Russell Shepard commits to....

[Tomhog™]

LSU as many expected.

EDIT - YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST!

[Monk-N-Dunk]

wow that fb656 or whatever was actually right about something...

[Tomhog™]

It took Les Miles by surprise that he pulled the trigger so quick.

[SquidBilly]

Why?  He figures to come in and get playing time right away and LSU under Miles is a school where apparently you can do just about anything and remain on the team.

[tigerLSU]

Why?  He figures to come in and get playing time right away and LSU under Miles is a school where apparently you can do just about anything and remain on the team.

as long as you win NCs

[COCHISE]

It took Les Miles by surprise that he pulled the trigger so quick.

I could see this kid becoming the Willie Warren of college football recruiting.

[Tammany Tom]

Why?  He figures to come in and get playing time right away and LSU under Miles is a school where apparently you can do just about anything and remain on the team.

What exactly is that supposed to mean? Miles has kicked off several players in the past 3 years. Discipline of players is the one thing that Miles has done a better job than Saban did at LSU.   

Oh, you mean Ryan Perrilloux. What has RP exactly done that warrants getting kicked off the team?

Let's go over RP's "rap sheet". He was interviewed by the Feds as a witness to a counterfeit ring in his home town of Reserve.  He was arrested for using his older brother's drivers license to get into a casino. He was interviewed by BR police after a fight broke out in a BR club. Video cameras at the club confirmed that RP was not involved in the fight. RP missed 3 classes and a team meeting this winter. 

So........the biggest law broken by RP is that he used his brother's ID to get into a Baton Rouge casino.

Why would you or anyone else for that matter even approach this subject? How many Arkansas players broke laws and were only given minor suspensions? You really need to remember the term "glass houses". Stuff happens with kids at every school including yours, so don't go throwing rocks when your house is built with glass just like everyone elses. (btw, go look at all the crap going on at Bama if you want to play this little game of yours).

[UltimateHog]

As long as we continue to whip their arse who cares.

[SquidBilly]

What exactly is that supposed to mean? Miles has kicked off several players in the past 3 years. Discipline of players is the one thing that Miles has done a better job than Saban did at LSU.  

Oh, you mean Ryan Perrilloux. What has RP exactly done that warrants getting kicked off the team?

Let's go over RP's "rap sheet". He was interviewed by the Feds as a witness to a counterfeit ring in his home town of Reserve.  He was arrested for using his older brother's drivers license to get into a casino. He was interviewed by BR police after a fight broke out in a BR club. Video cameras at the club confirmed that RP was not involved in the fight. RP missed 3 classes and a team meeting this winter. 

So........the biggest law broken by RP is that he used his brother's ID to get into a Baton Rouge casino.

Why would you or anyone else for that matter even approach this subject? How many Arkansas players broke laws and were only given minor suspensions? You really need to remember the term "glass houses". Stuff happens with kids at every school including yours, so don't go throwing rocks when your house is built with glass just like everyone elses. (btw, go look at all the crap going on at Bama if you want to play this little game of yours).

Easy there homer.  Stuff does happen at every school and your right a lot has happened at Alabama lately.  Using other schools issues to justify your own doesn't really cut it with me though.  You talk about being a Feds witness as something not too severe.  How many of us have ever had that good fortune.  He apparently was involved enough in that situation that he could be a witness.  Your right each incident on it's own may not be enough but put them all together and a lot of schools would be done with him.  I suspect if Miles had done a better job of recruiting QBs other than perilloux then he would be off the team right now. 

[kclvr]

Has AR ever kicked anyone off the team? I know that several have missed the first game.

[Seebs]

What exactly is that supposed to mean? Miles has kicked off several players in the past 3 years. Discipline of players is the one thing that Miles has done a better job than Saban did at LSU.  

Oh, you mean Ryan Perrilloux. What has RP exactly done that warrants getting kicked off the team?

Let's go over RP's "rap sheet". He was interviewed by the Feds as a witness to a counterfeit ring in his home town of Reserve.  He was arrested for using his older brother's drivers license to get into a casino. He was interviewed by BR police after a fight broke out in a BR club. Video cameras at the club confirmed that RP was not involved in the fight. RP missed 3 classes and a team meeting this winter. 

So........the biggest law broken by RP is that he used his brother's ID to get into a Baton Rouge casino.

Why would you or anyone else for that matter even approach this subject? How many Arkansas players broke laws and were only given minor suspensions? You really need to remember the term "glass houses". Stuff happens with kids at every school including yours, so don't go throwing rocks when your house is built with glass just like everyone elses. (btw, go look at all the crap going on at Bama if you want to play this little game of yours).

I do enjoy your responses. Facts tend to castrate the debate.

[Hogginitall]

as long as you win NCs

And lose to Arkansas.

[SquidBilly]

I do enjoy your responses. Facts tend to castrate the debate.

Has AR ever kicked anyone off the team? I know that several have missed the first game.

There have been a couple but there names escape me right now.  Someone on here can probably come up with the names.  We have had a couple pretty serious incidents the past couple of years with a couple of DL where TCTWF probably didn't discipline them enough.  That was always my biggest problem with TCTWF is his inconsistencies with his ethics.  The public perception he put forth was that he was a righteous guy but the guys here on Hogville weren't fooled and spent the last two years ridding our program of that cancer.  I don't think discipline will be a problem with Petrino.

[Hawgvillain]

Has AR ever kicked anyone off the team? I know that several have missed the first game.

How about Jermaine Brooks?

[kimjongsqUeAl]

What exactly is that supposed to mean? Miles has kicked off several players in the past 3 years. Discipline of players is the one thing that Miles has done a better job than Saban did at LSU.  

Oh, you mean Ryan Perrilloux. What has RP exactly done that warrants getting kicked off the team?

Let's go over RP's "rap sheet". He was interviewed by the Feds as a witness to a counterfeit ring in his home town of Reserve.  He was arrested for using his older brother's drivers license to get into a casino. He was interviewed by BR police after a fight broke out in a BR club. Video cameras at the club confirmed that RP was not involved in the fight. RP missed 3 classes and a team meeting this winter. 

So........the biggest law broken by RP is that he used his brother's ID to get into a Baton Rouge casino.

Why would you or anyone else for that matter even approach this subject? How many Arkansas players broke laws and were only given minor suspensions? You really need to remember the term "glass houses". Stuff happens with kids at every school including yours, so don't go throwing rocks when your house is built with glass just like everyone elses. (btw, go look at all the crap going on at Bama if you want to play this little game of yours).

.

[kclvr]

Louisville people claim BP tends to look the other way alot.  Just saying what has been reported in the past.  Time will tell i guess and we want have to defend our players if he takes care of business.

[FBPLAYER65]

There have been a couple but there names escape me right now.  Someone on here can probably come up with the names.  We have had a couple pretty serious incidents the past couple of years with a couple of DL where TCTWF probably didn't discipline them enough.  That was always my biggest problem with TCTWF is his inconsistencies with his ethics.  The public perception he put forth was that he was a righteous guy but the guys here on Hogville weren't fooled and spent the last two years ridding our program of that cancer.  I don't think discipline will be a problem with Petrino.

Jermaine Brooks, John Jackson, Mark Pierce, and several others.

[returntoglory]

when did he commit to lsu? i dont remember reading anything on here about it.

[SMOKE]

late last night, i live in Baton Rouge..........

[returntoglory]

this is bad news

[Tammany Tom]

Easy there homer.  Stuff does happen at every school and your right a lot has happened at Alabama lately.  Using other schools issues to justify your own doesn't really cut it with me though.  You talk about being a Feds witness as something not too severe.  How many of us have ever had that good fortune.  He apparently was involved enough in that situation that he could be a witness.  Your right each incident on it's own may not be enough but put them all together and a lot of schools would be done with him.  I suspect if Miles had done a better job of recruiting QBs other than perilloux then he would be off the team right now. 

One. I'm not justifying any of RP's actions. He is a very immature kid who needs to understand his current status and great opportunity at hand. He is seriously about to blow the opportunity of a lifetime. He needs to get his act together right now.

Two. I was merely pointing out that any fan of any school should not throw stones at any school for misbehavior by football players. It happens all the time at every school and happened at Arkansas several times the last 10 years. Miles has dealt with discipline quite well since he's been here.

Three. Our current QB situation while not as great as we would like is not that bad either. We have Jarrett Lee, an elite eleven QB coming off his freshman red shirt year. From all accounts he is a very mature, intelligent, strong and accurate armed QB that can be very good for LSU. We signed the Louisiana Player of the Year in Jordan Jefferson, who is a 4 star QB that was sensational in high school. And...we just received the commitment from 5 star Russell Shepard of Houston. QB play for the future seems to be in very, very good hands.

Four. Our strength of the team next year is our O-line and running backs. We have 4 of 5 starters returning on the O-line and have 3 RB's with more talent than that of Hester. These strengths will allow a young QB to develop without all the pressure being placed on his shoulders if RP is unable to play.

[Beaverfever]

LSU as many expected.

EDIT - YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST!

Actually some guy about a week ago said that and everyone laughed.

[Tomhog™]

Actually some guy about a week ago said that and everyone laughed.

Because it wasn't true.

[Beaverfever]

Apparently he knew something.

[Tomhog™]

Apparently he knew something.

He knew he had a great time and was very close to committing as I did.  Yet he didn't truly commit until last night. 

[Swino]

Ummm, who again is this guy?

[southeasthog]

"Two. I was merely pointing out that any fan of any school should not throw stones at any school for misbehavior by football players. It happens all the time at every school and happened at Arkansas several times the last 10 years. Miles has dealt with discipline quite well since he's been here."

The problem with this statement is that this is a RAZORBACK message board. That is what happens here. It would be a different story if he went to a LSU board and posted his statement.

[FBPLAYER65]

We never had a shot at Sheppard.

[Tammany Tom]

The problem with this statement is that this is a RAZORBACK message board. That is what happens here. It would be a different story if he went to a LSU board and posted his statement.

There is nothing wrong with my statement. I fully realize that this is a Razorback message board, therefore I am very courteous and maintain good manners on this board. However, the Arkansas Razorbacks are not in a bottle and exist all by themselves. They are in a conference with other member schools. Things that transpire, regardless by whichever school, usually affect the member schools of the SEC. That is why this thread was started in the first place. Because what occurs at LSU affects Arkansas and visa versa. We are all interested in what happens at each other's schools especially between the western SEC schools.

I merely pointed out that I wouldn't be so quick to throw stones at another member school because of wrongdoings or poor choices by members of that school when these actions are a common occurance at every SEC school with the exception of Vanderbilt.

Every now and then someone like yourself has to point out to me that this is an Arkansas board. I always comment back that on most SEC boards it is very commonplace for fans of other schools to post regularly on each other's boards. This is a very good board with very good posters, but it would be even better with more fans from other schools posting on it.

At the end of the day, we are all fans of college sports and in particular SEC football. We all love to discuss sports with others that enjoy discussing it as well. Our states are divided by an imaginary line. The only primary difference between us is that you root for one school and I root for another one. We are all fans of football or we wouldn't be on these message boards sharing information with each other. I am just like you (a fan of college football and trying to enjoy the spare time that I get from time to time).

[southeasthog]

There is nothing wrong with my statement. I fully realize that this is a Razorback message board, therefore I am very courteous and maintain good manners on this board. However, the Arkansas Razorbacks are not in a bottle and exist all by themselves. They are in a conference with other member schools. Things that transpire, regardless by whichever school, usually affect the member schools of the SEC. That is why this thread was started in the first place. Because what occurs at LSU affects Arkansas and visa versa. We are all interested in what happens at each other's schools especially between the western SEC schools.

I merely pointed out that I wouldn't be so quick to throw stones at another member school because of wrongdoings or poor choices by members of that school when these actions are a common occurance at every SEC school with the exception of Vanderbilt.

Every now and then someone like yourself has to point out to me that this is an Arkansas board. I always comment back that on most SEC boards it is very commonplace for fans of other schools to post regularly on each other's boards. This is a very good board with very good posters, but it would be even better with more fans from other schools posting on it.

At the end of the day, we are all fans of college sports and in particular SEC football. We all love to discuss sports with others that enjoy discussing it as well. Our states are divided by an imaginary line. The only primary difference between us is that you root for one school and I root for another one. We are all fans of football or we wouldn't be on these message boards sharing information with each other. I am just like you (a fan of college football and trying to enjoy the spare time that I get from time to time).

+1 and all true. But, you shouldn't get your panties in a wad (just a fiqure of speech and not meant with disrespect) when someone on a rival messageboard says something slanderous about your team. I agree that you a extremely couteous on here. (except when someone says we stole a recruit from LSU. Then all of the sudden, y'all didn't offer them. lol) You bring a good insight from the LSU standpoint and I appreciate the way you conduct yourself.

[jrmemphishog]

We kicked Nutt off the team for being a loser.

[swoopeshog]

Tammany Tom---thanks for your comments.  Whether or not we or I agree you are always insightful.

[Desperate Hog]

Tammany Tam is probably the most objective poster from any SEC school that comes on this board.  And very knowledgeable on LSU and other SEC teams.  Thanks for your information.  We still love beating you though in any sport!!

[wholehog92]

Tammany, if all LSU fans were as respectful and well spoken and fact armed as you are, LSU would be my second favorite team.  Congrats on the commit from a good prospect.  I hope we steal him from you!  I'm sorry some of our posters had a few sour grapes over it and threw out some unfortunate issues with a young man to try to feed the sour grapes to others.  FWIW, if I was an LSU fan, I would be all for starting the RS freshman over Periloueughxuwahadg.  You don't want that attitude to get started in the locker room.  Allow the troubled young man to go somewhere he's out of the spotlight before he does get into serious trouble as that is clearly the track he's on.

[mj4president]

Wait, I thought he was supposed to be a Texas lock???

[Tomhog™]

Wait, I thought he was supposed to be a Texas lock???

Texas won't offer as a QB.

[Hawgballz]

Texas won't offer as a QB.

Exactly

[tigerLSU]

i have not seen anyone run like that since VY
http://youtube.com/watch?v=I2Zqqz1zSZs

The dude is a stud, many LSu fans think he'll be a WR or DB..iMO he'll make an excellent QB

[Tammany Tom]

+1 and all true. But, you shouldn't get your panties in a wad (just a fiqure of speech and not meant with disrespect) when someone on a rival messageboard says something slanderous about your team. I agree that you a extremely couteous on here. (except when someone says we stole a recruit from LSU. Then all of the sudden, y'all didn't offer them. lol) You bring a good insight from the LSU standpoint and I appreciate the way you conduct yourself.

I appreciate your comments and every one's comments. I comment on your board for two reasons. 1. Because I like it and 2. Because I like to discuss things with others with a completely different view of my own. I post on a LSU board, but it is not nearly as much fun as posting on another team's board.

I want to take a minute or two to discuss the whole "stealing a recruit" thing.

The reason I like recruiting so much is because it makes you play a little detective trying to diseminate good information from bad information. The reason why there are so many questions and arguments as to who "offered" who is because if you only follow recruiting from the recruits standpoint you don't get accurate information. The recruiting services can only print what recruits and recruit's families tell them. The schools can never go on record with any information concerning any recruit by NCAA rules.

So when a recruit tells them (Rivals or Scout) that so and so school offered them they have to take that recruits word for it. Some local Rivals or Scout services have very good connections with their local school and can verify with an "inside" source if the information is truthful or not. Sometimes they don't check fully with the school.

I'll give you a real good reason why a lot of kids tell services that they have an "offer" from a school when in fact it is not a "commmitable" offer. Here is a few sentences from an official LSU offer letter:

-----------------

Dear John Smith,

We believe you are one of the best players in the country. As the head football coach of the LSU Tigers, I am offering you a full athletic scholarship.

The NCAA limits the number of scholarships each school may give, so this offer is subject to availabilty and other variables including NCAA Clearinghouse eligibility, admission to the University, and the ongoing evaluation process that all universities conduct.
-----------------

A recruit receives this written offer and immediately informs Rivals, Scout, and everyone within hearing distance that they have been "offered a football scholarship" to LSU.

In reality this "offer" is subject to two primary variables:

1. The recruit must meet academic requirements.
2. There are other recruits currently higher on the LSU recruiting board.  The coaching staff tells the player that they want to evaluate that recruit further. In truth they are holding out for a recruit that is higher on their board.

An offer is only truly "commitable" when the coaching staff offers in writing the full financial aid package that comes with an "official" offer.

When any recruit calls the coaching staff in an attempt to commit, the coaching staff will either accept the commitment and offer full financial aid in the form of an athletic scholarship or not accept their commitment. Whenever the school doesn't accept the recruits' commitment the recruit is not going to go public with that fact. They will tell the recruiting services that they eliminated that school. The school is forbidden by NCAA rules to go public with any information concerning a recruit's status.

Again, some local Rivals or Scout services confirm with their "inside" sources at the school on what was the "real" truth and some just take the recruits word for it. 

It is difficult for the mass public to know what really happened. If you follow a particular school's recruiting extremely closely you can discern what is more factual than if you only follow it casually. 

This is why there is a disagreement between us on whether or not certain recruits actually received an offer or not.

[Tomhog™]

I appreciate your comments and every one's comments. I comment on your board for two reasons. 1. Because I like it and 2. Because I like to discuss things with others with a completely different view of my own. I post on a LSU board, but it is not nearly as much fun as posting on another team's board.

I want to take a minute or two to discuss the whole "stealing a recruit" thing.

The reason I like recruiting so much is because it makes you play a little detective trying to diseminate good information from bad information. The reason why there are so many questions and arguments as to who "offered" who is because if you only follow recruiting from the recruits standpoint you don't get accurate information. The recruiting services can only print what recruits and recruit's families tell them. The schools can never go on record with any information concerning any recruit by NCAA rules.

So when a recruit tells them (Rivals or Scout) that so and so school offered them they have to take that recruits word for it. Some local Rivals or Scout services have very good connections with their local school and can verify with an "inside" source if the information is truthful or not. Sometimes they don't check fully with the school.

I'll give you a real good reason why a lot of kids tell services that they have an "offer" from a school when in fact it is not a "commmitable" offer. Here is a few sentences from an official LSU offer letter:

-----------------

Dear John Smith,

We believe you are one of the best players in the country. As the head football coach of the LSU Tigers, I am offering you a full athletic scholarship.

The NCAA limits the number of scholarships each school may give, so this offer is subject to availabilty and other variables including NCAA Clearinghouse eligibility, admission to the University, and the ongoing evaluation process that all universities conduct.
-----------------

A recruit receives this written offer and immediately informs Rivals, Scout, and everyone within hearing distance that they have been "offered a football scholarship" to LSU.

In reality this "offer" is subject to two primary variables:

1. The recruit must meet academic requirements.
2. There are other recruits currently higher on the LSU recruiting board.  The coaching staff tells the player that they want to evaluate that recruit further. In truth they are holding out for a recruit that is higher on their board.

An offer is only truly "commitable" when the coaching staff offers in writing the full financial aid package that comes with an "official" offer.

When any recruit calls the coaching staff in an attempt to commit, the coaching staff will either accept the commitment and offer full financial aid in the form of an athletic scholarship or not accept their commitment. Whenever the school doesn't accept the recruits' commitment the recruit is not going to go public with that fact. They will tell the recruiting services that they eliminated that school. The school is forbidden by NCAA rules to go public with any information concerning a recruit's status.

Again, some local Rivals or Scout services confirm with their "inside" sources at the school on what was the "real" truth and some just take the recruits word for it. 

It is difficult for the mass public to know what really happened. If you follow a particular school's recruiting extremely closely you can discern what is more factual than if you only follow it casually. 

This is why there is a disagreement between us on whether or not certain recruits actually received an offer or not.

Thanks for sharing that.  You are so right about the rules and how you must be a "detective" to disemenate the information. 

[wooly]

Jermaine Brooks, John Jackson, Mark Pierce, and several others.

When I was at Fayetteville 91-95, someone was dismissed for messing with a minor.