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Re: It's going to take a lot
« Reply #200 on: January 10, 2018, 01:55:55 pm »

To answer his question about OK State.....facilities and oil money to pump into the program. And a winning system and coach. That matters.

Arkansas can't compete with T. Boone Pickens money. Or all his oil money buddies.

More importantly, the greatest mullet of all time
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Re: It's going to take a lot
« Reply #201 on: January 10, 2018, 02:03:10 pm »

To answer his question about OK State.....facilities and oil money to pump into the program. And a winning system and coach. That matters.

Arkansas can't compete with T. Boone Pickens money. Or all his oil money buddies.
You don't think the billionaires with Arkansas connections can compete with T. Boone Pickens?  They may choose not give at the level he does, but they are more than capable of doing so.
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Re: It's going to take a lot
« Reply #202 on: January 10, 2018, 02:04:31 pm »

It is an open question as to whether T. Boone is even a billionaire anymore.
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Re: It's going to take a lot
« Reply #203 on: January 10, 2018, 02:07:43 pm »

You don't think the billionaires with Arkansas connections can compete with T. Boone Pickens?  They may choose not give at the level he does, but they are more than capable of doing so.

Unless he is giving to buy players, so what. They have good facilities and so do the hogs. they pay their coaches alot, so do the hogs.
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Re: It's going to take a lot
« Reply #204 on: January 10, 2018, 02:08:41 pm »

You don't think the billionaires with Arkansas connections can compete with T. Boone Pickens?  They may choose not give at the level he does, but they are more than capable of doing so.

Oil money>that walmart money.

Always will be. No matter how bad it hurts.
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Re: It's going to take a lot
« Reply #205 on: January 10, 2018, 02:09:43 pm »

Unless he is giving to buy players, so what. They have good facilities and so do the hogs. they pay their coaches alot, so do the hogs.

They also have a system that is working for the type of player they are recruiting. From TEXAS. Think over 75% of their roster is Texas kids. They have the formula figured out on how to compete.
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Re: It's going to take a lot
« Reply #206 on: January 10, 2018, 02:09:54 pm »

To answer his question about OK State.....facilities and oil money to pump into the program. And a winning system and coach. That matters.

Arkansas can't compete with T. Boone Pickens money. Or all his oil money buddies.

Jerry Jones has more money than T. Boone Pickens ever thought about having.
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Re: It's going to take a lot
« Reply #207 on: January 10, 2018, 02:11:56 pm »

Jerry Jones has more money than T. Boone Pickens ever thought about having.

So how come the stadium and field isn't named after Jerry Jones......if he is such a big contributor and advocate of UoAF?
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Re: It's going to take a lot
« Reply #208 on: January 10, 2018, 02:13:06 pm »

They also have a system that is working for the type of player they are recruiting. From TEXAS. Think over 75% of their roster is Texas kids. They have the formula figured out on how to compete.

On how to compete in the Big12.

My brother got his doctorate at OSU, he is a big time fan and all he does is gripe about the football program and how it is never going to win anything of consequence as long as they treat defense as optional.
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Re: It's going to take a lot
« Reply #209 on: January 10, 2018, 02:14:28 pm »

Jerry Jones has more money than T. Boone Pickens ever thought about having.

The internet tells me T Boone Pickens has a net worth of $500 million (as of 2016) while Jerry has a net worth of $5.6 billion.  He's doing alright for himself.
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Re: It's going to take a lot
« Reply #210 on: January 10, 2018, 02:14:35 pm »

They also have a system that is working for the type of player they are recruiting. From TEXAS. Think over 75% of their roster is Texas kids. They have the formula figured out on how to compete.
To compete with TEXAS or TEXAS dependent programs. 
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Re: It's going to take a lot
« Reply #211 on: January 10, 2018, 02:15:12 pm »

So how come the stadium and field isn't named after Jerry Jones......if he is such a big contributor and advocate of UoAF?

I cannot answer that, but I can say that your original statement, "Arkansas can't compete with T. Boone Pickens money." is false, because it can.
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Re: It's going to take a lot
« Reply #212 on: January 10, 2018, 02:16:14 pm »

On how to compete in the Big12.

My brother got his doctorate at OSU, he is a big time fan and all he does is gripe about the football program and how it is never going to win anything of consequence as long as they treat defense as optional.

Oh how to compete in the SEC..................which we don't regularly do.

At least the big 12 had a team in the playoff.....for a conference of little "consequence".
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Re: It's going to take a lot
« Reply #213 on: January 10, 2018, 02:16:22 pm »

So how come the stadium and field isn't named after Jerry Jones......if he is such a big contributor and advocate of UoAF?

because he has given other things to the UofA not just football stuff.
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Re: It's going to take a lot
« Reply #214 on: January 10, 2018, 02:16:50 pm »

So how come the stadium and field isn't named after Jerry Jones......if he is such a big contributor and advocate of UoAF?

Maybe he doesn't want it to be?

Maybe the student-athlete center is enough for him?

Or...maybe he doesn't want it to be?
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Re: It's going to take a lot
« Reply #215 on: January 10, 2018, 02:17:38 pm »

That take just makes no sense at all.

You're telling me a coaching staff did not play the players and lineup that they thought would give them the best chance of winning to "take heat" away from them?

Don't buy that for one second.


Sat there and watched it 5 years



Even creamy smooth Kingsbury can spread the field and isolate on your not fast enough 250lbs linebacker if you are too freaking lazy to prepare a proper nickle package
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Re: It's going to take a lot
« Reply #216 on: January 10, 2018, 02:20:20 pm »


Sat there and watched it 5 years



Even creamy smooth Kingsbury can spread the field and isolate on your not fast enough 250lbs linebacker if you are too freaking lazy to prepare a proper nickle package

So they intentionally failed? Ok. Sure.
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Re: It's going to take a lot
« Reply #217 on: January 10, 2018, 02:22:20 pm »

I like it when people project their personal feelings as fact. You say the last staff was lazy. Do you know the amount of hours they put into communicating with HS prospects? How much film they watched? They had faults in other areas that can be picked at rather than making things up.


Starting a nowhere near ready true frosh from down the road on the OL is the definition of lazy
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Re: It's going to take a lot
« Reply #218 on: January 10, 2018, 02:22:37 pm »

So how come the stadium and field isn't named after Jerry Jones......if he is such a big contributor and advocate of UoAF?

Have you been to the University's Football Hall of Champions lately?? It's named after Jerry Jones and Jim Lindsey.
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Re: It's going to take a lot
« Reply #219 on: January 10, 2018, 02:23:07 pm »

So they intentionally failed? Ok. Sure.

IMO they were lazy and biased

Thought they could Wisconsin it......
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Re: It's going to take a lot
« Reply #220 on: January 10, 2018, 02:26:25 pm »

Oh how to compete in the SEC..................which we don't regularly do.

At least the big 12 had a team in the playoff.....for a conference of little "consequence".

where did I say the conference was of little consequence? I was talking about OSu and OSU only.
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Re: It's going to take a lot
« Reply #221 on: January 10, 2018, 02:32:00 pm »

So they intentionally failed? Ok. Sure.
He didn't say that at all. He said they were lazy, two different concepts.
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Re: It's going to take a lot
« Reply #222 on: January 10, 2018, 02:33:39 pm »

He didn't say that at all. He said they were lazy, two different concepts.

A great Arkansan once said, “Everybody wants to win, but not everybody wants to prepare to
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Re: It's going to take a lot
« Reply #223 on: January 10, 2018, 02:33:50 pm »

IMO they were lazy and biased

Thought they could Wisconsin it......

MyBoyCanaan: You're telling me a coaching staff did not play the players and lineup that they thought would give them the best chance of winning to "take heat" away from them?

IronHog: Sat there and watched it 5 years


Your words. Not mine. That is saying they intentionally failed.
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Re: It's going to take a lot
« Reply #224 on: January 10, 2018, 02:33:53 pm »

We have to start with a great defense and built it inside out. I really disappointed with the new DC, he has seen his better days. We need someone who can create a since of urgency and can recruit to that level. I think this will be our achilles heel.
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Re: It's going to take a lot
« Reply #225 on: January 10, 2018, 02:34:54 pm »

A great Arkansan once said, “Everybody wants to win, but not everybody wants to prepare to
win.”
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Re: It's going to take a lot
« Reply #226 on: January 10, 2018, 02:37:51 pm »

MyBoyCanaan: You're telling me a coaching staff did not play the players and lineup that they thought would give them the best chance of winning to "take heat" away from them?

IronHog: Sat there and watched it 5 years


Your words. Not mine. That is saying they intentionally failed.

Hog fans are trying several remedies for the hurt of the last few seasons.

Coaches were not trying

Coaches were not playing the best players

Coaches were not recruiting the best in state players only white boys from NWA

Players have to want it

Just got to get 2 and 3 star kids and coach em up

Spread offense - nuff said

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Re: It's going to take a lot
« Reply #227 on: January 10, 2018, 02:39:44 pm »

Oil money>that walmart money.

Always will be. No matter how bad it hurts.

Pretty sure the Walton's and Tyson's got more money than T. Boone
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« Reply #228 on: January 10, 2018, 02:43:58 pm »

Hog fans are trying several remedies for the hurt of the last few seasons.

Coaches were not trying

Coaches were not playing the best players

Coaches were not recruiting the best in state players only white boys from NWA

Players have to want it

Just got to get 2 and 3 star kids and coach em up

Spread offense - nuff said




Or let’s throw screens to the blocker while Gragg sits on the bench


Last staff left B.B. the best two linebackers of the past 30 years and they start a transfer from Air Force that was MAYBE a DII player


I can do this all day
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Re: It's going to take a lot
« Reply #229 on: January 10, 2018, 02:45:02 pm »

MyBoyCanaan: You're telling me a coaching staff did not play the players and lineup that they thought would give them the best chance of winning to "take heat" away from them?

IronHog: Sat there and watched it 5 years


Your words. Not mine. That is saying they intentionally failed.

The fact that people actually believe this is laughable
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« Reply #230 on: January 10, 2018, 02:46:06 pm »


Or let’s throw screens to the blocker while Gragg sits on the bench


Last staff left B.B. the best two linebackers of the past 30 years and they start a transfer from Air Force that was MAYBE a DII player


I can do this all day

Maybe...just maybe...they didn't actually have favorites or were lazy...

Maybe Bielema was just actually a really bad coach who wouldn't let his coordinators have full reign?
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« Reply #231 on: January 10, 2018, 02:48:01 pm »

The fact that people actually believe this is laughable


I said lazy


Y’all went with the conspiracy theory BS
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« Reply #232 on: January 10, 2018, 02:48:21 pm »

Maybe...just maybe...they didn't actually have favorites or were lazy...

Maybe Bielema was just actually a really bad coach who wouldn't let his coordinators have full reign?

What a concept!
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« Reply #233 on: January 10, 2018, 02:48:29 pm »

Maybe...just maybe...they didn't actually have favorites or were lazy...

Maybe Bielema was just actually a really bad coach who wouldn't let his coordinators have full reign?


What’s the difference?
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« Reply #234 on: January 10, 2018, 02:49:02 pm »


Or let’s throw screens to the blocker while Gragg sits on the bench


Last staff left B.B. the best two linebackers of the past 30 years and they start a transfer from Air Force that was MAYBE a DII player


I can do this all day

Was Bielema an operative from the B1G trying to crumble the SEC from within?

You gotta either be schizophrenic or Randy Quaid.
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« Reply #235 on: January 10, 2018, 02:49:28 pm »


I said lazy


Y’all went with the conspiracy theory BS

Please reread the last few posts. Good lord. You literally confirmed that is what you believed.
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« Reply #236 on: January 10, 2018, 02:50:13 pm »


What’s the difference?

What's the difference between being lazy and being bad at something?

Are you serious?
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« Reply #237 on: January 10, 2018, 03:30:34 pm »

Was Bielema an operative from the B1G trying to crumble the SEC from within?

You gotta either be schizophrenic or Randy Quaid.


Incompetent, lazy, or worked hard at being that bad


Take your pick
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« Reply #238 on: January 10, 2018, 03:32:31 pm »


Incompetent, lazy, or worked hard at being that bad


Take your pick

I had to work, to become the jerk, I’ve come to be.
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Re: It's going to take a lot
« Reply #239 on: January 10, 2018, 03:54:35 pm »

Oil money>that walmart money.

Always will be. No matter how bad it hurts.
Seriously.  You think T. Boone Pickens net worth is greater than any single one of the Wal-Mart heirs?  Or Johnelle Hunt?  Or Warren Stephens? Or John Tyson?

Or jerry Jones?  And yes I know some of Jones net worth is derived from oil.

These are just the Arkansans taken from the Forbes 400.  There could others outside the 400 that have a higher net worth than Pickens since the oil bust.
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« Reply #240 on: January 10, 2018, 04:27:20 pm »

Oil money>that walmart money.

Always will be. No matter how bad it hurts.

One reads some of the most comical stuff around this place.


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Re: It's going to take a lot
« Reply #241 on: January 11, 2018, 09:02:39 am »

I’m gonna have to disagree with this. Petrino’s classes werent all that special. We’ll most likely never be like Alabama but we can be in the top 10 every few years with the right coach
Game planning, being prepared, being able to make the best in game coaching decisions are what can somewhat even the playing field against teams like bama.

Petrino was a great enough playcaller, smart enough leader, he was able to take the talent he was able to get along with a couple highly talented guys like Ryan Mallett, and make it work, for the most part. But even his teams were 0-4 against bama.

Bielema just proved to be too bad of an in game decision maker. Shame too.

And I might add in order to be able to have a shot against the bamas of the college football world, Arkansas has to up it's game in recruiting some. You can have the best, most genius playcaller ever, but there has to be some talent to work with too. Petrino couldn't consistently make that work. Bielema did better in recruiting, but coaching, as in clutch decision making weren't like they should be. Morris should watch game tape from the last couple years of hog games, and understand what needs to be done. We will see if he's up for it. I sincerely hope he is.
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