Here is the only thing that I does not make any sense...why would JC

[titan12071973]

flirt with Arkansas just to get a raise AFTER signing a 1 years extension? Even considering his history I don't think he would try and pull that one off. It seems that until he was able to obtain information that Arkansas would listen and respond to his interest in the job, he was totally content to stay where he was. He does have a good thing going, but what could he do at Arkansas? This guy has been a big fish in a small pond the two places he has coached in college. Arkansas and the SEC, other than the big 5 jobs, it doesn't get much bigger than that. On this one I am going to use logic and wait till I hear something from his mouth from more than one source. :razorback: I think we all should. This is not the BCG situation. :razorback:

[HeathWimp]

Just trying to use us big dummies as leverage for more money from Memphis.

[ark30inf]

It's possible that he saw the BCG situation and decided to pile on.  If we ask him....and he turns us down....he will be able to go to recruits and say...."I turned them down, you should too".

He has done that before by no longer scheduling us (so we don't get media attention there) and saying we are "unworthy" (to decrease our repuation in Memphis).

Memphis has been a fertile recruiting ground for UA.  Calipari has been protecting his own turf.  This may or may not be another move like that.

[ark30inf]

Just trying to use us big dummies as leverage for more money from Memphis.

Memphis is not Texas A&M.  The money leverage argument does not apply as much to them.  If we got in a bidding war with A&M we lose.  If we got in a bidding war with Memphis, we win.

[arklahoman36]

flirt with Arkansas just to get a raise AFTER signing a 1 years extension? Even considering his history I don't think he would try and pull that one off. It seems that until he was able to obtain information that Arkansas would listen and respond to his interest in the job, he was totally content to stay where he was. He does have a good thing going, but what could he do at Arkansas? This guy has been a big fish in a small pond the two places he has coached in college. Arkansas and the SEC, other than the big 5 jobs, it doesn't get much bigger than that. On this one I am going to use logic and wait till I hear something from his mouth from more than one source. :razorback: I think we all should. This is not the BCG situation. :razorback:

I don't know if the information was correct, but on one of the Memphis boards, they said while he agreed to the two-year extension -- he hasn't actually signed it yet. Like I say, don't know if that was correct or not. But if it is, it would give some credence to the leverage argument.

[3kgthog]

Calipari hasn't actually SIGNED his one year extension has he? Isn't it still sitting on his desk?

[arklahoman36]

Just trying to use us big dummies as leverage for more money from Memphis.

Memphis is not Texas A&M.  The money leverage argument does not apply as much to them.  If we got in a bidding war with A&M we lose.  If we got in a bidding war with Memphis, we win.

But if he prefers Memphis, it doesn't necessarily mean he's expecting more than what Arkansas offers, just more than what he's getting from Memphis right now.

[moses_007]

How do we know Memphis won't fork out $2.5 million themselves to keep Coach C?  We don't know that guys.  I doubt Memphis is as financially bad off as Mississippi State. :razorback:

[discombobulationist]

I just ran across this article where JC declined the Missouri job in '99 after being fired by the Nets. It says he was visiting his in-laws in Osceola when he made the decision. Anybody know which Osceola his in-laws live in?
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/college/news/1999/04/06/calipari_missouri/

Apparently Missouri was going to interview Bill Self from Tulsa afterward. I guess he turned them down too.

[ark30inf]

Just trying to use us big dummies as leverage for more money from Memphis.

Memphis is not Texas A&M.  The money leverage argument does not apply as much to them.  If we got in a bidding war with A&M we lose.  If we got in a bidding war with Memphis, we win.

But if he prefers Memphis, it doesn't necessarily mean he's expecting more than what Arkansas offers, just more than what he's getting from Memphis right now.

I don't presume to know his, or Memphis's mind.  But my impression of Calipari is that its not about a few hundred thousand dollars out of millions.  His is more about media attention and being one of the top coaches, and moving toward that "greatest coach of all time" goal.  And we can admit that no matter what, Memphis is not Texas A&M.

I see it two ways.
1) He is piling on after BCG.  To knock us down further, give recruiting ammo, get his name in the media as "desirable".  Arkansas IS a big recruiting competitor on his home turf.  One of the biggest.  Any damage to a foolish-looking UA is good for the Memphis program.  It may be about that, and not money.
2) He really is interested in ditching CUSA while he is hot and moving from a mid-major conference and getting on tv more.  The SEC West is ripe for the plucking.  This is not like taking a job at NC State.  This would be taking a job with a team with a lot of unfocused talent in a division that sucks.  He could really rip through the SEC West if he put his mind to it.

So I don't think its about money.....but I am not sure which "ego" element is the key factor here.  Given his past comments about UA and not scheduling us (smart moves) I am leaning toward the idea that he is piling on after BCG.

[MTPAWR]

Calipari is a marketing major. He knows how to keep his name out front and center during the final four hype. He does this every year. From this point on Cal will be able to look recruits and their families in the eye, and tell them he turned down offers from the SEC and the ACC to coach at Memphis. Cal will then use his personal  decision making process to explain to the recruits why they should then come to Memphis. Cal works the national media better than any coach in America today. He may be the best recruiter in all of America.

[Hogustus Caesar]

It was reported that JC did have an extension sitting on his desk and that it is unsigned. Other media outlets have reported that JC was to sign after returning from the final 4. This much we know to be true about the contract at Memphis.

[ark30inf]

Calipari is a marketing major. He knows how to keep his name out front and center during the final four hype. He does this every year. From this point on Cal will be able to look recruits and their families in the eye, and tell them he turned down offes from the SEC and the ACC to coach at Memphis. Cal will then use his personal  decision making process to explain to the recruits why they should come to Memphis. Cal works the national media better than any coach in America today.

I think you may be right that its about knocking one of his biggest recruiting competitors (us) down a notch.  The only way it might not be, is if he is tired of not getting on tv playing CUSA teams and getting no respect during the year.  I don't think its money, its one of those two.

[OrvilleRedenporker]

Here's a pretty cool coaching bio on Calipari from Wikipedia.....

In his first 15 seasons as a collegiate head coach, Calipari's record is 374-134 (.736). His record in the month of March is 75-29 (.721). His record in the NCAA tournament is 18-9 (.667) and in the NIT is 15-5 (.750). He has made nine NCAA tournaments, the Sweet Sixteen five times, the Elite Eight four times, and the Final Four one time. He has made five NITs, with one championship at Memphis in 2002. He is one of only three coaches in NCAA Division I history to direct two different schools to a number one seed in the NCAA Tournament; Roy Williams and Bill Self are the others.
Through 15 collegiate seasons, only North Carolina coach Roy Williams has won more games than Calipari. He hit the 300-win mark in February of 2005 when his Tigers upset No. 9 Louisville 85-68 in Freedom Hall.

SOLID.

[hogblade]

Calipari probably just hates Arkansas that he wants mess with us, and tease us. Is he that diabolical?

[ark30inf]

Calipari probably just hates Arkansas that he wants mess with us, and tease us. Is he that diabolical?

It would have nothing to do with hating us, it would have to do with protecting his recruiting turf in Memphis against a major competitor.  Arkansans have to take everything as a "they hate us" situation which is silly.     

[MtownTiger]

Calipari is a marketing major. He knows how to keep his name out front and center during the final four hype. He does this every year. From this point on Cal will be able to look recruits and their families in the eye, and tell them he turned down offes from the SEC and the ACC to coach at Memphis. Cal will then use his personal  decision making process to explain to the recruits why they should come to Memphis. Cal works the national media better than any coach in America today.

I think you may be right that its about knocking one of his biggest recruiting competitors (us) down a notch.  The only way it might not be, is if he is tired of not getting on tv playing CUSA teams and getting no respect during the year.  I don't think its money, its one of those two.

Sorry, but you really aren't one of our recruiting competitors.
Most of our recruits didn't list Arkansas as an interest, and right now we've given out most of our scholarships.
Check out our recruits coming in:
Derrick Rose
http://youtube.com/watch?v=w6G_RRGHzfA
Jeff Robinson
http://www.hssmtv.com/HSSMTV%20Template/With_FL/HTML/Players%202007%20Index.html  (click his name)
and S. Taggert-- a stud transfer from Iowa St. who will be eligible to play next year.

Not to mention the identical 6'9 Morris twins from Philadelphia who have committed for 2008.

5 years ago, we did compete with you for recruits, but since we don't rely on Memphis recruits much anymore,  there's really not any competition.

[mapdude]

Just trying to use us big dummies as leverage for more money from Memphis.

Memphis is not Texas A&M.  The money leverage argument does not apply as much to them.  If we got in a bidding war with A&M we lose.  If we got in a bidding war with Memphis, we win.

Wrong...talk facts, not opinions.  Memphis can and will go north of $3MM if they have to in order to keep Cal.  That is a fact...

[mapdude]

flirt with Arkansas just to get a raise AFTER signing a 1 years extension? Even considering his history I don't think he would try and pull that one off. It seems that until he was able to obtain information that Arkansas would listen and respond to his interest in the job, he was totally content to stay where he was. He does have a good thing going, but what could he do at Arkansas? This guy has been a big fish in a small pond the two places he has coached in college. Arkansas and the SEC, other than the big 5 jobs, it doesn't get much bigger than that. On this one I am going to use logic and wait till I hear something from his mouth from more than one source. :razorback: I think we all should. This is not the BCG situation. :razorback:

I don't know if the information was correct, but on one of the Memphis boards, they said while he agreed to the two-year extension -- he hasn't actually signed it yet. Like I say, don't know if that was correct or not. But if it is, it would give some credence to the leverage argument.

Once again, post only facts....it was a one year extension.

[mapdude]

Calipari hasn't actually SIGNED his one year extension has he? Isn't it still sitting on his desk?

He's at the friggin Final Four!!!!!!  You think he is gonna fly back just to sign a contract that can wait till he gets back?

[ark30inf]

Just trying to use us big dummies as leverage for more money from Memphis.

Memphis is not Texas A&M.  The money leverage argument does not apply as much to them.  If we got in a bidding war with A&M we lose.  If we got in a bidding war with Memphis, we win.

Wrong...talk facts, not opinions.  Memphis can and will go north of $3MM if they have to in order to keep Cal.  That is a fact...

Well, thats fine.  I do not mind them giving Calipari that money instead of doing other things with it.  If thats the case then it was good to do this.  They are still not A&M.  A&M could pay $3 without blinking....Memphis will definitely have to scrape hard.

[mapdude]

I think you may be right that its about knocking one of his biggest recruiting competitors (us) down a notch.  The only way it might not be, is if he is tired of not getting on tv playing CUSA teams and getting no respect during the year.  I don't think its money, its one of those two.

Your kidding, right?  Biggest recruiting competitors???  BWAAAAAAAHAHHAHAHA!!!

Tired of not getting on TV??? Your kidding, right??

[ark30inf]

Calipari is a marketing major. He knows how to keep his name out front and center during the final four hype. He does this every year. From this point on Cal will be able to look recruits and their families in the eye, and tell them he turned down offes from the SEC and the ACC to coach at Memphis. Cal will then use his personal  decision making process to explain to the recruits why they should come to Memphis. Cal works the national media better than any coach in America today.

I think you may be right that its about knocking one of his biggest recruiting competitors (us) down a notch.  The only way it might not be, is if he is tired of not getting on tv playing CUSA teams and getting no respect during the year.  I don't think its money, its one of those two.

Sorry, but you really aren't one of our recruiting competitors.
Most of our recruits didn't list Arkansas as an interest, and right now we've given out most of our scholarships.
Check out our recruits coming in:
Derrick Rose
http://youtube.com/watch?v=w6G_RRGHzfA
Jeff Robinson
http://www.hssmtv.com/HSSMTV%20Template/With_FL/HTML/Players%202007%20Index.html  (click his name)
and S. Taggert-- a stud transfer from Iowa St. who will be eligible to play next year.

Not to mention the identical 6'9 Morris twins from Philadelphia who have committed for 2008.

5 years ago, we did compete with you for recruits, but since we don't rely on Memphis recruits much anymore,  there's really not any competition.

We did recruit in Memphis quite a bit and could do so again.  Its understandable that you want to minimize our program, but the fact is that we are not Rhodes College in basketball and have been an irritating recruiting competition to Memphis in the past.  That is exactly why Memphis dropped us from the schedule and attempted to dismiss us as unworthy....not because they just have some hate for us.

[ark30inf]

I think you may be right that its about knocking one of his biggest recruiting competitors (us) down a notch.  The only way it might not be, is if he is tired of not getting on tv playing CUSA teams and getting no respect during the year.  I don't think its money, its one of those two.

Your kidding, right?  Biggest recruiting competitors???  BWAAAAAAAHAHHAHAHA!!!

Tired of not getting on TV??? Your kidding, right??

The big question all year was "is Memphis for real?"....."is Memphis really for real?". Memphis is only where it is do to coaching skill, not due to strength or repuation of program as a whole. So don't get the big head about the Memphis program.  You are not Kentucky.

[HAM ELLIOT]

The Memphis guys are cracking me up. They have two decent years, and all the sudden they are then National Power in basketball.  Tradition, facilities, recruits.  ha ha  Just a couple of years ago, no one even knew that Memphis had a team.

[discombobulationist]

Just trying to use us big dummies as leverage for more money from Memphis.

Memphis is not Texas A&M.  The money leverage argument does not apply as much to them.  If we got in a bidding war with A&M we lose.  If we got in a bidding war with Memphis, we win.

Wrong...talk facts, not opinions.  Memphis can and will go north of $3MM if they have to in order to keep Cal.  That is a fact...

If this is indeed a fact, can you please list your source? Are you personally going to pony up the 3 mil?

[phoggy]

Surely Cal didn't contact us in order to get a raise from UM.

[ark30inf]

The Memphis guys are cracking me up. They have two decent years, and all the sudden they are then National Power in basketball.  Tradition, facilities, recruits.  ha ha  Just a couple of years ago, no one even knew that Memphis had a team.

The Memphis guys are cracking me up. They have two decent years, and all the sudden they are then National Power in basketball.  Tradition, facilities, recruits.  ha ha  Just a couple of years ago, no one even knew that Memphis had a team.

Memphis is a province in Volunteer country.  Their support is the metro area and they are always going to have trouble with that.  They are an outpost within SEC territory.  Arkansas to the West, Ole Miss and Miss State to the South, Tennessee to the East, Kentucky to the North.  Lots of recruiting pressure there.  They are doing pretty good right now protecting their own turf and branching out.  But its always going to be a problem in establishing some sort of major program.  Being smack dab in the middle of SEC country is tough.

[tusksincolorado]

MEMPHIS! Excuse me, it is Memphis State, or better yet, MEMPHIS / TIGER HIGH!!!!!!! Second rate, always has been, always will be! Just go slink back over to your side of the river, we will let you know when your coach becomes our coach! Oh, by the way, the SEC doesn't need you!   :razorback:

[ark30inf]

Surely Cal didn't contact us in order to get a raise from UM.

He either did it to get a job in a higher profile conference.....or he did it to screw us over in recruiting with it if he needs to.  Money has little to do with it IMO.  We might get screwed, and we might get a coach.....but either way we had to make the effort and take the risk.  If he's messing with us its nothing to get bent out of shape about.

[Razorbacking02]

This whole arguement about JC milking Arkansas for more money is bogus to me. I understood the case BG, because TXAM has more money then Arkansas. However in this situation, Arkansas has more money then Memphis. If he is playing both sides for "money", then Arkansas obviously is going to win because a) they have deeper pockets and b) are willing to go deep in order to "save face" with their fan base and peers.

Now don't get what I am saying wrong. JC may truely not be interested in the UA job. He may really enjoy coaching Memphis and feel as though he could stay there until possibly an elite job opens up. There are other reasons other then money, however if money is his driving force, my money is that early next week he will be at a press conference in Fayetville calling the hogs.

[MtownTiger]

It's ok to be jealous of us.

[ark30inf]

It's ok to be jealous of us.

lol, I am an ASU fan and I'm not even jealous of you.

[LunaticRed]

Who is on who's board..........Your jealous of my hog

[missjtiger]

Why is it so hard to believe that your AD asked for permission to talk to Cal (DOES NOT MEAN THAT CAL IS INTERESTED) and Cal said he wasn't interested ? I know you guys/gals don't have any respect for Memphis and really who the heck cares if you do or don't but Cal happens to be content in Memphis. We will have a damn good team next year and probably for the next couple of years. Cal has NOT finished what he came to do in Memphis yet. Good luck in your search.

We DO have top-notch facilities
We DO pay him top-dollar
We DO have Fed-Ex and some big $ boosters
We DO have top 10 attendances year after year

Our conference sucks but we do manage to play a pretty tough OOC schedule. Memphis loves Cal and Cal loves Memphis. He would NOT be a good fit in Ark., believe me when I say this.

[rude1]

Calipari probably just hates Arkansas that he wants mess with us, and tease us. Is he that diabolical?

It would have nothing to do with hating us, it would have to do with protecting his recruiting turf in Memphis against a major competitor.  Arkansans have to take everything as a "they hate us" situation which is silly.     

I don't get where everyone gets this, "Calipari wants to use this to further his recruiting efforts against us", idea. We quit getting players out of Memphis BEFORE Calipari got there. That pipeline dried up while Nolan was still coaching. Wasn't the last kid we got from there that Marlon Townes kid, who ended up transferring after he and Reid got busted smoking pot? Out recruiting us would be the last thing Calipari has to concern himself about.

[Killean]

Calipari probably just hates Arkansas that he wants mess with us, and tease us. Is he that diabolical?

It would have nothing to do with hating us, it would have to do with protecting his recruiting turf in Memphis against a major competitor.  Arkansans have to take everything as a "they hate us" situation which is silly.    

I don't get where everyone gets this, "Calipari wants to use this to further his recruiting efforts against us", idea. We quit getting players out of Memphis BEFORE Calipari got there. That pipeline dried up while Nolan was still coaching. Wasn't the last kid we got from there that Marlon Townes kid, who ended up transferring after he and Reid got busted smoking pot? Out recruiting us would be the last thing Calipari has to concern himself about.

Not to mention that if Calipari did this for that reason, Broyles would use every connection and favor he had to bury him.  There's no way Calipari would survive that.  There's no way a non-major program could survive it.

[ark30inf]

Calipari probably just hates Arkansas that he wants mess with us, and tease us. Is he that diabolical?

It would have nothing to do with hating us, it would have to do with protecting his recruiting turf in Memphis against a major competitor.  Arkansans have to take everything as a "they hate us" situation which is silly.     

I don't get where everyone gets this, "Calipari wants to use this to further his recruiting efforts against us", idea. We quit getting players out of Memphis BEFORE Calipari got there. That pipeline dried up while Nolan was still coaching. Wasn't the last kid we got from there that Marlon Townes kid, who ended up transferring after he and Reid got busted smoking pot? Out recruiting us would be the last thing Calipari has to concern himself about.

Do you believe that we are not a threat to recruit in Memphis?  When we get a new coach could he recruit in Memphis?  If he did would we be attractive again to Memphis recruits?  Why did Memphis stop scheduling us?  Its not because they "hate" us.  Its because they did not want us getting additional exposure in their recruiting base.  Just because Heath did not recruit there does not mean that Arkansas will not be recruiting there and is not a perceived competitor.

[ark30inf]

Calipari probably just hates Arkansas that he wants mess with us, and tease us. Is he that diabolical?

It would have nothing to do with hating us, it would have to do with protecting his recruiting turf in Memphis against a major competitor.  Arkansans have to take everything as a "they hate us" situation which is silly.     

I don't get where everyone gets this, "Calipari wants to use this to further his recruiting efforts against us", idea. We quit getting players out of Memphis BEFORE Calipari got there. That pipeline dried up while Nolan was still coaching. Wasn't the last kid we got from there that Marlon Townes kid, who ended up transferring after he and Reid got busted smoking pot? Out recruiting us would be the last thing Calipari has to concern himself about.

Not to mention that if Calipari did this for that reason, Broyles would use every connection and favor he had to bury him.  There's no way Calipari would survive that.  There's no way a non-major program could survive it.

I am not sure that Broyles is in any position to destroy any program except one.

[U.P. HOGG]

Just trying to use us big dummies as leverage for more money from Memphis.

Memphis is not Texas A&M.  The money leverage argument does not apply as much to them.  If we got in a bidding war with A&M we lose.  If we got in a bidding war with Memphis, we win.

Wrong...talk facts, not opinions.  Memphis can and will go north of $3MM if they have to in order to keep Cal.  That is a fact...

You sir, are a moron.  They would NEVER, I repeat never go above 3 million.  Showing your true Memphis education.  BWHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!