Ozark Oak evidently is out of business.

[Boarcephus]

Stopped by Harps to pick some up and found out they have called it quits and no longer in business.  Need to find a substitute.  Any ideas?  They're now carrying something called Cowboy something or other.  Runs about $6 a bag.

[Pulled(PP)pork]

I read somewhere that harps had their own brand out


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[twistitup]

I read somewhere that harps had their own brand out


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This is what will bankrupt a small, local company. You bring in a good product, it gets popular at all stores that carry it, then you develop a low dollar store brand to compete with the company that started it all.

I'm not sure this is what happened, but I've seen it happen too often. Hyland milk company is having to face the same reality. They have a quality local product that is now being killed by generic b.s. not raised locally by local farmers.

[Boarcephus]

This is what will bankrupt a small, local company. You bring in a good product, it gets popular at all stores that carry it, then you develop a low dollar store brand to compete with the company that started it all.

I'm not sure this is what happened, but I've seen it happen too often. Hyland milk company is having to face the same reality. They have a quality local product that is now being killed by generic b.s. not raised locally by local farmers.

Not sure who makes the Cowboy brand but it's $6 for an 8 pound bag while OA was a 10 pound bag for $5 something.  I hate the thought of ponying up $20+ for a 20 pound bag of BGE charcoal but may have to.  There are a bunch of grillers on here and looking for a substitute someone can recommend. 

[twistitup]

Not sure who makes the Cowboy brand but it's $6 for an 8 pound bag while OA was a 10 pound bag for $5 something.  I hate the thought of ponying up $20+ for a 20 pound bag of BGE charcoal but may have to.  There are a bunch of grillers on here and looking for a substitute someone can recommend. 

what's the price on the generic, store brand hardwood charcoal?

[Boarcephus]

what's the price on the generic, store brand hardwood charcoal?

I didn't notice one.  Wonder if Cowboy was it??  The had a Kingsford Lump briquette charcoal.  I know, thought that was strange. 

[PharmacistHog]

Checkout the last page of the charcoal thread. By the way, the cowboy brand I tried sucked. Sparked and smoked like a burning tire.

[Boarcephus]

Checkout the last page of the charcoal thread. By the way, the cowboy brand I tried sucked. Sparked and smoked like a burning tire.

Appreciate it.  I'll rule that one out.  I'll slip over and look at it. 

[Filthy_McSwine]

I've used Royal Oak since Ozark is no longer available and it seems fine.  Walmart and Home Depot both carry it, at least in Central Ark. With regard to the Cowboy brand, it seems to get universally bad reviews...Google it.

[Boarcephus]

I've used Royal Oak since Ozark is no longer available and it seems fine.  Walmart and Home Depot both carry it, at least in Central Ark. With regard to the Cowboy brand, it seems to get universally bad reviews...Google it.

Is it a lump charcoal? 

[Boarcephus]

Checkout the last page of the charcoal thread. By the way, the cowboy brand I tried sucked. Sparked and smoked like a burning tire.

Only one I found was the BGE one.  Is there another one?  thanks!

[Rocky&Boarwinkle]

Supposedly the factory is still running, but shipping it out of the country.  That is a funny turn of events, usually the other way around.

http://www.kamadoguru.com/topic/18551-ozark-oak-out-of-business/page-2

[PharmacistHog]

Only one I found was the BGE one.  Is there another one?  thanks!

I'm not sure what your question is. Which thread?  Theres one about how much charcoal do you use. I dont know how to link it. I had read that ozark oak was gonna close and loaded up early this spring but I did go ahead and order some rockwood online. If you buy over 100 bucks it ships free. It averages about 22-23 bucks a 20lb bag but I think its good stuff. I like it better than bge brand. Its comparable to ozark oak.

[Filthy_McSwine]

Is it a lump charcoal? 

Yes.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Royal-Oak-All-Natural-Hardwood-Lump-Charcoal/19546016

[Boarcephus]

Yes.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Royal-Oak-All-Natural-Hardwood-Lump-Charcoal/19546016

Thanks!  I've got one bag of OO left but I'll pick up a bag of this and try it. 

[PharmacistHog]

Thanks!  I've got one bag of OO left but I'll pick up a bag of this and try it. 

Supposedly royal oak makes bge charcoal, its just sorted a little better. Ive used royal oak with no problems. It just isnt as good as ozark oak.

[Boarcephus]

Supposedly royal oak makes bge charcoal, its just sorted a little better. Ive used royal oak with no problems. It just isnt as good as ozark oak.

If I recall correctly, a 20 pound bag of BGE is around $25, and that's crazy, so if this stuff is the same thing it'll work out fine.  I've always enjoyed doing business, if I can, with the little guy and this guy is over around Flippin or Yellville so I think his story is kind of neat.  Back when we were toying with the idea of buying bulk I called him and spoke to him and tried to cut a deal on a pallet or two if we came and picked it up.  Came across as just an old country guy.  Turned out not that much of a savings and I just wasn't prepared to buy, and store, a year or two worth of the stuff to save $50.   

[PharmacistHog]

If I recall correctly, a 20 pound bag of BGE is around $25, and that's crazy, so if this stuff is the same thing it'll work out fine.  I've always enjoyed doing business, if I can, with the little guy and this guy is over around Flippin or Yellville so I think his story is kind of neat.  Back when we were toying with the idea of buying bulk I called him and spoke to him and tried to cut a deal on a pallet or two if we came and picked it up.  Came across as just an old country guy.  Turned out not that much of a savings and I just wasn't prepared to buy, and store, a year or two worth of the stuff to save $50.   

Yeah I wouldnt do that either. I ended up buying about 15 bags that Ive stored. I'm down to 8 now. Was nice to buy OO for less than 6 bucks a bag while it lasted.

[Boarcephus]

Yeah I wouldnt do that either. I ended up buying about 15 bags that Ive stored. I'm down to 8 now. Was nice to buy OO for less than 6 bucks a bag while it lasted.

I stopped by Harps this morning and thats when I found out about it.  I went to 3-4 other Harps seeing if by chance they had any left over and didn't find a bag.  I'll switch to the Royal Oak and go from there.  Be nice if one of the rumors is true and their making it for Walmart but I doubt they could make that much to service a chain that big.

[ozarkshogfan]

I know the guys that own Ozark Oak.  We live in the same town.  I talked to them the other day. They are still making charcoal but bagging it for Royal Oak and Big Green Egg. There is still some Ozark Oak available around here in the Yellville area. The Royal Oak in these parts is, well, exactly like Ozark Oak. RO has some kilns of their own.  I don't know what that charcoal looks like. Mr Martin said a lady at a store in Harrison told him "this BGE charcoal is better than Ozark Oak". He just laughed and didn't tell her it's the same thing

[twistitup]

I know the guys that own Ozark Oak.  We live in the same town.  I talked to them the other day. They are still making charcoal but bagging it for Royal Oak and Big Green Egg. There is still some Ozark Oak available around here in the Yellville area. The Royal Oak in these parts is, well, exactly like Ozark Oak. RO has some kilns of their own.  I don't know what that charcoal looks like. Mr Martin said a lady at a store in Harrison told him "this BGE charcoal is better than Ozark Oak". He just laughed and didn't tell her it's the same thing

I wish they would have kept the brand going....but that life - money talks

[ozarkshogfan]

I wish they would have kept the brand going....but that life - money talks

Yeah me too.  It has a lot to do with keeping all the employees busy year round. Winter time got pretty slow for em. RO and BGE can keep them busy

[Boarcephus]

Yeah me too.  It has a lot to do with keeping all the employees busy year round. Winter time got pretty slow for em. RO and BGE can keep them busy

So if I buy the RO at Walmart I'm getting OO?  If that's the case, I'm good. 

[ozarkshogfan]

So if I buy the RO at Walmart I'm getting OO?  If that's the case, I'm good. 

To some extent.  RO does make some of it. I don't know for sure which goes where but Walmart from Harrison to Mountain Home and south central Missouri its Ozark Oaks stuff.  Not sure where else though

[DeltaBoy]

ROYAL OAK gets good n hot on my Weber.

[DeltaBoy]

Any body find a stach of it

[Boog41]

Negative

[Rocky&Boarwinkle]

Drove a substitute bus route right in front of the main plant today.  Didn't really look open, but really didn't look shut down either.  Downtown Snow Arkansas.   

[DeltaBoy]

Hope to see it back by next summer for now it a mixture of Original Kingsford and Royal Oak.

[PorkRinds]

Drove a substitute bus route right in front of the main plant today.  Didn't really look open, but really didn't look shut down either.  Downtown Snow Arkansas.   

Evidently they are open, but selling under different brand names in order to keep business rolling year round.  Or so I've been told.

[DeltaBoy]

Evidently they are open, but selling under different brand names in order to keep business rolling year round.  Or so I've been told.

Please find out what brands they are selling under.

[PorkRinds]

Please find out what brands they are selling under.

I'm not positive.  I've heard that the BGE commercial brand is one of them, but I've also heard they are sending it all out of the country.  I really don't know.

[rcopela]

Has anyone tried the new Kingsford lump? I used the competition, and it worked well, but not lump..

[bigstyx]

Saw it today. They call it lump briquets, that just seemed weird. Passed on it and got two bags of Royal Oak.

[ozarkshogfan]

Right now they are bagging it for Royal Oak and BGE. They said the RO goes to a warehouse up north. They didn't say where the BGE bags are going....I've known those guys all my life

[ozarkshogfan]

Drove a substitute bus route right in front of the main plant today.  Didn't really look open, but really didn't look shut down either.  Downtown Snow Arkansas.   

I was told that they are in the middle of some paperwork stuff that had to been done.  I think I meet you once. We have a friend in common I believe

[PorkRinds]

Right now they are bagging it for Royal Oak and BGE. They said the RO goes to a warehouse up north. They didn't say where the BGE bags are going....I've known those guys all my life

Thanks for the info. I heard the same and you've confirmed. Thanks!

[ozarkshogfan]

Thanks for the info. I heard the same and you've confirmed. Thanks!

Hey no problem.  They said a while back to squash the rumors that they "sold out".  Still same guys and same charcoal, different bags

[PorkRinds]

Hey no problem.  They said a while back to squash the rumors that they "sold out".  Still same guys and same charcoal, different bags

Can you go there and purchase it?

[ozarkshogfan]

Can you go there and purchase it?

They did have a few pallets of Ozark Oak a month ago but I think it's all gone now.  They did used to sell right from the warehouse but ya might have to get Royal Oak now. I'd bet if you stopped by there they'd sell you some. There real good guys.  Might call them and make sure though

[PorkRinds]

They did have a few pallets of Ozark Oak a month ago but I think it's all gone now.  They did used to sell right from the warehouse but ya might have to get Royal Oak now. I'd bet if you stopped by there they'd sell you some. There real good guys.  Might call them and make sure though

Heck I don't care what name is on the bag. Is it the same number as OO used to be?

[ozarkshogfan]

I think its the same number 870-427-5888

[DeltaBoy]

Thanks I will keep buying the Royal Oak cause it great for chops and steaks.  Hot and Fast.

[ozarkshogfan]

Well the latest out of Snow Ar is that Royal Oak people are hard to get along with. They ask Mr Martin what his crazy number was, he told em. They wrote the check.....  It's still gonna be made from the same slabs, the same way but the Martin family is out of it. I think they first started in the mid-early 70's under Martins Charcoal.....

[DeltaBoy]

Sad to see a Ark Company get bought out.

[ozarkshogfan]

It is.  Can't really blame em I guess.  Old man gettn' old, boys just want to run their farms.... 

[DeltaBoy]

It is.  Can't really blame em I guess.  Old man gettn' old, boys just want to run their farms.... 

I understand that I just hope the quality doesn't tank in a year or two.

[ozarkshogfan]

I understand that I just hope the quality doesn't tank in a year or two.

I dont think it will as long as they keep using the same slabs from the couple saw mills that are in the area

[DeltaBoy]

I dont think it will as long as they keep using the same slabs from the couple saw mills that are in the area

Thanks