Where does your state rank in producing Power 5 recruits the past 10 years?

[jbcarol]

Ross Dellenger‏Verified account @RossDellenger

ICYMI | Where does your state rank in producing Power 5 recruits the past 10 years? Texas, Florida, California, Georgia, Ohio.

Per capita rankings:
1 Georgia
2 Mississippi
3 Louisiana
4 Florida
5 Alabama

http://bit.ly/2CBi2As

[Bubba's Bruisers]

Ross Dellenger‏Verified account @RossDellenger

ICYMI | Where does your state rank in producing Power 5 recruits the past 10 years? Texas, Florida, California, Georgia, Ohio.

Per capita rankings:
1 Georgia
2 Mississippi
3 Louisiana
4 Florida
5 Alabama

http://bit.ly/2CBi2As

Which is why the SEC is usually the king of football.

[hogsanity]

This chart should be stickied on both MMQB and the recruiting forum and automatically inserted anytime anyone says Arkansas produces plenty of talent.

119 p5 recruits, and that would count players signed by the hogs that were not recruited by any other p5 school.

[cjack]

Right around the top 25, along with almost every other stat, which is why we should always be around the top 25 in win/loss

[HogPokerPlayer]

Right around the top 25, along with almost every other stat, which is why we should always be around the top 25 in win/loss

Don't think that logic computes like that.

[je100]

Don't think that logic computes like that.

Right.  So, NYU should finish right around the top 25 every year too.

Underachievers.

[hogsanity]

Right around the top 25, along with almost every other stat, which is why we should always be around the top 25 in win/loss

Except top 25 is only about 10th in the sec. In this case, the only sec state with fewer p5 recruits is Kentucky. As has been pointed out before, when 9 or 10 schools in your league are signing better players every year you are going to lose too many games to be in the top 25.

[bville_hog]

10 of Arkansas 118 came from Fayetteville HS

[010HogFan]

Right around the top 25, along with almost every other stat, which is why we should always be around the top 25 in win/loss

[racinghog]

One

[hogsanity]

why am I not surprised this thread gets no play.

[azhog10]

Ross Dellenger‏Verified account @RossDellenger

ICYMI | Where does your state rank in producing Power 5 recruits the past 10 years? Texas, Florida, California, Georgia, Ohio.

Per capita rankings:
1 Georgia
2 Mississippi
3 Louisiana
4 Florida
5 Alabama

http://bit.ly/2CBi2As

This topic is brought up every year. I guess we should just accept this and realize we will never have a top 5 team in the country....Its not like a Michigan or Indiana school is competing for a national championships from time to time......

[cjack]

Right.  So, NYU should finish right around the top 25 every year too.

Underachievers.

My comment was to stir up old Hogsanity.  Nothing else.

[hogsanity]

This topic is brought up every year. I guess we should just accept this and realize we will never have a top 5 team in the country....Its not like a Michigan or Indiana school is competing for a national championships from time to time......

I do not think that points that out. I do think it points out the fallacy of thinking that recruiting Arkansas MORE is going to fix anything. This renewed fixation, among some, that Morris needs to be spending more time trying to sign instate players is ludicrous.

[ChicoHog]

And the top 4 states produce about as much as the other 46 combined.  Amazing stats.  I think the one that surprises me the most is North Carolina.  None of those colleges have capitalized on their home grown talent.  Clemson, Florida, Georgia, Tennessee, Va Tech etc., raid that state regularly.  And they have 4 Power 5 schools also.  Ohio has one.  Big advantage there. 

[hogsanity]

And the top 4 states produce about as much as the other 46 combined.  Amazing stats.  I think the one that surprises me the most is North Carolina.  None of those colleges have capitalized on their home grown talent.  Clemson, Florida, Georgia, Tennessee, Va Tech etc., raid that state regularly.  And they have 4 Power 5 schools also.  Ohio has one.  Big advantage there. 

One thing that is tough to know is how many of the p5 players from each state signed with a p5 school in state. So, in NC for instance, how many kids signed with NC/NCST/DUKE/WAKE but really had no other p5 offers.

Same for Arkansas, the numbers show almost 12 p5 signees every year, but I'd bet well over half of those signed with AR and had no other p5 offers.

[Atlhogfan1]

This chart should be stickied on both MMQB and the recruiting forum and automatically inserted anytime anyone says Arkansas produces plenty of talent.

119 p5 recruits, and that would count players signed by the hogs that were not recruited by any other p5 school.

Lots of answers in there but it kills the dreamers' reaches.  "How did Penn St recover so quickly?  We should be able to do what Penn St is."  Sure.  Ignore 10, 11 and 13 states on this list. 

And the top 4 states produce about as much as the other 46 combined.  Amazing stats.  I think the one that surprises me the most is North Carolina.  None of those colleges have capitalized on their home grown talent.  Clemson, Florida, Georgia, Tennessee, Va Tech etc., raid that state regularly.  And they have 4 Power 5 schools also.  Ohio has one.  Big advantage there. 

NC's population has exploded with transplants from the NE and upper Midwest just as north Ga has.  UNC could be much better with the right coach but the culture there is basketball.  It's why Clemson has such a huge advantage in the ACC.  An SEC school in its culture and emphasis playing in a basketball centric conference. 

[ChicoHog]

Lots of answers in there but it kills the dreamers' reaches.  "How did Penn St recover so quickly?  We should be able to do what Penn St is."  Sure.  Ignore 10, 11 and 13 states on this list. 

NC's population has exploded with transplants from the NE and upper Midwest just as north Ga has.  UNC could be much better with the right coach but the culture there is basketball.  It's why Clemson has such a huge advantage in the ACC.  An SEC school in its culture and emphasis playing in a basketball centric conference. 

Great point.  UNC, Duke, WF and even NC st value basketball as much or maybe even more than football which you can only say for about 10 schools in the entire country.    I think Davis had UNC going in the right direction until the academic scandal thing hit. If they invest in football they could be a power.   Also hogsanity had good point about power 5 offers vs group of five offers.  that would be a great breakdown. 

[DLUXHOG]

Ross Dellenger‏Verified account @RossDellenger

ICYMI | Where does your state rank in producing Power 5 recruits the past 10 years? Texas, Florida, California, Georgia, Ohio.

Per capita rankings:
1 Georgia
2 Mississippi
3 Louisiana
4 Florida
5 Alabama

http://bit.ly/2CBi2As

Per capita, per schmapita, Texas has almost twice as many of these recruits as Georgia and the rest of this "per capita" list......and the 4th largest MSA in the U.S.(DFW) is only a 4.5 hour drive from Fayetteville!

[Bubba's Bruisers]

I do not think that points that out. I do think it points out the fallacy of thinking that recruiting Arkansas MORE is going to fix anything. This renewed fixation, among some, that Morris needs to be spending more time trying to sign instate players is ludicrous.

I think this is fairly dishonest.  I don't think most are saying in-state recruits will fix things.  Just that given we are a state with such limited resources, we need to get every truly SEC caliber kid the state produces.  We just can't afford many misses.  For example, GB, while not a make or break, is a very important recruit for us this year.  Like Brooks, Tenpenny, Hill and Frazier have been in the recent past.

[redeye]

Same for Arkansas, the numbers show almost 12 p5 signees every year, but I'd bet well over half of those signed with AR and had no other p5 offers.

We've also missed on quite a few and need fewer misses to be successful, imo.  The trend of signing so-so players in NWA needs to stop.  It reeks of lazy recruiting.

I'd also guess that most of those in NC are legit. 

[hogsanity]

We've also missed on quite a few and need fewer misses to be successful, imo.  The trend of signing so-so players in NWA needs to stop.  It reeks of lazy recruiting.

I'd also guess that most of those in NC are legit. 

Can you imagine if we had a class of 25 and only signed 4 or 5 in state kids? This place would melt down.

As for NC, that is the thing, we do not know where they signed or what other offers they had.

[redeye]

Can you imagine if we had a class of 25 and only signed 4 or 5 in state kids? This place would melt down.

As for NC, that is the thing, we do not know where they signed or what other offers they had.

NC produces good talent and I suspect they receive a lot of good offers.  Chris Smith wasn't even rated that high, but he was great for Arkansas.

[jbcarol]

Ross Dellenger‏Verified account @RossDellenger

AM | Part IV of @davidching77 and I's recruiting series: Texas, Florida and California combined to produce ~5,500 Power 5 football players over the past decade.

The other 47 states: ~9,000.

The Big 3 are a must for every staff

Like it or not, most college football coaching staffs recruit more outside of their state's boundaries than inside. The talent disparity among states is behind this practice.

How gaping is it? Just look to Florida.

One high school in Fort Lauderdale, St. Thomas Aquinas, produced 71 Power 5 signees over the past decade — more than 16 states produced during that span.

Florida produced 371 Power 5 defensive backs in the past decade. Texas produced 378 Power 5 defensive backs. Illinois cranked out 373 overall signees over that stretch. And Illinois is 12th nationally in overall major conference signees since 2008.

The Big Three produce the most major college football players: Texas (2,036 major conference signees), Florida (1,874) and California (1,641). Georgia (1,240) is fourth and cranked out nearly twice the amount of signees as the fifth-ranked state, Ohio (699).

[DLUXHOG]

This topic is brought up every year. I guess we should just accept this and realize we will never have a top 5 team in the country....Its not like a Michigan or Indiana school is competing for a national championships from time to time......

No, it simply means we should be recruiting the heck out of Texas.... and own it!