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Buff

Quote from: MuskogeeHogFan on July 21, 2017, 09:35:13 pm
With Petrino's record of dismissal at Arkansas? You are dreaming.

Is it really a record if he was only dismissed once?  Being hired once and dismissed once is still breaking even..... Asking for a friend.

Pig in the Pokey

Quote from: MuskogeeHogFan on July 21, 2017, 07:22:21 pm
You may be right, but a lot of those Louisiana players loved ol Lester. He might raid Louisiana, especially if Orgeron doesn't produce to expectations. If I were Ole Miss, I'd take a chance on the Mad Hatter.
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HiggiePiggy

Quote from: PorkSoda on July 21, 2017, 09:47:42 pm
dont under estimate OMs will to win or BPs will to make lots of money.

I doubt OM has any intention of stopping their cheating ways, they are just going to hire a better cheater.

He is already making almost 4 mil a year.  I don't see him leaving for a school that is looking at rebuilding very soon. 
If a man speaks and no woman is around to hear him, is he still wrong?

Sivad

Bobby Petrino had one girlfriend.
Bobby Petrino didn't violate NCAA rules and get us in sanction trouble.

Hugh Freeze was illegally hiring multiple hookers.
Hugh Freeze was a sanctimonious sham throwing the Bible at us non-stop.
Hugh Freeze crippled his program with multiple flagrant major NCAA violations.

The two are not even comparable.

Pig in the Pokey

Quote from: Sivad on July 21, 2017, 09:56:54 pm
Bobby Petrino had one girlfriend.
Bobby Petrino didn't violate NCAA rules and get us in sanction trouble.

Hugh Freeze was illegally hiring multiple hookers.
Hugh Freeze was a sanctimonious sham throwing the Bible at us non-stop.
Hugh Freeze crippled his program with multiple flagrant major NCAA violations.

The two are not even comparable.
they aren't even close. it's 3 times worse before the ncaa allegations are even thrown in. And if the bookie rumors and the PIMPING rumors are true, well.... we are at Briles, almost Paterno levels, of shame. He is already WAY past Petrino and Pitino.

The obvious lessons here are 1) Get a burner 2)never hire a guy with a name that begins with a P and ends with an "no". 3) Houston Nutt is a Trojan Horse 4) Fight Beavers with Beaver
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Porked Tongue

Quote from: Sivad on July 21, 2017, 09:56:54 pm
Bobby Petrino had one girlfriend.
Just to be accurate, this is not correct.  Trust me.  It's more.

Stephen Greene


AirWarren

Quote from: MuskogeeHogFan on July 21, 2017, 09:35:13 pm
Petrino? Haaaa! That ain't happening after the dismissal of Freeze for the reasons that he was dismissed. With Petrino's record of dismissal at Arkansas? You are dreaming.

Ole miss is a team that yearns to be like Alabama. They share the same need to be a true deep south power unlike northern teams like Arkansas, Mizzou. Ole miss would love to be a traditional power like a LSU, BAMA, UGA, or Florida. No matter the cost. It has been proven. They may not hire him, but don't think it's not on his mind or the OM leaders to give him a ring. Especially with what BP did at Midwest team like Arkansas.

Jimbob111

Quote from: Porked Tongue on July 21, 2017, 10:51:46 pm
Just to be accurate, this is not correct.  Trust me.  It's more.

BUT...they never connected him to hookers because BP knew high-end hookers with high-end lawyers in Nashville.
"DO NOT POST IN THE GAME THREAD ANYMORE TODAY OR YOU WILL RECIEVE A 30 BAN!"--

Multiple play-by-play posters followed by "Good job, D" and "Way to go, Offense" is so interesting to read over and over as the team gets blown out and the coaches flounder. I can't figure out why game threads don't have 60 to 80 pages now.

Am I the only one that misses the old, interesting game threads?

Jimbob111

Quote from: Jimbob111 on July 21, 2017, 11:23:33 pm
BUT...they never connected him to hookers because BP knew high-end hookers with high-end lawyers in Nashville.
Quote from: AP85 on July 21, 2017, 11:16:17 pm
Ole miss is a team that yearns to be like Alabama. They share the same need to be a true deep south power unlike northern teams like Arkansas, Mizzou. Ole miss would love to be a traditional power like a LSU, BAMA, UGA, or Florida. No matter the cost. It has been proven. They may not hire him, but don't think it's not on his mind or the OM leaders to give him a ring. Especially with what BP did at Midwest team like Arkansas.

Uh, Mississippi is as northern as Arkansas...for the most part. Half of MS rides side-by-side with Arkansas. Drive much?
"DO NOT POST IN THE GAME THREAD ANYMORE TODAY OR YOU WILL RECIEVE A 30 BAN!"--

Multiple play-by-play posters followed by "Good job, D" and "Way to go, Offense" is so interesting to read over and over as the team gets blown out and the coaches flounder. I can't figure out why game threads don't have 60 to 80 pages now.

Am I the only one that misses the old, interesting game threads?

thebignasty

Quote from: AP85 on July 21, 2017, 11:16:17 pm
Ole miss is a team that yearns to be like Alabama. They share the same need to be a true deep south power unlike northern teams like Arkansas, Mizzou. Ole miss would love to be a traditional power like a LSU, BAMA, UGA, or Florida. No matter the cost. It has been proven. They may not hire him, but don't think it's not on his mind or the OM leaders to give him a ring. Especially with what BP did at Midwest team like Arkansas.

Lol what a load of crock

AirWarren

Quote from: Jimbob111 on July 21, 2017, 11:26:12 pm

Uh, Mississippi is as northern as Arkansas...for the most part. Half of MS rides side-by-side with Arkansas. Drive much?

No it's not. I grew up in SEARK. None of nwa people know anything about deep south. Mississippi is the face of the deep south along with LA, AL, and GA.

 

KlubhouseKonnected

Quote from: bennyl08 on July 21, 2017, 08:44:37 pm
Face huggers are really just aliens of affection.

You just got the distinctly rare literal "lol"

I tip my cap to you sir
If Auburn is dirty so is Gus. You can't have it both ways. Deal with it.

KlubhouseKonnected

Quote from: PorkSoda on July 21, 2017, 09:47:42 pm
dont under estimate OMs will to win or BPs will to make lots of money.

I doubt OM has any intention of stopping their cheating ways, they are just going to hire a better cheater.

If Bobby was a better cheater..:

We got but razed
If Auburn is dirty so is Gus. You can't have it both ways. Deal with it.

KlubhouseKonnected

Quote from: Porked Tongue on July 21, 2017, 10:51:46 pm
Just to be accurate, this is not correct.  Trust me.  It's more.

Can confirm
If Auburn is dirty so is Gus. You can't have it both ways. Deal with it.

Farmer Hogget

Quote from: cosmodrum on July 20, 2017, 07:52:05 pm
Another upright Christian man revealed to be wholly FOS.

For those of you who are so quick to judge this man, please, in your infinite wisdom of what constitutes a Christian, share with me where, exactly, it says in Scripture that a Christian is a perfect person?  Because I've attended church my entire life and I've never seen that any where.  In fact, as I recall, Scripture tells us that we ALL have sinned and fall short of the Glory of God.  I believe that includes Hugh Freeze.  AND, the really remarkable thing here is that, while his sin has cost him his job, it does not cost him his Salvation and God has already forgiven him. 

Farmer Hogget

Quote from: AlmaHog2011 on July 20, 2017, 08:06:42 pm
Amen! And neither are these other guys. I am a work in progress and am a Christian and far from perfect. The attacks against Christianity are not warranted.
Freeze can be forgiven but he has to ask for it.

Your Bible must read differently than mine.  God has already forgiven all of us.  We don't have to ask for it.  It's a gift that has been freely given.  We just have to accept it.

Farmer Hogget


Augustus

Quote from: AP85 on July 21, 2017, 11:00:23 am
Wasn't the same thing said when Saban left lsu for bama?

Meyer to Ohio state?

Maybe so...

The obvious difference being that neither Saban nor Meyer resigned because of "calls to an escort service (and God only knows what else)"

When LSU fans talk about Saban, or Florida fans talk about Meyer... it's just a bunch of butthurt fans.

When people talk about Hugh Freeze, there's a "there" there. ...wait

Inhogswetrust

Quote from: AP85 on July 21, 2017, 11:33:05 pm
No it's not. I grew up in SEARK. None of nwa people know anything about deep south. Mississippi is the face of the deep south along with LA, AL, and GA.

Posts like yours could be one reason people laugh at SEA...........................
If I'm going to cheer players and coaches in victory, I damn sure ought to be man enough to stand with them in defeat.

"Why some people are so drawn to the irrational is something that has always puzzled me" - James Randi

Inhogswetrust

Quote from: Farmer Hogget on July 22, 2017, 01:54:48 am
For those of you who are so quick to judge this man, please, in your infinite wisdom of what constitutes a Christian, share with me where, exactly, it says in Scripture that a Christian is a perfect person?  Because I've attended church my entire life and I've never seen that any where.  In fact, as I recall, Scripture tells us that we ALL have sinned and fall short of the Glory of God.  I believe that includes Hugh Freeze.  AND, the really remarkable thing here is that, while his sin has cost him his job, it does not cost him his Salvation and God has already forgiven him. 

Even if there is a God as an imperfect human you don't know that God has already forgiven him simply because Freeze goes around "claiming" to be Christian and you believe him. He just as easily could be a sheep in wolves clothing and you are blinded by his words.
If I'm going to cheer players and coaches in victory, I damn sure ought to be man enough to stand with them in defeat.

"Why some people are so drawn to the irrational is something that has always puzzled me" - James Randi

Inhogswetrust

Quote from: Jimbob111 on July 21, 2017, 11:26:12 pm

Uh, Mississippi is as northern as Arkansas...for the most part. Half of MS rides side-by-side with Arkansas. Drive much?

A part of being "old south" or southern is as much about the people and sociology culture as it is geography. There are places all over the geographic "old south" that have very little resemblence to "southern" now and it has little to do with where the people living there are originally from.
If I'm going to cheer players and coaches in victory, I damn sure ought to be man enough to stand with them in defeat.

"Why some people are so drawn to the irrational is something that has always puzzled me" - James Randi

Inhogswetrust

Quote from: Farmer Hogget on July 22, 2017, 01:58:56 am
Your Bible must read differently than mine.  God has already forgiven all of us.  We don't have to ask for it.  It's a gift that has been freely given.  We just have to accept it.

Just because some one professes acceptance doesn't make them a truth teller.
If I'm going to cheer players and coaches in victory, I damn sure ought to be man enough to stand with them in defeat.

"Why some people are so drawn to the irrational is something that has always puzzled me" - James Randi

 

The real Hogules

Quote from: Inhogswetrust on July 22, 2017, 04:46:27 am
Even if there is a God as an imperfect human you don't know that God has already forgiven him simply because Freeze goes around "claiming" to be Christian and you believe him. He just as easily could be a sheep in wolves clothing and you are blinded by his words.

Don't you mean a wolf in sheep's clothing? Because if H.F. were a sheep in wolves clothing, that'd mean a whole different thing.
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Steef

Quote from: Farmer Hogget on July 22, 2017, 01:58:56 am
Your Bible must read differently than mine.  God has already forgiven all of us.  We don't have to ask for it.  It's a gift that has been freely given.  We just have to accept it.

Apparently, your bible left out Matt 7:21-23.

ricepig

Quote from: thebignasty on July 21, 2017, 11:26:22 pm
Lol what a load of crock

He's not real good at trolling, but you have to admire his propensity to continue to try.

AirWarren

Quote from: ricepig on July 22, 2017, 06:26:42 am
He's not real good at trolling, but you have to admire his propensity to continue to try.

Obviously I am. I got you to respond. And you're king red shade homer.

AirWarren

Quote from: Inhogswetrust on July 22, 2017, 04:42:21 am
Posts like yours could be one reason people laugh at SEA...........................

And you're much better?

southeasthog

Louisville ain't letting Petrino go. They will bump his pay if Ole Miss comes calling.

southeasthog

Quote from: Inhogswetrust on July 22, 2017, 04:42:21 am
Posts like yours could be one reason people laugh at SEA...........................

We don't always liked to be lumped together. Some of us like NW Arkansas.

MuskogeeHogFan

Quote from: AP85 on July 21, 2017, 11:16:17 pm
Ole miss is a team that yearns to be like Alabama. They share the same need to be a true deep south power unlike northern teams like Arkansas, Mizzou. Ole miss would love to be a traditional power like a LSU, BAMA, UGA, or Florida. No matter the cost. It has been proven. They may not hire him, but don't think it's not on his mind or the OM leaders to give him a ring. Especially with what BP did at Midwest team like Arkansas.

Midwest? Wow! I'm surprised that I need to provide this reference in geography to anyone on this board, but I am always pleased to help out when I can.

The U.S. Census Bureau identifies 16 states as part of the American South, and these states are divided into three smaller regions. The South Atlantic includes Florida, Georgia, Maryland, North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia, West Virginia and Delaware. The East South Central region is composed of Alabama, Kentucky, Mississippi and Tennessee. The West South Central region includes Arkansas, Louisiana, Oklahoma and Texas.

https://www.reference.com/geography/list-southern-states-d471cfcdbb8f9c5e
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Mike_e

Quote from: Farmer Hogget on July 22, 2017, 01:54:48 am
For those of you who are so quick to judge this man, please, in your infinite wisdom of what constitutes a Christian, share with me where, exactly, it says in Scripture that a Christian is a perfect person?  Because I've attended church my entire life and I've never seen that any where.  In fact, as I recall, Scripture tells us that we ALL have sinned and fall short of the Glory of God.  I believe that includes Hugh Freeze.  AND, the really remarkable thing here is that, while his sin has cost him his job, it does not cost him his Salvation and God has already forgiven him.

Not a perfect person but you are supposed to act the part as best you can.  Romans is a good place to start looking for this.

The thing that hangs most people up is that you aren't really supposed to Quote Scripture, you are supposed to Live Scripture.  Untold numbers of people have turned away from Christ because we have gotten this wrong.
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GuvHog

Quote from: southeasthog on July 22, 2017, 06:55:03 am
Louisville ain't letting Petrino go. They will bump his pay if Ole Miss comes calling.

They don't even have to do that. Ole Miss can't financially afford to pay the 11 million dollar buyout it would take to get Petrino. They can get Les Miles without a buyout so that makes him a far more likely target than Petrino.
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Mike_e

Quote from: GuvHog on July 22, 2017, 07:24:08 am
They don't even have to do that. Ole Miss can't financially afford to pay the 11 million dollar buyout it would take to get Petrino. They can get Les Miles without a buyout so that makes him a far more likely target than Petrino.

Some of their fans are so crazed with their recent success in recruiting (I know, I know) that they won't be appeased by someone that LSU let go.  Although he'd do a good job for them down there.

I've even heard that they're trying to get Archie Manning  to come in for a couple of years.  Sheesh.
The best "one thing" for a happy life?
Just be the best person that you can manage.  Right Now!

King Kong

Quote from: AP85 on July 21, 2017, 09:31:41 pm
Petrino, Miles, venables, Blake Anderson, Scott frost, and coach at Memphis.

Front runners.

Petrino is definitely not an option have you seen his buyout? Not to mention his

Venables has been very patient with his selection. I doubt this dumpest fire interests him.

The other 3 you mentioned are likely candidates

King Kong

Quote from: AP85 on July 21, 2017, 11:00:23 am
Wasn't the same thing said when Saban left lsu for bama?

Meyer to Ohio state?

No. Plus Saban left LSU for the Miami Dolphins

There was a rumor that Carroll had a younger gf at USC

sowmonella

Quote from: AP85 on July 21, 2017, 11:33:05 pm
No it's not. I grew up in SEARK. None of nwa people know anything about deep south. Mississippi is the face of the deep south along with LA, AL, and GA.

Um..are you sure you grew up?
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GuvHog

Quote from: Mike_e on July 22, 2017, 07:35:55 am
Some of their fans are so crazed with their recent success in recruiting (I know, I know) that they won't be appeased by someone that LSU let go.  Although he'd do a good job for them down there.

I've even heard that they're trying to get Archie Manning  to come in for a couple of years.  Sheesh.

Because of the NCAA investigation and the possible heavy sanctions hanging over their heads, Interest in the Ole Miss HC job will be severely limited. Of those coaches they have a shot at getting, Miles could very well be the best choice.

They won't get Archie but I wouldn't be at all surprised if they take a shot at Hiring Peyton Manning since he's retired from the NFL.
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southeasthog

Quote from: King Kong on July 22, 2017, 07:42:16 am
No. Plus Saban left LSU for the Miami Dolphins

There was a rumor that Carroll had a younger gf at USC
Plus Myer didn't go straight from Florida to Ohio State. He was "burned out" and had to take time off from football. Cough, Coed, Cough, Cough.

MuskogeeHogFan

Quote from: GuvHog on July 22, 2017, 08:07:19 am
Because of the NCAA investigation and the possible heavy sanctions hanging over their heads, Interest in the Ole Miss HC job will be severely limited. Of those coaches they have a shot at getting, Miles could very well be the best choice.

They won't get Archie but I wouldn't be at all surprised if they take a shot at Hiring Peyton Manning since he's retired from the NFL.

Somehow I doubt Peyton Manning would enter the coaching field just to help Ole Miss. He makes a ton of money just being Peyton Manning.

This is actually a pretty good opportunity for someone depending upon how severe the penalties wind up being. If the NCAA takes scholarships away from them for a couple of years as well as other sanctions yet to be named, I think that they will give a new coach 5 years to bring the program back and that is a nice opportunity for someone. Nowhere to go but up and most of the shortfalls in production can be blamed on the NCAA penalties and the bad press from the HDN/Freeze mess.
Go Hogs Go!

hobhog

Quote from: MuskogeeHogFan on July 22, 2017, 08:23:51 am
Somehow I doubt Peyton Manning would enter the coaching field just to help Ole Miss. He makes a ton of money just being Peyton Manning.

This is actually a pretty good opportunity for someone depending upon how severe the penalties wind up being. If the NCAA takes scholarships away from them for a couple of years as well as other sanctions yet to be named, I think that they will give a new coach 5 years to bring the program back and that is a nice opportunity for someone. Nowhere to go but up and most of the shortfalls in production can be blamed on the NCAA penalties and the bad press from the HDN/Freeze mess.

But there are better jobs out there, and other like jobs without the baggage. Next coach will be a stabilizer, not the next regime.

rljjr

Quote from: Pig in the Pokey on July 21, 2017, 10:05:33 pm
they aren't even close. it's 3 times worse before the ncaa allegations are even thrown in. And if the bookie rumors and the PIMPING rumors are true, well.... we are at Briles, almost Paterno levels, of shame. He is already WAY past Petrino and Pitino.

The obvious lessons here are 1) Get a burner 2)never hire a guy with a name that begins with a P and ends with an "no". 3) Houston Nutt is a Trojan Horse 4) Fight Beavers with Beaver


Can you elaborate on the pimping and bookie rumors? Genuinely curious. Are you talking about HF? I haven't heard these.

ricepig

Quote from: AP85 on July 22, 2017, 06:48:13 am
Obviously I am. I got you to respond. And you're king red shade homer.

Why yes, I'm pro Arkansas Razorback, sorry if that offends you.

birmingHAMette

Neil McCready,Ole Miss sports writer, said on his podcast Thursday night that Charlie Strong,the Troy coach,and......Lane Kiffin were
all names to come up for the job. He said since they didn't have to pay Freeze off they had money.  It seems Ole Miss would want to stay away from anyone with even a hint of scandal associated with them. Most likely they would have had enough of the limelight in that regard. Can't see them taking Briles or going after Bobby with their baggage. However, they may be in the redemption business.
Go Hogs

MuskogeeHogFan

Quote from: hobhog on July 22, 2017, 09:10:07 am
But there are better jobs out there, and other like jobs without the baggage. Next coach will be a stabilizer, not the next regime.

True, but my point was that the next HC (aside from the Interim) is going to be given every benefit of the doubt for quite a while given what they are inheriting and the Administration and Boosters will be "all hands on deck" to give that coach whatever he needs to be successful. And, should he pull a rabbit out of his hat during a time that could only be considered, difficult circumstances, while reforming the program, he could very well find himself getting an earlier than expected extension. Taking over a program that has had a lot of success where everything is running properly is a greater danger and a more difficult job than this situation will be for the next guy in charge. I see this as a great opportunity for the longer term.
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Stephen Greene

July 22, 2017, 09:45:15 am #446 Last Edit: July 22, 2017, 10:10:43 am by Stephen Greene
Quote from: AP85 on July 21, 2017, 11:33:05 pm
No it's not. I grew up in SEARK. None of nwa people know anything about deep south. Mississippi is the face of the deep south along with LA, AL, and GA.


GuvHog

Quote from: MuskogeeHogFan on July 22, 2017, 08:23:51 am
Somehow I doubt Peyton Manning would enter the coaching field just to help Ole Miss. He makes a ton of money just being Peyton Manning.

This is actually a pretty good opportunity for someone depending upon how severe the penalties wind up being. If the NCAA takes scholarships away from them for a couple of years as well as other sanctions yet to be named, I think that they will give a new coach 5 years to bring the program back and that is a nice opportunity for someone. Nowhere to go but up and most of the shortfalls in production can be blamed on the NCAA penalties and the bad press from the HDN/Freeze mess.

Peyton loves and adores Archie and Archie can be very persuasive. I wouldn't be surprised if Archie asks him to strongly consider it.
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Porked Tongue


Inhogswetrust

Quote from: The real Hogules on July 22, 2017, 05:52:19 am
Don't you mean a wolf in sheep's clothing? Because if H.F. were a sheep in wolves clothing, that'd mean a whole different thing.

Haha! good catch. Getting the saying wrong just proves my imperfections!
If I'm going to cheer players and coaches in victory, I damn sure ought to be man enough to stand with them in defeat.

"Why some people are so drawn to the irrational is something that has always puzzled me" - James Randi