WWE fans suck ass.

[TomasPistola]

Booing the Bray Wyatt segment tonight. That was heel gold. A damn good promo. Those idiots were chanting boring. I'd like to personally bitch slap everyone of them.

[Big Papa Satan]

I'd like to personally bitch slap everyone of them.

You would do that to kids?

[TomasPistola]

You would do that to kids?

No, but I would their parents. Let them raise their own kids.

[Big Papa Satan]

For shame.  WWE crowds appreciate the wholesomeness of a bold, fresh character in Cena, not some tired, old clichéd swamp preacher in Wyatt.

They were merely voicing their opinion of what they want.

[The_Iceman]

The WWE should have let Wyatt beat Cena at Wrestlemania. Hell, they let Brock beat the Streak.

[Big Boi]

The WWE should have let Wyatt beat Cena at Wrestlemania. Hell, they let Brock beat the Streak.

I agree 100% Why even have the Wyatt vs Cena program if Bray doesn't go over. It hurt Brays character and boosted Cena none.

[JansterZ71]

Anyone who watches WWE is white trash & 90% chance did not graduate from a reputable University.

[Eddie Goodson]

Anyone who watches WWE is white trash & 90% chance did not graduate from a reputable University.

See you in about a week.

[Dr. Starcs]

I will admit I flipped thru the channels last night and stopped on wwe b/c I saw a hot blonde chick. She was talking in a horribly fake Russian accent but still.

Anyway, the guy she was talking to was pro-American. But he had to get political with one of his statements. I turned the channel.

It's sad when you can't watch sports or entertainment anymore without the product pushing agendas. It used to be a nice escape from all that.

[Richard_white]

Bray Wyatt was handed a shovel after his fued with Cena. Nobody will take him serious.

[TomasPistola]

For shame.  WWE crowds appreciate the wholesomeness of a bold, fresh character in Cena, not some tired, old clichéd swamp preacher in Wyatt.

They were merely voicing their opinion of what they want.

Doesn't make them right.

[TomasPistola]

Bray Wyatt was handed a shovel after his fued with Cena. Nobody will take him serious.

I agree, was really odd that Cena went over the entire time - yet not unexpected.

[Richard_white]

I agree, was really odd that Cena went over the entire time - yet not unexpected.

But WWE rented Y2J to put Bray over......

[Big Papa Satan]

But WWE rented Y2J to put Bray over......

That's because Jericho will do business.

Hell, he asked to and did put Cena over years ago when JC was a nobody.

[Richard_white]

That's because Jericho will do business.

Hell, he asked to and did put Cena over years ago when JC was a nobody.

I agree. I figured this would happen to Bray after mania.  It's just too bad. I was a fan of his.

[Richard_white]

But WWE rented Y2J to put Bray over......

My mistake.  They rented Y2J not to put over Bray but have Bray put Y2J over.

[Eddie Goodson]

Lord help. They are beginning an extended feud. Last night was only scene one. This will take place over several months.

[ThrillaHog]

Lord help. They are beginning an extended feud. Last night was only scene one. This will take place over several months.

Bray is officially buried. Nice job WWE. You destroyed the best thing on your already trash programming. Bray was on his way to being an elite top guy but no longer has a shred of credibility.

[Eddie Goodson]

Disagree completely.

[jbell96]

I will admit I flipped thru the channels last night and stopped on wwe b/c I saw a hot blonde chick. She was talking in a horribly fake Russian accent but still.

She was born in Florida, but her accent isn't fake. She lived in Latvia for many years while growing up, her dad was a missionary, so I'm sure she picked up a bit of an accent while living there.

[Big Papa Satan]

Bray is officially buried. Nice job WWE. You destroyed the best thing on your already trash programming. Bray was on his way to being an elite top guy but no longer has a shred of credibility.

Everything now is going to set up Summerslam - Jericho will put over Wyatt then at the 2nd biggest show of the year.

[Big Papa Satan]

Speaking of that...

Possible Cena vs Lesnar SS vid leaked

[Doug]

Sometimes not winning a match will put someone over even more. Bray certainly didn't miss a beat tonight.

[Richard_white]

Lord help. They are beginning an extended feud. Last night was only scene one. This will take place over several months.

Like the fued with Cena?  With the crowd chanting boring during Bray's promo isn't what you call getting over.  Maybe at SS Y2J will put Bray over but not cleanly. 

If anyone wants to make a friendly wager, How about next Wrestle Mania our boy Bray Wyatt will still be a mid carder?

[Eddie Goodson]

I guess the five thousand cell phones waving as he enters doesn't say anything either. The feud with Cena brought him to the top and now the feud with Jericho is going to establish him as a true heel. The only issue with the feud with Cena is that the crowd is split on Cena and it is difficult for a heel to draw heat. This is the reason they brought in Jericho. They knew they needed him to go up against someone who would be over with the whole crowd and they didn't want to kill the push of any of their other up and comers. Punk leaving and Bryan getting hurt has left a vacuum on the face side of the equation. Jericho perfectly fills the bill. Bray is going to come out of this as a true heel. He'll probably only be behind HHH, Steph, and Orton after Summer Slam. I'm waiting for the eventual time they turn Wyatt face and he goes against HHH. His 'rage against the establishment' character will be massively popular. All I have read is that will happen by year's end and could be where they take him into Wrestlemania.

[GreenwayTigerHog]

I don't watch much anymore but Bray keeps my attention and also Ambrose.  I thought the Cesaro v Ambrose match last night was great.  Cesaro gets points for not wearing those goofy looking headbands on his thighs any more. 

[Dr. Starcs]

I watched a little last night. The camera angles were giving me a headache. I guess I never really noticed it until last night as I haven't regularly watched since the 90s.

Too many close ups and shakiness for me. Is it always like that?  I'd rather them just show the action from a zoomed out shot and then in the down time, do the close ups.

[jbell96]

WWE is keeping up with the theme of good Raw's on the night after a PPV.

Ziggler vs Miz was fantastic, Bray Wyatt cut another phenomenal promo, got to see part of my fantasy, Stephanie McMahon in handcuffs, and Paul Heyman delivering one of the best promos I've heard in some time.

[Big Papa Satan]

All I have read is that will happen by year's end and could be where they take him into Wrestlemania.

So who do you run with Lesnar at next year's WM main event - Reigns or Wyatt?

[jbell96]

I guess the five thousand cell phones waving as he enters doesn't say anything either. The feud with Cena brought him to the top and now the feud with Jericho is going to establish him as a true heel. The only issue with the feud with Cena is that the crowd is split on Cena and it is difficult for a heel to draw heat. This is the reason they brought in Jericho. They knew they needed him to go up against someone who would be over with the whole crowd and they didn't want to kill the push of any of their other up and comers. Punk leaving and Bryan getting hurt has left a vacuum on the face side of the equation. Jericho perfectly fills the bill. Bray is going to come out of this as a true heel. He'll probably only be behind HHH, Steph, and Orton after Summer Slam. I'm waiting for the eventual time they turn Wyatt face and he goes against HHH. His 'rage against the establishment' character will be massively popular. All I have read is that will happen by year's end and could be where they take him into Wrestlemania.

Eddie, I agree that Bray will be a top guy within a year, but that Cena feud didn't do anything for him. In my eyes, the Daniel Bryan feud did more for him than the one he had with Cena. He lost to Cena clean on two occasions & his only win required the help of Harper, Rowan, and a 9 year old with a demon voice. The amount of help he got in that cage match was ridiculous.

[Eddie Goodson]

Big Papa, I think they should build to a Reigns Lesnar main event at WM. To do that they are going to have to keep them apart till then and I think that is going to be hard to do.

[Big Papa Satan]

Big Papa, I think they should build to a Reigns Lesnar main event at WM. To do that they are going to have to keep them apart till then and I think that is going to be hard to do.

I would go with this - Lesnar is a monster with a push based off that, and I don't think Wyatt could be a credible threat, physically.  Reigns could.

Problem is, if they keep the belt on Brock from August to April, they're going to need quite a few faces to feed to him.  They don't have those at the moment.

[Eddie Goodson]

I would go with this - Lesnar is a monster with a push based off that, and I don't think Wyatt could be a credible threat, physically.  Reigns could.

Problem is, if they keep the belt on Brock from August to April, they're going to need quite a few faces to feed to him.  They don't have those at the moment.

Jim Ross believes the main event at WM will be Lesnar and Reigns and Reigns will become champion. This would have to mean that Reigns will win the Royal Rumble as well.

[Eddie Goodson]

As far a Bray Wyatt goes, I think I'll stick with Jim Ross' opinion on him:

It's somewhat insane for some fans to think that Bray Wyatt losing at Battle Ground to Chris Jericho was disastrous to Bray's career which is actually laughable. Working with Jericho, who arguably should be the heel in this marriage, will do nothing but help Wyatt improve and Bray will undoubtedly win the blow off down the road.

[Big Papa Satan]

I listen to Ross' podcast most weeks.  Good eye for the business, but Reigns-Lesnar does seem a little obvious.  There's Danielson when he comes back, but could he be a credible challenger to Lesnar?  In a shoot, Brock would break him in half.

Heard a number of old timers talk glowingly about Wyatt.  When you've got Jake Roberts praising your psychology, you're doing something right.

[Eddie Goodson]

I listen to Ross' podcast most weeks.  Good eye for the business, but Reigns-Lesnar does seem a little obvious.  There's Danielson when he comes back, but could he be a credible challenger to Lesnar?  In a shoot, Brock would break him in half.

Heard a number of old timers talk glowingly about Wyatt.  When you've got Jake Roberts praising your psychology, you're doing something right.

I'm beginning to wonder if Bryan isn't in the same boat as Peyton Manning. I am not so sure this may not take him a year or more to get over, if he does at all. It is going to take time for the nerve to regenerate. Sure, Bryan could probably use some questionable medications to possibly aid him in a recovery that Manning couldn't but I do not think Bryan's holistic lifestyle will let him do it. I am concerned for his future.

[hvsupastar]

I think it's time we step back and look at this. Paul Heyman man be having the best run as a manager in the history of pro wrestling. His promos are unbelievable. Herman right there, but Idk that the brain was ever this impactful

[Big Papa Satan]

It is going to take time for the nerve to regenerate.

Years, if ever.  Two years this week since my back surgery, I still have nerve damage.  It heals verrrry slowly.

Even if it does or it doesn't, he (or nobody else) shouldn't risk his health the way a Kurt Angle has.  Multiple times breaking his neck, severe pain leading to drug and alcohol addiction.  Angle's a case of what not to do.

[Eddie Goodson]

I think it's time we step back and look at this. Paul Heyman man be having the best run as a manager in the history of pro wrestling. His promos are unbelievable. Herman right there, but Idk that the brain was ever this impactful

Agreed.

[Eddie Goodson]

Years, if ever.  Two years this week since my back surgery, I still have nerve damage.  It heals verrrry slowly.

Even if it does or it doesn't, he (or nobody else) shouldn't risk his health the way a Kurt Angle has.  Multiple times breaking his neck, severe pain leading to drug and alcohol addiction.  Angle's a case of what not to do.

Exactly.

[Big Boi]

So who do you run with Lesnar at next year's WM main event - Reigns or Wyatt?

Reigns vs Lesnar would be awful. They have 11 moves between them.

[TomasPistola]

Reigns vs Lesnar would be awful. They have 11 moves between them.

Couldn't be any worse than Goldberg vs Lesner.

[hvsupastar]

Couldn't be any worse than Goldberg vs Lesner.

The only match worse than that was Hogan vs Warrior in WCW.  Anyways, I'm not a fan of Reigns vs Lesnar for 31 either.  Especially if Daniel Bryan and or cm punk is back in the picture by then

[Big Papa Satan]

The only match worse than that was Hogan vs Warrior in WCW.

Any Show vs Khali has to be up there. 

[hvsupastar]

Any Show vs Khali has to be up there. 

Did you ever see Hogan vs Warrior in WCW. Halloween havoc I believe. It's worth a watch if you haven't seen it. It's so bad it's funny, especially when Hogan uses the "fire ball"

[TomasPistola]

Did you ever see Hogan vs Warrior in WCW. Halloween havoc I believe. It's worth a watch if you haven't seen it. It's so bad it's funny, especially when Hogan uses the "fire ball"

[Big Papa Satan]

Did you ever see Hogan vs Warrior in WCW. Halloween havoc I believe. It's worth a watch if you haven't seen it. It's so bad it's funny, especially when Hogan uses the "fire ball"

I remember the night it was held. 

I still firmly believe that the only reason Warrior was brought in so that Hogan could finally pin him, "avenging" WM6.

[Eddie Goodson]

Two of the four men on wrestling's Mt Rushmore share a total of 3 moves and someone wants to knock Roman Reigns? Talk about freaking impossible to please.

[hvsupastar]

Two of the four men on wrestling's Mt Rushmore share a total of 3 moves and someone wants to knock Roman Reigns? Talk about freaking impossible to please.

That's true. But Reigns doesn't have the attraction of Andre or the charisma of Hogan. Will he by 31? Who knows, I wouldnt bet on it.  Like I said, as of now Bryan or punk or even rock is a better show to me

[Richard_white]

Two of the four men on wrestling's Mt Rushmore share a total of 3 moves and someone wants to knock Roman Reigns? Talk about freaking impossible to please.

OMG I agree.  Huge upside with Reigns.  Reigns needs to get better on the mic if you have to critique anything of him.