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bigpigpimpin

Still not on the mike A fan club, but that was a good road win. Good job hogs.

hobhog

It was a good win, but not sure how we did it. I cringe every time we have to inbounds the ball late. It's bewildering.

Regardless, if we can win LSU and get to 15-4 we could start feeling confident. This team has some talent.

 

ShadowHawg

Quote from: hobhog on January 17, 2017, 10:40:38 pm
It was a good win, but not sure how we did it. I cringe every time we have to inbounds the ball late. It's bewildering.

Totally agree.

ShadowHawg

Quote from: bigpigpimpin on January 17, 2017, 10:51:47 pm
I have to admit I didn't watch. Didn't even know we had a game tonight. Unfortunately, that's just where I am as a fan. Judging by home attendance, I'm guessing many feel the same way. But when I saw the score roll across it was like oh really? We won a road sec game? That's nice. Always a total surprise. Lol. But yeah, good win.

4-1 in our last 5 SEC road games. Maybe you should spend some time watching after all. We are 11-10 in our last 21 SEC road games.

Come into the present.

azhog10

Quote from: bigpigpimpin on January 17, 2017, 10:35:21 pm
Still not on the mike A fan club, but that was a good road win. Good job hogs.
Haven't been happy with our defense all year. Thought that was the best defense we had played all season. Now if we can cut down on the unforced and silly turnovers we might just turn this thing around.

azhog10

Quote from: bigpigpimpin on January 17, 2017, 10:51:47 pm
I have to admit I didn't watch. Didn't even know we had a game tonight. Unfortunately, that's just where I am as a fan. Judging by home attendance, I'm guessing many feel the same way. But when I saw the score roll across it was like oh really? We won a road sec game? That's nice. Always a total surprise. Lol. But yeah, good win.
Winning on the road isn't something we struggle with. Beating good teams is however.

Hog_Swanson

Quote from: azhog10 on January 17, 2017, 10:56:34 pm
Haven't been happy with our defense all year. Thought that was the best defense we had played all season. Now if we can cut down on the unforced and silly turnovers we might just turn this thing around.
We are 14 and 4.  What are you wanting to turn around?
Quote from: JIMMY BOARFFETT on February 08, 2018, 08:00:41 pm

I have gonads, and as soon as my wife gets back I'll prove it.  I keep 'em in her purse. >:(

Quote from: PorkSoda on Today at 04:03:25 pm
Okay, you are right, I should have done that first instead of going off of what other people said was said.
So basically all my complaining was for nothing and I'm a dumbass.  I should have just watch the presser BEFORE commenting.

BrooklynRoss

Quote from: bigpigpimpin on January 17, 2017, 10:51:47 pm
I have to admit I didn't watch. Didn't even know we had a game tonight. Unfortunately, that's just where I am as a fan. Judging by home attendance, I'm guessing many feel the same way. But when I saw the score roll across it was like oh really? We won a road sec game? That's nice. Always a total surprise. Lol. But yeah, good win.

Weird. We play almost every Tuesday and Saturday during conference with a few exceptions. Also, it's pretty easy to set alerts for when the Razorbacks play.
I support the Razorbacks in the city that never sleeps.

ErieHog

There's a common thread in Anderson critics.  They haven't watched much Hog basketball (or college basketball as a whole), or turn off the TV at the first sign of adversity.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

Atlhogfan1

Quote from: ErieHog on January 20, 2017, 06:23:16 pm
There's a common thread in Anderson critics.  They haven't watched much Hog basketball (or college basketball as a whole), or turn off the TV at the first sign of adversity.

This is the type of arrogant bull you read in the baseball forum.  Weak job of trying to dismiss. 
Quote from: MaconBacon on March 22, 2018, 10:30:04 amWe had a good run in the 90's and one NC and now the whole state still laments that we are a top seed program and have kids standing in line to come to good ole Arkansas.  We're just a flash in the pan boys. 

ErieHog

Quote from: Atlhogfan1 on January 20, 2017, 06:29:46 pm
This is the type of arrogant bull you read in the baseball forum.  Weak job of trying to dismiss. 


Its true.   Its why we have so many people who think this team is in horrible shape, when its still in pretty good shape.  The disconnect between our own 'fan base' perception of the state of the program, and the outside world is marked.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

Atlhogfan1

Quote from: ErieHog on January 20, 2017, 06:30:58 pm

Its true.   Its why we have so many people who think this team is in horrible shape, when its still in pretty good shape.  The disconnect between our own 'fan base' perception of the state of the program, and the outside world is marked.

The outside world has forgotten us. We are irrelevant currently. 

No they don't think the team is in horrible shape.  Of course it is pretty good shape due largely to schedule which won't expose it. 
Quote from: MaconBacon on March 22, 2018, 10:30:04 amWe had a good run in the 90's and one NC and now the whole state still laments that we are a top seed program and have kids standing in line to come to good ole Arkansas.  We're just a flash in the pan boys. 

20gauge

3-3 in league play. With wins over teams that are a combined 3-14 in league play. Only one of those teams has a winning record and one is one of the worst teams in the country and barely winning two of those. Our best win is Houston who just lost to a bad Memphis team. Couple that with being handled in our 4 losses, 2 at home means we are NIT bound.

RPI is only one deciding factor but with no quality wins, don't give me all those mid majors that might make the tournament. If we just win the games we are supposed to the rest of the way we will still be a bubble team at best. We must beat at least FL or SC to get in.

Over half the games we have left can go either way, starting with LSU. A game we should win fairly easily at home would think. However I think that give us all we can handle.

 

Swinesong1

Quote from: 20gauge on January 20, 2017, 07:50:11 pm
3-3 in league play. With wins over teams that are a combined 3-14 in league play. Only one of those teams has a winning record and one is one of the worst teams in the country and barely winning two of those. Our best win is Houston who just lost to a bad Memphis team. Couple that with being handled in our 4 losses, 2 at home means we are NIT bound.

RPI is only one deciding factor but with no quality wins, don't give me all those mid majors that might make the tournament. If we just win the games we are supposed to the rest of the way we will still be a bubble team at best. We must beat at least FL or SC to get in.

Over half the games we have left can go either way, starting with LSU. A game we should win fairly easily at home would think. However I think that give us all we can handle.
Memphis' record is?

Swinesong1

Quote from: 20gauge on January 20, 2017, 07:50:11 pm
3-3 in league play. With wins over teams that are a combined 3-14 in league play. Only one of those teams has a winning record and one is one of the worst teams in the country and barely winning two of those. Our best win is Houston who just lost to a bad Memphis team. Couple that with being handled in our 4 losses, 2 at home means we are NIT bound.

RPI is only one deciding factor but with no quality wins, don't give me all those mid majors that might make the tournament. If we just win the games we are supposed to the rest of the way we will still be a bubble team at best. We must beat at least FL or SC to get in.

Over half the games we have left can go either way, starting with LSU. A game we should win fairly easily at home would think. However I think that give us all we can handle.
Define "handled"

Letsroll1200

Quote from: Atlhogfan1 on January 20, 2017, 06:34:41 pm
The outside world has forgotten us. We are irrelevant currently. 

No they don't think the team is in horrible shape.  Of course it is pretty good shape due largely to schedule which won't expose it.

Most of the outside world have us projected to make the tournament

Atlhogfan1

Quote from: Letsroll1200 on January 20, 2017, 08:01:01 pm
Most of the outside world have us projected to make the tournament

I knew one of the kids would give this reply.  You really don't understand what a relevant program looks like.   
Quote from: MaconBacon on March 22, 2018, 10:30:04 amWe had a good run in the 90's and one NC and now the whole state still laments that we are a top seed program and have kids standing in line to come to good ole Arkansas.  We're just a flash in the pan boys. 

Jonteviosk

Quote from: Atlhogfan1 on January 20, 2017, 06:29:46 pm
This is the type of arrogant bull you read in the baseball forum.  Weak job of trying to dismiss.

No erie is trying to give you uneducated rednecks the benefit of  doubt I'm not kind get your trolling backsides need to slide right on out the door.
You never know in advance what the outcome of any given situation is so either get busy living or get busy dying.

Jonteviosk

Quote from: Atlhogfan1 on January 20, 2017, 08:20:06 pm
I knew one of the kids would give this reply.  You really don't understand what a relevant program looks like.

Obviously neither does your dumbass. Tell you what genius when we make the tournament most of you trolls will disappear right until before next season.
You never know in advance what the outcome of any given situation is so either get busy living or get busy dying.

Atlhogfan1

Quote from: Jonteviosk on January 20, 2017, 08:33:21 pm
Obviously neither does your dumbass. Tell you what genius when we make the tournament most of you trolls will disappear right until before next season.

1 NCAAT appearance as the third or fourth team from the SEC doesn't get the program back into the national conversation.  I don't disappear.  Others do. Some of the biggest supporters.  One in this thread. 
Quote from: MaconBacon on March 22, 2018, 10:30:04 amWe had a good run in the 90's and one NC and now the whole state still laments that we are a top seed program and have kids standing in line to come to good ole Arkansas.  We're just a flash in the pan boys. 

Jonteviosk

Quote from: Atlhogfan1 on January 20, 2017, 08:37:59 pm
1 NCAAT appearance as the third or fourth team from the SEC doesn't get the program back into the national conversation.  I don't disappear.  Others do. Some of the biggest supporters.  One in this thread.

The goal set for this team was the tournament. National relevance comes eventually as a byproduct of winning.
You never know in advance what the outcome of any given situation is so either get busy living or get busy dying.

Atlhogfan1

Quote from: Jonteviosk on January 20, 2017, 08:41:56 pm
The goal set for this team was the tournament. National relevance comes eventually as a byproduct of winning.

The minimum goal for this team this season was the tournament.  Yes it does.  So you agree with my earlier replies. 
Quote from: MaconBacon on March 22, 2018, 10:30:04 amWe had a good run in the 90's and one NC and now the whole state still laments that we are a top seed program and have kids standing in line to come to good ole Arkansas.  We're just a flash in the pan boys. 

20gauge

Quote from: Swinesong1 on January 20, 2017, 07:59:32 pm
Define "handled"
Losses by 21, 26, 16 and I forget what MSU beat is by. Yeah we were in those games for a half but other than that we never were close to going to win those games.

We can make the tourney but we are going to have to play better than we have. A win is a win. Norhing wrong with being optimistic. However the way we have played doesn't lend one to think we are only lose, say SC and FL the rest of the way. What it does say is that every game is going to be a dog fight that can go either way. Mizzou is probably our only guaranteed win the rest of the way. We have very little wiggle room if we intend to make the tourney

20gauge

January 20, 2017, 09:57:43 pm #23 Last Edit: January 20, 2017, 10:32:29 pm by 20gauge
Quote from: Swinesong1 on January 20, 2017, 07:58:20 pm
Memphis' record is?
Not making the tourney but I can look it up if you want. They have some bad losses. One being OM, Tulsa. Overall 14-5 and their best win is you guessed it Houston

 

BannerMountainMan

Quote from: 20gauge on January 20, 2017, 09:54:55 pm
Losses by 21, 26, 16 and I forget what MSU beat is by. Yeah we were in those games for a half but other than that we never were close to going to win those games.

We can make the tourney but we are going to have to play better than we have. A win is a win. Norhing wrong with being optimistic. However the way we have played doesn't lend one to think we are only lose, say SC and FL the rest of the way. What it does say is that every game is going to be a dog fight that can go either way. Mizzou is probably our only guaranteed win the rest of the way. We have very little wiggle room if we intend to make the tourney
where the heck are you getting your numbers at!! We lost by 14,9,26,6
"Michael Qualls with the dunk at the buzzer, it goes and Arkansas wins, it goes and Arkansas wins"

HogBreath

Quote from: ShadowHawg on January 17, 2017, 10:55:16 pm
4-1 in our last 5 SEC road games. Maybe you should spend some time watching after all. We are 11-10 in our last 21 SEC road games.

Come into the present.
That's pretty danged good, I have to admit.  And who knows what the rest of the schedule will bring, maybe the usual roller coaster, but..this team has a chance to turn some heads.
I said...LSU has often been an overrated team.

That ignoramus Draconian Sanctions said..if we're overrated, why are we ranked higher than you are?

realistichog

Lunes like someone is in the moral victory business. We ONLY lost by 14,9,26,6

azhog10

Quote from: Hog_Swanson on January 20, 2017, 04:49:24 pm
We are 14 and 4.  What are you wanting to turn around?
Winning against NCAAT bound teams.

RealHog

Quote from: hobhog on January 17, 2017, 10:40:38 pm
It was a good win, but not sure how we did it. I cringe every time we have to inbounds the ball late. It's bewildering.

Regardless, if we can win LSU and get to 15-4 we could start feeling confident. This team has some talent.

Yesssss. This is something I didn't know was that hard until some teams do it. There is some strategy that goes into a clean inbound pass (or late game score) against tight pressure, and we aren't good at them right now.

Jonteviosk

Quote from: 20gauge on January 20, 2017, 09:54:55 pm
Losses by 21, 26, 16 and I forget what MSU beat is by. Yeah we were in those games for a half but other than that we never were close to going to win those games.

We can make the tourney but we are going to have to play better than we have. A win is a win. Norhing wrong with being optimistic. However the way we have played doesn't lend one to think we are only lose, say SC and FL the rest of the way. What it does say is that every game is going to be a dog fight that can go either way. Mizzou is probably our only guaranteed win the rest of the way. We have very little wiggle room if we intend to make the tourney


Come everyone were gonna play pin the tail on the jackass. Play better were about to be 15-4 genius. Listen to this idiot youd think we were in LSU's boat 9-8 lol. Shear stupidity.
You never know in advance what the outcome of any given situation is so either get busy living or get busy dying.

Jonteviosk

Quote from: realistichog on January 21, 2017, 12:07:55 am
Lunes like someone is in the moral victory business. We ONLY lost by 14,9,26,6

Another moron who fails to register 14 soon to be 15 wins vs those 4 losses. I hope this stupidity isn't contagious.
You never know in advance what the outcome of any given situation is so either get busy living or get busy dying.

Jonteviosk

Quote from: RealHog on January 21, 2017, 12:20:59 am
Yesssss. This is something I didn't know was that hard until some teams do it. There is some strategy that goes into a clean inbound pass (or late game score) against tight pressure, and we aren't good at them right now.

14-4 says otherwise
You never know in advance what the outcome of any given situation is so either get busy living or get busy dying.

LZH

Quote from: ErieHog on January 20, 2017, 06:23:16 pm
There's a common thread in Anderson critics.  They haven't watched much Hog basketball (or college basketball as a whole), or turn off the TV at the first sign of adversity.

Erie, to say I've lost interest may not even be a strong enough term. I don't even think about Razorback basketball anymore. Haven't watched a game since probably the year we beat Kentucky with that put-back dunk. Same with MA, can't say I am a harsh critic because it is a non-issue these days. I couldn't name one player on the team right now.

And this is from a guy who once infuriated my daddy to the point that he finally had cable ran to our office because I refused to work on days that SEC/NCAA Tourney games were on TV.

But I read somewhere the other day that we have the #1 recruiting class for next year or the year after next, I don't remember. And apparently we are 15-4 and are playing much better. I so want our program to return to competing with the best teams in college basketball......wanting to be interested again.

BannerMountainMan

Quote from: realistichog on January 21, 2017, 12:07:55 am
Lunes like someone is in the moral victory business. We ONLY lost by 14,9,26,6
im sorry I just don't like people making up scores to make us sound worse farther up their in the thread
"Michael Qualls with the dunk at the buzzer, it goes and Arkansas wins, it goes and Arkansas wins"

HogBreath

Quote from: Jonteviosk on January 21, 2017, 02:25:40 am

Come everyone were gonna play pin the tail on the jackass. Play better were about to be 15-4 genius. Listen to this idiot youd think we were in LSU's boat 9-8 lol. Shear stupidity.
He don't know much about scissors????
I said...LSU has often been an overrated team.

That ignoramus Draconian Sanctions said..if we're overrated, why are we ranked higher than you are?

1highhog

Quote from: Hog_Swanson on January 20, 2017, 04:49:24 pm
We are 14 and 4.  What are you wanting to turn around?

Have any of those wins been to good teams?

BannerMountainMan

Quote from: 1highhog on January 21, 2017, 08:09:26 am
Have any of those wins been to good teams?
how many losses have been to mediocre teams?
"Michael Qualls with the dunk at the buzzer, it goes and Arkansas wins, it goes and Arkansas wins"

1highhog

Quote from: ErieHog on January 20, 2017, 06:30:58 pm

Its true.   Its why we have so many people who think this team is in horrible shape, when its still in pretty good shape.  The disconnect between our own 'fan base' perception of the state of the program, and the outside world is marked.

No, I have no problem with this team, I just think it needs a better Coach.  As I'm getting very tired of saying, Mike is a guy I've liked before we hired him, the exact reason I didn't want him hired, because I knew he wasn't a good Coach and wouldn't work out here and after 6 long years, more years than any used to be basketball powerhouse would give a Coach, we still have him as our dang Coach.

We have a football Coach that people want to fire after year 4, but a basketball Coach that hasn't done squat in 6 years and fans want to keep him,,,unreal!  ::)

Dominicanhog

Quote from: 1highhog on January 21, 2017, 08:16:58 am

We have a football Coach that people want to fire after year 4, but a basketball Coach that hasn't done squat in 6 years and fans want to keep him,,,unreal!  ::)

They wanted to fire Mike after years 1,2,3,4,5 etc... they'll want to fire CBB after years 4,5, etc.. and you fit right in with the rest of them..

amazing how often we see a moron calling another moron a moron... he's not done with year 6 btw.. but you've already chalked it up to not squat.. an agenda maybe?

rusvegashog

January 21, 2017, 09:49:14 am #39 Last Edit: January 21, 2017, 10:17:58 am by rusvegashog
In those four games we got beat by 38, Tuesday, 196 and CNN. See I can do it to. Rable, rable, rable. Grrrr I'm mad and I have an opinion. It might not be based in logic or reality, but I have a "SMART" phone. So........ I watched the game at a public watering hole and sat and listened to one after the other behind me talk about how bad we sucked. Mind you that none of them actually watched the game just caught the score and put out an opinion as fact to whoever would listen.  Yeah "NEWS" channels, message boards, comment sections and once again ""SMART" phones are a goood thing. SMH

20gauge

Quote from: Jonteviosk on January 21, 2017, 02:27:04 am
Another moron who fails to register 14 soon to be 15 wins vs those 4 losses. I hope this stupidity isn't contagious.
I was going off memory and we were at least down by that much in those games. But yet here's another moron who believes beating the academy for the deaf is getting us in the tourney.

Are we in the same boat with LSU. No we have more wins. But we have won our close games and they haven't. All I'm saying is it isn't going to be an easy win. I'd be surprised if we win by double digits

20gauge

Quote from: Jonteviosk on January 21, 2017, 02:25:40 am

Come everyone were gonna play pin the tail on the jackass. Play better were about to be 15-4 genius. Listen to this idiot youd think we were in LSU's boat 9-8 lol. Shear stupidity.
Stupidity is ignoring the truth of what this team is and that's 7th place in one of the worst leagues in the country. Having lost to the only good teams in the league so far and barely beating the ones that are the worst. The teams we beat in league have I combined 3 freaking wins in league and only one has a winning record. So tell me again how proud you are of our soon to be 15 wins. Name that signature win that's gonna get us recognized and in the tourney. I'm mean TN is 9-9, only beat them by 4, Mizzou has what 5 wins but what a great win we got so much better according to coach then A&M at 9-8 now by 2. Wins and they matter but they show how close we are to the bottom than the top right now.

No we ain't in LSU's boat but we are towing it just behind us. Ours is the USS NIT right now and that's not stupid. That's the darn truth.

We can't afford one slip up. We have to win every game we are favored to win and we need to beat either SC or FL and that the way it needs to be approached by this team.

20gauge

Quote from: realistichog on January 21, 2017, 12:07:55 am
Lunes like someone is in the moral victory business. We ONLY lost by 14,9,26,6
No I just remembered how far we were behind in those games at one point. The point is we were never really in those games except for a half of them. But ill admit I didn't get to watch the Florida game and MSU didn't seem that close because of how they were torching us from 3. During those games I never felt we had a chance to win them

Dominicanhog

Quote from: 20gauge on January 21, 2017, 10:33:39 am




We can't afford one slip up. We have to win every game we are favored to win and we need to beat either SC or FL and that the way it needs to be approached by this team.

May be the way we need to approach it but those are not facts.. we could lose to both, and a couple more, and still be in.. need to keep winning, but every loss is not as dire as some want to make it...

PonderinHog

Actually, we don't need to worry about SC or FL until we play them.  This team can't look past anybody.  As far as SOS, RPI and NCAAT aspirations go, this year it's a matter of quantity over quality. 

Dominicanhog

Quote from: PonderinHog on January 21, 2017, 10:43:37 am
Actually, we don't need to worry about SC or FL until we play them.  This team can't look past anybody.  As far as SOS, RPI and NCAAT aspirations go, this year it's a matter of quantity over quality.

Yep.. just get in.. and build from there.. 

20gauge

Agree just get in. Quality will count for someone though it always does. While we can afford losses it can't be bad ones. A loss to Mizzou could be damaging. It would be nice to steal one at SC and or FL. We can't finish 7th in the league though and get in.

We should beat LSU today but I'm not counting anything until its done. Football season taught me that lol

HoopS

No question we need to improve to the point of beating the better teams. It should have been at least a glimpse of excitement seeing how we played with Kentucky for a good portion of the game. Need to play at that level a full 40. It's a process. There are good things to see if you choose to try.

FineAsSwine

Quote from: LZH on January 21, 2017, 05:49:12 am
Erie, to say I've lost interest may not even be a strong enough term. I don't even think about Razorback basketball anymore. Haven't watched a game since probably the year we beat Kentucky with that put-back dunk. Same with MA, can't say I am a harsh critic because it is a non-issue these days. I couldn't name one player on the team right now.

And this is from a guy who once infuriated my daddy to the point that he finally had cable ran to our office because I refused to work on days that SEC/NCAA Tourney games were on TV.

But I read somewhere the other day that we have the #1 recruiting class for next year or the year after next, I don't remember. And apparently we are 15-4 and are playing much better. I so want our program to return to competing with the best teams in college basketball......wanting to be interested again.

Lots of commentary from a supposedly uninterested party.  ???

Dominicanhog

Quote from: FineAsSwine on January 21, 2017, 11:48:18 am
Lots of commentary from a supposedly uninterested party.  ???

yeah and he's watching UF/Vandy but doesn't pay attention to the Hogs.. haha..