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Re: SEC or Big 12
« Reply #300 on: January 12, 2018, 12:43:17 pm »

Could you imagine having to drive to the stadium to see Vanderbilt..

Could you imagine having to drive to the stadium to see Kentucky..





Loved the music scene in Nashville and had a blast touring Bourbon and Bluegrass Country near Lexington.  Things to do in Waco?  Hmmm, have to do some hard thinking on that one.
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Re: SEC or Big 12
« Reply #301 on: January 12, 2018, 12:45:40 pm »

Loved the music scene in Nashville and had a blast touring Bourbon and Bluegrass Country near Lexington.  Things to do in Waco?  Hmmm, have to do some hard thinking on that one.

Believe he was insinuating he wouldn't want to drive to the Hill to see Baylor, but can you imagine having to drive to the stadium to see Mississippi State..
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Re: SEC or Big 12
« Reply #302 on: January 12, 2018, 12:46:50 pm »

Loved the music scene in Nashville and had a blast touring Bourbon and Bluegrass Country near Lexington.  Things to do in Waco?  Hmmm, have to do some hard thinking on that one.

Also, who doesn't want to go see Chip and Joanna Gaines? Must be crazy
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Re: SEC or Big 12
« Reply #303 on: January 12, 2018, 12:46:51 pm »

Believe he was insinuating he wouldn't want to drive to the Hill to see Baylor, but can you imagine having to drive to the stadium to see Mississippi State..
Sounds good to me.
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Re: SEC or Big 12
« Reply #304 on: January 12, 2018, 12:47:19 pm »

Could you imagine having to drive to the stadium to see Vanderbilt..

Could you imagine having to drive to the stadium to see Kentucky..

Could you imagine having to drive to the stadium to see Texas, OU, Ok State, WVU, and TCU though? How fun would that be?! Or could you imagine having to drive to the BASKETBALL PALACE OF MID-AMERICA to see Texas, OU, KU, WVU, TCU, TTU??! Wow!
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Re: SEC or Big 12
« Reply #305 on: January 12, 2018, 12:49:23 pm »

Could you imagine having to drive to the stadium to see Texas, OU, Ok State, WVU, and TCU though? How fun would that be?! Or could you imagine having to drive to the BASKETBALL PALACE OF MID-AMERICA to see Texas, OU, KU, WVU, TCU, TTU??! Wow!

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Re: SEC or Big 12
« Reply #306 on: January 12, 2018, 12:51:01 pm »

Also, who doesn't want to go see Chip and Joanna Gaines? Must be crazy
I can't think of anything that more symbolizes the mentality of all Big 12ers.
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Re: SEC or Big 12
« Reply #307 on: January 12, 2018, 12:52:46 pm »

I can't think of anything that more symbolizes the mentality of all Big 12ers.

People in the Big 12 have good style and hot wives?
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Re: SEC or Big 12
« Reply #308 on: January 12, 2018, 12:54:26 pm »

People in the Big 12 have good style and hot wives?
Good for you but no thanks. 
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Re: SEC or Big 12
« Reply #309 on: January 12, 2018, 12:55:41 pm »

People in the Big 12 have good style and hot wives?

Exactly. Just look at Bill Snyder. Case closed.
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Re: SEC or Big 12
« Reply #310 on: January 12, 2018, 12:56:34 pm »

People in the Big 12 have good style and hot wives?
Gary Patterson is something of a fashion plate as well.
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Re: SEC or Big 12
« Reply #311 on: January 12, 2018, 12:57:58 pm »

Gary Patterson is something of a fashion plate as well.

Howdy ma'am
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Re: SEC or Big 12
« Reply #312 on: January 12, 2018, 12:58:19 pm »

Gary Patterson is something of a fashion plate as well.

Yeah Bielema on the sidelines lookin’ like the Goodyear Blimp just screams fashion
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Re: SEC or Big 12
« Reply #313 on: January 12, 2018, 12:59:33 pm »

Yeah Bielema on the sidelines lookin’ like the Goodyear Blimp just screams fashion

Plus size is in these days. He's the Ashley Graham of CFB
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Re: SEC or Big 12
« Reply #314 on: January 12, 2018, 12:59:41 pm »

Yeah Bielema on the sidelines lookin’ like the Goodyear Blimp just screams fashion
Your coach.
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Re: SEC or Big 12
« Reply #315 on: January 12, 2018, 01:14:25 pm »

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Re: SEC or Big 12
« Reply #316 on: January 12, 2018, 01:18:58 pm »

I can't wait until the remaining Arkansas Big 12 fans pass over to the other side.  So tired of this topic being brought up when 98% of the fan base is focused on the SEC.  Could you imagine having to drive to the stadium to see Baylor.. I'd fall asleep in the car half way there.
I believe that 98% of fans know that Arkansas will never leave the SEC.  I believe that deep down a large % of fans know that we would be better off in the big 12.
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Re: SEC or Big 12
« Reply #317 on: January 12, 2018, 01:22:03 pm »

I believe that 98% of fans know that Arkansas will never leave the SEC.  I believe that deep down a large % of fans know that we would be better off in the big 12.

Couldn't agree more
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Re: SEC or Big 12
« Reply #318 on: January 12, 2018, 01:22:29 pm »

Could you imagine having to drive to the stadium to see Texas, OU, Ok State, WVU, and TCU though? How fun would that be?! Or could you imagine having to drive to the BASKETBALL PALACE OF MID-AMERICA to see Texas, OU, KU, WVU, TCU, TTU??! Wow!

No, those schools are terrible.  I have zero interest any see any of that trash.  Maybe OU to see them choke against a SEC team year after year, but those schools are flat out boring.  Seems to me that you aren't a Arkansas fan at all, some troll from the Big 12 trying to do everything you can to get Arkansas back.  Sorry, we will never, ever go back to that dump of a conference.

Let's face it, you are in panic mode because year in and year out the Big 12 gets weaker and more insignificant than the previous year.  You are basically the laughing stock of sports as it is with Texas continuing to do what Texas does.  So please just stop, nobody cares about your sheit conference, get off our forums and go back to Texas.
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Re: SEC or Big 12
« Reply #319 on: January 12, 2018, 01:27:16 pm »

No, those schools are terrible.  I have zero interest any see any of that trash.  Maybe OU to see them choke against a SEC team year after year, but those schools are flat out boring.  Seems to me that you aren't a Arkansas fan at all, some troll from the Big 12 trying to do everything you can to get Arkansas back.  Sorry, we will never, ever go back to that dump of a conference.

Let's face it, you are in panic mode because year in and year out the Big 12 gets weaker and more insignificant than the previous year.  You are basically the laughing stock of sports as it is with Texas continuing to do what Texas does.  So please just stop, nobody cares about your sheit conference, get off our forums and go back to Texas.

Huh @ bolded?


Also, if TCU and the rest of that lot is terrible are we worse than terrible while being in a better conference? Does not sound like an ideal situation for winning football games.
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« Reply #320 on: January 12, 2018, 01:28:07 pm »

No, those schools are terrible.  I have zero interest any see any of that trash.  Maybe OU to see them choke against a SEC team year after year, but those schools are flat out boring.  Seems to me that you aren't a Arkansas fan at all, some troll from the Big 12 trying to do everything you can to get Arkansas back.  Sorry, we will never, ever go back to that dump of a conference.

Let's face it, you are in panic mode because year in and year out the Big 12 gets weaker and more insignificant than the previous year.  You are basically the laughing stock of sports as it is with Texas continuing to do what Texas does.  So please just stop, nobody cares about your sheit conference, get off our forums and go back to Texas.

So those schools are trash -> Arkansas is not trash -> Why not go to said conference and defeat said teams to make it to the playoff for football?
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Re: SEC or Big 12
« Reply #321 on: January 12, 2018, 01:30:39 pm »

No, those schools are terrible.  I have zero interest any see any of that trash.  Maybe OU to see them choke against a SEC team year after year, but those schools are flat out boring.  Seems to me that you aren't a Arkansas fan at all, some troll from the Big 12 trying to do everything you can to get Arkansas back.  Sorry, we will never, ever go back to that dump of a conference.

Let's face it, you are in panic mode because year in and year out the Big 12 gets weaker and more insignificant than the previous year.  You are basically the laughing stock of sports as it is with Texas continuing to do what Texas does.  So please just stop, nobody cares about your sheit conference, get off our forums and go back to Texas.

Can't go back to something you were never a part of, Melvin.

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Re: SEC or Big 12
« Reply #322 on: January 12, 2018, 01:49:18 pm »

No FSU's spot I believe was taken by SC. They wanted to have divisions and needed a school form the eastern side as well as from the western side. Now IF OU, Texas or TAMU would have agreed to go there then Arkansas might not have gotten the invite.

  South Carolina took Clemson's spot. When they refused.
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Re: SEC or Big 12
« Reply #323 on: January 12, 2018, 02:08:39 pm »

7 pages.

I guess this explains why people keep retreading a discussion of something that will not happen.
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Re: SEC or Big 12
« Reply #324 on: January 12, 2018, 02:10:49 pm »

Can't go back to something you were never a part of, Melvin.



Don't be a child, you know what I mean.  So glad we got away from the state of Texas cult.
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Re: SEC or Big 12
« Reply #325 on: January 12, 2018, 02:12:33 pm »

Don't be a child, you know what I mean.  So glad we got away from the state of Texas cult.

To become a mediocre program?
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Re: SEC or Big 12
« Reply #326 on: January 12, 2018, 02:35:08 pm »

  South Carolina took Clemson's spot. When they refused.

You have proof that Clemson was asked? I heard rumors of discussions but no invitation. Same for FSU except it was widely believed and told FSU was not gonna get the votes to get in being in a state already with a team. Florida especially appeared not to want them in. Kind of saw it as an infringement on their turf but it really wasn't. It's the old media footprint thing. That being said I was all for Clemson getting an invite over SC.
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Re: SEC or Big 12
« Reply #327 on: January 12, 2018, 03:00:22 pm »

To become a mediocre program?

Being last in the SEC is a 1000 times better than winning the Big 12.  It's like being Black in America being a 1000 times better than living in North Korea.
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Re: SEC or Big 12
« Reply #328 on: January 12, 2018, 03:14:50 pm »

Plus size is in these days. He's the Ashley Graham of CFB

Ha! Fwiw, that gal would have to fight me off of her.
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Re: SEC or Big 12
« Reply #329 on: January 12, 2018, 04:00:21 pm »

Also, two of the larger schools in the Big 12(TCU and Baylor) as far as revenue goes, are private and do not disclose their earnings.

Baylor doesn't disclose a lot of stuff.
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Re: SEC or Big 12
« Reply #330 on: January 12, 2018, 09:19:10 pm »

Are the Hogs better off to stay in the SEC? Or would it benefit the athletic program to move to the Big 12? Take all sports into account, not just football.



Yawn...
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Re: SEC or Big 12
« Reply #331 on: January 12, 2018, 11:20:33 pm »

Which of the following scenarios is easier to come out of with 0 or 1 loss?

A)Playing Bama, Auburn, LSU, A&M, and then either UGA or Florida in the SEC championship game?

B) Playing Texas, OU, OK state and TCU then one of the 4 again in the Big 12 Championship game?
you stil didn't answer my question. So let me ask it like this
which of the following scenarios is more likely.
Texas Ou OKstate TCU sharing the wealth with us
Bama,Auburn,Lsu,OleMiss,Florida, Ga.
I remind you history has already proven what one side will share and how one side will screw over their own conference to further their personal gendy
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Re: SEC or Big 12
« Reply #332 on: January 12, 2018, 11:27:48 pm »

you stil didn't answer my question. So let me ask it like this
which of the following scenarios is more likely.
Texas Ou OKstate TCU sharing the wealth with us
Bama,Auburn,Lsu,OleMiss,Florida, Ga.
I remind you history has already proven what one side will share and how one side will screw over their own conference to further their personal gendy

 You need to research that a little more. The original Big 12 members voted for unequal revenue sharing.  Everyone likes to use Texas as the escape goat. But it all isn't their fault. Now Deloss Dodd was an a$$ and nothing would surprise me about him. But he isn't the AD anymore.
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Re: SEC or Big 12
« Reply #333 on: January 12, 2018, 11:30:32 pm »

I believe that 98% of fans know that Arkansas will never leave the SEC.  I believe that deep down a large % of fans know that we would be better off in the big 12.
That's funny, I know several OU fans that are mad they didn't join the SEC a few years ago when talks were ongoing. Most OU fans I know cant wait to get to a "better" conference and prove their mettle win or lose.
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Re: SEC or Big 12
« Reply #334 on: January 12, 2018, 11:35:43 pm »

You need to research that a little more. The original Big 12 members voted for unequal revenue sharing.  Everyone likes to use Texas as the escape goat. But it all isn't their fault. Now Deloss Dodd was an a$$ and nothing would surprise me about him. But he isn't the AD anymore.
I wonder why members would vote yes to such a thing?  Maybe on threat that Texas leave and let the conference implode if they don't get their way?  If/when the little 12 dissolves, half those schools will land,,,,,,,,,no where.  Can you say the same about the SEC if the conferece suddenly dissolved
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Re: SEC or Big 12
« Reply #335 on: January 12, 2018, 11:38:01 pm »

This thread is retarded.
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Re: SEC or Big 12
« Reply #336 on: January 13, 2018, 12:04:00 am »

Can just imagine how tough it must be to be a newbie on 15 year old forum.
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« Reply #337 on: January 13, 2018, 01:02:47 am »

I believe that 98% of fans know that Arkansas will never leave the SEC.  I believe that deep down a large % of fans know that we would be better off in the big 12.

This is the truth, but we know how much people want to hear the truth these days.  The one and only way we are better off in the SEC is MONEY.  But, hey, this is America in money we trust, so we all know how this is going to turn out.  Why are we even going on about this, even though, I would kind of like to see what Van Horn and the baseball team could do in the Big 12.
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Re: SEC or Big 12
« Reply #338 on: January 13, 2018, 06:16:06 am »

This is the truth, but we know how much people want to hear the truth these days.  The one and only way we are better off in the SEC is MONEY.  But, hey, this is America in money we trust, so we all know how this is going to turn out.  Why are we even going on about this, even though, I would kind of like to see what Van Horn and the baseball team could do in the Big 12.

You people are kidding yourselves if you think it's all about money. You ever play Jenga? The B12 has already lost Nebraska, Colorado, Mizzou and A&M. OU and Texas are the lynchpins holding that league together. The day one of those two leaves the whole thing will come crashing down. If you don't think that could happen, see the Big East. If Arkansas leaves the SEC to join the B12, where do we go when the B12 topples? Mountain West?

In a way you're right that it is about money. Money is what drives conference realignment, but it's not as much about greed for the individual programs like Arkansas as it is being in a strong league that will be here in the future. When the day comes that OU and/or Texas determine the B12 puts them at a financial disadvantage they will be gone and the B12 will disintegrate or become irrelevant. It's naive to think otherwise.
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Re: SEC or Big 12
« Reply #339 on: January 13, 2018, 07:26:26 am »

You people are kidding yourselves if you think it's all about money. You ever play Jenga? The B12 has already lost Nebraska, Colorado, Mizzou and A&M. OU and Texas are the lynchpins holding that league together. The day one of those two leaves the whole thing will come crashing down. If you don't think that could happen, see the Big East. If Arkansas leaves the SEC to join the B12, where do we go when the B12 topples? Mountain West?

In a way you're right that it is about money. Money is what drives conference realignment, but it's not as much about greed for the individual programs like Arkansas as it is being in a strong league that will be here in the future. When the day comes that OU and/or Texas determine the B12 puts them at a financial disadvantage they will be gone and the B12 will disintegrate or become irrelevant. It's naive to think otherwise.

 Your partially right. But OU and Texas don't want to join another conference. They like being the Big dogs in a P5 conference. Which is really no different than Southern Cal in the PAC12 or Florida State in the ACC. They could have joined any other conference in 2012. But didn't. Now I'm not advocating a move to the Big 12. I would prefer we all get together and build a new conference.
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Re: SEC or Big 12
« Reply #340 on: January 13, 2018, 08:01:40 am »

Your partially right. But OU and Texas don't want to join another conference. They like being the Big dogs in a P5 conference. Which is really no different than Southern Cal in the PAC12 or Florida State in the ACC. They could have joined any other conference in 2012. But didn't. Now I'm not advocating a move to the Big 12. I would prefer we all get together and build a new conference.

That's a popular narrative on this board, but I guarantee they know that when the media money runs out for the B12 they will need to go somewhere else. To form a new conference you have to have a combination national-level programs, major media markets, and a media deal that mirrors the other conferences. A new conference that is as viable as the remaining P5 conferences would require programs to leave an already stable situation and gamble on an OU/Texas-centric league they've already left once. It would also require the media companies to shell out more cash at a time when they are looking to cut costs.
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Re: SEC or Big 12
« Reply #341 on: January 13, 2018, 08:03:21 am »

That's a popular narrative on this board, but I guarantee they know that when the media money runs out for the B12 they will need to go somewhere else. To form a new conference you have to have a combination national-level programs, major media markets, and a media deal that mirrors the other conferences. A new conference that is as viable as the remaining P5 conferences would require programs to leave an already stable situation and gamble on an OU/Texas-centric league they've already left once. It would also require the media companies to shell out more cash at a time when they are looking to cut costs.

Exactly! When the current television contracts expire, it will be interesting to see the financial impact of the next deals.
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Re: SEC or Big 12
« Reply #342 on: January 13, 2018, 08:17:04 am »

You people are kidding yourselves if you think it's all about money. You ever play Jenga? The B12 has already lost Nebraska, Colorado, Mizzou and A&M. OU and Texas are the lynchpins holding that league together. The day one of those two leaves the whole thing will come crashing down. If you don't think that could happen, see the Big East. If Arkansas leaves the SEC to join the B12, where do we go when the B12 topples? Mountain West?

In a way you're right that it is about money. Money is what drives conference realignment, but it's not as much about greed for the individual programs like Arkansas as it is being in a strong league that will be here in the future. When the day comes that OU and/or Texas determine the B12 puts them at a financial disadvantage they will be gone and the B12 will disintegrate or become irrelevant. It's naive to think otherwise.

This is true and you make some great points about the B12. I think that they know that they need to expand and they explored that looking at 6 or so teams, but their findings were that the teams that they studied, didn't bring enough added value to the Big 12. That of course means that financially they didn't bring enough of a dedicated t.v. draw to the conference.

The improbable/next to impossible scenario that would best benefit the B12, while not terribly damaging other conferences in the process, would be if they could reach an agreement with either ESPN or Fox (or a combination of the two) that if they could get to 14 major teams they would be assured of a conference payout that rivaled that of the SEC or Big Ten. If that agreement could be reached (darn near impossible though) they might be able to reach out to Nebraska, Missouri, A&M and Arkansas with the idea in mind of "getting the band back together + 1". That highly unlikely scenario would restore stability to the Big 12. Of course, more equal revenue sharing for all schools would have to be a part of the agreement or this would be dead in the water.

Would the Big Ten have a problem replacing Nebraska? Nope. Would the SEC have a hard time replacing Missouri, A&M and Arkansas? I don't think so.

But the odds of all of this all coming together is Slim and none and "Slim" is on his way out of town.
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Re: SEC or Big 12
« Reply #343 on: January 13, 2018, 08:35:18 am »

Being last in the SEC is a 1000 times better than winning the Big 12.  It's like being Black in America being a 1000 times better than living in North Korea.

Oh my God. I wanna admit that I pick up on your sarcasm, but something about this makes me think you’re actually serious.
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« Reply #344 on: January 13, 2018, 09:01:42 am »

You people are kidding yourselves if you think it's all about money. You ever play Jenga? The B12 has already lost Nebraska, Colorado, Mizzou and A&M. OU and Texas are the lynchpins holding that league together. The day one of those two leaves the whole thing will come crashing down. If you don't think that could happen, see the Big East. If Arkansas leaves the SEC to join the B12, where do we go when the B12 topples? Mountain West?

In a way you're right that it is about money. Money is what drives conference realignment, but it's not as much about greed for the individual programs like Arkansas as it is being in a strong league that will be here in the future. When the day comes that OU and/or Texas determine the B12 puts them at a financial disadvantage they will be gone and the B12 will disintegrate or become irrelevant. It's naive to think otherwise.

Well said Hugo. Why in the world would Arkansas want to leave the SEC for a conference that has been on the verge of imploding for years?? That makes absolutely no sense at all.
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« Reply #345 on: January 13, 2018, 09:05:05 am »

Your partially right. But OU and Texas don't want to join another conference. They like being the Big dogs in a P5 conference. Which is really no different than Southern Cal in the PAC12 or Florida State in the ACC. They could have joined any other conference in 2012. But didn't. Now I'm not advocating a move to the Big 12. I would prefer we all get together and build a new conference.

I agree with you about Texas, they aren't going anywhere. Oklahoma is a different story in that they've seriously considered leaving before. I still believe that OU and Oklahoma State will eventually become part of the SEC West which will look something like this:

SEC WEST

Arkansas
LSU
Miss State
Ole Miss
Missouri
Texas A&M
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State

SEC EAST

Alabama
Auburn
Georgia
Florida
Kentucky
South Carolina
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Re: SEC or Big 12
« Reply #346 on: January 13, 2018, 09:25:13 am »

This is true and you make some great points about the B12. I think that they know that they need to expand and they explored that looking at 6 or so teams, but their findings were that the teams that they studied, didn't bring enough added value to the Big 12. That of course means that financially they didn't bring enough of a dedicated t.v. draw to the conference.

The improbable/next to impossible scenario that would best benefit the B12, while not terribly damaging other conferences in the process, would be if they could reach an agreement with either ESPN or Fox (or a combination of the two) that if they could get to 14 major teams they would be assured of a conference payout that rivaled that of the SEC or Big Ten. If that agreement could be reached (darn near impossible though) they might be able to reach out to Nebraska, Missouri, A&M and Arkansas with the idea in mind of "getting the band back together + 1". That highly unlikely scenario would restore stability to the Big 12. Of course, more equal revenue sharing for all schools would have to be a part of the agreement or this would be dead in the water.

Would the Big Ten have a problem replacing Nebraska? Nope. Would the SEC have a hard time replacing Missouri, A&M and Arkansas? I don't think so.

But the odds of all of this all coming together is Slim and none and "Slim" is on his way out of town.

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Re: SEC or Big 12
« Reply #347 on: January 13, 2018, 09:42:01 am »

Your partially right. But OU and Texas don't want to join another conference. They like being the Big dogs in a P5 conference. Which is really no different than Southern Cal in the PAC12 or Florida State in the ACC. They could have joined any other conference in 2012. But didn't. Now I'm not advocating a move to the Big 12. I would prefer we all get together and build a new conference.

Hugo's post was great.  This post illustrates that conference affiliation is also about location.  Where would Southern Cal go? 

Arkansas is a tweener where location is concerned.  There are probably more campuses within easy driving distance of Fayetteville and Arkansas fans in the Big 12 than the SEC.  Conferences aligned themselves by region from the beginning.  All sports at all levels do this.  Rivalries are built upon proximity.  Arkansas has more natural border rivalries in the SEC, but they aren't as developed as they were in the SWC. 

Realignment has left a few teams like West Virgina isolated.  Nebraska isn't a good geographic fit for the Big 10.  Colorado is a stretch for the PAC 12.  Texas makes no sense there. The SEC and ACC are the only two P5 conferences that overlap significantly.  FSU fits in either conference.

The Big 12 is the weakest P5 conference.  Its members will eventually be absorbed into one of 4 or 8 eight-team conferences that will make up 64 teams in the upper division of what is now the FBS.  The playoff system will drive this, but so will the lack of equilibrium that currently exists within the system.  This NCAA realignment will restore equilibrium and symmetry by region, with emphasis on preserving natural existing rivalries. 

Major realignment between G5 and P5 schools is the only thing that makes sense going forward.  When that happens, those who believe Arkansas is better off looking west may get their wish.
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Re: SEC or Big 12
« Reply #348 on: January 13, 2018, 10:01:21 am »

Can just imagine how tough it must be to be a newbie on 15 year old forum.

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Win_Friends_and_Influence_People
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Re: SEC or Big 12
« Reply #349 on: January 13, 2018, 10:29:53 am »

This thread is retarded.

In the immortal words of Jim Harrick "consider the source".
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