Warning...Tennessee Cheats

[chiefsfan]

Womens game tonight.  Rutgers is leading Tennesse by 1 in Knoxville.   The Clock is running out and Tennessee has the ball.   They take a shot, and it misses, and the ball bounces free on the rebound as the clock hits 1 second left.   A Tennessee player corrals the ball and you think they dont have time to do anything.  But magically a foul is called with 0.2 seconds left and Tennessee makes 2 free throws to win the game

You see.   The clock instead of ticking down to a complete :00  somehow managed to stop on its own with 0.2 seconds left, a good second or 2 before the refs even blow the whistle for the foull.   The "Glitch" Was considered accidental and Tennesse was declared victors

[Beaverfever]

IMO tennessee should have to forfeit the game.  THEIR clock keeper messed up and it won them the game.  They should have to forfeit.

[RedSatinHog]

Similar thing happened a few years back in the regional finals of the NCAA Women's tourney between the Lady Vols and Baylor.  Just ask Kim Mulkey and watch her face get red talking about it.

[chiefsfan]

It needs to be mentioned on the Tennessee board.   Anytime it gets brought up...someone attacks the poster that brings it up saying Rutgers deserved what they got

[DaveV]

You said the time keeper stopped the clock at .2 before the whistle...

Correct me if i'm wrong but I thought the refs whistles were hooked up to a device to stop the clock when the whistle is blown? There is not a timekeeper anymore.

I know it's that way for men, surely it is for women to since it is installed in the arena.

[3kgthog]

That was pretty awful. It didn't even take the refs long after reviewing the tape to say, "You betcha she got fouled with .2 seconds left!"

[Beaverfever]

Whether there is an actual time keeper or not it was tennessee's clock and they should be responsible.

[chiefsfan]

You said the time keeper stopped the clock at .2 before the whistle...

Correct me if i'm wrong but I thought the refs whistles were hooked up to a device to stop the clock when the whistle is blown? There is not a timekeeper anymore.

I know it's that way for men, surely it is for women to since it is installed in the arena.

I dont know about that, but sports center just showed it and the clock clearly stopped well before the whistle with .2 seconds left

[mathhog]

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[HogFansReunited]

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After watching the video, the clock stopped well before she was fouled.  Wow is all I can say.

[phadedhawg]

My gosh!!!  That was awful. 

I don't see how this could be a "glitch".  The clock didn't magically stop by itself.  Why would the clock keeper be anticipating a whistle anyhow. 

If more time was meant to be put back on the clock the refs would have handled it by review.

This was CHEATING!!!

[DaveV]

THERE IS NO CLOCK KEEPER, FOR THE SECOND TIME.

Refs wear a device that stops the clock when they blow their whistle. What happened was that one of the back refs (Probably a Tenn fan) blew their whistle before the clock ran out anticipating a foul so that Tenn could get their free throws.

Complete bullchit. How sweet would a Rutgers Tenn NCAA Tourney rematch be?! I might actually watch that (prob still not).

[spit]

if that was men's game, how would Pel react?  see the expressions on his face now..

[rljjr]

Who was officiating? Imus?

[razorback903]

It needs to be mentioned on the Tennessee board.   Anytime it gets brought up...someone attacks the poster that brings it up saying Rutgers deserved what they got

Don Imus posts on the Tennessee board

[DeltaBoy]

Nothing like HOME Court advantage!

[ALLVOL]

Let me guess. If UT wins Wed it will be due to cheating?

[cityhog]

Let me guess. If UT wins Wed it will be due to cheating?

If it happens the way the Lady Vols beat Rutgers, then YES!

[ALLVOL]

If it happens the way the Lady Vols beat Rutgers, then YES!

Who made the call? The officials or UT? They had the ability to look at the replay. Besides that game means nothing to the one coming up. It just looks like some are making excuses already.

[cityhog]

Who made the call? The officials or UT? They had the ability to look at the replay. Besides that game means nothing to the one coming up. It just looks like some are making excuses already.

Lighten up Francis.  We all know home cooking by the refs is a way of life in the SEC.  We have benefited from it at times as well.  Here's to breaking your home court winning streak.  AGAIN!

[djgaffer]

THERE IS NO CLOCK KEEPER, FOR THE SECOND TIME.

Refs wear a device that stops the clock when they blow their whistle. What happened was that one of the back refs (Probably a Tenn fan) blew their whistle before the clock ran out anticipating a foul so that Tenn could get their free throws.

Complete bullchit. How sweet would a Rutgers Tenn NCAA Tourney rematch be?! I might actually watch that (prob still not).

You are both right and wrong.  The Precision timer is the device that the officials have that effectively runs the clock.  The whistles stop the clock and they have a button on their battery packs that start it. 

However, there is still a clock keeper.  At But Walton, the timer is also the person in charge of the horn.  They are used essentially as backup for the precision timer, but you also have full control to start and stop the clock on your own.  The timer is educated to both start and stop the clock a fraction of a second slow so that the officials run the game on the floor.

The precision timer isn't perfect.  If an official is talking to a player with the whistle in his mouth, or if they just happen to breathe too hard into the whistle, it can stop the clock.  And occasionally the whistle will not stop the clock, a battery pack goes bad, etc.  That's why you still have the timer.

I don't know what happened in Tennessee, but there are a lot of other options than cheating.

[dchoss]

looks to me like the girl was fouled with time left in the game.

[DeltaBoy]

This Hogville not ScarletKnightville!  Why are we hollering when a fellow SEC member got a good win?

[Hogginitall]

looks to me like the girl was fouled with time left in the game.

There was only time left in the game because the clock stopped for a full second at 0.2 seconds.  Pure crap.  Horrible officiating.

[Hogginitall]

oh well its over.   there were alot of bad calls in that game that went against Tennessee.   Rutgers did get what they deserve.    the Rutgers coach is a whiner with the little remark about there needing to be a quetion mark next to this win.  Would she be talking this way if the situation was reversed?   No she wouldnt.

Doesn't change the fact that what happened was wrong.  Between that call and the one at the end of the GU/Villanova game, it was a bad night for officials.  They were horrible.

[Hogginitall]

no it doesnt change a thing, but if Rutgers would have taken care of business it would not have mattered or camedown to that.    You dont foul anyone like that during a close game like that....

I agree.  But technically, it should've been after time expired.  I don't really care.  It's women's basketball.  I just happened to see the end of that game and thought Rutgers got screwed.  Same with Villanova.

[Hogginitall]

i get what your saying.  the Rutgers girl shouldnt have put her team in that situation with the foul, especially on the road like that.    i didnt see the Villanova/GU game so I dotn know how that one ended....

They called a touch foul on Villanova with 0.1 second left and the Georgetown player was 80 feet from the basket.  Absolutely horrendous.  The game was tied at 53 and should've gone to overtime.  Instead, the GU player hits his free throws and the game is over.

[Pigdiana Jones]

Who was officiating? Imus?

HAHAHA!!!

[MDH]

They called a touch foul on Villanova with 0.1 second left and the Georgetown player was 80 feet from the basket.  Absolutely horrendous.  The game was tied at 53 and should've gone to overtime.  Instead, the GU player hits his free throws and the game is over.

The Nova call was far worse than what happened to Rutgers, IMO.  At least they were in the vincinity of the basket in the Women's game.

[Hawgon]

i get what your saying.  the Rutgers girl shouldnt have put her team in that situation with the foul, especially on the road like that.    i didnt see the Villanova/GU game so I dotn know how that one ended....

Well, with the clock stopping like that, if she hadn't been fouled, she probably would have hit the game winning shot.

[justin2000m80]

I dont know who's fault it was but I saw it and it was horrible. 

[Maverick Razorback]

THERE IS NO CLOCK KEEPER, FOR THE SECOND TIME.

Refs wear a device that stops the clock when they blow their whistle. What happened was that one of the back refs (Probably a Tenn fan) blew their whistle before the clock ran out anticipating a foul so that Tenn could get their free throws.

Complete bullchit. How sweet would a Rutgers Tenn NCAA Tourney rematch be?! I might actually watch that (prob still not).

then why did the clock start again..

[Maverick Razorback]

the clock stops with 0.2 and then restarted.. if the refs whistle stopped the clock..who started it back up??

[catfanNar]

Who was officiating? Imus?
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Who was officiating? Imus?

Classic! +1

[lilredheadedlady]

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Wow.  That's blatant cheating. 

Well, in light of this, our boys better lay a beating on the vols so they can't do any of that funny business.

[Chuck Porker]

Those hos got screwed!

CP

[CincyVol]

Come on now.

[Beaverfever]

Who made the call? The officials or UT? They had the ability to look at the replay. Besides that game means nothing to the one coming up. It just looks like some are making excuses already.

Whatever man.  Whether you like it or not the Tennessee women's basketball program looks shady.

[DaveV]

The ref could have started it back up, all they have to do is blow into the whistle hard enough to stop it/start it. Who knows or really cares, just a chick game anyways.

[reddogjcss]

Only cheating if you get caught.

[CincyVol]

Whatever man.  Whether you like it or not the Tennessee women's basketball program looks shady.

How does that make the program look shady? The refs went back over to the table and still put .2 on the clock. They could have called it if they thought it was over. It's not like Pat Summitt or any of the Lady Vols stopped the clock.

[DaveV]

Tennessee lost, end of story.

[hogsailor]

It could happen that way in favor of the Hogs.

Would you gripe about it then?

The Vols got the better end of the deal.

College BB officiating is having to deal with problems never dreamed of ten years ago.

Don't start making excuses for why we lose to them because of a bad call in the women's game.

We will beat them, hopefully, because we are the better team.

Officiating goes both ways. Tomorrow pray it's in ours...

[Wild Bill Hog]

Charles Barkley says "If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying".  By the way, has ESPiN interviewed Imus yet?

[Wild Bill Hog]

It could happen that way in favor of the Hogs.

Would you gripe about it then?

The Vols got the better end of the deal.

College BB officiating is having to deal with problems never dreamed of ten years ago.

Don't start making excuses for why we lose to them because of a bad call in the women's game.

We will beat them, hopefully, because we are the better team.

Officiating goes both ways. Tomorrow pray it's in ours...

Given that most all SEC BB referees don't come close to having a clue about what's going on, no way they could have a conspiracy plan that actually worked!

[Golfer]

I think it was a bad call but the officials were responsible for that, not Tennessee, so I can't see how that could make Tennessee look 'shady'.  I don't like Tennessee and wish they had lost, but in this case they had nothing to do with the mistakes that were made.

[31to6]

The players did not cheat. I find it hard to believe that Pat Summit is so insecure in her job or her ego that she would tell someone to cheat.

So, it may be that the timekeeper cheated or--more charitably--made a mistake. The refs pretty much blew the call when they reviewed it, that is clear.

I choose to believe that it was a mistake because I choose to believe that given a choice between incompetence and conspiracy, incompetence is usually the explanation. There are a lot more stupid people in the world than brazenly crooked ones.

The sad thing is that TN Womens BB is so good they don't need breaks like this to dominate year after year.

[Nashville Fan]

THERE IS NO CLOCK KEEPER, FOR THE SECOND TIME.

Refs wear a device that stops the clock when they blow their whistle. What happened was that one of the back refs (Probably a Tenn fan) blew their whistle before the clock ran out anticipating a foul so that Tenn could get their free throws.

Complete bullchit. How sweet would a Rutgers Tenn NCAA Tourney rematch be?! I might actually watch that (prob still not).

Doesn't matter if there was or not. The on floor refs have the ability to correct this by watching the replay but they didn't. What conference were the refs from?

[jgphillips3]

I don't know if it is cheating, but it doesn't look good and any team that loses a game on a questionable stoppage like that should have a right to complain.  That is almost as bad as putting the ball on the ground in an SEC tournament game and starting the count...

[mathhog]

I don't know if it is cheating, but it doesn't look good and any team that loses a game on a questionable stoppage like that should have a right to complain.  That is almost as bad as putting the ball on the ground in an SEC tournament game and starting the count...

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