Eliminate the one and dones

[MB Hog]

I'm so sick of the Kentucky crap with the one and done players.  Time to reinstate the ability to go straight from high school to the pros.  Then if you choose to play in college, you can't get drafted for three years.  Baseball has it right.

As soon as they impose this rule, Calipari moves to the pros and Kentucky doesn't automatically sign a bunch of 5-stars each year who only plan to stay in college for one obligatory year.

Send the players who don't care about education on their way and quit wasting good scholarships on them.

[BPsTheMan]

Agreed

[ErieHog]

I'll never understand the call to make college basketball a worse sport, played by less talent.

[KentuckyFan]

Well Kentucky non-Freshman did score 47 points tonight.  If anything, this year's team really only "relies" on Murray.  Everyone outside of Ulis is a role player, including all of the other Freshman.

[UKChamps]

So salty.  If you'd have landed Monk then 1 and done wouldn't sound so bad.

[TheOtherColombia]

Yeah cause pre one and done being so popular Kentucky just sucked...and so did Duke, UNC, Arizona, UCLA, Kansas, and other blue bloods of college basketball.  Doesn't matter what the rules are some schools are just going to get better talent than others.  You really think a borderline kid who isn't quite NBA ready is going to go to some no name school or going to go to one of the schools I listed above if the rules are changed?  Those schools will just keep on getting whatever the new "tier 1", for lack of better term, talent pool is.   

[elksnort]

Yes, but "Come play for Cal at Kentucky, I'll get you ready for the pros" thing really will not mean as much. The players are idiots for thinking this anyway

[010HogFan]

So salty.  If you'd have landed Monk then 1 and done wouldn't sound so bad.

why are you on this board?

[MountieDawg]

I'm so sick of the Kentucky crap with the one and done players.  Time to reinstate the ability to go straight from high school to the pros.  Then if you choose to play in college, you can't get drafted for three years.  Baseball has it right.

As soon as they impose this rule, Calipari moves to the pros and Kentucky doesn't automatically sign a bunch of 5-stars each year who only plan to stay in college for one obligatory year.

Send the players who don't care about education on their way and quit wasting good scholarships on them.

FUNNY.... Do you think Cal would rather not have Anthony Davis or Karl Townes for 3 years...  You have to look back at that post and say did I really say that....  Maybe you would like to hit the powerball, keep the money for 1 year and give it all away....  Didn't everyone want Monk to come to Arkansas, did you think he was staying 4 years and graduating???  Portis left in 2 years and much pride in that guy....

Cal is playing within the NCAA rules and winning more games than anyone else.... MA needs to put the same effort into recruiting, or half the effort.

[ADavisTheGOAT]

So salty.  If you'd have landed Monk then 1 and done wouldn't sound so bad.

gtfoh

[Sharky]

Not sure eliminating one and done would do much. I think the NCAA allows schools to offer all players a standard, reasonable salary on top of their scholarship (maybe 25k/yr), plus profit sharing that goes into a trust for all individualized merchandising (so superstars would get more, but not get that money until they turned age 25), plus offer alternative degrees for what players basically learn anyway: nutrition, coaching, training, media relations, etc. And provide $1 million insurance policy for all players who might have career or life-altering injuries, and let players add on to that insurance policy based on potential future professional earnings.

Per NCAA rules, players don't even have to type their own papers (as though keyboarding is too tough for them these days). Nice to have "tutors." Anyway, just a couple ideas. Not sure what is feasible, but I don't think we can expect players to risk their bodies in college for three years without a benefit greater than our entertainment. It's exploitation.

[elksnort]

Exploitation has a choice.

[LR_Matt]

You just don't like one and dones cuz MA couldn't land one of his job depended on it.... Oh wait, I think it did.

[Sharky]

Exploitation has a choice.

Yeah. I agree. It's a choice, but not a good choice. The D-league is a more difficult route. College get a LOT right now, too, from scholarships to tutors to training to sports psychologists to medical care to travel experiences to media promotions and media connections and alumni connections and special events/awards and much better meals than average students. All of that has value, well into the hundreds of thousands per year. But I guess my point is really that a lot of the players who plan on playing b-ball all their lives don't really care about school, and it's just a side distraction, so just separate it and give them an option to develop in college without losing millions risking injury or endorsements or NBA salary; or maybe let them def their academic scholarship for after they finish their sports career.

If BP and Qualls, for example, were getting money from their jersey sales put into trusts, and making a small salary for all the work they put in, and they had insurance against career-ending or career-reducing injury, then maybe they would have been more likely to stay. For BP, maybe he had a choice to go d-league and get noticed, but a lot of players HAVE to attend college to get the attention they need to be accepted into the next level.

[Deeznutts]

I say good for Kentucky and the one and done rule. It's by the rules. So why get mad? I mean except for cheerleading, they suck nut in everything else. I would never trade places with them. Hell, they choked last year when the entire messed up basketball world was pimping them. Eh, who cares. Kentucky is rib sauce away from Mississippi.

[Karma]

Cal has one NCAA championship at Kentucky.  He won't get one this year so is his system really that successful? Granted, he gets them in the hunt every year, but a team full of juniors and seniors will beat the 1 and done group more often than not.  Truth is, this group at UK is not a young team. Ulis, Willis, Poythrus and Lee are sophomores and juniors.

I hate Kentucky more than any other team, but you can't question that they've been successful since Cal's been there.  One NC and two other final fours would equal the greatest run in the history of our program.

[popcornhog]

I'm so sick of the Kentucky crap with the one and done players.  Time to reinstate the ability to go straight from high school to the pros.  Then if you choose to play in college, you can't get drafted for three years.  Baseball has it right.

As soon as they impose this rule, Calipari moves to the pros and Kentucky doesn't automatically sign a bunch of 5-stars each year who only plan to stay in college for one obligatory year.

Send the players who don't care about education on their way and quit wasting good scholarships on them.

They'd still sign a bunch of the best players not to go pro.

[MountieDawg]

No it would still be ruining the sport of college basketball.  It would still be a slap in the face to the idea behind "student athlete." John Calipari would still be the main cause of the problem. Monk going to Arkansas and being a one and done, wouldn't have changed any of that.

What's it like to root for the dirtiest program in the history of college sports?  Do you feel like you walk around with a grimy film covering your whole body all the time? I would.

Kentucky has the toughest compliance officer of any team in the Country.  Why do you call Kentucky sleazy, is it more sleazy to have your players make money in the NBA or make money with a printing press?

[MB Hog]

FUNNY.... Do you think Cal would rather not have Anthony Davis or Karl Townes for 3 years...  You have to look back at that post and say did I really say that....  Maybe you would like to hit the powerball, keep the money for 1 year and give it all away....  Didn't everyone want Monk to come to Arkansas, did you think he was staying 4 years and graduating???  Portis left in 2 years and much pride in that guy....

Cal is playing within the NCAA rules and winning more games than anyone else.... MA needs to put the same effort into recruiting, or half the effort.

My point is Cal wouldn't have Davis and Townes for 3 years... he would have them for no years because they would go pro.  But if they decided to go to college for at least three years, they might not choose Kentucky since KY would no longer specialize in one and done players.

[MB Hog]

I'll never understand the call to make college basketball a worse sport, played by less talent.

I'd much rather watch a savvy, experienced college team than just throwing several freshman out there every year.  The fun thing about a "team" is getting to know and love your players, and watching them develop over the years.  I imagine LSU is already wondering what next year will look like when they've lost Simmons.  Back to average after one good year, which honestly isn't turning out to be that good of a year anyway.

[Jackrabbit Hog]

Kentucky has the toughest compliance officer of any team in the Country.  Why do you call Kentucky sleazy, is it more sleazy to have your players make money in the NBA or make money with a printing press?

Do you know that compliance officer personally?  Do you work in the department and see first-hand what goes on there?  How in the Hades can you make that statement?  Anybody can put that in their media guide; doesn't make it so.

And I thought you were a Louisville fan..

[MB Hog]

Yeah cause pre one and done being so popular Kentucky just sucked...and so did Duke, UNC, Arizona, UCLA, Kansas, and other blue bloods of college basketball.  Doesn't matter what the rules are some schools are just going to get better talent than others.  You really think a borderline kid who isn't quite NBA ready is going to go to some no name school or going to go to one of the schools I listed above if the rules are changed?  Those schools will just keep on getting whatever the new "tier 1", for lack of better term, talent pool is.   

Where did I say Kentucky would suck?

[S.A.D.C]

I'll never understand the call to make college basketball a worse sport, played by less talent.

"One and done" has NOTHING to do with the NCAA.  The NBA made a rule giving a minimum age for the draft.  The NCAA didn't make the rule, the NBA did.  No one made a "call to make college basketball a worse sport."  It (supposedly) was a decision to make NBA Basketball a better sport and college basketball is collateral damage.  I hate the "one and done" deal as well but it actually isn't the NCAA's fault. 

[MB Hog]

You just don't like one and dones cuz MA couldn't land one of his job depended on it.... Oh wait, I think it did.

I didn't like the one and dones before Monk came along... partially because KY has exploited the situation, but mostly because college basketball has nothing to do with college for these types of players.  You can make the argument that college basketball is their path to the pros like a college education is a student's path to a career, but a great college student doesn't get corporate job offers for making straight A's their freshman year.  Real students are at college for the long haul.

That said, I do understand that athletes can get hurt and miss their big payday, so I'm fine with them leaving after three years... just don't make the idea of college a joke by requiring the player to go one year, but not requiring they go longer than that (should they choose to go).

[MB Hog]

They'd still sign a bunch of the best players not to go pro.

I'd be OK with that.

[majp51]

I'm so sick of the Kentucky crap with the one and done players.  Time to reinstate the ability to go straight from high school to the pros.  Then if you choose to play in college, you can't get drafted for three years.  Baseball has it right.

As soon as they impose this rule, Calipari moves to the pros and Kentucky doesn't automatically sign a bunch of 5-stars each year who only plan to stay in college for one obligatory year.

Send the players who don't care about education on their way and quit wasting good scholarships on them.

Talk to the NBA , the NCAA hates this as much as you do, as it effects their product and they don't sell as well.

[MB Hog]

Talk to the NBA , the NCAA hates this as much as you do, as it effects their product and they don't sell as well.

True.  And if I understand correctly, the rule was originally designed to keep a bunch of high school seniors from making the mistake of going straight to the pros... make them play a year in college to find out if they are really as good as they think before they give up their chance to use their skills to pay for their education.  Problem is, Kentucky is capitalizing on the rule by selling themselves as the place to go if you don't really want to go to school in the first place.  Sure, other schools sign one and dones and benefit from it, but I don't know of any other school that basically builds their recruiting plan around this like Kentucky does.  Honestly, it's KY's brazen mockery of the education side of this that turns my stomach.

And yes, it hurts that much more when they pull in kids from Arkansas like Goodwin and Monk; but when these guys go to Kentucky as a business decision (and nothing to do with education), this should be a slap in the face of every professor who works at the U of K.

[ErieHog]

"One and done" has NOTHING to do with the NCAA.  The NBA made a rule giving a minimum age for the draft.  The NCAA didn't make the rule, the NBA did.  No one made a "call to make college basketball a worse sport."  It (supposedly) was a decision to make NBA Basketball a better sport and college basketball is collateral damage.  I hate the "one and done" deal as well but it actually isn't the NCAA's fault. 

The origin of the rule isn't what I'm talking about.  Any call to exclude the best players from playing the college game, is going to dilute the quality of the college game.     The best talent isn't going to sign on for a multiyear commitment-- the only reason they tolerate the 1 and done environment, is that the lawsuit that they bring is unable to get to court fast enough before becoming moot.

[trippigs]

One and done is terrible for college basketball. At least implement something like college baseball.

[BRHogfan]

One and Dones are fine, but if someone has the ability to instantly play at the highest level of professional sports, they should be able to go instantly. 

I would have no problem, if we had a guy come to Arkansas and improve his stock drastically in one season and then want to go pro.  Congrats, you grew 3" in college, or you had a coach that made you into a human highlight reel by putting you in a real strength program, but having a guy like Karl Anthony Townes or Ben Simmons spend a year showing off their talents and not making money when they could be a starter for an NBA team and make Millions of Dollars right out of high school rubs me the wrong way.

[Rocky&Boarwinkle]

True.  And if I understand correctly, the rule was originally designed to keep a bunch of high school seniors from making the mistake of going straight to the pros... make them play a year in college to find out if they are really as good as they think before they give up their chance to use their skills to pay for their education.  Problem is, Kentucky is capitalizing on the rule by selling themselves as the place to go if you don't really want to go to school in the first place.  Sure, other schools sign one and dones and benefit from it, but I don't know of any other school that basically builds their recruiting plan around this like Kentucky does.  Honestly, it's KY's brazen mockery of the education side of this that turns my stomach.

And yes, it hurts that much more when they pull in kids from Arkansas like Goodwin and Monk; but when these guys go to Kentucky as a business decision (and nothing to do with education), this should be a slap in the face of every professor who works at the U of K.

The fact that their "academic" program utilizes taking the bare minimum of hours, utilizes online courses that are most definitely not on the "difficult" side and that virtually none of the ones that declare put one minute of time into their second semester while finishing the basketball season and prepping for the draft is the reason so many are disgusted by Kentucky.  Other schools get one and dones, but they haven't turned it in to a factory that doesn't even pay lip service to the idea of "education".

[MB Hog]

The fact that their "academic" program utilizes taking the bare minimum of hours, utilizes online courses that are most definitely not on the "difficult" side and that virtually none of the ones that declare put one minute of time into their second semester while finishing the basketball season and prepping for the draft is the reason so many are disgusted by Kentucky.  Other schools get one and dones, but they haven't turned it in to a factory that doesn't even pay lip service to the idea of "education".

Exactly!  Thank you!

[MB Hog]

One and Dones are fine, but if someone has the ability to instantly play at the highest level of professional sports, they should be able to go instantly. 

I would have no problem, if we had a guy come to Arkansas and improve his stock drastically in one season and then want to go pro.  Congrats, you grew 3" in college, or you had a coach that made you into a human highlight reel by putting you in a real strength program, but having a guy like Karl Anthony Townes or Ben Simmons spend a year showing off their talents and not making money when they could be a starter for an NBA team and make Millions of Dollars right out of high school rubs me the wrong way.

I see your point, and I somewhat agree.  Kentucky is the biggest fly in the ointment because they would still sell themselves as the fast track to the NBA without giving much thought to education.  They'd try to get all the borderline "straight-to-the-NBA" players who are on the fence about taking their chances in the draft.

[hogsanity]

True.  And if I understand correctly, the rule was originally designed to keep a bunch of high school seniors from making the mistake of going straight to the pros... make them play a year in college to find out if they are really as good as they think before they give up their chance to use their skills to pay for their education.  Problem is, Kentucky is capitalizing on the rule by selling themselves as the place to go if you don't really want to go to school in the first place.  Sure, other schools sign one and dones and benefit from it, but I don't know of any other school that basically builds their recruiting plan around this like Kentucky does.  Honestly, it's KY's brazen mockery of the education side of this that turns my stomach.

And yes, it hurts that much more when they pull in kids from Arkansas like Goodwin and Monk; but when these guys go to Kentucky as a business decision (and nothing to do with education), this should be a slap in the face of every professor who works at the U of K.

The rule was put in the nba to protect older guys on rosters who were losing jobs to high paid HS kids who more often than not turned out to be flops, but team after team would pick them up due to their young age. They'd get drafted at 18, a team would decide after two years their was nothing there and cut them, so someone would take a flyer on them, then at 22 or 23 they were cut again, but 23 with 4 years "experience" was still preferable to drafting a 22 or 23 yr old college sr and having to teach him the "nba" game.

ALL the stuff about academics was lip service, the nba players union pushed this rule, and the owners were fine because they really did not like having to pay 18 yr old kids what they were, but they could not not draft them either.

[20gauge]

FUNNY.... Do you think Cal would rather not have Anthony Davis or Karl Townes for 3 years...  You have to look back at that post and say did I really say that....  Maybe you would like to hit the powerball, keep the money for 1 year and give it all away....  Didn't everyone want Monk to come to Arkansas, did you think he was staying 4 years and graduating???  Portis left in 2 years and much pride in that guy....

Cal is playing within the NCAA rules and winning more games than anyone else.... MA needs to put the same effort into recruiting, or half the effort.

The point is that the two players you mentioned woul dhave been in the NBA instead of at Kentucky. So cal wouldnt have had them for 3 years. But if they had enrolled in college, yes you have to face them 3 years in a row but everyone else has a chance at teh next crop of talent becasue the kentucky roster is full for 3 years.

[BRHogfan]

The rule was put in the nba to protect older guys on rosters who were losing jobs to high paid HS kids who more often than not turned out to be flops, but team after team would pick them up due to their young age. They'd get drafted at 18, a team would decide after two years their was nothing there and cut them, so someone would take a flyer on them, then at 22 or 23 they were cut again, but 23 with 4 years "experience" was still preferable to drafting a 22 or 23 yr old college sr and having to teach him the "nba" game.

ALL the stuff about academics was lip service, the nba players union pushed this rule, and the owners were fine because they really did not like having to pay 18 yr old kids what they were, but they could not not draft them either.

Well, now with the D-League and Summer League, they have a much better opportunity to develop players.  The only option for kids that are ready to get paid shouldn't be Europe.

[hogsanity]

Well, now with the D-League and Summer League, they have a much better opportunity to develop players.  The only option for kids that are ready to get paid shouldn't be Europe.

Oh, I fully hate all the rules on draft ages in any sport. If a kid is good enough to play and get paid, age should not restrict them. I like the MLB rule, either come out right out of HS or you have to wait 3 seasons.

[Hoggish1]

There's a better chance of getting rid of Citizen's United....  But, I agree 100%!

[ErieHog]

I don't think it would be played worse. 

A talented 3yr college player will likely be just as productive if not more-so than an uber-talented freshman still finding his way on a college team.

Maybe more importantly - it would be interesting to see just how many of the current one and dones would be really and truly ready for the NBA straight out of HS compared to what they get now w/ a year of NCAA seasoning. 
There likely would still be a good # of top HS players entering college ball, and they would have 3 years to better the college game. 

Except we know that's not the case, because of math.   The problem boils down to this--   every year sees a class replaced.    If you reduce the output of one-and-dones, it doesn't magically make the bottom of the barrel better-- what it does, is elevates everyone else in the pecking order.

For the sake of simplicity, what you are effectively  excluding is the top 1% of every class--  and when you exclude that, it isn't like what would constitute the 99th or 98th percentile of play would magically materialize to improve the college game--  because those kids would still be playing if the talent pool were smaller.

What you are doing, is creating more available play slots, to be filled up at the bottom end, rather than the top-- meaning the most marginal players would see the biggest uptick in play. 

To put it more succinctly- you aren't replacing the contributions a Ben Simmons with no experience with a 4 year starter with robust talent that-- you are replacing him with walk-ons that now have extra playing time, because there is more space in the talent pool on the bottom end.

[Inhogswetrust]

I'll never understand the call to make college basketball a worse sport, played by less talent.

The one and done wasn't done by the NCAA. It was an offshoot of the NBA collective bargaining agreement. That being said having the one and done is worse than the old way of going directly out of high school for those that really don't want to go to college anyway IMHO. I don't think the overall college game would be any worse with the one and done's not playing in college at all.

[Hoggish1]

Not at the rate they are now.  They lure those kids there with the idea that they are better off at Kentucky for their one year than they would be other places. 

This is how special it is to be there for a year...
See the UK player dorm unveiled in September | Lexington Herald-Leader

http://www.kentucky.com/sports/college/kentucky-sports/uk-basketball-men/article43934145.html

[Jackrabbit Hog]

This is how special it is to be there for a year...
See the UK player dorm unveiled in September | Lexington Herald-Leader

http://www.kentucky.com/sports/college/kentucky-sports/uk-basketball-men/article43934145.html

I'm sorry, but I thought players only dorms were outlawed years ago.

Also, you gotta love how they have Enes Kanter on their wall of players in the NBA.  Dude never played a game for them because he was ineligible from the start.

[Hoggish1]

Kentucky has the toughest compliance officer of any team in the Country. 

Forget about the compliance officer BS.  This is what they have for one year, while they don't go to class and take all their courses on line with a tutor (you think the tutor is helping them, maybe doing all the work on line for them...?

Who would know?  Who would care?

Kentucky's basketball players have new ridiculous luxury housing including private chef, flat-screen TVs (Pictures) | Larry Brown Sports

http://larrybrownsports.com/college-basketball/kentuckys-housing-chef-flat-screens/153247

[Hoggish1]

I'm sorry, but I thought players only dorms were outlawed years ago.

Also, you gotta love how they have Enes Kanter on their wall of players in the NBA.  Dude never played a game for them because he was ineligible from the start.

They were but this dorm holds 32 and is also open to 16 of the luckiest kids you'll ever find among the general student body! LMAO

Otherwise, you are right.

[Jackrabbit Hog]

They were but this dorm holds 32 and is also open to 16 of the luckiest kids cutest amorous coeds you'll ever find among the general student body! LMAO

Otherwise, you are right.

FIFY.

[Hoggish1]

FIFY.

LMAO
Amorous coeds can only be found at Olepiss..

[MB Hog]

Except we know that's not the case, because of math.   The problem boils down to this--   every year sees a class replaced.    If you reduce the output of one-and-dones, it doesn't magically make the bottom of the barrel better-- what it does, is elevates everyone else in the pecking order.

For the sake of simplicity, what you are effectively  excluding is the top 1% of every class--  and when you exclude that, it isn't like what would constitute the 99th or 98th percentile of play would magically materialize to improve the college game--  because those kids would still be playing if the talent pool were smaller.

What you are doing, is creating more available play slots, to be filled up at the bottom end, rather than the top-- meaning the most marginal players would see the biggest uptick in play. 

To put it more succinctly- you aren't replacing the contributions a Ben Simmons with no experience with a 4 year starter with robust talent that-- you are replacing him with walk-ons that now have extra playing time, because there is more space in the talent pool on the bottom end.

I see your logic, but can't agree.  Yes, there is an extra slot at the end of the bench if a one-and-done gets to go straight to the NBA, but there is also more PT for the guy who would have been behind him.  Look at Moses and Bell... Portis and Qualls left and we wondered where the offense would come from.  Turns out it was just here waiting its turn.

Yes, these guys got experience practicing against P & Q, but we also would have no idea how good they really are if those other guys didn't leave.  Portis would still play ahead of Moses.  Qualls would still play more than Bell and would take more of the shots.  The fact they are gone gave us a chance to see how much Moses and Bell have developed.

Similar situation with letting a one-and-done go straight to the NBA.  Whoever would have been behind him would get more PT and develop into a team leader faster.  Would they be a better talent than the one-and-done?  Not likely in year one, but by year three, maybe so... and with much more game savvy.

Once you wean out the one-and-dones, it wouldn't take long to see the level of college basketball as high or higher than it is with them because you will have rosters full of experienced players who have learned to become leaders for their teams.

[Danny J]

NBA is not going to remove the 1 year rule....it simply benefits them the way it is. Only thing that can be done to try and spread out the talent is to make changes to the APR requirements that penalizes programs for guys that jump ship after one year to go pro whether it be NBA or overseas.

Honestly though...I think the biggest problem I see is the way games are being called. Seems like games turn into FT shooting contests and it is not just in the SEC but all over the country. No flow or rhythm. Just my $.02

[ErieHog]

I see your logic, but can't agree.  Yes, there is an extra slot at the end of the bench if a one-and-done gets to go straight to the NBA, but there is also more PT for the guy who would have been behind him.  Look at Moses and Bell... Portis and Qualls left and we wondered where the offense would come from.  Turns out it was just here waiting its turn.

Yes, these guys got experience practicing against P & Q, but we also would have no idea how good they really are if those other guys didn't leave.  Portis would still play ahead of Moses.  Qualls would still play more than Bell and would take more of the shots.  The fact they are gone gave us a chance to see how much Moses and Bell have developed.

Similar situation with letting a one-and-done go straight to the NBA.  Whoever would have been behind him would get more PT and develop into a team leader faster.  Would they be a better talent than the one-and-done?  Not likely in year one, but by year three, maybe so... and with much more game savvy.

Once you wean out the one-and-dones, it wouldn't take long to see the level of college basketball as high or higher than it is with them because you will have rosters full of experienced players who have learned to become leaders for their teams.

The problem with your position is that there is a diminishing rate of return issue;  it isn't like the other top half players aren't occupying huge minutes numbers already-- the optimization that you can hope to see there is necessarily limited.

The quality of college basketball plummets when the best players leave or don't participate at all-- that is at the heart of the decline of college basketball, not the one and done model.

Eliminating it, and forcing the best players out of the college game would be terrible.

[UKChamps]

The fact that their "academic" program utilizes taking the bare minimum of hours, utilizes online courses that are most definitely not on the "difficult" side and that virtually none of the ones that declare put one minute of time into their second semester while finishing the basketball season and prepping for the draft is the reason so many are disgusted by Kentucky.  Other schools get one and dones, but they haven't turned it in to a factory that doesn't even pay lip service to the idea of "education".

References for these accusations or did you get your diploma at Kinkos?