Mike Norvell, Arkansas connections!

[The Hawg Marshal]

I don't care if he had corn rows in college.

[The Hawg Marshal]

Hire Mike!

[Hawg414]

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hey.. at least he'd be able to relate to kids nowadays

[Paul]

He could even wear them now with his salt & peppa hair while he called the Hogs & it wouldn't bother me

[The Hawg Marshal]

He could even wear them now with his salt & peppa hair while he called the Hogs & it wouldn't bother me

Yep as long as he wins.

[Paul]

Yep as long as he wins.

that goes without saying. heh

[Marshfieldhog]

He could wear a speedo and have corn rows so long as we win 8-10 per year

[Paul]

I live in the Memphis Area.  There is a whole lot of chatter about the speech he gave yesterday at the TD Club in Memphis.  As in chatter, I mean that in a extremely positive way.  Many are saying if other schools would have had their AD's in attendance, they would have tried to hire him on the spot.  I do believe if we are smart enough to offer Norvell, he will take it.  Some over here think Arkansas is in the lead and have thought so before the season even started.

the Memphis boosters I know have been rooting all year for the Hogs, even more than me

[jackflash]

now who dreaming 10 wins

[Paul]

Exactly.  He's about to win the lottery... Not sure how big a factor going to UCA or having a wife from AR is going play.  I was raised in AR, my wife was born there...we don't live there now and unless some major genomic research centers crop up aren't likely to move back.  Point is, you go where the money is...

Even if the money were equal, the playing field isn't.  If we want him, gonna have to have the bankroll to play at the high stakes table.

Tenn's next coach will be their 5th in 10 years.  That's gotta factor in a coach's decision to go to Rocky Top.

[hogsanity]

Tenn's next coach will be their 5th in 10 years.  That's gotta factor in a coach's decision to go to Rocky Top.

Hogs getting a new coach would be their 5th HC in 10 yrs too.

[The Hawg Marshal]

Bret -5 yrs
John L. 1 yr
Bobby 4-yrs.
According to my math that is 10 years 3 coaches. What am I missing?

[Paul]

Bret -5 yrs
John L. 1 yr
Bobby 4-yrs.
According to my math that is 10 years 3 coaches. What am I missing?

Yep

[Matt Burks]

now who dreaming 10 wins

[The Hawg Marshal]

Drexel

[texas tush hog]

He's not FROM Arkansas, he's from Dallas.  Which is just another reason to get this guy hired.

Irving, actually. Arkansas is his dream job, according to family members. Jeffie, try not to screw this one up, please.

[texas tush hog]

The 'pick' for Norvell will be between AR and TN.  My brother graduated from TN and I've been in that stadium a hundred times.  It's no where close to a slam dunk that TN is a better job.  It very comparable to the UA job.  It depends on a lot of things and I can see a HC picking the hogs over the vols 4 to 5 out of 10 times.

Word on the street is that Tennessee wants Matt Campbell, and is prepared to drive up the road to Kentucky, and raid Fort Knox to get him.

[RebHog]

Norvell is following Fuente who took the job when the tigers won a grand total of 5 games from 2009-2012 when he took over. Fuente struggled early on then skyrocketed. Is Norvell just keeping the momentum going that someone else started?  How many of his players are on the field this year? I haven't watched any Memphis games this year cause I have no interest in their program and they have played 2 ranked opponents. They beat UCLA which is now 4-5 and got stomped by UCF which proved to be legit. I am not against him yet this small amount of wiki research is leaving me wondering why so are high not just Arkansas on this guy? The offensive appears to be a well oiled machine how much different is it then what Fuente ran while he was the Tiger head coach?

[Birminghog]

Wait a minute.!?!? Why did you just smash his head in with that Truth-ball bat.!??

Paranoia strikes deep. Into your lives it will creep. It starts when you're always afraid. Step out of line, the Man comes and takes you away.

[Hawginj]

There is a lot to like about Norvell. Young energetic,  fun high scoring offense, great special teams, state ties but why don't you do some research watch some highlights like many of us have done and you just might see why

[HatfieldEra]

Talent. 


Just my opinion. 

[Matt Burks]

Norvell is following Fuente who took the job when the tigers won a grand total of 5 games from 2009-2012 when he took over. Fuente struggled early on then skyrocketed. Is Norvell just keeping the momentum going that someone else started?  How many of his players are on the field this year? I haven't watched any Memphis games this year cause I have no interest in their program and they have played 2 ranked opponents. They beat UCLA which is now 4-5 and got stomped by UCF which proved to be legit. I am not against him yet this small amount of wiki research is leaving me wondering why so are high not just Arkansas on this guy? The offensive appears to be a well oiled machine how much different is it then what Fuente ran while he was the Tiger head coach?

Do research beyond Wikipedia. Fuente actually changed his offense after spending several days with Norvell. Also, Norvell is a better recruiter. Most of the starters on this year's Memphis team are freshmen that Norvell recruited.

[HogCzar1]

Assuming that the Memphis media accounts are correct, why not Norvell?

It appears from those accounts he WANTS the job. Not just an up and coming coach that we hope to convince to take it. He has Arkansas ties, he runs a more entertaining offense, he is young and energetic, and he has not let Justin Fuente's momentum at Memphis slide any.

For me, it would take an extremely high profile guy with a history of winning before I would pass on Norvell.

[Dwight_K_Shrute]

Dude has huge upside.  Nothing is guaranteed but at 36 could get a good 10 to 15 prime years out of him. 

[Tusks]

Do your own research.  There's plenty out there and detailed at that.

[RebHog]

Do research beyond Wikipedia. Fuente actually changed his offense after spending several days with Norvell. Also, Norvell is a better recruiter. Most of the starters on this year's Memphis team are freshmen that Norvell recruited.

Fuente actually changed his offense after spending several days with Norvell.
Can you post a link to this I didnt come up with anything on google?

Most of the starters on this year's Memphis team are freshmen that Norvell recruited.
http://www.ourlads.com/ncaa-football-depth-charts/depth-chart/memphis/91050

Freshman this year?

[Hollywood_HOGan45]

Because he's awsome. We'd be lucky to get him.

[ipigsooie]

Fuente actually changed his offense after spending several days with Norvell.
Can you post a link to this I didnt come up with anything on google?

Most of the starters on this year's Memphis team are freshmen that Norvell recruited.
http://www.ourlads.com/ncaa-football-depth-charts/depth-chart/memphis/91050

Freshman this year?

You do understand that those players that you highlighted with the tr beside their name are transfers and never played for Fuente? Also miller, who will be a first round draft pick was not highly recruited and barely played under Fuente. He had 600 yards receiving and jumped to 1400 the first year under norvell and will most likely have as much this year. Riley Ferguson is a Norvell recruit. I see you highlighted him as well.

[pigroots]

I have wondered the same thing. When a guy is successful for a short time after following someone else I wonder who should get the credit. May be great but sample size could mean he might be a bust. We can't afford a bust

[Paul]

I have wondered the same thing. When a guy is successful for a short time after following someone else I wonder who should get the credit. May be great but sample size could mean he might be a bust. We can't afford a bust

. All you have to do is read the threads in this forum & follow the links

[clutch]

I have wondered the same thing. When a guy is successful for a short time after following someone else I wonder who should get the credit. May be great but sample size could mean he might be a bust. We can't afford a bust

There's a reason that he's one of the most sought after coaches in the country right now. The man can flat out coach and recruit.

[Matt Burks]

Fuente actually changed his offense after spending several days with Norvell.
Can you post a link to this I didnt come up with anything on google?

Most of the starters on this year's Memphis team are freshmen that Norvell recruited.
http://www.ourlads.com/ncaa-football-depth-charts/depth-chart/memphis/91050

Freshman this year?

"It was former Tigers coach Justin Fuente who decided to switch to this style of offense ahead of quarterback Paxton Lynch's freshman year in 2013. Before doing so, he visited with Norvell, then the offensive coordinator at Arizona State, for three days.
Fuente "stole a lot of ideas," according to Dickey, who also served as Fuente's offensive coordinator."

http://www.commercialappeal.com/story/sports/college/memphis-tigers/football/2017/10/26/memphis-football-speeding-ticket-offense-tigers-mike-norvell-riley-ferguson-anthony-miller-tulane/803769001/

[RebHog]

You do understand that those players that you highlighted with the tr beside their name are transfers and never played for Fuente? Also miller, who will be a first round draft pick was not highly recruited and barely played under Fuente. He had 600 yards receiving and jumped to 1400 the first year under norvell and will most likely have as much this year. Riley Ferguson is a Norvell recruit. I see you highlighted him as well.

Umm what???...... the players "I" highlighted lol? I posted a link to a webpage that had the most current roster chart I could find. Then again even if I highlighted them that brings the grand total on offense and defense to 4. What is your definition for most cause we aren't on the same page there. I just started this thread to hopefully hear some good insight on why not just us but a lot are high on this guy. I would love to hear some good insight on why after 1.5 years into a mid tier job behind a coach that got the ball rolling why he would be the solution and for what reason...all im looking for!???
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[RebHog]

"It was former Tigers coach Justin Fuente who decided to switch to this style of offense ahead of quarterback Paxton Lynch's freshman year in 2013. Before doing so, he visited with Norvell, then the offensive coordinator at Arizona State, for three days.
Fuente "stole a lot of ideas," according to Dickey, who also served as Fuente's offensive coordinator."

http://www.commercialappeal.com/story/sports/college/memphis-tigers/football/2017/10/26/memphis-football-speeding-ticket-offense-tigers-mike-norvell-riley-ferguson-anthony-miller-tulane/803769001/

Yeeshh.....says the OC who wasn't brought along to a better school then became the OC for said coach of those ideas. 

[Matt Burks]

Yeeshh.....says the OC who wasn't brought along to a better school then became the OC for said coach of those ideas. 

Please rephrase, I don't quite understand your statement.

[Matt Burks]

I've researched him quite a bit and I've found some very interesting things about Norvell, including that he, Gus, SMU's Morris and Chicago Bears OC Dowell Loggains meet occasionally and discuss football schemes. He's obviously very much respected and admired by other football coaches. His mentor Graham -

Graham has worked with some impressive offensive minds during his seven-year career. Aside from Malzahn, Clemson offensive coordinator Chad Morris and Texas co-offensive coordinator Major Applewhite are both a part of his coaching tree.
Still, Graham said Norvell, as a complete package, is the best of the group, someone who one day will be a "big-time" coach.

"Just being honest, Mike I would not consider (only) an offensive guy," Graham said. "He understands how it's about all three components working together. It's not just about how many yards he has on offense. He's the best recruiter I've been around. That's what separates him. He's growing. He listens and learns. Mike is a guy that just really, really gets it."

http://archive.azcentral.com/sports/asu/articles/20130830asu-offensive-coordinator-mike-norvell-driven-best.html

[Paul]

Please rephrase, I don't quite understand your statement.

think i've deciphered this post.  He thinks that Fuente cane from Arizona St & didn't bring Norvell along but he brought Dickey with him who credits Norvell for Fuente's offense. Amirite? 
Actually Fuente came from TCU & never was on the same staff as Norvell as far as can tell

[The Hawg Marshal]

I'll always be a Razorback fan, but my second favorite team is going to be whoever Norvell is coaching. I just like the guy.

[Paul]

Umm what???...... the players "I" highlighted lol? I posted a link to a webpage that had the most current roster chart I could find. Then again even if I highlighted them that brings the grand total on offense and defense to 4. What is your definition for most cause we aren't on the same page there. I just started this thread to hopefully hear some good insight on why not just us but a lot are high on this guy. I would love to hear some good insight on why after 1.5 years into a mid tier job behind a coach that got the ball rolling why he would be the solution and for what reason...all im looking for!???
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many of the current starters are first time starters due to graduation or injury. These are not all freshman.  Some may be juco( which Memphis relies on heavily).  Since they're 1st time Starters Fuente shouldn't get credit. Remember that Norvell's recruiting classes are higher than Fuente's & Norvell's mid-tier team is ranked in all polls including the Playoff Poll(pretty sure Fuente bever accomplishes this).

[Dominicanhog]

What if we get GRUDEN instead???

I know your kidding but others aren't ...The UT talk of Gruden is comical.. Watch any football and you'll see him doing every commercial there is.. all my brands Corona, Dunkin Donuts etc.. He has to be making a killing.....Still a fun name to throw around , but not enough money out there to ever bring him back... but, I guess you never know...

[PharmacistHog]

You know all the BB lovers need to get a room and stop trashing all the threads.

Look your guy is going down in flames in a historic manner.  You got nothing.  Take your nothing and go away.

I'd like you to point out all these Bielema lovers. Name them. I bet you can't.

[Dominicanhog]

I'd like you to point out all these Bielema lovers. Name them. I bet you can't.

Nobody is going to defend his results at this point,  but many can still defend the person and support the program at the same time..

[clutch]

Yeeshh.....says the OC who wasn't brought along to a better school then became the OC for said coach of those ideas. 

Seems you are firmly against him, not just looking for insight on him. You wouldn't do the research on your own, yet doubt the information that others are giving you after you asked for it.

If you are wondering why Dickey didn't get to go to Va Tech, it is because he was only a Co-OC along with longtime friend of Fuente Brad Cornelsen. Fuente took Cornelsen with him because that's his guy. Same way Dickey was only Co-Oc during Norvell's first season at Memphis. Norvell brought his guy Chip Long with him from ASU. Long was hired away by Notre Dame.

[The_Boot_stops_here]

Nobody is going to defend his results at this point,  but many can still defend the person and support the program at the same time..

Good point.  I actually like Bret Bielema and would prefer that he win enough to make it worth keeping him around.  But, unfortunately, it ain't happening.  So it's time to cut bait and go get Norvell

[prattville pig]

man, that cornbread looks good!  Just imagine next fall, a big ole pot of home made soup and skillet of cornbread watching a Mike Norvell coached hog team playing.  Can't wait!

[Paul]

Seems you are firmly against him, not just looking for insight on him. You wouldn't do the research on your own, yet doubt the information that others are giving you after you asked for it.

If you are wondering why Dickey didn't get to go to Va Tech, it is because he was only a Co-OC along with longtime friend of Fuente Brad Cornelsen. Fuente took Cornelsen with him because that's his guy. Same way Dickey was only Co-Oc during Norvell's first season at Memphis. Norvell brought his guy Chip Long with him from ASU. Long was hired away by Notre Dame.

Chip Long is great.  Dickey is the RB coach now.

[ipigsooie]

The most important connection norvell has to Arkansas is the one between his agent and jeff long as they are working out the details of his contract. (I hope!)

[clutch]

  Chip Long is great.  Dickey is the RB coach now.

He's OC as well isn't he? He's listed as RB/OC

[RebHog]

think i've deciphered this post.  He thinks that Fuente cane from Arizona St & didn't bring Norvell along but he brought Dickey with him who credits Norvell for Fuente's offense. Amirite? 
Actually Fuente came from TCU & never was on the same staff as Norvell as far as can tell

Wrong Sorry I was a lil sauced up but I took this "Fuente "stole a lot of ideas," according to Dickey, who also served as Fuente's offensive coordinator." as someone who was left behind by fuentes at memphis when he went to VT and may have sour grapes?

[RebHog]

Seems you are firmly against him, not just looking for insight on him. You wouldn't do the research on your own, yet doubt the information that others are giving you after you asked for it.

If you are wondering why Dickey didn't get to go to Va Tech, it is because he was only a Co-OC along with longtime friend of Fuente Brad Cornelsen. Fuente took Cornelsen with him because that's his guy. Same way Dickey was only Co-Oc during Norvell's first season at Memphis. Norvell brought his guy Chip Long with him from ASU. Long was hired away by Notre Dame.

Good info thanks!