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Quote from: GuvHog on December 16, 2017, 10:57:32 am
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Quote from: Danimal on December 16, 2017, 11:09:02 am
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TebowHater

Quote from: Inhogswetrust on December 16, 2017, 10:27:54 am
If both sides wanted him here bad enough it wouldn't have mattered. I doubt one side had enough interest and it doesn't matter why. Maybe Norvell didn't pass on its. Unless you are his agent or wife then you have no clue any more than anyone else other than the parties involved. I doubt you are were of the parties involved.

Direct knowledge from within the search. He failed his background check and was ruled out by the Monday after CBB was fired (yes, a day before the search firm was even made public. You can go look at my post history and I said "the search is about to change directions within the next 24 hours" that night - before any media people were reporting we had hired a firm).

He then came back into play very briefly when others started not working out - and that was bc we were having him vetted by a second firm, which he failed again, and then was off the board permanently. He could win a National Championship at Memphis and we would still not hire him. He will never be the coach here, barring some massive fixing of things by him to resolve these disputes. Oh, and gambling is not the main problem.

GuvHog

Quote from: Inhogswetrust on December 16, 2017, 10:59:01 am
So he uses exactly all the same plays and terminology all the time in every game. Doubtful. Coaches are known to use a LOT of information from a variety of sources. His working with him in the past would obviously suggest he uses SOME of Gus's stuff but that in NO way suggests it is a carbon copy all the time inn EXACT way.

It isn't DOUBTFUL at all. Do the comparison. Gus taught Morris the offense that Morris runs verbatim and is his mentor. Morris runs the EXACT same HUNH Spread offense that Gus ran at Springdale High School when Mustain (a pro style passing QB) was his QB. The fact that Morris used the same style of QB at SMU that Gus used at Springdale is NOT a coincidence.
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GuvHog

Quote from: TebowHater on December 16, 2017, 11:14:50 am
Direct knowledge from within the search. He failed his background check and was ruled out by the Monday after CBB was fired (yes, a day before the search firm was even made public. You can go look at my post history and I said "the search is about to change directions within the next 24 hours" that night - before any media people were reporting we had hired a firm).

He then came back into play very briefly when others started not working out - and that was bc we were having him vetted by a second firm, which he failed again, and then was off the board permanently. He could win a National Championship at Memphis and we would still not hire him. He will never be the coach here, barring some massive fixing of things by him to resolve these disputes. Oh, and gambling is not the main problem.

That isn't true. You've been lied to by your source to cover up the truth. Norvell wasn't hired because he isn't a Gus Malzahn clone.
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Dr. Starcs

December 16, 2017, 11:20:52 am #55 Last Edit: December 16, 2017, 12:27:03 pm by Dr. Starcs
Quote from: TebowHater on December 16, 2017, 11:14:50 am
Direct knowledge from within the search. He failed his background check and was ruled out by the Monday after CBB was fired (yes, a day before the search firm was even made public. You can go look at my post history and I said "the search is about to change directions within the next 24 hours" that night - before any media people were reporting we had hired a firm).

He then came back into play very briefly when others started not working out - and that was bc we were having him vetted by a second firm, which he failed again, and then was off the board permanently. He could win a National Championship at Memphis and we would still not hire him. He will never be the coach here, barring some massive fixing of things by him to resolve these disputes. Oh, and gambling is not the main problem.

Wooderson

Quote from: TebowHater on December 16, 2017, 11:14:50 am
Direct knowledge from within the search. He failed his background check and was ruled out by the Monday after CBB was fired (yes, a day before the search firm was even made public. You can go look at my post history and I said "the search is about to change directions within the next 24 hours" that night - before any media people were reporting we had hired a firm).

He then came back into play very briefly when others started not working out - and that was bc we were having him vetted by a second firm, which he failed again, and then was off the board permanently. He could win a National Championship at Memphis and we would still not hire him. He will never be the coach here, barring some massive fixing of things by him to resolve these disputes. Oh, and gambling is not the main problem.

And this is why Arkansas hasn't won a single conference championship in 29 years. This is why we suck on a national level and WILL always a be 10-12 in the SEC. We take the high road while winners find ways to win. Oklahoma is about to play for a national championship with an alleged rapist. The Miami's, OUs, OSUs, and bamas will happily hire a great coach with a few skeletons and win, win, win doing it.

If winning isn't the top priority of our admin then why the heck should fans dump a dime into this program? 
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Styflin

Quote from: GuvHog on December 16, 2017, 11:14:59 am
It isn't DOUBTFUL at all. Do the comparison. Gus taught Morris the offense that Morris runs verbatim and is his mentor. Morris runs the EXACT same HUNH Spread offense that Gus ran at Springdale High School when Mustain (a pro style passing QB) was his QB. The fact that Morris used the same style of QB at SMU that Gus used at Springdale is NOT a coincidence.

What offense did Morris run before he became a Gus clone?

Nosboar Accubond

Quote from: Wooderson on December 16, 2017, 11:29:28 am
And this is why Arkansas hasn't won a single conference championship in 29 years. This is why we suck on a national level and WILL always a be 10-12 in the SEC. We take the high road while winners find ways to win. Oklahoma is about to play for a national championship with an alleged rapist. The Miami's, OUs, OSUs, and bamas will happily hire a great coach with a few skeletons and win, win, win doing it.

If winning isn't the top priority of our admin then why the heck should fans dump a dime into this program?
Good to know, so who hired Norvell again?

The Boar War

Quote from: GuvHog on December 16, 2017, 08:25:30 am
This is not true. The reason Norvell didn't get the job had nothing to do with his past. He didn't get the job because he isn't a Gus Malzahn clone. I like Morris and I believe he is a good hire but the only reason he got the job is because he's a Gus clone.

The Malzahnites on the hill controlled the search from the git-go and were determined to pull out all stops to get Malzahn or get his clone. They got what they wanted.

If that had been a truly honest, unbiased, legit coaching search, Norvell would have been hired the day after Gus turned it down.

Even if that were true for us what about Ole Miss.... and Tennessee.... and Mississippi State.... and Florida.... and Arizona State.....

SooieGeneris

Quote from: GuvHog on December 16, 2017, 09:49:41 am
I'm a solid Hog supporter and I'm definitely in Chad Morris's corner but what I said about the coaching search is true. I told no lies about the coaching search nor did I make up any darn about it.

Saying Morris was only hired due to a biased, dishonest search because he's a "Gus clone"... you can't get any more in someone's corner than that..
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Wooderson

Quote from: Nosboar Accubond on December 16, 2017, 11:37:05 am
Good to know, so who hired Norvell again?

So you're if the opinion that he will never be hired away from Memphis? I'll happily make a bet on that.

The fact is we hired an inferior coach to Norvell because our bureaucrats are gutless.
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GuvHog

Quote from: Styflin on December 16, 2017, 11:33:29 am
What offense did Morris run before he became a Gus clone?

He ran the "I formation" in his early years of High School coaching and almost got fired because he wasn't winning. In desperation he went to Gus while Gus was at Springdale HS and Gus taught him his HUNH Spread offense that was being run at Springdale. When Morris implemented the offense at his own high school, his program took off and he won some state titles.
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TebowHater

Quote from: The Boar War on December 16, 2017, 11:43:00 am
Even if that were true for us what about Ole Miss.... and Tennessee.... and Mississippi State.... and Florida.... and Arizona State.....

yuppppppp

Quote from: Dr. Starcs on December 16, 2017, 11:20:52 am
So why don't you tell us all what is the problem?

Because I don't believe in posting unsubstantiated claims that I have not personally verified myself. All I am telling you is that why he was not hired.

GuvHog

Quote from: SooieGeneris on December 16, 2017, 11:43:42 am
Saying Morris was only hired due to a biased, dishonest search because he's a "Gus clone"... you can't get any more in someone's corner than that..

I very much like Morris but I dislike the dishonest way the coaching search was handled.
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GuvHog

Quote from: TebowHater on December 16, 2017, 11:45:35 am
yuppppppp

Because I don't believe in posting unsubstantiated claims that I have not personally verified myself. All I am telling you is that why he was not hired.

Like I said, your source lied to you to cover up the truth.
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Dr. Starcs

December 16, 2017, 11:52:13 am #66 Last Edit: December 16, 2017, 12:26:37 pm by Dr. Starcs
Quote from: TebowHater on December 16, 2017, 11:45:35 am
yuppppppp

Because I don't believe in posting unsubstantiated claims that I have not personally verified myself. All I am telling you is that why he was not hired.


GuvHog

Quote from: The Boar War on December 16, 2017, 11:43:00 am
Even if that were true for us what about Ole Miss.... and Tennessee.... and Mississippi State.... and Florida.... and Arizona State.....

How many times does it have to be said?? He wasn't hired by any of those schools you mentioned because he told them not to bother offering him their HC positions. He was waiting on the Arkansas job because that is the one he really wanted. that's why he held off so long in signing his extension at Memphis until he finally realized that he wasn't going to get the Arkansas job because he isn't a Malzahn clone and that's what the people in control of the search were after.
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oldhawg

I have always had the impression that the Gus Malzahn cult wanted him back because he was connected to an influential Northwest Arkansas group, not because of his style of football.  And then there were those outside of the cult who recognized his success as a D-1 coach.  It appeared that this coalition put together the impetus to bring Malzahn back to Arkansas, even to the point of matching or exceeding Auburn's financial package. 

Then when Malzahn essentially said, "Thanks, but no thanks," other influential players (not football, but high rollers) got more involved in the decision making process, which led to the hiring of Chad Morris.

I do not believe that Gus Malzahn said or inferred "I am not coming back to Arkansas, but lo and behold, my disciple Chad Morris will lead you to the  Holy Land."  And the masses eagerly supported this decision without question.  Even Arkansas is not that parochial.   

Rather it is more practical to think that heavy handed, influential folks with lots of money brought this selection to fruition.  Which was and is IMO a better choice for Arkansas than either Malzahn or Norvell.

But we are all entitled to our opinions.       

farmhawg

Quote from: Inhogswetrust on December 16, 2017, 10:55:06 am
Just because he worked with gus and uses a similar offense does' automatically make him a Gus clone.

By the way Guv here's some breaking news. The moon landing was faked and there was a shooter win the grassy knoll.
Dont get him started....
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TebowHater

Quote from: Dr. Starcs on December 16, 2017, 11:52:13 am
So we're just supposed to take your word for it, even though what you've posted is unsubstantiated. Lol. Cmon man.

No. I am stating that claims 100% exist. Those claims were what made us say no.

What is not clear is whether those claims are true, but unfortunately they seemed to be credible enough for many schools not to worry with him. Still, you can't verify claims in 24 hours or even over the length of a coaching search. There is no need to publicly post unsubstantiated claims. That is all.

Dr. Starcs

I'm so glad we didn't get Gus, much less overpay to get him, for many reasons.

GuvHog

Quote from: oldhawg on December 16, 2017, 11:54:24 am
I have always had the impression that the Gus Malzahn cult wanted him back because he was connected to an influential Northwest Arkansas group, not because of his style of football.  And then there were those outside of the cult who recognized his success as a D-1 coach.  It appeared that this coalition put together the impetus to bring Malzahn back to Arkansas, even to the point of matching or exceeding Auburn's financial package. 

Then when Malzahn essentially said, "Thanks, but no thanks," other influential players (not football, but high rollers) got more involved in the decision making process, which led to the hiring of Chad Morris.

I do not believe that Gus Malzahn said or inferred "I am not coming back to Arkansas, but lo and behold, my disciple Chad Morris will lead you to the  Holy Land."  And the masses eagerly supported this decision without question.  Even Arkansas is not that parochial.   

Rather it is more practical to think that heavy handed, influential folks with lots of money brought this selection to fruition.  Which was and is IMO a better choice for Arkansas than either Malzahn or Norvell.

But we are all entitled to our opinions.       

It's true that when Gus elected to stay at Auburn, he highly recommended Chad Morris. That, along with the fact that Morris is a Gus Malzahn clone, is the reason he got the job. Chad Morris is a very good HC but the people that were controlling the search wanted more than just a great Head coach. They wanted a great coach who is a Gus Malzahn clone. They were so obsessed with getting Gus or a Gus clone that even if Nick Saban had thrown his hat into the ring, he wouldn't have gotten the job.
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Tyro3

Quote from: GuvHog on December 16, 2017, 12:04:19 pm
It's true that when Gus elected to stay at Auburn, he highly recommended Chad Morris. That, along with the fact that Morris is a Gus Malzahn clone, is the reason he got the job. Chad Morris is a very good HC but the people that were controlling the search wanted more than just a great Head coach. They wanted a great coach who is a Gus Malzahn clone.

Guv you may not know much but I will give you an A for being tenacious.

 

GuvHog

Quote from: TebowHater on December 16, 2017, 12:00:16 pm
No. I am stating that claims 100% exist. Those claims were what made us say no.

What is not clear is whether those claims are true, but unfortunately they seemed to be credible enough for many schools not to worry with him. Still, you can't verify claims in 24 hours or even over the length of a coaching search. There is no need to publicly post unsubstantiated claims. That is all.

No other schools considered him because he told them not to bother. He was waiting on the Arkansas job.

Man, you have been seriously duped.
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Nosboar Accubond

Quote from: Wooderson on December 16, 2017, 11:43:48 am
So you're if the opinion that he will never be hired away from Memphis? I'll happily make a bet on that.

The fact is we hired an inferior coach to Norvell because our bureaucrats are gutless.
You guys are amazing, just gloss right over the fact we had one of the most turbulent coaching carousels in the last two decades...

Norvell is cream of the crop, and there's nothing to the fact his name was NEVER mentioned as being in contention for openings where he was more qualified and had ties... yet those programs rolled the dice on othe coaches or COORDINATORS with no HC experience...

Ok

Nosboar Accubond

Quote from: GuvHog on December 16, 2017, 12:09:25 pm
No other schools considered him because he told them not to bother. He was waiting on the Arkansas job.
Wow...

TebowHater

Quote from: GuvHog on December 16, 2017, 12:09:25 pm
No other schools considered him because he told them not to bother. He was waiting on the Arkansas job.

That is wrong. Pruitt at Tenn was hired after we hired Morris. As for the others, still not true as he was out at Arkansas the Monday after CBB was fired. That said, I can't prove this and you can hold on this delusion all you want. There were at least 5 extremely reputable posters who stated this. But you can continue to live in your dream.

Guv, you are delusional. I almost feel like you are trolling us.

Mike Irwin

Quote from: Mr Jade on December 16, 2017, 10:43:13 am
Why couldn't it be a coincidence? Can you prove that it isn't? Correlation does not equal causation. You are confusing the two. Logic insists that aside from evidence, Morris was not hired in a conspiracy. Continuing to say he was without evidence makes you look paranoid and foolish.
I wouldn't call it a conspiracy but it's not a coincidence. Morris was hired because of his offensive ties to Malzahn, what he did at Clemson as OC and because of his recruiting ties in Texas. He was plan B all along. A few of the heavy hitters wanted Norvell but they were outnumbered.

TebowHater

Quote from: Mike Irwin on December 16, 2017, 12:12:19 pm
I wouldn't call it a conspiracy but it's not a coincidence. Morris was hired because of his offensive ties to Malzahn, what he did at Clemson as OC and because of his recruiting ties in Texas. He was plan B all along. A few of the heavy hitters wanted Norvell but they were outnumbered.

This is also only half correct. Once Norvell was out, then Morris became plan to B to Malzahn. We didn't interview Morris until Norvell had been ruled out by our vetting. It was not an outnumbered thing...other than, perhaps, disregarding what the search firm found on MN.

The Boar War

Quote from: GuvHog on December 16, 2017, 11:53:23 am
How many times does it have to be said?? He wasn't hired by any of those schools you mentioned because he told them not to bother offering him their HC positions. He was waiting on the Arkansas job because that is the one he really wanted.

I suppose you have proof of this?  Of course you don't.  So until you do you're asking me to take the word of someone who swore that Mike Anderson would never be our basketball coach because Jeff Long indicated to you that it would never happen.  So I guess you can keep typing your special version of the truth until you feel vindicated.

GuvHog

Quote from: TebowHater on December 16, 2017, 12:11:50 pm
That is wrong. Pruitt at Tenn was hired after we hired Morris. As for the others, still not true as he was out at Arkansas the Monday after CBB was fired. That said, I can't prove this and you can hold on this delusion all you want. There were at least 5 extremely reputable posters who stated this. But you can continue to live in your dream.

Guv, you are delusional. I almost feel like you are trolling us.

There is no delusion. Norvell wasn't considered by any other schools because he told them not to bother. He wanted only one job and that was the Arkansas job.
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TebowHater

Quote from: GuvHog on December 16, 2017, 12:16:19 pm
There is no delusion. Norvell wasn't considered by any other schools because he told them not to bother. He wanted only one job and that was the Arkansas job.

Even after we hired Morris? Even after the search had been going on and we hadn't spoken to him in 10 days? You're trolling.

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GuvHog

Quote from: The Boar War on December 16, 2017, 12:14:46 pm
I suppose you have proof of this?  Of course you don't.  So until you do you're asking me to take the word of someone who swore that Mike Anderson would never be our basketball coach because Jeff Long indicated to you that it would never happen.  So I guess you can keep typing your special version of the truth until you feel vindicated.

I didn't say that about Jeff long. I said, Jeff long stated twice that Mike Anderson was not on his list and then he was forced into hiring him. That is true. Jeff Long was force fed Mike Anderson like a baby in a high chair. He was pressured into hiring Petrino too.
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GuvHog

Quote from: TebowHater on December 16, 2017, 12:18:17 pm
Even after we hired Morris? Even after the search had been going on and we hadn't spoken to him in 10 days? You're trolling.

No I'm not trolling. It's no coincidence that Norvell signed his extension at Memphis the day word leaked out that Morris was going to be hired at Arkansas. Norvell was waiting on the Arkansas job. It's no secret that Norvell turned Ole Miss down and told both Tennessee and Arizona State not to bother offering.
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Science Fiction Greg

Am I the only that literally just laughs at Guv in all these threads?  Do you people actually think he is to be taken seriously?
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Quote from: GuvHog on December 16, 2017, 11:44:52 am
He ran the "I formation" in his early years of High School coaching and almost got fired because he wasn't winning. In desperation he went to Gus while Gus was at Springdale HS and Gus taught him his HUNH Spread offense that was being run at Springdale. When Morris implemented the offense at his own high school, his program took off and he won some state titles.

I've noticed Gus has evolved into more power and huddling in certain situations that he used to not do..  At times his QB was under center this year. 

I hope CCM is more than a one trick pony of hunh because there isn't a D coordinator in the SEC who hasn't seen it.  Most offenses in the SEC run the same style.




Inhogswetrust

Quote from: GuvHog on December 16, 2017, 10:57:32 am
It isn't a theory, it's true. Take your blinders off.

We don't have blinders. We just believe in provable facts.
If I'm going to cheer players and coaches in victory, I damn sure ought to be man enough to stand with them in defeat.

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Inhogswetrust

Quote from: Nosboar Accubond on December 16, 2017, 12:09:48 pm
You guys are amazing, just gloss right over the fact we had one of the most turbulent coaching carousels in the last two decades...

Norvell is cream of the crop, and there's nothing to the fact his name was NEVER mentioned as being in contention for openings where he was more qualified and had ties... yet those programs rolled the dice on othe coaches or COORDINATORS with no HC experience...

Ok


No the cream of the crop is Saban.   
If I'm going to cheer players and coaches in victory, I damn sure ought to be man enough to stand with them in defeat.

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Inhogswetrust

Quote from: GuvHog on December 16, 2017, 12:16:19 pm
There is no delusion. Norvell wasn't considered by any other schools because he told them not to bother. He wanted only one job and that was the Arkansas job.

If true he must be the gambler some are saying because then he gambled and didn't win the job or any other good job. I'm more of the belief that he was in the mix but as Mike said not the top choice. Therefore he should have hedged his bets and interviewed with several and took the best first one that offered. As it appears now he didn't get any offers but you can't prove it was because he said "don't bother".
If I'm going to cheer players and coaches in victory, I damn sure ought to be man enough to stand with them in defeat.

"Why some people are so drawn to the irrational is something that has always puzzled me" - James Randi

Inhogswetrust

Quote from: farmhawg on December 16, 2017, 11:59:02 am
Dont get him started....

I know but it's too much fun making fun of his posts. Besides he already got started. Sorry.
If I'm going to cheer players and coaches in victory, I damn sure ought to be man enough to stand with them in defeat.

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jkstock04

Quote from: TebowHater on December 16, 2017, 11:14:50 am
Direct knowledge from within the search. He failed his background check and was ruled out by the Monday after CBB was fired (yes, a day before the search firm was even made public. You can go look at my post history and I said "the search is about to change directions within the next 24 hours" that night - before any media people were reporting we had hired a firm).

He then came back into play very briefly when others started not working out - and that was bc we were having him vetted by a second firm, which he failed again, and then was off the board permanently. He could win a National Championship at Memphis and we would still not hire him. He will never be the coach here, barring some massive fixing of things by him to resolve these disputes. Oh, and gambling is not the main problem.
I think it's funny how you guys spout this stuff out in a cryptic manner, but won't put in plain English exactly why he didn't pass background checks.
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Inhogswetrust

Quote from: GuvHog on December 16, 2017, 12:04:19 pm
It's true that when Gus elected to stay at Auburn, he highly recommended Chad Morris. That, along with the fact that Morris is a Gus Malzahn clone, is the reason he got the job. Chad Morris is a very good HC but the people that were controlling the search wanted more than just a great Head coach. They wanted a great coach who is a Gus Malzahn clone. They were so obsessed with getting Gus or a Gus clone that even if Nick Saban had thrown his hat into the ring, he wouldn't have gotten the job.

NOW you proved you're in need of some serious psychological help!
If I'm going to cheer players and coaches in victory, I damn sure ought to be man enough to stand with them in defeat.

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Inhogswetrust

Quote from: Possible Oatmeal on December 16, 2017, 12:32:37 pm
Am I the only that literally just laughs at Guv in all these threads?  Do you people actually think he is to be taken seriously?

No we don't take him serious. We do believe HE thinks he should be taken serious.
If I'm going to cheer players and coaches in victory, I damn sure ought to be man enough to stand with them in defeat.

"Why some people are so drawn to the irrational is something that has always puzzled me" - James Randi

HawgTide

Quote from: wpswillriseagain on December 16, 2017, 10:25:38 am
If Morris was at Memphis he would have beat SMU too. Morris in my opinion making that SMU program a potential 8 win team is more impressive then what Norvell walked into. Smite away but that’s my opinion


Morris was set up to win 10 or 11 next year at SMU. They return 9 starters on Offense and 9 on Defense. Norvell was my 1st choice too but Morris did a nice rebuild at Smoo

wpswillriseagain

Quote from: HawgTide on December 16, 2017, 01:41:35 pm

Morris was set up to win 10 or 11 next year at SMU. They return 9 starters on Offense and 9 on Defense. Norvell was my 1st choice too but Morris did a nice rebuild at Smoo
both would have been good choices but Morris showed he can take over a program in rough shape. Norvell hasn't, I would have been happy with either but I think Morris was the smaller risk.

BearsBisonsBoars

Quote from: Dr. Starcs on December 16, 2017, 10:51:40 am
But oh yeah, it's the popular thing to go after Guv.

He's just repeating wild speculation as if it were fact. There's no source  and no logic behind his posts.

GuvHog

Quote from: jkstock04 on December 16, 2017, 01:38:13 pm
I think it’s funny how you guys spout this stuff out in a cryptic manner, but won’t put in plain English exactly why he didn’t pass background checks.

Exactly. They claim I have no proof or source but they think it's perfectly fine that they either don't have one themselves or won't reveal one. The claim that Norvell failed the background check is mere unproven speculation as well.
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Nosboar Accubond

Quote from: GuvHog on December 16, 2017, 12:26:51 pm
No I'm not trolling. It's no coincidence that Norvell signed his extension at Memphis the day word leaked out that Morris was going to be hired at Arkansas. Norvell was waiting on the Arkansas job. It's no secret that Norvell turned Ole Miss down and told both Tennessee and Arizona State not to bother offering.
ASU was never, nor may ever, employ Norvell again...