Basketball Recruiting

[NLRHog92]

I don't like where we're sitting currently. Hopefully we can reel in some good players this late in the game, but it's going to be tough!

[TexArkHogFan]

Oh ye of little faith.  We are hot on the trail of a couple of pretty good prospects.  Give it time and have a little patience.   I predict we will fill all three open slots with good quality players.

[geauxhogwilde]

It's hard to imagine why we don't all jump on the "we need to over-sign" bus.  After all, this year's national champs proved that it is absolutely essential.........   

[HawgAdvocate]

Malik Newman is supposed to announce today. He's an elite, 5* SG in the 2015 class from MS. It's down to UK, Mississippi St., or possibly LSU.

This is important only because his freshman year, should he go to UK, could impact Malik Monk's choice for 2016.

[lefty08]

Malik Newman is supposed to announce today. He's an elite, 5* SG in the 2015 class from MS. It's down to UK, Mississippi St., or possibly LSU.

This is important only because his freshman year, should he go to UK, could impact Malik Monk's choice for 2016.

How so?

[HawgAdvocate]

How so?

He's now announcing on Friday. How long will Newman stay at UK, should he go there? If he sticks around another year, like the Harrison kids did, will Malik want to compete with Newman? If Malik does indeed wait until spring '16 to sign, he can certainly wait and see who goes pro early and who stays for another year of college. Think about it.

[lefty08]

He's now announcing on Friday. How long will Newman stay at UK, should he go there? If he sticks around another year, like the Harrison kids did, will Malik want to compete with Newman? If Malik does indeed wait until spring '16 to sign, he can certainly wait and see who goes pro early and who stays for another year of college. Think about it.

I'm thinking about it, I still don't think it has any effect whatsoever.

[HawgAdvocate]

I'm thinking about it, I still don't think it has any effect whatsoever.

Oh well then. It's a possibility you can certainly choose to ignore if ya want. Hopefully Newman chooses UK.

[poloprince]

Malik Newman is supposed to announce today. He's an elite, 5* SG in the 2015 class from MS. It's down to UK, Mississippi St., or possibly LSU.

This is important only because his freshman year, should he go to UK, could impact Malik Monk's choice for 2016.

There's a rumor of him taking another route to the NBA like Mudiay.

[HOGINTENNESSEE]

Oh well then. It's a possibility you can certainly choose to ignore if ya want. Hopefully Newman chooses UK.

I'm for whatever gets Malik here

[lefty08]

Oh well then. It's a possibility you can certainly choose to ignore if ya want. Hopefully Newman chooses UK.

If you think having Newman at UK will sway Malik one bit you haven't been paying attention to what UK has been doing for 6 years


Seriously, where do you pull this stuff out of?

[GoHogs1091]

There is a Kentucky fan who is a big fan of Malik Newman.  Here is what that Kentucky fan posted about Newman over on the Kentucky Rivals board.

That would be me. I'm a huge fan because I saw him against Thon Maker ad Jamal Murray at the Hoopfest and he was unreal. His range is nuts and he rarely missed a shot. He hit a turnaround fadeaway that only Kobe hits. He scored even when double and triple teamed. He hit numerous 3's and also drove and scored at the rim even with Maker being there. He's the best offensive guard I've seen in a decade. He was the best looking player I've ever seen at Hoopfest and that includes Wiggins. He reminds me of a bit more athletic Brandon Knight that's also a little better on offense as well. I think he is a better shooter with more range than Knight also. He did shoot a lot but it was more due to his team not having many good players. He's not the selfish player many make him out to be. He can actually pass very well. We have no go to guy that can take over a game like Knight, Newman would be that guy. That's why next year won't be 2011 without Malik.

41 ZaytovenCat, Today at 2:33 PM

The above post is post #41 in the "Malik Newman announcing decision on Friday" thread that is over on that Kentucky Rivals Rupp Rafters board.

The rest of the SEC may end up dreading next season that Newman decided to go to the SEC instead of going to play for Bill Self and Kansas.

[HawgAdvocate]

If you think having Newman at UK will sway Malik one bit you haven't been paying attention to what UK has been doing for 6 years


Seriously, where do you pull this stuff out of?

I don't deal in absolutes. You should try it sometime. There are plenty of opinions out there besides yours.

[lefty08]

I don't deal in absolutes. You should try it sometime. There are plenty of opinions out there besides yours.

Thanks for the enlightenment

[Pork Twain]

I don't like the mindset of "Let's save a scholarship".  The staff should be trying to put together the best possible team they can this year, and worry about next year's team, when that time comes.  The same way we were thinking let's save a scholarship in 2014 for the 2015 class because we had a decent shot at Kevaughn Allen, King McClure, Jimmy Whitt, and Admon Gilder, we seen how that worked out and we only landed 1 of those guys.  You can't overlook a current class banking on guys from the next class, it's not going to work out.

And then another thing you have to think of these top recruits we're on in 2016 aren't going to be eager to come to a NIT or a team that didn't make the post season, these elite recruits want to go to a school where they can win, especially kids like Monk that's only playing for a year.  So, it's in the staff best interest to get the best talent they can now with the scholarships we have available.

As a rule I am not for saving scholarships, but seeing as we rarely go deep enough into our bench to need that last guy, I would rather we hold on to one and actually have a plan to use it as opposed to just giving it to whatever low hanging fruit is out there.  Too many times we have seen those guys sign, only to move on after the year.

[intelligence]

If you think having Newman at UK will sway Malik one bit you haven't been paying attention to what UK has been doing for 6 years


Seriously, where do you pull this stuff out of?

his ass.

[HawgAdvocate]

I haven't seen it mentioned previously, but Calipari and Dana Altman each had a home visit with Monk on Monday. Coach A had his with Monk on Wednesday.

[HawgAdvocate]

If you think having Newman at UK will sway Malik one bit you haven't been paying attention to what UK has been doing for 6 years

Seriously, where do you pull this stuff out of?

his ass.

Because you didn't comprehend before, now you can:

"Monk, who took an unofficial visit to Kentucky last summer, described his interest in the Wildcats as "very strong" and said sending seven more players to this year's NBA Draft is a major selling point.

"They send at least two to the draft every year so that has a big impact."

He also has several factors that will play a role during his decision-making process.

"Good coaching staff, good teammates, coaches that push me on and off the court, who's coming back, who's staying," Monk said."

http://kentucky.247sports.com/Bolt/Monks-interest-in-Kentucky-very-strong-36981382

[Pigsfeat]

The players that Kentucky sends to the NBA would have made it to the NBA wherever they went to college. It is not because they went to Kentucky or coach Cal...they are normally the best players coming out of H.S. I'm so sick of all these kids thinking that coach Cal has some kind of magic wand for getting kids to the next level!

[The Hogfather]

The players that Kentucky sends to the NBA would have made it to the NBA wherever they went to college. It is not because they went to Kentucky or coach Cal...they are normally the best players coming out of H.S. I'm so sick of all these kids thinking that coach Cal has some kind of magic wand for getting kids to the next level!

THIS!  I was about to reply with this exact thing.

[HawgAdvocate]

THIS!  I was about to reply with this exact thing.

True in many (possibly most) cases. Unfortunately though, it doesn't matter what any of us think. 

[870hogfan]

True in many (possibly most) cases. Unfortunately though, it doesn't matter what any of us think.

No it's true period.  Cal doesn't help them as much people think...

[Hogberry Snortcake]

Thanks for the enlightenment

Wow.  Thanks HA.  Are you Bacon, Locke, or Descartes?  Has to be Bacon on Hogville, right?   

[FBREW000]

http://arkansas.247sports.com/Bolt/Arkansas-hoops-target-receives-good-news-off-the-court-36988641

Dixson got a 20 on ACT which is good news.  He will be here the following  weekend after an all star game.  WPS

[intelligence]

Because you didn't comprehend before, now you can:

http://kentucky.247sports.com/Bolt/Monks-interest-in-Kentucky-very-strong-36981382

If you watch the actual interview when they ask him who his favorite schools are the first word out of his mouth is "Arkansas!" with a smile, followed by a scrambled last second "and Kentucky and Baylor you know.." Reporters were taking alot of his statements out of context throughout the entire interview.

[ArkansasI]

Malik should commit to the Hogs right now. Give Mike some momentum recruiting next year... Help the team that holds his heart.

If our staff can't build the 2016 recruiting class around a committed Malik Monk, then I'll be no less pissed if he makes an 11th hour change than if he picks another school to begin with.

[nwahogfan1]

The players that Kentucky sends to the NBA would have made it to the NBA wherever they went to college. It is not because they went to Kentucky or coach Cal...they are normally the best players coming out of H.S. I'm so sick of all these kids thinking that coach Cal has some kind of magic wand for getting kids to the next level!

I agree with you Brother.  Give me the top 10 best players in the US and I bet I could them to the NBA.  My goodness.  But what ever Calipari is selling though it must be good because he sure is getting them to like it.

[nwahogfan1]

Malik should commit to the Hogs right now. Give Mike some momentum recruiting next year... Help the team that holds his heart.

If our staff can't build the 2016 recruiting class around a committed Malik Monk, then I'll be no less pissed if he makes an 11th hour change than if he picks another school to begin with.

I agree with you.  If Malik would commit early then he could help us sign a few more of his high caliper.

[intelligence]

I agree with you Brother.  Give me the top 10 best players in the US and I bet I could them to the NBA.  My goodness.  But what ever Calipari is selling though it must be good because he sure is getting them to like it.

Calipari is buying, not selling.

[greenie]

The players that Kentucky sends to the NBA would have made it to the NBA wherever they went to college. It is not because they went to Kentucky or coach Cal...they are normally the best players coming out of H.S. I'm so sick of all these kids thinking that coach Cal has some kind of magic wand for getting kids to the next level!

Thank you.  This is exactly correct, but unfortunately, Cal's numbers to the NBA is a great marketing tool for Kentucky.

[Kevin]

Another marketing tool is most of his players never see the inside of a class room.  They take their classes online. 

[HawgAdvocate]

If you watch the actual interview when they ask him who his favorite schools are the first word out of his mouth is "Arkansas!" with a smile, followed by a scrambled last second "and Kentucky and Baylor you know.." Reporters were taking alot of his statements out of context throughout the entire interview.

You are referencing an interview given to Jeff Drummond from AllWildcats.com (Scout.com).

My article I've linked, and the quotes I've provided, were provided to Chris Fisher at CatsPause.com (247 website).

Your context is flawed in this instance.

[pfrg999]

Calipari is buying, not selling.

Exactly...... But if Push comes to shove I am sure we have enough Hogvillians with college Eligibility left to fill the open roster spots.... 

[870hogfan]

You are referencing an interview given to Jeff Drummond from AllWildcats.com (Scout.com).

My article I've linked, and the quotes I've provided, were provided to Chris Fisher at CatsPause.com (247 website).

Your context is flawed in this instance.

Your boy Pel going to be out of a job soon or is he going to follow Billy to OKC?

[greenie]

Another marketing tool is most of his players never see the inside of a class room.  They take their classes online.

Wow, is this true?  Would make it pretty easy to have someone else do the work.

[The Recruiting Guy]

http://arkansas.247sports.com/Bolt/Arkansas-hoops-target-receives-good-news-off-the-court-36988641

Dixson got a 20 on ACT which is good news.  He will be here the following  weekend after an all star game.  WPS

FWIW,

I've mentioned in the past the interest level on Arkansas' part might not be what it appears. It isn't a slam dunk he visits next weekend

[Swinesong1]

FWIW,

I've mentioned in the past the interest level on Arkansas' part might now be what it appears. It isn't a slam dunk he visits next weekend

Did you mean "not" instead of "now"?

[The Recruiting Guy]

Did you mean "not" instead of "now"?

Yes. Just changed.

[Swinesong1]

Yes. Just changed.

Does that mean they feel good about other possible signee(s)?

[Hogberry Snortcake]

Yes. Just changed.

I"m choosing to believe this means they think they have good or better options.

[hogville38]

I don't deal in absolutes. You should try it sometime. There are plenty of opinions out there besides yours.

That's just lefty. Just ignore him....lol

[hogville38]

Another marketing tool is most of his players never see the inside of a class room.  They take their classes online.

Man I hate Kentucky and how they run their program. It's like half these kids think the only way to the NBA is through slimball Cal. Why don't these kids realize if they are good enough to go, then they can go pro with other teams as well.

[hogville38]

Can you imagine how ugly it will get if Monk chooses Kentucky? We though it was bad when KJ left. Possible riot situation in Arkansas? 

[yraciv]

So is Kevaughn going to get a release when Donovan leaves for OKC? We still have room.....Yeah I went there, although the hope is slim.

[rzrbackramsfan]

If Donovan goes to okc, I don't see why the hope is slim of him coming here. i mean, he committed to Florida because of Donovan 100%, no?

[TomBigBeeHog]

If Donovan goes to okc, I don't see why the hope is slim of him coming here. i mean, he committed to Florida because of Donovan 100%, no?

He hate Anton. Old news on HV.

[Hawg Red]

The hope is slim because many believe KeVaughn never wanted to play for Arkansas. The thought is he would pick another school if he sought a release, which we do not know if he will do.

[ricepig]

He hate Anton. Old news on HV.

Yet, some can't let it go.

[HOGINTENNESSEE]

The hope is slim because many believe KeVaughn never wanted to play for Arkansas. The thought is he would pick another school if he sought a release, which we do not know if he will do.

On the positive side KA could go to Kansas and remove their interest in Outlaw

[The_Iceman]

On the positive side KA could go to Kansas and remove their interest in Outlaw

That wouldn't be a bad move for KA. Self would do a good job developing him over 4 years. I don't think Self does to well with the one-and-done types.