Jim Harris gives a look inside at the Rafe Peavey decision

[SportsLife]

 The kid showed class with his departure.

http://www.sportinglifearkansas.com/jim-harris-rafe-peavey-exits-razorback-stage-class/

[theFlyingHog]

Sounds like Hyatt will be the real deal. Best of luck to Peavey. Hope he kicks butt over at SMU

[Mike_e]

Congrats to Jim on the new gig.

Also congrats to Rafe.  Dallas isn't such a bad place and having helped the mustangs along will get you a lot of support in becoming successful there.

All the best to the young man.

[Hawghiggs]

   It sounds like Storey and Townes might want to start looking also.

[JaketheSnake]

   It sounds like Storey and Townes might want to start looking also.

Keep it classy

[Boss Hog in the Arkansas]

   It sounds like Storey and Townes might want to start looking also.

Also sounds like Austin better enjoy that starting spot to the fullest because he may not have it past this year

[Boss Hog in the Arkansas]

Sounds like Hyatt will be the real deal. Best of luck to Peavey. Hope he kicks butt over at SMU

Hyatt?

[ricepig]

   It sounds like Storey and Townes might want to start looking also.

Who is this Townes you speak of?"

[Dominicanhog]

Congrats to Jim on the new gig.

Also congrats to Rafe.  Dallas isn't such a bad place and having helped the mustangs along will get you a lot of support in becoming successful there.

All the best to the young man.

oh and best of all.... they have a bunch of nice fillies at SMOO... Rafe should be in high cotton as new BMOC...

[SooiecidetillNuttgone]

Who is this Townes you speak of?"

I think Mallet.

[DeltaBoy]

Best of luck to Rafe, He paid his dues and just could not break through into the line up. Best of Luck in Dallas.

[hog.goblin]

   It sounds like Storey and Townes might want to start looking also.

Darian isn't worried.  He's got a gig in the D-League.

[hogcard1964]

Good luck

...but it sounds like Kelley will be pushing Allen.

[SooiecidetillNuttgone]

Darian isn't worried.  He's got a gig in the D-League.

LOL.
That's who I thought of immediately as well.

[Jackrabbit Hog]

Good luck

...but it sounds like Kelley will be pushing Allen.

The competition will only make them better.  That's a good thing.

[OutlawHawg]

Terrible article.

The whole premise is that Peavey lacks awareness which is a trait almost impossible to identify in high school recruits. Then he goes on to say that based on a couple games by a high school senior (Hyatt) the current QB's should be looking at transferring.

Also spent a whole paragraph with a subtle brag about his connections on the hill.

[factchecker]

Also spent a whole paragraph with a subtle brag about his connections on the hill.

Does Jim go to all the fall camp practices.  I'm probably wrong but I don't ever remember seeing him at the post practice interviews.  This was the guy that didn't even know Randy Ramsey was back on the team.

[hogsanity]

Terrible article.

The whole premise is that Peavey lacks awareness which is a trait almost impossible to identify in high school recruits. Then he goes on to say that based on a couple games by a high school senior (Hyatt) the current QB's should be looking at transferring.

Also spent a whole paragraph with a subtle brag about his connections on the hill.

That's right, you don't like the message so hate the messenger.

[Grizzlyfan]

That's right, you don't like the message so hate the messenger.

The premise that college qb's should be worried about a high school senior is nonsense.  It's the thing that gives us 6 pages of speculation of which freshman is going to take the job of the junior.  College football QB speculation is almost completely nonsense.

[factchecker]

That's right, you don't like the message so hate the messenger.

Why can fans second guess coaches but not second guess media members?

Too many people trust the filter that is sports media to provide them with accurate information.  I'd rather listen to actual press conferences and combine that will gameday performance/stats to form an opinion than have someone tell me "like it is".

The premise that college qb's should be worried about a high school senior is nonsense.  It's the thing that gives us 6 pages of speculation of which freshman is going to take the job of the junior.  College football QB speculation is almost completely nonsense.

Especially seeing that the high school senior hasn't even signed.  A lot can happen between now and signing day.

[Biggus Piggus]

Why can fans second guess coaches but not second guess media members?

Too many people trust the filter that is sports media to provide them with accurate information.  I'd rather listen to actual press conferences and combine that will gameday performance/stats to form an opinion than have someone tell me "like it is".

We need both. Press conferences, in truth, should yield little useful information. If they are done right. Coaches should have no interest in helping opponents scout them.

Fans want to know more than what coaches want opponents to know/not know. At least most of us do. If you want to rely solely on what coaches say, you are going to be wrong most of the time.

[factchecker]

We need both. Press conferences, in truth, should yield little useful information. If they are done right. Coaches should have no interest in helping opponents scout them.

Fans want to know more than what coaches want opponents to know/not know. At least most of us do. If you want to rely solely on what coaches say, you are going to be wrong most of the time.

I agree with that point too.  It's tough,though, in today's environment of click bait sensationalism to trust anyone in media.  I've seen media take snippets from a press conference and tweet it to frame it completely out of context.  My suggestion is to read the blogs and articles but do some factchecking and listen to the actual source as well.

[Jim Harris]

Does Jim go to all the fall camp practices.  I'm probably wrong but I don't ever remember seeing him at the post practice interviews.  This was the guy that didn't even know Randy Ramsey was back on the team.

No, this was a guy who trusted Bret Bielema when HE SAID Randy Ramsey would not be rejoining the team. Please get your facts right at least on that. Did Bielema do a 180 on that a month later? Yes, and I was not aware of that at that moment. Fortunately, many on Hogville are always aware to set the unaware right.

[bphi11ips]

I agree with that point too.  It's tough,though, in today's environment of click bait sensationalism to trust anyone in media.  I've seen media take snippets from a press conference and tweet it to frame it completely out of context.  My suggestion is to read the blogs and articles but do some factchecking and listen to the actual source as well.

Never believe anything you read.  Or hear.  Make up your own mind based upon your own experience.  U.S. media is unique.  It is a blessing, but at times it can be a curse, especially in the digital age.  Ubiquity does not create journalists.  Journalists are professionals.  Amateur blogs are marketing tools at worst and hobbies at best. 

Jim Harris is a veteran member of Arkansas media.  He is exactly right about Rafe Peavey.  Peavey realized he was the odd man out in terms of Arkansas' s offense and his skills and size.  As much as he wanted to play for the Hogs, he wants to play more.  He stuck it out and made a difficult decision at the latest possible moment. 

How can anyone be critical of that?

[factchecker]

No, this was a guy who trusted Bret Bielema when HE SAID Randy Ramsey would not be rejoining the team. Get your facts right, fartchecker.

But then soon after Bielema said he rejoined the team as a walk-on.  He even said it in a press conference and you were still adamant that Ramsey wasn't part of the team.  Let me see if I can dig up the thread... here we go:

http://www.hogville.net/yabbse/index.php?topic=608637.msg10156340#msg10156340

[Vantage 8 dude]

   It sounds like Storey and Townes might want to start looking also.

Might want to wait a little before making such an assessment. One never knows what might happen with AA and others. Potential injuries and other such unexpected situations mean a player never knows. Besides, at any good program you're going to have quality competition at pretty much every position.

[razorsharptusk]

According to the article, it seems that Peavey was really our most "mobile" QB on the roster.  He has transferred so that leaves us with QB's that have tall stature and good arms, but are probably not considered the mobile type.  How do you guys feel about not having that mobility option in a QB when it seems to be a proven point that mobile QB's really help to keep a defense honest and such. 

I think back to our Mallet days and while he had a great arm, there were several times I wish he could have just sprinted for a first down or ran to escape a sack or pressure.  Do you guys think this element will be lost among our QB's that we have left on the roster?  Do we need this element in our QB's in order to have success with this offense or for that matter in the season?

[Pork Twain]

According to the article, it seems that Peavey was really our most "mobile" QB on the roster.  He has transferred so that leaves us with QB's that have tall stature and good arms, but are probably not considered the mobile type.  How do you guys feel about not having that mobility option in a QB when it seems to be a proven point that mobile QB's really help to keep a defense honest and such. 

I think back to our Mallet days and while he had a great arm, there were several times I wish he could have just sprinted for a first down or ran to escape a sack or pressure.  Do you guys think this element will be lost among our QB's that we have left on the roster?  Do we need this element in our QB's in order to have success with this offense or for that matter in the season?

I guess it depends on what you consider mobile and what offense you run. 

[Hawgar The Horrible]

According to the article, it seems that Peavey was really our most "mobile" QB on the roster.  He has transferred so that leaves us with QB's that have tall stature and good arms, but are probably not considered the mobile type.  How do you guys feel about not having that mobility option in a QB when it seems to be a proven point that mobile QB's really help to keep a defense honest and such. 

I think back to our Mallet days and while he had a great arm, there were several times I wish he could have just sprinted for a first down or ran to escape a sack or pressure.  Do you guys think this element will be lost among our QB's that we have left on the roster?  Do we need this element in our QB's in order to have success with this offense or for that matter in the season?

Kelley ran for 286 yds and 8 TD's as a Pro Style QB his senior season at Teurlings. He's got some wheels.

[hogcam]

Also sounds like Austin better enjoy that starting spot to the fullest because he may not have it past this year

Not even close to being true. Austin Allen is the best QB on campus by a large margin.

[SooiecidetillNuttgone]

It is in someone's signature on here

It was in mine until buldozer somehow topped it.
 

To be fair though:

I know this scenario all too well.

Ramsey was off according to BB.
I repeated that to wupigsuey to answer his question.

Then Ramsey was back on according to BB again, and wupigsuey got his panties in a wad that I was just making it up as I went along.

[PonderinHog]

I guess it depends on what you consider mobile and what offense you run.

If we need a dual threat QB to run this offense, we're basically screwed.   IMO 

Austin may need to buy some time with his feet this year, just like every year, and I think he's capable of doing that.  Maybe not as quick as BA, but tougher.

[Atlhogfan1]

According to the article, it seems that Peavey was really our most "mobile" QB on the roster.  He has transferred so that leaves us with QB's that have tall stature and good arms, but are probably not considered the mobile type.  How do you guys feel about not having that mobility option in a QB when it seems to be a proven point that mobile QB's really help to keep a defense honest and such. 

I think back to our Mallet days and while he had a great arm, there were several times I wish he could have just sprinted for a first down or ran to escape a sack or pressure.  Do you guys think this element will be lost among our QB's that we have left on the roster?  Do we need this element in our QB's in order to have success with this offense or for that matter in the season?

I guess it depends on what you consider mobile and what offense you run. 

Mallett actually had good pocket presence and was mobile in it.  Like Twain says, you have to define what you are wanting in mobility.  A true run/pass threat to the point his running ability makes up for things like inferior arm strength or accuracy.  One where the defense must account for the qb's running ability.  Or mobile enough to get a first down when it is there, extend plays and get out of trouble - which when healthy BA showed he could do last season and I believe AA will show as well.  I don't know that our qb's are immobile.  They just aren't what would be considered DT. 

[ricepig]

If we need a dual threat QB to run this offense, we're basically screwed.   IMO 

Austin may need to buy some time with his feet this year, just like every year, and I think he's capable of doing that.  Maybe not as quick as BA, but tougher.

They both ran some in high school, they aren't statues. I seem to remember BA avoiding the rush more his SR year, than Austin the next, but I only saw them in person when we played them those two seasons

[Pork Twain]

Mallett actually had good pocket presence and was mobile in it.  Like Twain says, you have to define what you are wanting in mobility.  A true run/pass threat to the point his running ability makes up for things like inferior arm strength or accuracy.  One where the defense must account for the qb's running ability.  Or mobile enough to get a first down when it is there, extend plays and get out of trouble - which when healthy BA showed he could do last season and I believe AA will show as well.  I don't know that our qb's are immobile.  They just aren't what would be considered DT. 

Agreed...  We do not need a dual-threat qb, or Rafe would be the starter.  We need a qb that can read defenses, make all the throws, and be mobile in the pocket to buy time.  I am not sure where all this "dual-threat" nonsense comes from.  There are a lot fewer of those guys with rings than there are guys like I described.

[hogsanity]

According to the article, it seems that Peavey was really our most "mobile" QB on the roster.  He has transferred so that leaves us with QB's that have tall stature and good arms, but are probably not considered the mobile type.  How do you guys feel about not having that mobility option in a QB when it seems to be a proven point that mobile QB's really help to keep a defense honest and such. 

I think back to our Mallet days and while he had a great arm, there were several times I wish he could have just sprinted for a first down or ran to escape a sack or pressure.  Do you guys think this element will be lost among our QB's that we have left on the roster?  Do we need this element in our QB's in order to have success with this offense or for that matter in the season?

Mobile as in avoid a rusher and buy a little time to either find an open receiver or throw it away? Or mobile as in take off running as soon as his 1st option is not open? Or as in run around like he's on the playground relying on his athleticism to get out of bad situations? Mobile as in running the option? Some other definition?

If this offense NEEDS a guy to do anything other than the 1st thing I mentioned, then it won't even be this offense because this offense does not even need anything from the QB as far as mobility.

What really excited some people about RP was they heard he was a "running qb" and had visions of us running some kid of spread or option with the qb running all over the place or running 70 yards just to get back to the LOS when a pass play breaks down.

[Pork Twain]

No, this was a guy who trusted Bret Bielema when HE SAID Randy Ramsey would not be rejoining the team. Get your facts right, fartchecker.

Except you were still saying it after it was announced he was coming back as a walk-on.

[PonderinHog]

I thought it was an interesting article.

[PonderinHog]

Are we not all fart checkers?

All I know is that they stink, for the hearing impaired.

[SooiecidetillNuttgone]

Mobile as in avoid a rusher and buy a little time to either find an open receiver or throw it away? Or mobile as in take off running as soon as his 1st option is not open? Or as in run around like he's on the playground relying on his athleticism to get out of bad situations? Mobile as in running the option? Some other definition?

If this offense NEEDS a guy to do anything other than the 1st thing I mentioned, then it won't even be this offense because this offense does not even need anything from the QB as far as mobility.

What really excited some people about RP was they heard he was a "running qb" and had visions of us running some kid of spread or option with the qb running all over the place or running 70 yards just to get back to the LOS when a pass play breaks down.

This.
I'm so tired of the mobile QB crowd.
Finding one with an accurate arm is nigh-impossible.

If the QB can buy time and give the occasional 5-12 yard scramble ala' BA or Tyler, that's good enough.
Even Mallett, the stone footed, knew how to shift and sidestep to buy time.
He just couldn't buy time like the other two, let alone scramble.

[Biggus Piggus]

I would like to encourage journalists to participate here, not invite them in and assault them.

Except for Bolin, because he's not a real journalist.

[Pork Twain]

If you cannot handle being called out for being wrong, maybe a message board is not a place for you.  I know I get called out all the time and I am ok with that.  It keeps one honest.

This was a pretty good article by Jim.

[Peter Porker]

I would like to encourage journalists to participate here, not invite them in and assault them.

Except for Bolin, because he's not a real journalist.

In other words, we need to like who you like and don't like who you don't like.

Aside from that, I like Jim and have no issue with him. I also do not care for Bolin.

[bphi11ips]

This.
I'm so tired of the mobile QB crowd.
Finding one with an accurate arm is nigh-impossible.

If the QB can buy time and give the occasional 5-12 yard scramble ala' BA or Tyler, that's good enough.
Even Mallett, the stone footed, knew how to shift and sidestep to buy time.
He just couldn't buy time like the other two, let alone scramble.

Phil Rivers is the most difficult sack I've ever seen.  He'll deliver a 50 yard strike just before 3 guys slam him.  And he's 6-5, 230, and 34 with two knee braces.

[SooiecidetillNuttgone]

Phil Rivers is the most difficult sack I've ever seen.  He'll deliver a 50 yard strike just before 3 guys slam him.  And he's 6-5, 230, and 34 with two knee braces.

I can recall some of the best defensive players of that day claim Marino ticked them off more than any other QB.  His quick, accurate release and game awareness would leave them hitting an empty-handed Marino all the time.

[Virgil]

Also sounds like Austin better enjoy that starting spot to the fullest because he may not have it past this year

Barring injury Austin is our QB these next two years. 

[HoggieStyle]

Barring injury Austin is our QB these next two years. 

And NOBODY saw that coming...

[Biggus Piggus]

In other words, we need to like who you like and don't like who you don't like.

Aside from that, I like Jim and have no issue with him. I also do not care for Bolin.

No. Just Bolin.

[lutherheggs]

"...and not just because he had been an average small-school quarterback in the not-so-hotbed-of-preps Missouri."

He was just an average QB at a small school? Then why was he ever given a scholarship?

[Jim Harris]

Phil Rivers is the most difficult sack I've ever seen.  He'll deliver a 50 yard strike just before 3 guys slam him.  And he's 6-5, 230, and 34 with two knee braces.

another QB recruiting saga that Nutt screwed up. Just throwing that out there. Cutler too.