Women kneeling....

[(notOM)Rebel123]

Sorry, Jimmy....you just lost me as a fan.
Arkansas Women's Basketball Team Kneels During National Anthem
http://www.nwahomepage.com/news/breaking-news/arkansas-womens-basketball-team-kneels-during-national-anthem

[Arazorbackguy1]

Best way to fix this...  do the national anthem before the players are on the court/field.  We don't have a problem with it in college football.

[Pigdiana Jones]

Or they could be taught to show respect or they don't play. This crap is beyond ridiculous.

[(notOM)Rebel123]

Or they could be taught to show respect or they don't play. This crap is beyond ridiculous.

Bingo!

[Hog N Bama]

BOOOOOO Whiners that disrespect this country need to get out and see if they can find a better one and stay there

[Hawghiggs]

 revoke scholarship.

[lahawg1]

There would be more scholarships available next year.

[MountieDawg]

Sorry, Jimmy....you just lost me as a fan.
Arkansas Women's Basketball Team Kneels During National Anthem
http://www.nwahomepage.com/news/breaking-news/arkansas-womens-basketball-team-kneels-during-national-anthem

I was a big fan of CJD, but no respect now. His days will be numbered when seats are more empty.

[rhames]

revoke scholarship.

And get sued?


I'm not a fan of this as much as anybody but there really isn't a lot anyone can do . It's their right to do whatever they want during the National Anthem 


If the anthem was played after the football team came out there would be players doing it too 

[(notOM)Rebel123]

Maybe they were protesting all of the senseless shootings by the UAPD?
Geez.

[BigE_23]

Nice bait and switch with the thread title...

[(notOM)Rebel123]

And get sued?


I'm not a fan of this as much as anybody but there really isn't a lot anyone can do . It's their right to do whatever they want during the National Anthem 


If the anthem was played after the football team came out there would be players doing it too 

Sued? For what? Scholarships are "year to year". If they don't meet the standards of conduct, adios.

[(notOM)Rebel123]

Nice bait and switch with the thread title...

Ouch. You caught me.... 😉

[rhames]

Sued? For what? Scholarships are "year to year". If they don't meet the standards, adios.

Discrimination due to personal belief?


Look at what happened at mizziou last year 



You can't not renew a scholarship because someone didn't stand during the national anthem 

[(notOM)Rebel123]

You can't not renew a scholarship because someone didn't stand during the national anthem

Really? Says who? Plus, there are other ways....

[rhames]

Really? Says who? Plus, there are other ways....

What other ways?

Were you watching a lot of women's basketball?? Going to a lot of their games??

[verticalhog]

It will be interesting to hear what Dykes says about this.

[(notOM)Rebel123]

What other ways?

Were you watching a lot of women's basketball?? Going to a lot of their games??

For one, not meeting the standards of conduct, behavior wise. Bringing negative publicity to the University. Many a student-athlete has been "dismissed" because of their behavior.

.....and Yes. Several a year.

[Pigdiana Jones]

Discrimination due to personal belief?


Look at what happened at mizziou last year 



You can't not renew a scholarship because someone didn't stand during the national anthem

Yes, you can. They all agreed to a certain way of doing things which is being respectful and especially while representing the U of A.

[rhames]

Yes. Several a year.

I guess you can do your part by not going then 

[stevec]

This is a silly thing to get upset about.  If people ignored it, they would stop doing it.

[rhames]

Yes, you can. They all agreed to a certain way of doing things which is being respectful and especially while representing the U of A.

Really? What exactly did they agree to?

[rhames]

This is a silly thing to get upset about.  If people ignored it, they would stop doing it.

Bingo

[thefisher]

Discrimination due to personal belief?


Look at what happened at mizziou last year 



You can't not renew a scholarship because someone didn't stand during the national anthem

I thought there was a clause about dismissal if you committed acts that were damaging to the University. A "Code Of Conduct" agreement they signed to play for the school.  They could damn sure make it a condition of any future scholarship recipients.  When an athlete is on the floor or field wearing that uniform they are the public image of the university and the school damn sure can control actions on that basis.  Now .... if an athlete wants to protest on their own time wearing their own clothes then I am first in line to support their right to do so. However, if you are wearing that uniform on game day the requirements are different at that moment.

[(notOM)Rebel123]

Bingo

I expect the student-athletes that I support financially, to respect the National Anthem and the United States of America. If they choose not to do so, I have the every right to withhold my support.

[rhames]

I expect the student-athletes that I support financially, to respect the National Anthem and the United States of America. If they choose not to do so, I have the every right to withhold my support.

No doubt about it


Never said you didn't 

[stevec]

One could argue that dissent and exercising freedom of speech are patriotic concepts.  This country has much more important issues than someone taking a knee during the anthem.

[(notOM)Rebel123]

No doubt about it


Never said you didn't 

But they do not have the right to do whatever they want when wearing the uniform and representing the UofA.

[rhames]

I thought there was a clause about dismissal if you committed acts that were damaging to the University. A "Code Of Conduct" agreement they signed to play for the school.  They could damn sure make it a condition of any future scholarship recipients.  When an athlete is on the floor or field wearing that uniform they are the public image of the university and the school damn sure can control actions on that basis.  Now .... if an athlete wants to protest on their own time wearing their own clothes then I am first in line to support their right to do so. However, if you are wearing that uniform on game day the requirements are different at that moment.

You can't require anyone to stand for the National Anthem anymore than you can require them to pray or whatever 

[(notOM)Rebel123]

One could argue that dissent and exercising freedom of speech are patriotic concepts.  This country has much more important issues than someone taking a knee during the anthem.

Attitudes such as this, has gotten this country to where it is today. When you fail to respect the very flag and anthem that gives you your rights, then you don't deserve that right.

[stevec]

Sure thing, Bubba.  Educate me, wise man.

[(notOM)Rebel123]

You can't require anyone to stand for the National Anthem anymore than you can require them to pray or whatever 

But you can't require a University and/or athletic department to give them free tuition, room, board, & medical care, either.

[rhames]

But they do not have the right to do whatever they want when wearing the uniform and representing the UofA.

They have every right the constitution provides them while wearing whatever clothing 


Their actions isn't causing  harm to anyone . Like I said  look at what happened at mizziou last year .  That really set the tone for this whole thing .

They have a right to do it just as much as you have a right to get mad

[(notOM)Rebel123]

Sure thing, Bubba.  Educate me, wise man.

Hang around...I will.

[(notOM)Rebel123]

They have every right the constitution provides them while wearing whatever clothing 
Their actions isn't calming harm to anyone . Like I said  look at what happened at mizziou last year .  That really set the tone for this whole thing .

They have a right to do it just as much as you have a right to get mad

No they do not. When they sign their letter of intent, they agree to certain standards & conditions. If they fail to meet those, they can be released of their scholarships. They agree to it....pretty simple.

[stevec]

We should really enforce patriotism with martial law.  Sic the dogs on these people.  Teach them respect.

[(notOM)Rebel123]

We should really enforce patriotism with martial law.  Sic the dogs on these people.  Teach them respect.

Totally agree. You are coming around much quicker than anticipated.
Martial law? Not to that extreme...but those who refuse to show respect for this country should be ashamed of themselves. Enjoy the rights you have while spitting in the faces of those who died to preserve those rights for you.

[rhames]

No they do not. When they sign their letter of intent, they agree to certain standards & conditions. If they fail to meet those, they can be released of their scholarships. They agree to it....pretty simple.

Where does it say they have to stand for the National Anthem??


There have been players that haven't lived up to the "standards" in much more damaging ways to the university that didn't lose their scholarships 


I don't like it just as much as you don't but the school cannot really do much about it 

[TeufelHog]

Athletic Department better get a handle on this before we have a "Mizzou Situation" on our hands and we see an impact on future university enrollment.  As far as CJD is concerned . . . expected better leadership on his behalf.  As an alum, I am truly disappointed in the team decision and coaching staff lack of leadership.  There are many other methods out there, which are less disrespectful, to support a cause.

Maybe CJD needs to take a page out of CBW leadership book . . .

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/basketball-coach-veterans-national-anthem_us_56e2eaece4b065e2e3d5b10d

[al_pigcino]

It will be interesting to hear what Dykes says about this.

I'd by 25 papers if they had the headline "Dykes opinion on women kneeling"

[rhames]

I'd by 25 papers if they had the headline "Dykes opinion on women kneeling"

Hahahahaha . Laugh of the day

[(notOM)Rebel123]

Where does it say they have to stand for the National Anthem??


There have been players that haven't lived up to the "standards" in much more damaging ways to the university that didn't lose their scholarships 


I don't like it just as much as you don't but the school cannot really do much about it 

Yes they can. The school controls the purse strings and they can tell them to get off their knees and stand, if they want to remain in scholarship.

[Hawgzinbowlz]

0% support for CJD and his team.

" GO HOGS "

[BigSexyHog]

They lost my support

[WaltKowalski]

Maybe we can put an end to the abomination that is womens BB.

[Ben]

oh great...people still bitching and moaning about people kneeling during the anthem. Of course I expect Arkansans on here to hate it, being the state we are. It isn't hurting anybody but oversensitive people. The same ones against it are the same ones who don't even stand for the anthem when its being played on TV before a game at home.

[rhames]

Yes they can. The school controls the purse strings and they can tell them to get off their knees and stand, if they want to remain in scholarship.

So should the school be able to force any idea on them? Say, have people come talk to them about who to vote for, what religion to follow? I'm sure you wouldn't have a problem with that as long as you agreed with it . The university is between a rock and a hard place on how to handle this 


Say they did what you are asking them to do, can you imagine the media backlash? And yeah there would be law suits 





It would make mizziou look like Disney land 

[sickboy]

Or they could be taught to show respect or they don't play. This crap is beyond ridiculous.

BOOOOOO Whiners that disrespect this country need to get out and see if they can find a better one and stay there

revoke scholarship.

Guys, I disagree with kneeling during the anthem too, in a philosophical sense. But this country is built on a foundation of free speech. When you start trying to control speech, you're going against everything this country was founded on and what our men and women of the military fight every day to preserve for us all. You can't punish these girls by revoking scholarships or benching them -- that's suppressing our most hallowed right as an American.

The irony is -- I'm sure you all consider yourself proud Americans. If you want to stand on that pilar of patriotism, then stand up for these girls and their right to voice their opinion, while taking a stance against their philosophies in a way that doesn't infringe on their most basic rights. If that means not supporting the Women's Basketball team... then do that. But don't say they should be punished for voicing their opinion. This isn't a third world country.

[thefisher]

You can't require anyone to stand for the National Anthem anymore than you can require them to pray or whatever

I disagree.  In fact the owner of the Kansas City Chiefs said any coach, player, or employee of the Chiefs who pulled that would be fired on the spot.

If not bringing shame on the university is part of the code of conduct that must be adhered to in order to maintain their scholarship then the school can certainly enforce it.

However, even if a person rejected that idea then a coach can certainly require them to stay in the locker room until the anthem is over.  I think that gives to much manipulative power to an individual but some might choose that option.

[PorkRinds]

Bunch a dudes that prolly never watched or attended a lady backs basketball game.