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Been twenty years or so since we were a legit team and.....

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Country Stylz

Every loss still feels like a punch in the gut. Recruiting trail included.

devildoghawg

Yeah, we are pretty bad.  There is ZERO coaching going on during the game.
Quote from: kingofdequeen on July 25, 2013, 06:21:48 pm
If you've got a dumba** son, do you love him any less?  no.  you just overlook his faults b/c you love him.  At least that's what my dad does.

 


Atlhogfan1

Quote from: Country Stylz on January 23, 2016, 07:27:39 pm
Every loss still feels like a punch in the gut. Recruiting trail included.

I find it amazing and admirable you and others still feel something towards basketball. 
Quote from: MaconBacon on March 22, 2018, 10:30:04 amWe had a good run in the 90's and one NC and now the whole state still laments that we are a top seed program and have kids standing in line to come to good ole Arkansas.  We're just a flash in the pan boys. 

WorfHog

Quote from: devildoghawg on January 23, 2016, 07:29:14 pm
Yeah, we are pretty bad.  There is ZERO coaching going on during the game.

Zero coaching going on during the game, zero recruiting going on last year. Can you guys take every aspect of your job off and still get paid millions?

hogginbama

Quote from: Atlhogfan1 on January 23, 2016, 07:30:28 pm
I find it amazing and admirable you and others still feel something towards basketball.

Pisses me off everytime I watch them. Been out of the state for 28 yrs now, doing Uncle Sam's work and I love my Hogs. For once I wish we could be relevant again in either major sport.
My ole buddy Biscuit has crossed that rainbow bridge. Life sure is different without him around.

hobhog

National  media speaks in past tense when referring to us. That won't change any time soon.

Letsroll1200


HawgAdvocate

Quote from: Letsroll1200 on January 23, 2016, 07:44:01 pm
27 wins last season. How soon we forget.

Fans tend to remember Sweet 16s, Elite Eights, Final Fours, etc.

Individual year win totals, not so much.
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The_Iceman

Quote from: Letsroll1200 on January 23, 2016, 07:44:01 pm
27 wins last season. How soon we forget.

While only getting to the 2nd round of the NCAA after beating Wofford, then bring in the last ranked recruiting class in the SEC, and currently sitting at 9-10 on the season. I think it's you who are forgetting.

WorfHog

Quote from: HawgAdvocate on January 23, 2016, 07:47:34 pm
Fans tend to remember Sweet 16s, Elite Eights, Final Fours, etc.

Individual year win totals, not so much.
Man that second round loss to UNC was SWEET!

devildoghawg

Quote from: Letsroll1200 on January 23, 2016, 07:44:01 pm
27 wins last season. How soon we forget.

I'll remember when we hang a banner that doesn't say, "congrats for meeting expectations after 5 seasons".
Quote from: kingofdequeen on July 25, 2013, 06:21:48 pm
If you've got a dumba** son, do you love him any less?  no.  you just overlook his faults b/c you love him.  At least that's what my dad does.

Letsroll1200

Quote from: The_Iceman on January 23, 2016, 07:47:57 pm
While only getting to the 2nd round of the NCAA after beating Wofford, then bring in the last ranked recruiting class in the SEC, and currently sitting at 9-10 on the season. I think it's you who are forgetting.

When was the last time the program won 27 games in a season?

 

code red

Quote from: Letsroll1200 on January 23, 2016, 07:44:01 pm
27 wins last season. How soon we forget.
We never said that in the 90s.  These kids aren't getting what they need.
"If what you did yesterday seems big, you haven't done anything today."  Dr. Lou

Letsroll1200

Quote from: code red on January 23, 2016, 07:50:32 pm
We never said that in the 90s.  These kids aren't getting what they need.

It's not the 90's anymore. This program had done absolutely nothing since Nolan was fired. MA will right the ship and those that get off just stay off.

PonderinHog


PonderinHog

Quote from: The_Iceman on January 23, 2016, 07:47:57 pm
While only getting to the 2nd round of the NCAA after beating Wofford, then bring in the last ranked recruiting class in the SEC, and currently sitting at 9-10 on the season. I think it's you who are forgetting.
There's no shame in losing to a UNC team with more MDAA's than Kentucky last year.

Mr. Porkleone

Quote from: Letsroll1200 on January 23, 2016, 07:44:01 pm
27 wins last season. How soon we forget.

Suck the previous 18 years before that. How soon you forget

Knot2brite

Quote from: Letsroll1200 on January 23, 2016, 07:44:01 pm
27 wins last season. How soon we forget.
You remind every one of that regularly. Here is my questions...is this last year? Are you satisfied with 27 wins and a second round exit in the NCAA tournament?  Is the product that is put on the floor enough to make you happy? Is it the man that you like or the players that you like or the whole Razorback athletic program?

I am not putting you on blast. I am just trying to figure out the basis for remind everyone in every thread that expresses discontent with MA and the program that we won 27 last year
Usually in EI where intelligent conversation is required

Country Stylz

Quote from: Letsroll1200 on January 23, 2016, 07:44:01 pm
27 wins last season. How soon we forget.
Didn't feel like a legit team. Did you see how North Carolina and Kentucky beat us with ease? We did get in the tournament and got to the second round. How soon I forget you're right.

Mr. Porkleone

Quote from: Country Stylz on January 23, 2016, 08:01:34 pm
Didn't feel like a legit team. Did you see how North Carolina beat us with ease. We did get in the tournament and got to the secong round. How soon I forget you're right.

Everybody beats us with eases.  Geeeezz

Country Stylz

27 wins and a year later the bottom falls out. We need a big man that will knock down that 15 foot jumper that's always wide open.

hobhog

Quote from: Letsroll1200 on January 23, 2016, 07:50:37 pm
It's not the 90's anymore. This program had done absolutely nothing since Nolan was fired. MA will right the ship and those that get off just stay off.

My son is an avid Hog fan and student. Goes to all games. He and his 3 room mates have had it and are off. Me too...

Time to move on if he can't pull of a real win streak.

Letsroll1200

Quote from: Country Stylz on January 23, 2016, 08:01:34 pm
Didn't feel like a legit team. Did you see how North Carolina and Kentucky beat us with ease? We did get in the tournament and got to the second round. How soon I forget you're right.

You didn't watch the game against Carolina. This team was going to struggle this season. They are struggling but they have competed hard and the ball is going to bounce their direction soon.

We have a team full of guys that have not played a lot of basketball.

 

LR_Matt


hobhog

Quote from: Letsroll1200 on January 23, 2016, 07:48:37 pm
When was the last time the program won 27 games in a season?

Selective history. Must be a statistician.....

WorfHog

2014-2015:Best season in twenty years, very much hopefully not the best season in the next twenty years.

EastexHawg

Quote from: Letsroll1200 on January 23, 2016, 07:48:37 pm
When was the last time the program won 27 games in a season?

How many more games do we play now than before?  One of Sutton's teams finished 26-2.  Longer seasons and conference tournaments make comparing win totals   deceiving.

hamARchy in the USA

Quote from: Country Stylz on January 23, 2016, 08:01:34 pm
Didn't feel like a legit team. Did you see how North Carolina and Kentucky beat us with ease? We did get in the tournament and got to the second round. How soon I forget you're right.

You're exactly right.

Last year's results were very weak considering the team enjoyed 2 very favorable anomalies.

First and foremost was the conference schedule which was overloaded with the weakest teams, a scheduling quirk that was a result of over expansion.  Despite having the league's easiest slate the team struggled with 11 of its 18 games being decided by 6 points or less.

The other anomaly was having a homegrown NBA talent to lead the team.

Even with such favorable circumstances the team was not close to playing for the conference title.  Take away those two anomalies and it probably would have finished at or near the bottom.

A good coaching staff in its fourth year with those circumstances would've had a team in the title right down to the last game.


Wild Bill Hog


hogwood

Why do people even make these threads anymore? So boring. Same ol same ol. Just a bunch of cyber bots whining.

Hoggy Hogalot

It's been 20 years since we have had a coach that's holds his team accountable for their play.
20 years since we have had teams with that killer mindset that they weren't going to be beat.
20 years since we have had that presents on the sideline that Nolan had.

SleepyJ

Are you smoking crack??? We were a 5 seed in last years tournament did yall forget??? I know u didn't...  Post like this is why we consistently rank in the top 10 dumbest fan bases in the country... we were ranked in the top 25 several times last season...

Count Hogula

Quote from: SleepyJ on January 24, 2016, 07:59:30 am
Are you smoking crack??? We were a 5 seed in last years tournament did yall forget??? I know u didn't...  Post like this is why we consistently rank in the top 10 dumbest fan bases in the country... we were ranked in the top 25 several times last season...

LOL some of y'all are easy to please. We played with the best of them starting with Sutton.

He took over a nonexistent program and was rolling by year three. Nolan took it to the next level and it has been down hill ever since.

What exactly don't you understand about 9-10?

ErieHog

Quote from: Hoggy Hogalot on January 24, 2016, 07:17:43 am
It's been 20 years since we have had a coach that's holds his team accountable for their play.
20 years since we have had teams with that killer mindset that they weren't going to be beat.
20 years since we have had that presents on the sideline that Nolan had.

Considering that Nolan was here 15 years ago...that doesn't hold up.  Then again, perhaps he was a less gifted coach at the end.

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wheelspigharvey

About half the comments in this thread are exactly what I was saying the other say played out.  Minimize CMAs achievements by trying to frame them as less noteworthy than they are, and if you can't do that, minimize the credit he deserves.

SleepyJ

Quote from: Count Hogula on January 24, 2016, 08:08:41 am
LOL some of y'all are easy to please. We played with the best of them starting with Sutton.

He took over a nonexistent program and was rolling by year three. Nolan took it to the next level and it has been down hill ever since.

What exactly don't you understand about 9-10?



No some of yall are old and senile... Eddie sutton left Arkansas after he got an offer to go to Kentucky kind of like Malik did but there was no Mike Anderson to blame or try and take it out on...Billie Gillespie did too maybe we can blame that one on Mike.....NOW what do you not understand about rebuilding we have a player from the freaking girls practice squad on our roster... We had a HUGE scandal over the summer lost 2 players in the draft... Any human being with a normal functioning brain expected a struggle this season we don't even have a player who averaged 8ppg last season and have 5 new starters... There aren't very many coaches who have NEVER had a losing season... I don't undrstand how our coach can't have 1... Even duke and Kentucky rebuild... What can't you comprehend about that?

Count Hogula

Quote from: SleepyJ on January 24, 2016, 08:33:28 am


No some of yall are old and senile... Eddie sutton left Arkansas after he got an offer to go to Kentucky kind of like Malik did but there was no Mike Anderson to blame or try and take it out on...Billie Gillespie did too maybe we can blame that one on Mike.....NOW what do you not understand about rebuilding we have a player from the freaking girls practice squad on our roster... We had a HUGE scandal over the summer lost 2 players in the draft... Any human being with a normal functioning brain expected a struggle this season we don't even have a player who averaged 8ppg last season and have 5 new starters... There aren't very many coaches who have NEVER had a losing season... I don't undrstand how our coach can't have 1... Even duke and Kentucky rebuild... What can't you comprehend about that?
Quote from: wheelspigharvey on January 24, 2016, 08:23:03 am
About half the comments in this thread are exactly what I was saying the other say played out.  Minimize CMAs achievements by trying to frame them as less noteworthy than they are, and if you can't do that, minimize the credit he deserves.
ent
My post was about what Sutton took over and within three years turned around. Your post is irrelevant.

lynbug

This is exactly the message I was trying to convey.  When the big men are out on the perimeter attempting very low percentage shots and the small guards are driving into two or three giants under the basket trying to make a low percentage layup....they sometimes show Mike sitting and he sometimes looks like he's feeling the same things as us, "dang, I sure wish they wouldn't make some of those stupid decisions".  Except, wait....he's the coach.  How about him trying to minimize some of those decisions with in-game adjustments, like sitting a player or making strategic adjustments.  I understand the "flow of the game" concept.  But I just think he allows he craziness to continue a little bit too long.  I'm definitely not a Mike hater.  In fact, I followed as many of his games as I could when he was at UAB and Mizzou, thinking that eventually we would get him back.  Well, he's back and he just don't look or act the same and definitely not the same results on the floor.  I'm just trying to understand why.  For example, was it the Vandy game when Moses had been virtually unstoppable in regulation (26 pts maybe).  He only got a couple of shots in OT while Anton, Dusty and Anthlon wouldn't stop with the threes that weren't falling.

SleepyJ

Quote from: Count Hogula on January 24, 2016, 08:40:13 am
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My post was about what Sutton took over and within three years turned around. Your post is irrelevant.


Hate to inform you but all the post on hogville are irrelevant... And nobody cares what sutton did in the 70's it's a 2016.. College basketball has changed a lot... You probably don't understand that either...

Count Hogula

Quote from: SleepyJ on January 24, 2016, 09:20:44 am

Hate to inform you but all the post on hogville are irrelevant... And nobody cares what sutton did in the 70's it's a 2016.. College basketball has changed a lot... You probably don't understand that either...

Arkansas was big time Basketball. Take your BS else where.

Excuses?


SleepyJ

Quote from: Count Hogula on January 24, 2016, 09:28:33 am
Arkansas was big time Basketball. Take your BS else where.

Excuses?

nah I don't have to go anywhere with my bs which is actually just the truth.....and you can look at mikes coaching history no need for excuses... The man has been coaching for 14  and you want to judge his entire career in a year where he had barely had enough players to practice.. now why do you choose to do that? Why do you ignore all his accomplishments and make a big deal out of losses in a rebuilding season.... We were big last year #2 in the sec behind a team of lottery picks... We will be big time again because we have a big time coach...  No matter how hard you try to belittle him or his accomplishments and success...


hogwood

Effin' old ass people wanna fire CMA and ruin the future for all us younger fans. Young people only know that CMA is the only good thing that has happened to this program in 20 years. Anything before that doesn't exist. Leave all that behind this is 2016. We had a good season (don't rail me, I said good not great!). Portis and Qualls and last season was the most fun season to be a Hog fan I can honestly remember. I can vaguely remember Hood, Bradley, and Reid. Other than that it's all effin' Sergerio Gipsons, Charles Tatums, Steven Hills, and Rickey Scotts. And if we hadn't lost Portis and Qualls, and not had some kids make mistakes, as well as the NCAA mandating effin' middle school transcripts from the Congo, we'd be a top 10 team right now in this year's landscape and everyone would be sucking Mike's nuts. Or you'd still be hating him because he doesn't scream at ref's or doesn't sign white kids.

hogman99

Quote from: Letsroll1200 on January 23, 2016, 08:08:47 pm
You didn't watch the game against Carolina. This team was going to struggle this season. They are struggling but they have competed hard and the ball is going to bounce their direction soon.

We have a team full of guys that have not played a lot of basketball.

BINGO you have finally figured it out. Welcome to the realist.

MountieDawg

Quote from: SleepyJ on January 24, 2016, 09:50:58 am
nah I don't have to go anywhere with my bs which is actually just the truth.....and you can look at mikes coaching history no need for excuses... The man has been coaching for 14  and you want to judge his entire career in a year where he had barely had enough players to practice.. now why do you choose to do that? Why do you ignore all his accomplishments and make a big deal out of losses in a rebuilding season.... We were big last year #2 in the sec behind a team of lottery picks... We will be big time again because we have a big time coach...  No matter how hard you try to belittle him or his accomplishments and success...



So in 14 years MA has 8 NCAAT wins, 3 of those were in 1 year and you want to say his coaching career speaks for itself? 8 wins in 14 years does not speak one of the better coaches.
SEC!

ke2743

Quote from: devildoghawg on January 23, 2016, 07:29:14 pm
Yeah, we are pretty bad.  There is ZERO coaching going on during the game.

I love every time the announcers mention that MA takes his jacket off.  He's pretty good at doing that.

hogsanity

No, they were a legitimate team in 14/15. That is how teams are made now, you have to go out and get a star, a go to guy like Portis, pair him with a explosive player like Qualls and then have roll players. The problem for Mike is unless the kid is a die hard going to that school no matter type of recruit, or the kid of a family member or close friend, Mike has not shown the ability to land the star.
People ask me what I do in winter when there is no baseball.  I will tell you what I do. I stare out the window, and I wait for spring.

"Anything goes wrong, anything at all, your fault, my fault, nobodies fault, I'm going to blow your head off."  John Wayne in BIG JAKE

The_Iceman

From the 2012 to 2016 in state classes during Mike's tenure, Mike has had 3 McDonald's All American's and 3 four-star players from within his boarders. He has landed two of those players: Beard and Portis. Monk, Goodwin, Allen, and Curry have all gone out of state. Look right there and you'll see why we aren't where we should be as a program.

Danny J

Quote from: The_Iceman on January 25, 2016, 11:30:36 am
From the 2012 to 2016 in state classes during Mike's tenure, Mike has had 3 McDonald's All American's and 3 four-star players from within his boarders. He has landed two of those players: Beard and Portis. Monk, Goodwin, Allen, and Curry have all gone out of state. Look right there and you'll see why we aren't where we should be as a program.
You are correct......

Recruiting must improve or CMA will not be the coach much longer.....

hogsanity

Quote from: Danny J on January 25, 2016, 11:34:26 am
You are correct......

Recruiting must improve or CMA will not be the coach much longer.....

1st part true, 2nd part false.
People ask me what I do in winter when there is no baseball.  I will tell you what I do. I stare out the window, and I wait for spring.

"Anything goes wrong, anything at all, your fault, my fault, nobodies fault, I'm going to blow your head off."  John Wayne in BIG JAKE