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weresoclose

the ACCUAL ATTENDANCE NUMBERS actually make the point that attendance is not where it should be.

besides your spin that the florida "blizzard" kept out 5k fans, even if you factor that in and then average it out, at the very most it's a plateau from the previous year, not an increase.  then this year we began the gradual descent.  i don't know how much lower we could go, but i do know that the attendance figures clearly seem to have leveled off THE PAST THREE YEARS.  Moreover with a noticable decline this season, you could make the argument that we are plummeting back down.

There, that's an opinion from an anti-nutt, non bac, "stan killed attendance" poster (isn't hater reserved for HDN).

I see the figures, and they prove my point.  People gave Heath the benefit of the doubt for 3 years, then when performance peaked, so did attendance.

brodie_hawg

I can tell you that I have been at every home game the past two seasons and those actual attendance numbers seem a little high to me.   Very few games I would say had 15,000 people in attendance.  So, in nonconference games, its even less.  They tend to look a little inflated to me. 

 

razornole

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hoginsanfran

Quote from: brodie_hawg on March 15, 2007, 02:09:55 pm
I can tell you that I have been at every home game the past two seasons and those actual attendance numbers seem a little high to me.   Very few games I would say had 15,000 people in attendance.  So, in nonconference games, its even less.  They tend to look a little inflated to me. 

agreed they are inflated, but the downtrend started with nolan... it collapsed once we didn't get back to the title game each year, heading down to the historical core.

still, he stopped the bleeding.  the myth of "SELLOUTS IN 2001 UNTIL 'BORING' STAN BALL RAN PEOPLE OFF" is a joke, yet chuck and rick parrot the "business factors will do in stan" all the time... the attendance has plummeted since folks got tired of winning 19, 22, 14, 21 under Nolan... and started to go down.  Yet I bet a poll of Arkansas, 70% would say that Stan has caused attedance to fall.  Historically, nothing could be further than the truth. 

(And the 'inflation' was occurring in 99 too, 2000, 2001, etc... )

HogSophist

Quote from: whatsshakinbacon on March 15, 2007, 07:57:50 am
It's a good post, but I'm weary of everyone comparing Heath and Nutt and saying you can't fire Heath first. 

Look at BWA attendance this year, and I assure you that firing Heath first can and will be done.

It is empty because our basketball isn't fun.  At least football was fun in '06.  Other than a late season rally whereby Arkansas won 3 games that it shouldn't have (something that was not that unusual for us in years past), what has this team really proven?  I'm glad they made the tournament, but I stand by my early season prediction and hope.  If this team, with this talent, doesn't make it to the sweet 16 I would like to see a coaching change and expect we will.

Bacon out...

Quote from: joebut18 on March 15, 2007, 11:12:27 am
Quote from: PiggyBack on March 15, 2007, 10:49:41 am
Quote from: whatsshakinbacon on March 15, 2007, 07:57:50 am
It's a good post, but I'm weary of everyone comparing Heath and Nutt and saying you can't fire Heath first. 

Look at BWA attendance this year, and I assure you that firing Heath first can and will be done.

It is empty because our basketball isn't fun.  At least football was fun in '06.  Other than a late season rally whereby Arkansas won 3 games that it shouldn't have (something that was not that unusual for us in years past), what has this team really proven?  I'm glad they made the tournament, but I stand by my early season prediction and hope.  If this team, with this talent, doesn't make it to the sweet 16 I would like to see a coaching change and expect we will.

Bacon out...

I must take exception with a few points here, Bacon.

IMO, BWA is not full due to the fact that the ARSN talking heads don't support Stan Heath.  Nothing was more boring that Nuttball this past season.  The Ole Miss game was especially boring to watch.  People still came out in droves.  Why?  Because the ARSN talking heads were fired up about Dale.  That and every game was supposed to be "the game" when Gus was "unleashed."  Expectations and an excited radio media kept RRS full.  I believe attendance at BWA would improve if Chuckles and the DTS clowns would support Heath HALF as much as they support Dale.

I have a question:  Why is it that if someone says they won't go to another FB game until Dale is gone they are told that they aren't "real" fans.  They aren't "real" supporters of the program.  But, when folks don't show up to BWA it is because Heath is boring and needs to go.  It smacks of hypocrisy.





WOW....not sure what college football team you watched last season, but I found the games vs. Bama, Vandy, Auburn, LSU, Miss St., Tennessee, and Florida very entertaining to watch.  Seeing D-Mac do everything on offense and a defense exceed many expectations made for exciting viewing IMO.

Oh wait...they didn't throw the ball enough...so it had to be boring.  Give me a break.

The point i think he made, hit home with me. Fine set aside the comparison of the two coaches. Do those "true" fans that call others out for their beliefs (wrong or right, not the point here) about making a statment by not going, do they go and support  the roundballers, since they are true fans, or have they quit going because it is boring....i have no idea, but i think it is a good point
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brodie_hawg

Yes agree that down downward trend in attendance started with nolan.  That is one of the resaons that broyles wanted to let him go the year before he left but they ended up running the table in the sec tourney.  Stan was brought in to right the ship in not only the win column but also the attendance column.

brodie_hawg

I go to all home football and basketball games.  I am indifferent on Nutt.  I will be ok if he stays and ok if he goes.  However, I think stan needs to go.  I guess I am one of those people that hold the basketball program to a different standard.  I have seen a national championship won in basketball in my lifetime.  I have seen the multiply final fours.  However in football, the most success I have seen in its program has been under nutt.  I know you can say that is not much but I was in school here during the danny ford days and it was just pathetic...no excitement whatsoever for the football program.

Quote from: HogSophist on March 15, 2007, 02:23:18 pm
Quote from: whatsshakinbacon on March 15, 2007, 07:57:50 am
It's a good post, but I'm weary of everyone comparing Heath and Nutt and saying you can't fire Heath first. 

Look at BWA attendance this year, and I assure you that firing Heath first can and will be done.

It is empty because our basketball isn't fun.  At least football was fun in '06.  Other than a late season rally whereby Arkansas won 3 games that it shouldn't have (something that was not that unusual for us in years past), what has this team really proven?  I'm glad they made the tournament, but I stand by my early season prediction and hope.  If this team, with this talent, doesn't make it to the sweet 16 I would like to see a coaching change and expect we will.

Bacon out...

Quote from: joebut18 on March 15, 2007, 11:12:27 am
Quote from: PiggyBack on March 15, 2007, 10:49:41 am
Quote from: whatsshakinbacon on March 15, 2007, 07:57:50 am
It's a good post, but I'm weary of everyone comparing Heath and Nutt and saying you can't fire Heath first. 

Look at BWA attendance this year, and I assure you that firing Heath first can and will be done.

It is empty because our basketball isn't fun.  At least football was fun in '06.  Other than a late season rally whereby Arkansas won 3 games that it shouldn't have (something that was not that unusual for us in years past), what has this team really proven?  I'm glad they made the tournament, but I stand by my early season prediction and hope.  If this team, with this talent, doesn't make it to the sweet 16 I would like to see a coaching change and expect we will.

Bacon out...

I must take exception with a few points here, Bacon.

IMO, BWA is not full due to the fact that the ARSN talking heads don't support Stan Heath.  Nothing was more boring that Nuttball this past season.  The Ole Miss game was especially boring to watch.  People still came out in droves.  Why?  Because the ARSN talking heads were fired up about Dale.  That and every game was supposed to be "the game" when Gus was "unleashed."  Expectations and an excited radio media kept RRS full.  I believe attendance at BWA would improve if Chuckles and the DTS clowns would support Heath HALF as much as they support Dale.

I have a question:  Why is it that if someone says they won't go to another FB game until Dale is gone they are told that they aren't "real" fans.  They aren't "real" supporters of the program.  But, when folks don't show up to BWA it is because Heath is boring and needs to go.  It smacks of hypocrisy.





WOW....not sure what college football team you watched last season, but I found the games vs. Bama, Vandy, Auburn, LSU, Miss St., Tennessee, and Florida very entertaining to watch.  Seeing D-Mac do everything on offense and a defense exceed many expectations made for exciting viewing IMO.

Oh wait...they didn't throw the ball enough...so it had to be boring.  Give me a break.

The point i think he made, hit home with me. Fine set aside the comparison of the two coaches. Do those "true" fans that call others out for their beliefs (wrong or right, not the point here) about making a statment by not going, do they go and support  the roundballers, since they are true fans, or have they quit going because it is boring....i have no idea, but i think it is a good point

d1nonlyhogfan

+1. The U of A has redefined "double standard". There is no justification for keeping Nutt while shoving Heath out the door. Makes no sense whatsoever.
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Hog Realist

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Your assessment of her short fuse and out-of-control temper is off base.  There could be some times when she has been provoked.  It doesn't take much.  Bottom line is she has made scene after scene in public places throughout NWA.  Her behavior has not promoted good will for the University of Arkansas or the Athletic Dept.

Just the facts....
Interesting, you answer a reply to give examples and you don't...then say  "Just the facts"  Interesting and contorted way to try and spread half truths. 

If you want to actually make your post worthwhile, and meaningful to the thread..post "facts" not what you've already stated which we clearly dispute as half truths and others have brought up as instances as just that, half truths. 

Bomis Hawg

Just to be clear Vanderbilt was 7-0 at the time at home against the SEC.
They had lost home games to non-conference teams.

Otherwise, solid post.

OKhogfan1959

I don't believe a fan was sitting in the stands yelling racial slurs at Ramona! I don't believe that..If that's true then we have some spineless Hog fans sitting in those areas!!! i would shut that up immediately..No way we should allow that as regular old fans..

I guess I am a fair weather fan..I only go to basketball when we are winning..I love football and have always gone to as many games as I possilby could..I won't go to anymore football games until Nutt is gone..I hope Stan comes back next year. If Ramona is unhappy then I hope Stan gets the Michigan or Iowa gig..I like Stan and believe he's a man of integrity. I also think we could be great next year..

hoginsanfran

Quote from: OKhogfan1959 on March 15, 2007, 05:45:59 pm
I don't believe a fan was sitting in the stands yelling racial slurs at Ramona! I don't believe that..If that's true then we have some spineless Hog fans sitting in those areas!!! i would shut that up immediately..No way we should allow that as regular old fans..

Believe it.  Off and on, but nearly all year during 06.

And when Ramona FINALLY responded to them, to defend her husband and protect her kids from having to hear that, the defense was seen as "ANTICS", and many of the BAC point to her not taking their crap as "setting a bad example".

Are those incidents part of the mythical "Antics File" Opine????

tannerspapa

i am appalled that ANYBODY would be allowed to shout more than one racial slur to a woman with children. I am amazed that those sitting near her did not step up and advise those backward bigots to show respect or they would be leaving. If they did not IMMEDIATELY desist with the verbal attacks i would get security to do something.

I am a 46 year old white male, but before i let four men sit and heckle a woman for color or any other reason, i am going to have to take an ole fashioned country asswhoooping before that is allowed to continue.

SHAME on anybody who heard that and remained silent.

 

hoginsanfran

Quote from: tannerspapa on March 15, 2007, 06:18:04 pm
i am appalled that ANYBODY would be allowed to shout more than one racial slur to a woman with children. I am amazed that those sitting near her did not step up and advise those backward bigots to show respect or they would be leaving. If they did not IMMEDIATELY desist with the verbal attacks i would get security to do something.

I am a 46 year old white male, but before i let four men sit and heckle a woman for color or any other reason, i am going to have to take an ole fashioned country asswhoooping before that is allowed to continue.

SHAME on anybody who heard that and remained silent.

unfortunately, the folks around her at the florida game in particular (scattered seating, people moving around), that were just a few rows behind Ramona that day in particular, were surrounded by less-than-athletically-inclined-whoopa$$-males... the elderly, etc, couldn't really do anything to "step up" on that particular day, which is why Ramona took it upon herself to try to shut them up.  Of course, "RAMONA'S ANTICS" got the attention of the ushers--> cops eventually got involved, and escorted the jerks out.

That was Florida 06, but believe me, that ain't all of it.... had to be tough, you know.

Shout out to certain posters: I want to hear more about specific incidents in this large "Ramona's Antics File" that the Broyles Athletic Center supposedly has?  Care to share any of them with us?  Are you just making stuff up? (not saying you are, just curious)

hawaiianhogster

Why does Arkansas administration, media, Frank, Nutt, and the radio shows people get me so upset that I have to say what I have to say?

Come on Nolan Richardson. Help Heath sue the bejesus out of Arkansas Athletic department/administration. Show Heath what not to say and do. Nolan you know what mistakes you made to prove your point. Stan is more calm and not as outword spoken as you are. Stan deserves another year or two to try to get us in the sweet 16 or better. Stan hasn't deserved this kind of treatment. Nutt doesn't deserve to be treated better because he is WHITE! I'm white and proud of it. Yet Nutt has made it difficult for me to believe there is no prejudice at Arkansas. Fire two black coaches for not winning more and keep a white man for losing two straight seasons. I'm crying foul. I'm crying prejudice against the UA Athletic administration/department if they fire Stan Heath after this season is over. I will write other conferences, sports casters, sports media and everyone else I have the ability to write or talk to and tell them of the prejudice that's growing rampant at the UA Administration/athletic department. Please don't make me do this. Keep Stan for at least one more year. If he doesn't get us to the big dance and beyond then maybe then he deserves to be let go.

As I have stated before you better fire Nutt first if you don't want the world tumbling down around you.

pigture perfect

Quote from: donewithdale on March 15, 2007, 07:59:49 am
Quote from: pigture perfect on March 15, 2007, 01:11:37 am
I don't believe the Administration is concerned about firing Stan this year. After next year perhaps, but not after this year. As for White not offering a voice of support for Stan, I just ask, How many months did Houston Nutt get harassed by message boards, fans and media before he made a statement. I look for White to be very supportive of the coach, after the tourney is over.

Are you sure?  Ticket sales and revenue are down and they supposedly have a big name proven coach on the line.  The only way it looks like Stan survives is by winning one or two or that big name coach isn't a sure enough thing to take the chance.

I'm not saying its right or wrong. 
No, I'm not sure of anything that happens up on the hill anymore. My primary point was that I think White will wait until after the season to say anything about Stan, and I believe it will be positive in nature. It may even be a "Thanks for the job you did while you were here" speech. I do believe Stan has earned another year.
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brodie_hawg

I am tired of the racism thing.  Forget sports for a minute.  Take two corporations:  One is making you more money than it ever has.  The other is losing more money each year...compared to what it was making during the businesses glory days.  Regardless of performance, the CEO of the company losing money needs to go.

hoginsanfran

Quote from: brodie_hawg on March 15, 2007, 07:11:04 pm
I am tired of the racism thing.  Forget sports for a minute.  Take two corporations:  One is making you more money than it ever has.  The other is losing more money each year...compared to what it was making during the businesses glory days.  Regardless of performance, the CEO of the company losing money needs to go.

What if CEO 1 lost money 2 years in a row and then was given "new life" and produced after the 2 losing seasons?

What if CEO 2 never lost money (and actually INCREASED profits) every year until now, but no chances, no extra time, no patience, no leeway, no 2 years of losing money, no new life... just fired?

Now imagine CEO 1 is white and CEO 2 is black, and the Board is white and a previous CEO said race IS an issue.

Yeah, taht would be crazy to even consider though!

brodie_hawg

I do not think football donations went down during those 2 losing seasons.  From what I have heard with basketball, even though attendance has slightly improved the donations have not.  THere was never any apathy with the football program during those 2 years.  Most friends of mine that I talk with could careless what goes on with the basketball program. 

brodie_hawg

IF the athletic director were racist, he never would have hired an african american coach in the first place.

hoginsanfran

Quote from: brodie_hawg on March 15, 2007, 07:26:56 pm
IF the athletic director were racist, he never would have hired an african american coach in the first place.

WHOA WHOA WHOA.  let me be clear.  I am not implying, or accusing, or even analyzing, that Frank or the BAC is racist.

Maybe he is, I seriously dobubt it, but either way that is not my point.

What I am implying is that Stan heath, and the career of Stan heath, is simply a pawn in a giant good-ole-boy-chess game.  The BAC is on a mission to get of stan, but not for the reasons you might see reported on ESPN.

brodie_hawg

I do believe the good ole boy system has been in affect and that is why nutt is still around.  However, john white was not part of that good ole boy system and I think he wants stan gone as much as anyone else. 

hoginsanfran

Quote from: brodie_hawg on March 15, 2007, 07:55:01 pm
I do believe the good ole boy system has been in affect and that is why nutt is still around.  However, john white was not part of that good ole boy system and I think he wants stan gone as much as anyone else. 

then what did john w say to stan when he rushed the court after the vandy win?  who pulled for stan in the first place over the others?

Razorod

Very simply put, Heath is not a very good coach. Nutt, and this pains me to say it, is a better fb coach than Heath is a bb coach.
Hoping the Hogs basketball fortunes change for the better this season.

 

Cajun Hog

Quote from: opineonswine on March 15, 2007, 12:56:44 pm
Quote from: Hog Realist on March 14, 2007, 11:57:45 pm
+1 definitly.
The Ramona rumor is clearly the most worn out and untrue rumor out there.  She sure was jumping for joy when we beat Vanderbilt from her spot in the stands. 

You couldn't be more wrong.  The University has a rather thick file on Ramona Heath's antics throughout NWA over a long period of time.  She is a holy terror.  She has done things and said things of a most offensive nature and it is widely known as fact....not rumor.  She makes no secret of her feelings and isn't careful about what she says, where she says it or who she says it to.  If you think otherwise you are grossly misinformed.

Her list of antics would be at least 3 pages. She doesn't want to be here, by her actions.

Rzrbckr

Good post hogginsanfran.
I disagree with this ."And every night, Stan has to wonder, "so why won't they comment on the leak?""  As far as any of us know the administration has already told Heath they support him.

rangehog

Quote from: brodie_hawg on March 15, 2007, 07:11:04 pm
I am tired of the racism thing.  Forget sports for a minute.  Take two corporations:  One is making you more money than it ever has.  The other is losing more money each year...compared to what it was making during the businesses glory days.  Regardless of performance, the CEO of the company losing money needs to go.

I didn't buy my bball tickets this year, not because of a boring style of play, but because I'm so fed up with the whole dang football program I'll never attend another sports event that involves the U of A until Nutt is gone. The football program will soon see how many of us will not be buying our season tickets this year, I'm sure they won't have a clue as to why either. I bet they won't blame Nutt, but rip us sorry fans instead.

Broken Trigger


turbo2000

A lot has been written and even more has been said about attendance being down this season as a possible reason to fire Heath. From Hogwired.com some interesting numbers.

Season      Total Attendance   Average/Game
01/02        241033             15056
02/03        236638             14790
03/04        236676             14792
04/05        252608             15788
05/06        239336             14958
06/07        267520             16720

Looks like attendance is up this yr from last yr and up from when Heath took over in 02/03.

Football:

97      280724      46787
98      315597      52600
99      321840      53640
00      355452      50779
01      424934      60705
02      486016      60752
03      445119      63588
04      409275      68212
05      382070      63678
06      499201      71314

mbgrulz

Quote from: hogapalooza on March 15, 2007, 11:36:13 pm
After further PM discusion.  It's back.
what's back?

on the attendance post above, i'd be willing to bet that it goes down this year. a lot of those people were hoping to see the HUNH or something that gus might pull out.


HogSophist

Quote from: turbo2000 on March 15, 2007, 09:49:54 pm
A lot has been written and even more has been said about attendance being down this season as a possible reason to fire Heath. From Hogwired.com some interesting numbers.

Season      Total Attendance   Average/Game
01/02        241033             15056
02/03        236638             14790
03/04        236676             14792
04/05        252608             15788
05/06        239336             14958
06/07        267520             16720

Looks like attendance is up this yr from last yr and up from when Heath took over in 02/03.

Football:

97      280724      46787
98      315597      52600
99      321840      53640
00      355452      50779
01      424934      60705
02      486016      60752
03      445119      63588
04      409275      68212
05      382070      63678
06      499201      71314


if these numbers are accurate, where is the discussion?????
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In an era where there are over $70 trillion in future obligations, beyond the debt,   taking up practices in budgeting that are tantamount to saying 'And then in 2040, a magic dragon will sh*tpoopy $100 trillion and fix our problems'  simply isn't wise. --ErieHog

LilRounDevil


WestMemphisHogFan


hoginsanfran


WestMemphisHogFan

March 16, 2007, 09:35:43 am #85 Last Edit: March 16, 2007, 10:29:00 am by WestMemphisHogFan
Quote from: hoginsanfran on March 16, 2007, 08:58:15 am
Quote from: WestMemphisHogFan on March 16, 2007, 08:21:37 am
Quote from: LilRounDevil on March 16, 2007, 08:13:11 am
Facts can be very deceiving.

Especially in the wrong hands.

Care to expand a little on this one? ;)  What do you mean?

A hugger will take those numbers and have justification for his stance on the Head coaches.  Numbers are improving.  A darksider will take those same  numbers and say, "that is sold tickets, not actual attendance. The real numbers are much, much lower than that."  So...these facts can be very deceiving in the wrong hands.  How deceptive and what determines wrong hands?  I guess it depends on what you want the numbers to say to you, and which side of the HC debate you fall on. 

Stella

The only person who should be gone now is NUTT!

d1nonlyhogfan

Quote from: turbo2000 on March 15, 2007, 09:49:54 pm
A lot has been written and even more has been said about attendance being down this season as a possible reason to fire Heath. From Hogwired.com some interesting numbers.

Season      Total Attendance   Average/Game
01/02        241033             15056
02/03        236638             14790
03/04        236676             14792
04/05        252608             15788
05/06        239336             14958
06/07        267520             16720

Looks like attendance is up this yr from last yr and up from when Heath took over in 02/03.

Football:

97      280724      46787
98      315597      52600
99      321840      53640
00      355452      50779
01      424934      60705
02      486016      60752
03      445119      63588
04      409275      68212
05      382070      63678
06      499201      71314

When was RRS expanded to seat more again?
"The man who complains about the way the ball bounces is likely the one who dropped it." -- Lou Holtz

"I have yet to be in a game where luck was involved. Well-prepared players make plays. I have yet to be in a game where the most prepared team didn't win." -- Urban Meyer

razorbackntexas

Very nice post. Ever think of being a columnist?
Quote from: losthawg68 on June 03, 2010, 02:26:15 am
This dude has some superhot friends and his girl is also in the upper echelon of scenery.

d1nonlyhogfan

Quote from: brodie_hawg on March 15, 2007, 02:49:45 pm
Yes agree that down downward trend in attendance started with nolan.  That is one of the resaons that broyles wanted to let him go the year before he left but they ended up running the table in the sec tourney.  Stan was brought in to right the ship in not only the win column but also the attendance column.
Wrong. Stan was brought in because of the racial issue with Nolan and because he had just taken Kent St. to the Elite 8. Notice how talk about Stan Heath being fired coincides with the Nolan issue finally dying down and Nolan's payoff being in its last year? Stan has not done any worse than Nutt has and has been given less time to work with, yet he's the only one on the hot seat. Countless efforts have been made by the Athletic Department to help Nutt maintain support, including the 2-year pass, expanding the stadium, forcing the hire of Malzahn in order to get his prized recruits, and a statement from the Chancellor stating that they support him. Heath, on the other hand, has had no help whatsoever, and has had more pressure put on him (i.e. "Make the NCAAT or you're outta here!") than Nutt ever dreamed of. If Nutt were being held to the same standard, he should have been gone after not making a bowl game 2 years in a row--I mean, over half of all teams in NCAA D I-A football get to play in a bowl every year.
"The man who complains about the way the ball bounces is likely the one who dropped it." -- Lou Holtz

"I have yet to be in a game where luck was involved. Well-prepared players make plays. I have yet to be in a game where the most prepared team didn't win." -- Urban Meyer

weresoclose

Quote from: hawaiianhogster on March 15, 2007, 06:45:22 pm
Why does Arkansas administration, media, Frank, Nutt, and the radio shows people get me so upset that I have to say what I have to say?

Come on Nolan Richardson. Help Heath sue the bejesus out of Arkansas Athletic department/administration. Show Heath what not to say and do. Nolan you know what mistakes you made to prove your point. Stan is more calm and not as outword spoken as you are. Stan deserves another year or two to try to get us in the sweet 16 or better. Stan hasn't deserved this kind of treatment. Nutt doesn't deserve to be treated better because he is WHITE! I'm white and proud of it. Yet Nutt has made it difficult for me to believe there is no prejudice at Arkansas. Fire two black coaches for not winning more and keep a white man for losing two straight seasons. I'm crying foul. I'm crying prejudice against the UA Athletic administration/department if they fire Stan Heath after this season is over. I will write other conferences, sports casters, sports media and everyone else I have the ability to write or talk to and tell them of the prejudice that's growing rampant at the UA Administration/athletic department. Please don't make me do this. Keep Stan for at least one more year. If he doesn't get us to the big dance and beyond then maybe then he deserves to be let go.

As I have stated before you better fire Nutt first if you don't want the world tumbling down around you.

This is simply hatred for the U of A, stemming from your hatred for Nutt and spreading out to now the entire program.  You want the worst for the Univ and to me that is grounds for black-balling you as a fan.

You are as screwed up as anyone since Nolan's breakdown.  You have no clue the actual working of any athletic department.   You do not want the best for our program.  You should find another program to wish harm on.  You're dead to me.  And I imagine if you spew this filth wherever you go, you're dead to a lot more people than just me. 

We're so close to having you shut your stinking piehole when Heath is gone and nobody but Nolan and the paranoia posse are squawking to anyone who will listen:  which will be only you.



Sorry mods, this is simply deliberatly wishing harm to the entire Razorback Athletic program.  I am not name-calling.  Just simply calling a spade a spade.

LilRounDevil

Quote from: weresoclose on March 16, 2007, 12:56:35 pm
Quote from: hawaiianhogster on March 15, 2007, 06:45:22 pm
Why does Arkansas administration, media, Frank, Nutt, and the radio shows people get me so upset that I have to say what I have to say?

Come on Nolan Richardson. Help Heath sue the bejesus out of Arkansas Athletic department/administration. Show Heath what not to say and do. Nolan you know what mistakes you made to prove your point. Stan is more calm and not as outword spoken as you are. Stan deserves another year or two to try to get us in the sweet 16 or better. Stan hasn't deserved this kind of treatment. Nutt doesn't deserve to be treated better because he is WHITE! I'm white and proud of it. Yet Nutt has made it difficult for me to believe there is no prejudice at Arkansas. Fire two black coaches for not winning more and keep a white man for losing two straight seasons. I'm crying foul. I'm crying prejudice against the UA Athletic administration/department if they fire Stan Heath after this season is over. I will write other conferences, sports casters, sports media and everyone else I have the ability to write or talk to and tell them of the prejudice that's growing rampant at the UA Administration/athletic department. Please don't make me do this. Keep Stan for at least one more year. If he doesn't get us to the big dance and beyond then maybe then he deserves to be let go.

As I have stated before you better fire Nutt first if you don't want the world tumbling down around you.

This is simply hatred for the U of A, stemming from your hatred for Nutt and spreading out to now the entire program.  You want the worst for the Univ and to me that is grounds for black-balling you as a fan.

You are as screwed up as anyone since Nolan's breakdown.  You have no clue the actual working of any athletic department.  You do not want the best for our program.  You should find another program to wish harm on.  You're dead to me.  And I imagine if you spew this filth wherever you go, you're dead to a lot more people than just me. 

We're so close to having you shut your stinking piehole when Heath is gone and nobody but Nolan and the paranoia posse are squawking to anyone who will listen:  which will be only you.



Sorry mods, this is simply deliberatly wishing harm to the entire Razorback Athletic program.  I am not name-calling.  Just simply calling a spade a spade.

You don't have to support the program to be a real fan.

weresoclose

Quote from: LilRounDevil on March 16, 2007, 12:58:40 pm
Quote from: weresoclose on March 16, 2007, 12:56:35 pm
Quote from: hawaiianhogster on March 15, 2007, 06:45:22 pm
Why does Arkansas administration, media, Frank, Nutt, and the radio shows people get me so upset that I have to say what I have to say?

Come on Nolan Richardson. Help Heath sue the bejesus out of Arkansas Athletic department/administration. Show Heath what not to say and do. Nolan you know what mistakes you made to prove your point. Stan is more calm and not as outword spoken as you are. Stan deserves another year or two to try to get us in the sweet 16 or better. Stan hasn't deserved this kind of treatment. Nutt doesn't deserve to be treated better because he is WHITE! I'm white and proud of it. Yet Nutt has made it difficult for me to believe there is no prejudice at Arkansas. Fire two black coaches for not winning more and keep a white man for losing two straight seasons. I'm crying foul. I'm crying prejudice against the UA Athletic administration/department if they fire Stan Heath after this season is over. I will write other conferences, sports casters, sports media and everyone else I have the ability to write or talk to and tell them of the prejudice that's growing rampant at the UA Administration/athletic department. Please don't make me do this. Keep Stan for at least one more year. If he doesn't get us to the big dance and beyond then maybe then he deserves to be let go.

As I have stated before you better fire Nutt first if you don't want the world tumbling down around you.

This is simply hatred for the U of A, stemming from your hatred for Nutt and spreading out to now the entire program.  You want the worst for the Univ and to me that is grounds for black-balling you as a fan.

You are as screwed up as anyone since Nolan's breakdown.  You have no clue the actual working of any athletic department.  You do not want the best for our program.  You should find another program to wish harm on.  You're dead to me.  And I imagine if you spew this filth wherever you go, you're dead to a lot more people than just me. 

We're so close to having you shut your stinking piehole when Heath is gone and nobody but Nolan and the paranoia posse are squawking to anyone who will listen:  which will be only you.



Sorry mods, this is simply deliberatly wishing harm to the entire Razorback Athletic program.  I am not name-calling.  Just simply calling a spade a spade.

You don't have to support the program to be a real fan.

If you don't support the program, what do you support? 

The helmet?  Frivolous lawsuits?