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widespreadsooie

Quote from: DadVader1 on October 30, 2013, 09:25:20 am
A few notes on rating systems picks to follow.  This is just raw picks data, unfiltered, so don't read too much into it.  These aren't my leans and are more just to help as you screen your leans.

NIU:  Most of the better systems like NIU, but a small number of the better systems pick Mass.
Syracuse:  The better systems are pretty evenly divided between Cuse and WF.
Arizona: Most of the systems like Zona, and it falls in a few nice trends, but a couple of my favorite systems like Cal.
ECU: The overwhelming majority of the systems like ECU.
Ore St.: A small majority of the better systems like Ore St., but that means a fair number of the better systems like USC
VA Tech: VA Tech falls in a few nice trends, but my four favorite systems are split 2-2, VT & BC.
GA Tech: The overwhelming majority of the systems like GT.
Miami: A small majority of the better systems like Miami, but that means a fair number of the better systems like FSU.

Thanks for that Vader. ECU might be my play of the week.

DadVader1

You're welcome. Don't place too much weight on the raw data. My favorite rating system only hits at 58%, and the next few are just over 55%, so your record at picking ATS is much better than theirs.

 

widespreadsooie

Quote from: DadVader1 on October 30, 2013, 10:53:07 am
You're welcome. Don't place too much weight on the raw data. My favorite rating system only hits at 58%, and the next few are just over 55%, so your record at picking ATS is much better than theirs.

Noted. This is easily the best I've ever done ATS so I'm still working on some confidence, second guessing myself is something that's bitten me in the past so I always like to see your raw data. It's a shame totals have been killing me lately. Thought they were going to be my forte at the beginning of the year.

DadVader1

Quote from: widespreadsooie on October 30, 2013, 10:59:36 am
It's a shame totals have been killing me lately. Thought they were going to be my forte at the beginning of the year.

After seeing you records of 62% ats and 50% totals, I was going to raise the question as to whether you might consider adjusting your strategies, kinda like me avoiding  the NFL and me "trying" to quit adding plays late in the week.

widespreadsooie

Quote from: DadVader1 on October 30, 2013, 11:32:01 am
After seeing you records of 62% ats and 50% totals, I was going to raise the question as to whether you might consider adjusting your strategies, kinda like me avoiding  the NFL and me "trying" to quit adding plays late in the week.

I'm beginning to consider it. I really like playing totals for some reason though. I've put myself under the impression teams are more consistent against totals than the spread, very well could be the opposite. We'll see how they go this week.

DadVader1

I got in enough data to finish my initial screening.  Here are my leans:

Aub -7.5
Houston -18
Minn. +10
Mizz -9.5
Rice +4.5
OK St. +3
AZ St. -11.5

I don't recall ever having 3 good weekends in a row, and this will be weekend number 3.  I'm hoping to break new ground here, but be forewarned that I'm due for a "correction." 

widespreadsooie

MEM/Cincy u45/ 3u

The reverse line movement on this game screams under, so I've been looking into some team stats for the past thirty minutes, and I really like it. Both teams play sound D, Memphis can't move the ball, both teams have the ability to eat up clock, prime time game on ESPN2. That's just the small bit I can think of off the top of the head.

Memphis- 16
Cincy- 13

Spikes

Took the day off yesterday, lets get back on track..

Memphis +2.5 (buy half point to +3) over Cincinnati (NCAA College Football) 4 star



St. Louis Cardinals / Boston Red Sox OVER 7 (Total Runs Scored in Game) (MLB Baseball) 2 star

Boston Red Sox -121 (moneyline) over the St. Louis Cardinals:  2 star, this pain me but got to bet with my head, not my heart...  Good things is red birds win then at least i will be happy!!

Toronto Raptors -8 over the Boston Celtics  (NBA Basketball) 3 star

As always guys, good luck!

You only have one life, so you better enjoy it!

DadVader1

Here's what I've done so far.  5 units each on:

Aub -8
Houston -18
Minn. +10
Mizz -9.5
Rice +4.5
AZ St. -11.5

I'm a bit concerned about rain expected for the Houston game, but they are a scoring machine and fall into a lot of very nice trends, so I'm sticking with them.  I'll probably add OK St. but, with 76% of the action on TX Tech, I'm holding off for a little longer, hoping for the line to move to +3 on bookmaker (or at least reduced juice to buy it to +3).

ur

Anyone know the over/under for cramps by razorback defensive players this weekend? Should be entertaining watching theses coaches go at it. It's obvious there is no love lost between these two coaching staffs.

DadVader1

Yes, it does have the look and feel of a pissing contest as dogs try to mark their territory, especially since the two groups include Arkansas ex-pats at Aub and a brash new coach who "ain't from around here."

widespreadsooie

Tonight I'm going with 2.5u on HOU -18.5 and 2u on Rice +3.5. Vader, remember rain can go both ways. Makes it much more difficult for defenses to move with traction, especially in man. Really pissed about that under last night. Tough luck on Memphis' last TD.

DadVader1

Good luck tonight!  I agree on the rain/defense thing.  When trying to predict an outcome, I just prefer fewer variables.  I figure there are a lot of folks out there who are MUCH better than I am at gauging the impact of things like bad weather or injuries.  Still, I like the Houston play.  It fell into a couple of different but overlapping trends that have gone 22-0 and 21-0 on the season.  I still don't have a high degree of confidence in those trends yet, but it fell into enough other nice trends for me to take a shot at it.

 

widespreadsooie

Quote from: DadVader1 on October 31, 2013, 12:34:17 pm
Good luck tonight!  I agree on the rain/defense thing.  When trying to predict an outcome, I just prefer fewer variables.  I figure there are a lot of folks out there who are MUCH better than I am at gauging the impact of things like bad weather or injuries.  Still, I like the Houston play.  It fell into a couple of different but overlapping trends that have gone 22-0 and 21-0 on the season.  I still don't have a high degree of confidence in those trends yet, but it fell into enough other nice trends for me to take a shot at it.

I just think the line is about 6-10 points off. Houston puts up points like nobody's business and USF is absolutely horrible all around. I see something like 38-14.

DadVader1

I hope & think you're right.  My favorite systems have it ranging from a 21 to 28 point spread.

widespreadsooie

Quote from: DadVader1 on October 31, 2013, 01:15:03 pm
I hope & think you're right.  My favorite systems have it ranging from a 21 to 28 point spread.

Up to 20!

Hawgndaaz

I got Houston at 19 and Rice at +3, both 1.5 units. tailing you gents.

also going Bengals -2 at 4 units, per our friend from  ::hornsdown::

DadVader1

Well crap!  70% of the action is on TX Tech, but reverse line movement is giving OK St. fewer points.  It's down to +2 OK St. now.  If it makes it back to +2.5, I'm buying the hook and taking it at +3.

widespreadsooie

Quote from: DadVader1 on October 31, 2013, 04:34:16 pm
Well crap!  70% of the action is on TX Tech, but reverse line movement is giving OK St. fewer points.  It's down to +2 OK St. now.  If it makes it back to +2.5, I'm buying the hook and taking it at +3.

Okie St. looks like the play. Love reverse line movement. It can sometimes give you a tip on the total too. That's what I was playing my under on for the most part last night but the RLM didn't hold true.

Jeff "hogfanintx" Anderson

Bengals -2 / 5 units. 

Worst part is I hope they lose outright !
Let's make some waves.

WILL CLINTON

October 31, 2013, 07:47:34 pm #5470 Last Edit: October 31, 2013, 08:51:36 pm by WILL CLINTON
Trick or treating made me miss Rice, but I got down on Arizona at -11 and over 71. Also 2half Houston -8.5.  Also 2half Rice -1.5 All 1*
There is no sacred ground for the conquered.

WILL CLINTON

Stat of the night, USF had scored 6 TD's all year prior to this game. Scored 3 in this game.

I really haven't felt great about any of this week, at least not like last week. Hope I'm not setting myself up for a bad weekend.

I do feel good about Az St though, the west coast guy on therx posted his plays tonight and it was his first one. He also likes UCLA -28 v Colorado, but I'm not sure yet on that one.
There is no sacred ground for the conquered.

widespreadsooie

79 for Rice has to be the worst O lineman in the nation. I'll never bet Rice again. This is the hardest to watch offense. I'm literally frustrated out of my mind. I'll normally lose a bet, move on, that's that. Not with this Rice game. I hate this team. Eight chances to punch it in from less than five yards and a no go!? Jesus!

widespreadsooie

After tonight and last night, I'll go on and finalize Saturday's card with what's already locked in. I'm experiencing a slump and wish to add no more games. With that being said, fade away..

GT -10.5... 3u
ECU -23.5... 2.5u
Tulane +3...2u
Tulsa -3.5...2u
WVU/TCU u45.5...2u

This week so far I'm 0-3, -7.5u less juice. I've put myself in a little red on the year after this week and will be very cautious or sitting out awhile if I turn a losing card Saturday. Bank roll management is first and foremost. Sucks to have to realize that.

 

widespreadsooie

Forgot to add my horrible GOY play on the card:

NC St. pk...4u

Ha dammit.

WILL CLINTON

There is no sacred ground for the conquered.

Bellhog63

Call  it like you see it but respect others opinions!

Jeff "hogfanintx" Anderson

Let's make some waves.

Hawgndaaz


WILL CLINTON

Thanks to Az St for a 2-0 late night game.

Starting the weekend dead even at 2-2, but my little parlays made me a little change last night.

There is no sacred ground for the conquered.

Hawgndaaz


DadVader1

Yes, I'm glad AZ St. kept me alive, albeit starting the weekend at 1-2.  At the risk of getting kicked, here's what I've added:

I decided that I liked Mid TN St. at -3 more than I liked OK St at +1.5, so instead of sticking with OSU, I switched to MTSU for 5 units.

I combined my 4 remaining plays in small 2-team parlays for a total of 4.5 units:
Aub -7
Minn +8
MO -9.5
MTSU -3

WILL CLINTON

Really liking Oregon St tonight also. The line has moved from -4.5 down to -3.5 on 5dimes. I may make this my biggest play of the weekend, but a little more research to do.
There is no sacred ground for the conquered.

Jeff "hogfanintx" Anderson

Quote from: Hawgndaaz on November 01, 2013, 09:18:22 am
c'mon, jeff, how could you not see that safety in overtime coming?


Lol I know right!
Let's make some waves.

McHogLovin


DadVader1

Quote from: widespreadsooie on October 31, 2013, 09:43:07 pm
GT -10.5... 3u
ECU -23.5... 2.5u
Tulane +3...2u
Tulsa -3.5...2u
WVU/TCU u45.5...2u


I like this card.  I came very close to adding GT, ECU, and Tulane but just didn't want to play 10 games this weekend.   

Jeff "hogfanintx" Anderson

Quote from: McHogLovin on November 01, 2013, 01:05:53 pm
Look at the bright side.  They did lose like you wanted. :)

That is true. Course doesn't help much with the Steelers continuing to lose.
Let's make some waves.

BoynamedWooPigSooie

The following teams have all been $$$$$ this season.  Even betting against them when they've had some really high spreads have been good plays.

Oregon
Baylor
Minnesota
UNLV
Arizona St.
FSU
Alabama
Arizona
Michigan St.
Iowa
Oklahoma
Texas Tech


Have all been a little better than average, but a little neurotic.

USC w/ Orgeron
A&M
Cincy
Okie St.
Auburn
Michigan
Ohio St.
Missouri
Notre Dame
Memphis


The following teams are putting people in the poor house either by consistently not covering or beating the spread when the underdog.

LSU
Georgia
Miami
Va Tech
GT
Ole Miss
S. Carolina
USF
UTEP
W. Kentucky
PITT
Rutgers


Now these have been $$$$$ betting against them.

Idaho
E. Michigan
Kansas
Arkansas
Tennessee
LA Tech
USC w/ Kiffin
Worst Virginia
New Mexico St.
Kent St.
UAB



just a casual observation.
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DadVader1

November 01, 2013, 03:33:11 pm #5488 Last Edit: November 01, 2013, 03:51:52 pm by DadVader1
Thanks WooPig,  Following along that line, here are the top 10 most predictable and bottom 10 least predictable teams as compared to the picks of six of the rating systems with better records ATS.  It looks like there is some overlap.  It also looks like it's been $ betting against E. Mich, Cal, & S. Miss (especially when the rating systems pick against them ... although this is probably not the weekend to test that theory b/c several of the systems are picking in favor of EM, Cal, & S MS this weekend).

1   Florida
2   Eastern Mich.
3   Nebraska
4   California
5   Southern Miss.
6   Ball St.
7   Virginia Tech
8   Marshall
8   Rice
10   Colorado

115   Washington
116   Louisiana Tech
116   Maryland
118   Nevada
119   Bowling Green
120   Indiana
121   Iowa St.
122   Central Mich.
123   Michigan St.
124   Utah

ur

I DVR as many college football shows as possible. I really enjoyed watching this last night. I know you guys will enjoy the pic also. He did the show in a wolverine costume. LOL

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Hawgndaaz


Hawgndaaz

just saw Okla state is down to PICKEM on my board.

DadVader1

Same here.  Wish I would have gone ahead and bought the hook to get it at +3 when it was at +2.5.

Jeff "hogfanintx" Anderson

USC +5.5 / 3 units
Penn St Illinois under 57 / 3 units
Iowa St +17 / 3 units
Georgia -2 / 3 units
Miami +21.5 / 3 units
Miami fl st over 62 / 3 units
Michigan St -4 / dime play
Okie St +1 / dime play



Let's make some waves.

WILL CLINTON

November 01, 2013, 06:48:24 pm #5494 Last Edit: November 01, 2013, 07:28:19 pm by WILL CLINTON
Quote from: Jeff "hogfanintx" Anderson on November 01, 2013, 05:50:03 pm
USC +5.5 / 3 units
Penn St Illinois under 57 / 3 units
Iowa St +17 / 3 units
Georgia -2 / 3 units
Miami +21.5 / 3 units
Miami fl st over 62 / 3 units
Michigan St -4 / dime play
Okie St +1 / dime play





I see we are on opposite sides of the Or St v USC game,but I may be going to get USC at +7 and try to middle because I got Or St -3.5 earlier today.

Added

Or St -3.5 2*
USC +7 1*
USC v Or St under 52.5
There is no sacred ground for the conquered.

McKdaddy

Quote from: Jeff "hogfanintx" Anderson on November 01, 2013, 05:50:03 pm
USC +5.5 / 3 units
Penn St Illinois under 57 / 3 units
Iowa St +17 / 3 units
Georgia -2 / 3 units
Miami +21.5 / 3 units
Miami fl st over 62 / 3 units
Michigan St -4 / dime play
Okie St +1 / dime play





This, and added the dreaded teaser....

Michigan  +10
Aub  -2
3 units
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Oliver

Quote from: Hawgndaaz on November 01, 2013, 04:46:33 pm
just saw Okla state is down to PICKEM on my board.

I like Tech in this game.  Okie state can't throw the ball.

And if Tech didn't have 1,000 turnovers last week, they would have won in Norman

BoynamedWooPigSooie

Can't believe I left off S. Miss, that's an automatic pick against, regardless of spread lol.


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Jeff "hogfanintx" Anderson

Quote from: DadVader1 on October 30, 2013, 03:42:16 pm
I got in enough data to finish my initial screening.  Here are my leans:

Aub -7.5
Houston -18
Minn. +10
Mizz -9.5
Rice +4.5
OK St. +3
AZ St. -11.5

I don't recall ever having 3 good weekends in a row, and this will be weekend number 3.  I'm hoping to break new ground here, but be forewarned that I'm due for a "correction." 

I was rereading some of this page and just caught this.  I like how you put that Due for a correction.  That's so true and it always happens just a matter of when it happens.

I remember about 6 or 7 years back I went like 17-0 first week of college. 9-0 NFL week 1.

Week 2 college like 14-2

Week 2 nfl 7-1

Week 3 college. 13-0. And hit a 5 dollar ten teamer in there also that paid like three grand.

Week 3 NFL 8-0

Then Bam, pow, zap,   College 1-16
Pro 2-9

College 3-12

Pro 3-5

Then things started returning to normal. Went from couldn't miss to couldn't hit just like that.  Greatest and worst run of my betting life all in a 5 or so week span.
Let's make some waves.

DadVader1

Yes, more times than I care to admit, I'll have 2 really good weeks, start to think I have a good system figured out, increase the size of my plays in week 3, and give back my gains with a bad week 3.  Rinse & repeat.  Sometimes it's been 2 steps forward, 3 steps back, but after learning the lessons of bankroll management from you and a few of the other veterans, I've done a decent job of weathering those storms and coming out ahead in the long run.