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RealHog

June 25, 2016, 04:11:01 am Last Edit: June 27, 2016, 05:19:32 pm by RealHog
Found this guys, through Hogstats.com, and thought you might like to see the newest Hogs on the roster, with their listed Heights, weights, and numbers.

http://www.arkansasrazorbacks.com/sport/m-baskbl/roster/

Things I noted
- Manny Watkins can now be a backup LBer for the football team if need be at 6-3 222lbs! I hope that's muscle.
- Adrio was indeed 6-6, nearly identical body type to Michael Qualls
-Arlando Cook measured only 6-7 206 lbs. He wont be the biggest PF we have ever had, but here's to his skills and athleticism making up the difference.
-Lastly, CJ Jones need to eat whatever Watkins has been having, 6-5 166 lbs! That's lighter then Glasper at 5-10. Shaun Livington (6-7 175) is the only player I can think of who is that thin at a guard spot, but he turned out, so who knows. Go Hogs!

What are your guys thoughts, and what did y'all notice?

EDIT: Apparently Cook and Thomas both grew an inch over the weekend. Both listed at 6-8 now. Maybe they found a Mario mushroom.

The_Iceman

Remember that guy on here who kept bashing anyone who didn't insist that Arlando Cook was 6'9"? Lol, I wonder if he'll still say that.

 

hogwood

I was really hoping Barford was actually 6'5".

HogBreath

We'll just need to be patient and give Coach a few years to get his players in here. 
I said...LSU has often been an overrated team.

That ignoramus Draconian Sanctions said..if we're overrated, why are we ranked higher than you are?

OnTheHillHogFan

Manny played at that weight last year. He gained so much weight from his freshman to sophomore season that he couldn't dunk anymore.
Quote from: JaketheSnake on November 07, 2012, 10:28:17 am
Shoot the Obama deer... the ones that come for the free corn.
Quote from: ReddieHawg on November 06, 2013, 09:38:24 am
Do you happen to have any rapping skills? I think we could set you up with DJ Khaled and you could make a song entitled, "All I Do Is Bitch"

poloprince

Easily this is the best offensive team MA has had, if they can come together defensively they will be tough to deal with.  :razorback:
$PoLoPrInCe$

HOGINTENNESSEE

Quote from: HogBreath on June 25, 2016, 07:38:27 am
We'll just need to be patient and give Coach a few years to get his players in here. 

Better get your shots in before the season

3kgthog

Quote from: HOGINTENNESSEE on June 25, 2016, 10:14:11 am
Better get your shots in before the season

There will be plenty of opportunities for shots during the season as well, both of the verbal and liquid variety.

Big Nasty 34

Quote from: hogwood on June 25, 2016, 07:32:56 am
I was really hoping Barford was actually 6'5".

Dang, yeah would be nice. Still has a very D1 ready body.

rude1

If Brachen Hazen is indeed 6'8", with his athleticism and if he continues to develop his outside shot, this kid might end of being the sleeper of the class, with the length to shoot over the top and the athleticism to get to the rim as defenders attempt to defend his shot, IMO.

mhuff

June 25, 2016, 02:44:44 pm #10 Last Edit: June 25, 2016, 03:24:58 pm by mhuff
Quote from: rude1 on June 25, 2016, 02:27:41 pm
If Brachen Hazen is indeed 6'8", with his athleticism and if he continues to develop his outside shot, this kid might end of being the sleeper of the class, with the length to shoot over the top and the athleticism to get to the rim as defenders attempt to defend his shot, IMO.

My thinking as well. A lot of our players in recent years have averaged around 40% on 2p shots. I think this kid will shoot  much better. I also look for him to use good shot selection.

hawginbigd1

Quote from: poloprince on June 25, 2016, 09:45:13 am
Easily this is the best offensive team MA has had, if they can come together defensively they will be tough to deal with.  :razorback:
Hope you are correct on the offense, it looks to be good! The defense has been the Achilles heal IMO since MA's return despite HV's focus on offensive limitations!

King Kong

Quote from: 3kgthog on June 25, 2016, 10:30:45 am
There will be plenty of opportunities for shots during the season as well, both of the verbal and liquid variety.

Not for this team. Tourney bound

 

nwahogfan1

Quote from: HogBreath on June 25, 2016, 07:38:27 am
We'll just need to be patient and give Coach a few years to get his players in here. 

LOL.   Good one.  What is this 5 years and counting.   

I am starting to like Coaches recruitment with guards, small forwards and I am really happy Moses returned but goodness we will be small at the 4 spot for a Division 1 school.   But I have always said it is not how tall physically you are but how tall you play so if some of our 6'6+ guys can get on the glass and get us some inside scoring/defense it will not matter their actually size.  We will have to wait and see.

From looking at our players it looks like we will either force others to play fast or we will sink.  We just do not have the size or strength to finish off the elite teams down low.

HogBreath

Quote from: nwahogfan1 on June 25, 2016, 07:11:41 pm
LOL.   Good one.  What is this 5 years and counting.   

I am starting to like Coaches recruitment with guards, small forwards and I am really happy Moses returned but goodness we will be small at the 4 spot for a Division 1 school.   But I have always said it is not how tall physically you are but how tall you play so if some of our 6'6+ guys can get on the glass and get us some inside scoring/defense it will not matter their actually size.  We will have to wait and see.

From looking at our players it looks like we will either force others to play fast or we will sink.  We just do not have the size or strength to finish off the elite teams down low.
Exactly..thank goodness Moses came back.
I said...LSU has often been an overrated team.

That ignoramus Draconian Sanctions said..if we're overrated, why are we ranked higher than you are?

BentonvilleJeff

Trey Thompson is one I want to see keep improving. Showed signs last year he could play at this level. 6'9 265 is a big forward to go with Moses when teams want to bang.

Foshodo

was expecting Cook to be able to come in and play a bit of 4... that height and weight will make it hard.

OnTheHillHogFan

Quote from: Foshodo on June 26, 2016, 02:02:26 am
was expecting Cook to be able to come in and play a bit of 4... that height and weight will make it hard.
He will be fine playing the forward. He should play around 215-220 after he works out with the team this summer
Quote from: JaketheSnake on November 07, 2012, 10:28:17 am
Shoot the Obama deer... the ones that come for the free corn.
Quote from: ReddieHawg on November 06, 2013, 09:38:24 am
Do you happen to have any rapping skills? I think we could set you up with DJ Khaled and you could make a song entitled, "All I Do Is Bitch"

Dudeman

Abstinence is the sincerest form of frustration.

You can't have half holes or partial holes because all holes are whole holes.

psooie

Is RJ Glasper on a full scholarship? will he be his sophomore year? that would only allow 3 new players next year.

Biggus Piggus

Quote from: The_Iceman on June 25, 2016, 06:28:18 am
Remember that guy on here who kept bashing anyone who didn't insist that Arlando Cook was 6'9"? Lol, I wonder if he'll still say that.

He's still a combo forward in body type who plays like a low post player + needs to work on his basketball skills.
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Biggus Piggus

Quote from: HOGINTENNESSEE on June 25, 2016, 10:14:11 am
Better get your shots in before the season

Correct. Don't know why anyone would be whining at this point.
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jjdlc

Quote from: psooie on June 26, 2016, 09:20:12 am
Is RJ Glasper on a full scholarship? will he be his sophomore year? that would only allow 3 new players next year.

No, he is a walk-on.  He might be his sophomore year, if he earns it.  Completely up to Anderson if he gets it or not.


nwahogfan1

Quote from: OnTheHillHogFan on June 26, 2016, 02:44:53 am
He will be fine playing the forward. He should play around 215-220 after he works out with the team this summer
He will fine if he has the skill set to play the 3 but in the SEC he will have a very hard time at the 4 spot posting and banging inside against  guys who weight 40+ lbs more than him.

 

nwahogfan1

Quote from: BentonvilleJeff on June 25, 2016, 11:38:08 pm
Trey Thompson is one I want to see keep improving. Showed signs last year he could play at this level. 6'9 265 is a big forward to go with Moses when teams want to bang.

If Trey goes with Moses who will back up Moses when he needs a break.

OnTheHillHogFan

Quote from: Dudeman on June 26, 2016, 07:07:28 am
Is Hannahs really 6-3?
Yes. Macon is about an inch shorter than Dusty, Manny and Jaylon.
Quote from: JaketheSnake on November 07, 2012, 10:28:17 am
Shoot the Obama deer... the ones that come for the free corn.
Quote from: ReddieHawg on November 06, 2013, 09:38:24 am
Do you happen to have any rapping skills? I think we could set you up with DJ Khaled and you could make a song entitled, "All I Do Is Bitch"

BentonvilleJeff

Quote from: nwahogfan1 on June 26, 2016, 12:53:47 pm
If Trey goes with Moses who will back up Moses when he needs a break.
I don't think they play together much. They should sub for each other. But if we are playing a big and slow team then put them together.

mhuff

Quote from: BentonvilleJeff on June 26, 2016, 02:39:21 pm
I don't think they play together much. They should sub for each other. But if we are playing a big and slow team then put them together.

You only do that if you want to win games instead of getting your brains beat out.

daprospecta

Quote from: OnTheHillHogFan on June 25, 2016, 08:08:35 am
Manny played at that weight last year. He gained so much weight from his freshman to sophomore season that he couldn't dunk anymore.
This can't be true. My freshman year on the hill, I ballooned to 330 and while I'm an inch taller(6'4) I was able to do a simple one hand slam.

RealHog

Quote from: daprospecta on June 27, 2016, 12:07:01 am
This can't be true. My freshman year on the hill, I ballooned to 330 and while I'm an inch taller(6'4) I was able to do a simple one hand slam.

I would love to have seen that haha. That would require enormous quick twitch muscle strength to dunk at 6-4 330. Seeing you at sub 220 you would have been grabbing dollar bills off the top of the backboard.

RealHog

They changed/added an inch to the heights of Cook and Thomas. Interesting.

OnTheHillHogFan

Quote from: daprospecta on June 27, 2016, 12:07:01 am
This can't be true. My freshman year on the hill, I ballooned to 330 and while I'm an inch taller(6'4) I was able to do a simple one hand slam.
That is what several people on the staff and players told me.
Quote from: JaketheSnake on November 07, 2012, 10:28:17 am
Shoot the Obama deer... the ones that come for the free corn.
Quote from: ReddieHawg on November 06, 2013, 09:38:24 am
Do you happen to have any rapping skills? I think we could set you up with DJ Khaled and you could make a song entitled, "All I Do Is Bitch"

ShadowHawg

Quote from: mhuff on June 26, 2016, 04:18:47 pm
You only do that if you want to win games instead of getting your brains beat out.

Depends on the matchups. I guess you think the Warriors were stupid for using their "small" lineup most of the season also?

UAfanatic

Quote from: Dudeman on June 26, 2016, 07:07:28 am
Is Hannahs really 6-3?

Is he really 210? just 12 pounds shy of Manny?

poloprince

Quote from: RealHog on June 27, 2016, 06:54:26 pm
They changed/added an inch to the heights of Cook and Thomas. Interesting.

New Nike's are nice  ;)
$PoLoPrInCe$

daprospecta

Quote from: RealHog on June 27, 2016, 11:00:57 am
I would love to have seen that haha. That would require enormous quick twitch muscle strength to dunk at 6-4 330. Seeing you at sub 220 you would have been grabbing dollar bills off the top of the backboard.
I wasn't half the athlete Jason Peters was.  My freshman year, I hated having to go against JP and Shawn Andrews every day because they were so quick and strong.  Jason Peters could windmill vertically.  No jump step but straight up and down. He was 300+ lbs easy.

RealHog

Quote from: daprospecta on June 28, 2016, 07:05:36 pm
I wasn't half the athlete Jason Peters was.  My freshman year, I hated having to go against JP and Shawn Andrews every day because they were so quick and strong.  Jason Peters could windmill vertically.  No jump step but straight up and down. He was 300+ lbs easy.

As hard as that is believe, I believe you. That's why they both made millions as an All Pro offensive linemen. They call LTs dancing bears for a reasons. Guys that big shouldn't be able to move like that.

Biggus Piggus

So I guess we have

Post - Kingsley and Thompson
Stretch 4 - Bailey, Cook, Hazen, Thomas (who knows who starts)
Wing guards - Barford, Hannahs, Jones, Macon, Watkins
Point guards - Barford, Beard, Glasper
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azhog10


RealHog

Quote from: Biggus Piggus on June 29, 2016, 05:03:41 pm
So I guess we have

Post - Kingsley and Thompson
Stretch 4 - Bailey, Cook, Hazen, Thomas (who knows who starts)
Wing guards - Barford, Hannahs, Jones, Macon, Watkins
Point guards - Barford, Beard, Glasper

About right, couple changes though.

Hazen the only guy who you could call a stretch 4 I think, although he is more of a 3 than 4 right now, but he is close to legit 6-8 and is okay on the boards, at least in HS. Being 195 will take some filling out though before he can do much paint damage.
Cook and Thomas - tweeners between 3 and 4. Worried they may be too stuck in the middle. Not big enough for post, not quick/skilled enough for the 3 spot. Thomas has a mean streak in him and at 225 seems like a sold build.
Bailey - Swingman, athletic, high energy defensive specialist at this point. Def not stretch 4 as he can't really make 3s right now. I am thinking a more post oriented Qualls right now. Hopefully he can get in the gym like Qualls did and learn to be a passable shooter.

On PGs? not many teams have one. I hope our guys can facilitate, Durham did great at passing first, scoring second. For Barford I am thinking a John Wall type. Combo guard sums his up better.




RealHog

Quote from: azhog10 on June 29, 2016, 05:14:50 pm
Now the question is was this Free Throws or 3's?

There we go. Macon and Justice Hill worked out all summer with IJ Ready's dad. Between Macon and Hannahs we have two guys willing to put in the time. Hog Ball is on the way back guys!

benji

Quote from: RealHog on June 25, 2016, 04:11:01 am
-Lastly, CJ Jones need to eat whatever Watkins has been having, 6-5 166 lbs! That's lighter then Glasper at 5-10. Shaun Livington (6-7 175) is the only player I can think of who is that thin at a guard spot, but he turned out, so who knows. Go Hogs!

How much did Ky weigh when he stepped on campus. I can't imagine he was much over a buck fifty five!

Hawg Red

Quote from: benji on June 29, 2016, 08:59:31 pm
How much did Ky weigh when he stepped on campus. I can't imagine he was much over a buck fifty five!

Can't imagine he was much more than that when he left either.

gmarv

threads like this is why I love hogville.

The_Iceman

Quote from: RealHog on June 29, 2016, 05:21:45 pm
About right, couple changes though.

Hazen the only guy who you could call a stretch 4 I think, although he is more of a 3 than 4 right now, but he is close to legit 6-8 and is okay on the boards, at least in HS. Being 195 will take some filling out though before he can do much paint damage.
Cook and Thomas - tweeners between 3 and 4. Worried they may be too stuck in the middle. Not big enough for post, not quick/skilled enough for the 3 spot. Thomas has a mean streak in him and at 225 seems like a sold build.
Bailey - Swingman, athletic, high energy defensive specialist at this point. Def not stretch 4 as he can't really make 3s right now. I am thinking a more post oriented Qualls right now. Hopefully he can get in the gym like Qualls did and learn to be a passable shooter.

On PGs? not many teams have one. I hope our guys can facilitate, Durham did great at passing first, scoring second. For Barford I am thinking a John Wall type. Combo guard sums his up better.

As much as I like to put all the players into positions, I think we all know Mike doesn't really care about traditional position alignments. He just puts lineups on the court and see whats working. Which isn't a bad thing, just look in the NBA playoffs. That type of adjustment won games for many teams (going small, extra rebounder, etc.)

Overtheroadtruckdriver


Biggus Piggus

Quote from: RealHog on June 29, 2016, 05:21:45 pm
About right, couple changes though.

Hazen the only guy who you could call a stretch 4 I think, although he is more of a 3 than 4 right now, but he is close to legit 6-8 and is okay on the boards, at least in HS. Being 195 will take some filling out though before he can do much paint damage.
Cook and Thomas - tweeners between 3 and 4. Worried they may be too stuck in the middle. Not big enough for post, not quick/skilled enough for the 3 spot. Thomas has a mean streak in him and at 225 seems like a sold build.
Bailey - Swingman, athletic, high energy defensive specialist at this point. Def not stretch 4 as he can't really make 3s right now. I am thinking a more post oriented Qualls right now. Hopefully he can get in the gym like Qualls did and learn to be a passable shooter.

On PGs? not many teams have one. I hope our guys can facilitate, Durham did great at passing first, scoring second. For Barford I am thinking a John Wall type. Combo guard sums his up better.


Cook and Bailey are smaller guys who have a low-post playing style. Cook's going to stay that way. He will be a decent power forward against most teams; not tons of size in the game anymore. Bailey will be schooled up a la Qualls. He has different athletic ability. No doubt he will swing between 3-4 regardless of what he can actually do yet. Thomas is a 3-4 type the kind of which MA has employed many times.

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bigdaddyhawg

Quote from: HogBreath on June 25, 2016, 07:38:27 am
We'll just need to be patient and give Coach a few years to get his players in here. 

I understand you're probably being sarcastic, and I understand (and sympathize why) but with his recruiting going to way it's going, this might be the first time one could say that and be on really solid ground.

Still need to produce a good year this year.
Let us then turn this government back into the channel in which the framers of the Constitution originally placed it.  Abraham Lincoln, 1858

The_Iceman

Quote from: OTR on June 30, 2016, 06:04:38 pm
What happened to Dashaun stark?

Will be a good practice body for us. However, he will not see any significant minutes for the Hogs. When I watched him last year in scrimmages, his skill level wasn't much better than Jenkins.