saying going to the Final Four is not acceptable here? Having all-americans like the Triplets is not acceptable?

WHO THE HECK CARES WHAT HIS NAME IS, as long as he WINS!!

We went to A final four. ONE!!!!!!!!!

That's it!!!!!!!!

We only got close to that one more time.

NO, THAT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE now that we are 3 more final fours, a national championship, and a 19000 seat arena down the road.

How many Final 4's has Gillespie been to?  Or Self? 

Isn't the subject Sutton.

I am not a Self believer. I do think Gillispie, though you are correct to point out he isn't truly accomplished yet, shows great promise so far.

Sure, Sutton went to one final 4 at Ua.  How many Fonal 4's have Self and Gllespie, the 2 big names we wanted, been to.  Yet you act as if Eddie was not that great?

[zebra]

Great Point!!

[jamie72921]

Eddie wasn't great.

John Wooden, Dean Smith, Coach K, Denny Crum, Bobby Knight, Adolph Rupp, and Iba were great.

Sutton doesn't belong in that list.

I am as much a fan of basketball as I am a Hogfan. The Hogfan in me wants to say Sutton was great because he built our program.

The basketball fan however knows that while Sutton was very good, he was not great.

[HogHillbilly]

I think so, maybe I am wrong.  Didnt Eddie come from there?

I'm tired of being alright all the time...........I want to be great again

I want Arkansas to be feared in the SEC

[Geohul]

Didnt we do alrght the last tme we hired a BB coach from Creighton?  I think so, maybe I am wrong.  Didnt Eddie come from there?

Let's see.  We got an alcoholic who "crwaled" to another school to get away from our god awful AD.  The word no comes to mind.

[Blue35]

We have not come very far in the last 30 years if we still have to go to Creighton to get a head basketball coach. It was one thing to hire a coach from Creighton in 1976 when Ark was in the SWC and Barnhill would only be half full and another thing here in 2007 with a national championship banner and a 19000+ seat arena. Pitiful. I am extremely disappointed.  Bruce Weber or the Pittsburgh coach would have been  better choices. If Frank has 1.5 to 2 million to hire a coach,  he needs to stay on the job until he finds one, not hire the first mid major he likes so he can make it to Augusta for the tee off.

[BartIV]

Didnt we do alrght the last tme we hired a BB coach from Creighton?  I think so, maybe I am wrong.  Didnt Eddie come from there?

Let's see.  We got an alcoholic who "crwaled" to another school to get away from our god awful AD.  The word no comes to mind.

We have had a lot of coachs crawl from Arkansas because of our AD.

[bigbrutha]

Just because he's from Creighton doesn't mean he's Eddie.

True.  He could end up being better.  Only time will tell.

He could end up being worse. Only time will tell.

Exactly, i only know one thing.  Just like me, you sure as hel1 don't know.

I know coaching records. Dana Altman went to Tourney 8 times out of 18 years.
7 of those times he lost in the first round.
1 of those times he won in the first round against Florida in 2002 "i think" and lost second round. It looks like Stan heath has a better record in the Tourney.

Good points.  I fear your instincts are probably correct about Altman.  I do like his experience.  Maybe he just needed a big time shot.