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Most underrated QB in Razorback history

Started by redleg, March 07, 2018, 08:51:51 am

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redleg

Since the RB thread seems to have been a hit, I guess there is no reason we can't do one for the most underrated QB in Arkansas history as well.

1. Brad Taylor - Best passer in the 1980s. #9 in career passing yards. #12 in career passing TDs.
2. Tom Jones - Solid starter between Scanlon and Taylor. #13 in career passing yards. #13 in career passing TDs.
3. Kevin Scanlon - Capable passer and runner after Calcagni. Still holds record for best completion percentage for a season.
4. Ronny South - Starter before Montgomery in the late 1960s.
5. Greg Thomas - Predecessor to Grovey during Hatfield's tenure.
If it ain't broke, fix it till it is.

Boss Hog in the Arkansas

Im only old enough to remember back to stoernor, but dare I say Brandon Allen. Starting his 1st game against Alabama definitely scarred him, but his name is on several Arkansas records for a reason.
That's right, you don't want to be the man to replace the man.  You want to be the man to replace Rory Segrest.

 

rtr

I think the Allen boys were talented enough but they were here at the wrong time.
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redleg

You may be right. But right now, most Hogs fans have an Allen hangover. We're sick of hearing that last name at QB. Cole Kelley was the best QB on the team in 2017.
But give Brandon his due...he showed steady progression over three years as the starter. Leadership in the huddle, good head for the game, and a play maker.
If it ain't broke, fix it till it is.

carolinahogger

Quote from: redleg on March 07, 2018, 08:51:51 am
4. Ronny South - Starter before Montgomery in the late 1960s.

Quarterbacked the hogs to their only losing record of the 60s.  He was not good at all.

Boss Hog in the Arkansas

Quote from: rtr on March 07, 2018, 09:00:30 am
I think the Allen boys were talented enough but they were here at the wrong time.
I think that can be said about quite a few players over the past 4 or 5 years. More than we even know
That's right, you don't want to be the man to replace the man.  You want to be the man to replace Rory Segrest.

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Quote from: redleg on March 07, 2018, 09:12:48 am
You may be right. But right now, most Hogs fans have an Allen hangover. We're sick of hearing that last name at QB. Cole Kelley was the best QB on the team in 2017.
But give Brandon his due...he showed steady progression over three years as the starter. Leadership in the huddle, good head for the game, and a play maker.
And don't forget the off the field stuff. Getting his truck set on fire, his car (or was it his apartment) getting egged, even though it later broke that an ex girlfriend did the egging. Brandon was all hog up until the very end.
That's right, you don't want to be the man to replace the man.  You want to be the man to replace Rory Segrest.

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Quote from: carolinahogger on March 07, 2018, 09:20:27 am
Quarterbacked the hogs to their only losing record of the 60s.  He was not good at all.

The first games I was deemed "old enough" to go to were in 1967, South was the QB, we were bad.

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NoogaHog

I remember watching Jason Allen play. He was exciting to watch, that is until some Baylor defender ripped his leg off.

Haha. I looked up his stats, you gotta love the 8-16 TD-Int ratio.
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Casey Dick.

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Quote from: snoot hoggy hog on March 07, 2018, 09:54:47 am
Houston Nutt

Danny Nutt.  Lost his starting job at UCA, transferred to UA and took playing time away from Brad Taylor. 

supersaint

Doyle Preston. Amazing talent who tore his ACL during pregame warmups of the 1991 Baylor game.  He wasn't the same after.  He ended up as starting punter and played baseball.  Drafted by the Reds.  Not under rated, but a great talent that didn't work out.
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Storey...but we will never know it.

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Hawgboy64

With a top 5 of
Bill Montgomery
Joe Ferguson
Ron Calcagni
Quinn Grovey
Ryan Mallett

Maybe Scott Bull or Clint Stoerner
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My guess is whoever the back up is next year. The fans always think the backup is great and is getting shafted by the coach.
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twistitup

Quote from: hogsanity on March 07, 2018, 10:47:28 am
My guess is whoever the back up is next year. The fans always think the backup is great and is getting shafted by the coach.

Derby was a few years back - I still remember the Hogville clamor
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Hawgey-Davidson

How about Peanut Adams?  I kid, I kid.

BDSCT51

Brad Taylor and Scott Bull top this list for me. Had the pleasure of seeing them at the HS level on numerous occasions too. They were Hogs through and through with WPS flowing in their veins.

Saw Scott Bull in maybe the second greatest HS game I ever witnessed, Jonesboro versus Hot Springs for the state title in 70 or maybe 71 I think. Ended in a 10-10 tie in the most atrocious weather and field conditions. Scott willed that team to hanging tough.

Watched Brad light up every team in the class A playoffs his senior year. You just knew he was going to be a great Hog QB.
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welchog

Quote from: Hawgboy64 on March 07, 2018, 10:44:35 am
With a top 5 of
Bill Montgomery
Joe Ferguson
Ron Calcagni
Quinn Grovey
Ryan Mallett

Maybe Scott Bull or Clint Stoerner

OP is for most underrated QBs.  Yours looks like a list of our best.

 

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welchog

IMO underrated is synonymous with exceeding expectations. 

That title belongs to one man...Matt Jones.

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Mike Cherry and Tarvaris Jackson, and its not even close.

flippinhogmana

Quote from: ricepig on March 07, 2018, 09:30:48 am
The first games I was deemed "old enough" to go to were in 1967, South was the QB, we were bad.

As I recall we had no running game back then (I mean in his year as starter), and it wasn't the finest period in FB's tenure.  It was South chucking it for almost all the offense.  Imho, its impossible to rate South in that scenario, but we were bad and the record reflects it, how much of it was due to him, I am not sure.
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Quote from: Hawgey-Davidson on March 07, 2018, 10:55:22 am
How about Peanut Adams?  I kid, I kid.
I dare say he was probably the worst starting QB in modern razorback history. 

presidenthog

Brandon Allen is the most underrated. A ton of people still think he sucked here.

010HogFan

Quote from: presidenthog on March 07, 2018, 11:52:39 pm
Brandon Allen is the most underrated. A ton of people still think he sucked here.

He was as solid as solid gets his senior year. I'm still mad that they took the football out of his hands at the end of that Miss. St. game when they had Dak.

redleg

Quote from: ChicoHog on March 07, 2018, 04:18:39 pm
I dare say he was probably the worst starting QB in modern razorback history.
I would go with LaJun "Petey" Burks over Adams.
If it ain't broke, fix it till it is.

Tusks


I originally said Brad Taylor but I may have to revote 'a liberal term' and go with Scott Bull.  He was the last Hog QB to win the Cotton Bowl as a SWC member in 75.
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Lamar McHan.

9th in the Heisman voting, highest ranking Razorback quarterback for that award. Drafted 2nd overall in the NFL draft. Played in the NFL and was the starting QB for Vince Lombardi until he had an injury and was replaced by a young Bart Starr.

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Quote from: presidenthog on March 07, 2018, 11:52:39 pm
Brandon Allen is the most underrated. A ton of people still think he sucked here.
he did suck here for 3.5 half years he sucked the big one.

then the light switch turned on and he was clutch for half a season.
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Barry Lunney Jr

i like this choice i always liked Lunny Jr.   could be because he was QB when i was in HS.

LZH

Haven't thought about Tom Jones in a while. He had a weird release iirc, like he was quadruple jointed or something. Seemed to take forever to get wound up and get rid of the ball. Not like it mattered, though...he did well.

DLUXHOG

Ron Calcagni without a doubt.   He was truly a unsung hero for a couple of great and awesome Razorback teams.....
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ErieHog

Lunney or Brandon Allen.

Look, I love a lot of the nostalgia, but our quarterbacks even in our golden era, were not fantastic.  They were adequate, and fine for that era. 
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Quote from: Hawgboy64 on March 07, 2018, 10:44:35 am
With a top 5 of
Bill Montgomery
Joe Ferguson
Ron Calcagni
Quinn Grovey
Ryan Mallett

Maybe Scott Bull or Clint Stoerner
none of these were underrated, in my opinion.. they were college QB stars and lived up to the billing.  I have great memories of each of them.  LOVED watching a couple of them beat hated horn nation in person!

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Quote from: hawginbigd1 on March 07, 2018, 02:27:27 pm
Mike Cherry and Tarvaris Jackson, and its not even close.

I saw Basil Shazz destroy Mike Cherry Texarkana team in the state title game.
If the South should lose, it means that the history of the heroic struggle will be written by the enemy, that our youth will be trained by Northern school teachers, will be impressed by all of the influences of history and education to regard our gallant dead as traitors and our maimed veterans as fit subjects for derision.
-- Major General Patrick Cleburne
The Confederacy had no better soldiers
than the Arkansans--fearless, brave, and oftentimes courageous beyond
prudence. Dickart History of Kershaws Brigade.