Re: I can't stand Missouri

[Dr. Starcs]

Those same fans are also St Louis Cardinals fans. Yet, thousands of arkansans claim them as "their" team. Never understood that one either.

[Papples]

Those same fans are also St Louis Cardinals fans. Yet, thousands of arkansans claim them as "their" team. Never understood that one either.

Real Arkansans follow Razorbacks baseball, not overpriced MLB teams.

[LZH]

Those same fans are also St Louis Cardinals fans. Yet, thousands of arkansans claim them as "their" team. Never understood that one either.

The Travelers used to be the AA affiliate for the Cards.  I'm pretty sure this is it.

[HogsGoneWild]

I'm one of the biggest hog fans there is and I'm also one of the biggest cardinal fans there is, I've lived in Arkansas my whole life so I don't see how that makes me less an arkansan???

[norforkian]

Those same fans are also St Louis Cardinals fans. Yet, thousands of arkansans claim them as "their" team. Never understood that one either.

Cardinal fans both in Ark and Miz suck.  Hate them all

[cardsNhogs]

Those same fans are also St Louis Cardinals fans. Yet, thousands of arkansans claim them as "their" team. Never understood that one either.

Well I can't either but I love my cardinals an can't stand Mizzu.

[cardsNhogs]

The Travelers used to be the AA affiliate for the Cards.  I'm pretty sure this is it.

Has nothing to do with it for me. Grandpa was huge cardinals fan and been going to Busch stadium since a child.

[LZH]

Good friend of mine was a scout the the Cards, and like him, most of the die-hard fans I think of are older than me (45).  Goes back to the MMQB thread about radio games.  They grew up listening to the Cardinals on AM radio and coupled with the Travs being affiliates they adopted them as their own.

[PonderinHog]

Cardinal fans both in Ark and Miz suck.  Hate them all

Cubs fan?

[Dr. Starcs]

I just don't get all the cardinal love from folks around here. Other than the people who strictly follow them back to their traveler days I guess.

Funny how we have the royals that are much closer to us, yet because they suck nobody loves them. Or at least they aren't as in your face as cards fans.

[dgfclt]

I just don't get all the cardinal love from folks around here. Other than the people who strictly follow them back to their traveler days I guess.

Funny how we have the royals that are much closer to us, yet because they suck nobody loves them. Or at least they aren't as in your face as cards fans.

The Cardinal love goes back a few generations.  That is from the Travelers and more importantly there not being another MLB team south of St. Louis for a very very long time.  KMOX could be heard very clearly in Arkansas so most heard the games on the radio and became fans. 

The Royals do not have a national presence at all. The Cardinals do.

[Ironhawg]

I just don't get all the cardinal love from folks around here. Other than the people who strictly follow them back to their traveler days I guess.

Funny how we have the royals that are much closer to us, yet because they suck nobody loves them. Or at least they aren't as in your face as cards fans.

I never have understood the loyalty of Cardinal fans in Arkansas either.  Both my grandfathers were from northeast Arkansas and both were huge Cardinal fans.  I was a Royals fan for years and years, but got to where the constant losing sucked the fun out of being a fan.

[LZH]

I never have understood the loyalty of Cardinal fans in Arkansas either.  Both my grandfathers were from northeast Arkansas and both were huge Cardinal fans.  I was a Royals fan for years and years, but got to where the constant losing sucked the fun out of being a fan.

I actually became a Braves fan back when we first got cable TV in SEArk and WTBS in Atlanta showed games all the time.  I can only say that there are a ton of Cardinal fans around here and they are crazier than the die-hard Cowboy fans.

[Jborohog09]

The amount of Cardinal fans here in Jonesboro is nauseating, they never shut up about them.  If you tell them you're not a fan then they act like you just ran over their dog and are the scum of the Earth.

[60 Minutes of Hell]

I fail to see how being a Cards fan adversely affects one's ability to root for the diamond hogs.  In the 90's I was all about the Jazz and the Pacers, but when it came to college ball there was no question.  After your pro radar whiffs beyond a certain radius, geographic proximity really isn't all that relevant.

[Papples]

Well I can't either but I love my cardinals an can't stand Mizzu.

Unless you live in Missouri, they're not "your" Cardinals.  If you don't live Missouri, you're really no different than someone in India wearing a Yankees shirt and claiming to be a Yankees fan.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say most of these Arkansas Cardinals fans are also Dallas Cowboys fans.  Frontrunners.

[PonderinHog]

Unless you live in Missouri, they're not "your" Cardinals.  If you don't live Missouri, you're really no different than someone in India wearing a Yankees shirt and claiming to be a Yankees fan.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say most of these Arkansas Cardinals fans are also Dallas Cowboys fans.  Frontrunners.

So please, all knowing one, which professional baseball team may I root for, now that I can no longer pull for the Cardinals?

[LZH]

Unless you live in Missouri, they're not "your" Cardinals.  If you don't live Missouri, you're really no different than someone in India wearing a Yankees shirt and claiming to be a Yankees fan.

Where do you live?

[60 Minutes of Hell]

Unless you live in Missouri, they're not "your" Cardinals.

So..because I live in Austin, I should be sporting burnt orange?  I would type a longer and more hateful response, but the thought of that hypothetical has made me nauseous.

[secfan30]

Unless you live in Missouri, they're not "your" Cardinals.  If you don't live Missouri, you're really no different than someone in India wearing a Yankees shirt and claiming to be a Yankees fan.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say most of these Arkansas Cardinals fans are also Dallas Cowboys fans.  Frontrunners.

Only watch Razorback Baseball, love the Cowboys. When I was growing up I hated everything Texas, but on Sunday the Cowboys were one of 2 games I could watch. my mom being from Dallas and when I visited Dallas I met more Hog fans than anything else made me like them and forgive them for being from Texas.

I hate idiots and their idiot generalizations.

[tusksincolorado]

Those same fans are also St Louis Cardinals fans. Yet, thousands of arkansans claim them as "their" team. Never understood that one either.

KMOX usually is all that needs to be stated. Very similar to the old KAAY that was based in LR. KMOX reached all the way to Denver and several surrounding States. So Fans were made by listening to the "Gas House Gang", Dizzy and Paul Dean, Stan "The Man" Musial, Bob Gibson and many other Summer heroes. The Cards also have won the most World Series Titles of any National League Club, and are 2nd only to the Yankees in All-Time Titles. 

Then, as far as my Father and his Brothers, the Cardinals were the only team West of the Mississippi for years until the Dodgers moved from Brooklyn. Baseball was "America's Game", before, during, and after WWII. My Dad would hardly every speak of his time in Europe, except for "his Buddies, and how Joe could hit that ball during their wait for the Invasion of Normandy. I also remember when my Dad took me to the Original Busch the year it opened. Fortunately I was able to relive that moment when I took my Son to Busch 2 inaugural season in 06' for the series against the Dodgers after the All-Star break, which was a 4 game sweep by the Cards. That was a magical season, and moment for both of us!

So yeah, there's alot of "Old" Cardinal fans in this part of the Country. And yeah, there are many reasons why we are passionate.

[LZH]

Where do you live?

So..because I live in Austin, I should be sporting burnt orange?  I would type a longer and more hateful response, but the thought of that hypothetical has made me nauseous.

Only watch Razorback Baseball, love the Cowboys. When I was growing up I hated everything Texas, but on Sunday the Cowboys were one of 2 games I could watch. my mom being from Dallas and when I visited Dallas I met more Hog fans than anything else made me like them and forgive them for being from Texas.

I hate idiots and their idiot generalizations.

** Les crickets..... **

[The_Iceman]

Go Cardinals and Go Hogs!!

[popcornhog]

Real Arkansans follow Razorbacks baseball, not overpriced MLB teams.

I follow both. I guess I'm a false Arkansan?

[AKT]

The Travelers used to be the AA affiliate for the Cards.  I'm pretty sure this is it.
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I think AA cardinals is Springfield. AA angels are travelers.

[tusksincolorado]

The amount of Cardinal fans here in Jonesboro is nauseating, they never shut up about them.  If you tell them you're not a fan then they act like you just ran over their dog and are the scum of the Earth.

Well folks in that part of the country are pretty loyal to a team that was a little over 2 hour drive away, established team for decades, constantly on the radio,.....oh and a WINNER!

[tusksincolorado]

The Travelers used to be the AA affiliate for the Cards.  I'm pretty sure this is it.
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I think AA cardinals is Springfield. AA angels are travelers.

USE TO BE.

[secfan30]

The Travelers used to be the AA affiliate for the Cards.  I'm pretty sure this is it.
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I think AA cardinals is Springfield. AA angels are travelers.

The Travelers were the Cards offiliate from 1966-2000 is wht I believe he was getting at.

[tusksincolorado]

Cardinal fans both in Ark and Miz suck.  Hate them all

CUBBIE Fan....UHH?

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[3kgthog]

I think AA cardinals is Springfield. AA angels are travelers.

Key word in his post being USED to be.

I'm a Cards fan because that was the only team on TV where I grew up in Arkansas and a Cards game was the first baseball game my parents took me to as a kid. It should be noted that I'm not a Cowboys fan, but I do hold Diamond Hog season tickets. I guess I'm only half a real Arkansan.

[AKT]

I see.  As a rangers fan I remember going to a travelers game when I was a kid and rooting against them.

[McKdaddy]

Those same fans are also St Louis Cardinals fans. Yet, thousands of arkansans claim them as "their" team. Never understood that one either.

I was a born and raised Cards fan, as was my dad and grandpa. First MLB team west of the mississippi, so a lot of people adopted them that aren't in MO.

[McKdaddy]

The amount of Cardinal fans here in Jonesboro is nauseating, they never shut up about them.  If you tell them you're not a fan then they act like you just ran over their dog and are the scum of the Earth.

Well, are you?

[cardsNhogs]

Unless you live in Missouri, they're not "your" Cardinals.  If you don't live Missouri, you're really no different than someone in India wearing a Yankees shirt and claiming to be a Yankees fan.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say most of these Arkansas Cardinals fans are also Dallas Cowboys fans.  Frontrunners.

I live 10 minutes from Missouri and work in Missouri. My cardinals.

[cardsNhogs]

KMOX usually is all that needs to be stated. Very similar to the old KAAY that was based in LR. KMOX reached all the way to Denver and several surrounding States. So Fans were made by listening to the "Gas House Gang", Dizzy and Paul Dean, Stan "The Man" Musial, Bob Gibson and many other Summer heroes. The Cards also have won the most World Series Titles of any National League Club, and are 2nd only to the Yankees in All-Time Titles. 

Then, as far as my Father and his Brothers, the Cardinals were the only team West of the Mississippi for years until the Dodgers moved from Brooklyn. Baseball was "America's Game", before, during, and after WWII. My Dad would hardly every speak of his time in Europe, except for "his Buddies, and how Joe could hit that ball during their wait for the Invasion of Normandy. I also remember when my Dad took me to the Original Busch the year it opened. Fortunately I was able to relive that moment when I took my Son to Busch 2 inaugural season in 06' for the series against the Dodgers after the All-Star break, which was a 4 game sweep by the Cards. That was a magical season, and moment for both of us!

So yeah, there's alot of "Old" Cardinal fans in this part of the Country. And yeah, there are many reasons why we are passionate.

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[Break & Run]

Good God!  This thread is about ARKANSAS versus Missouri in BASKETBALL...

Not the Cards or who your favorite MLB team is.  Goodness.

[discombobulationist]

Has nothing to do with it for me. Grandpa was huge cardinals fan and been going to Busch stadium since a child.

ditto

[tusksincolorado]

Good God!  This thread is about ARKANSAS versus Missouri in BASKETBALL...

Not the Cards or who your favorite MLB team is.  Goodness.

NO....THIS IS THE NORTH VS. THE SOUTH!   

[McKdaddy]

My grandpa was a Cards fan before becoming a Hog fan. My dad raised me the same as his dad raised him. There are as many pics of me as a toddler and little kid w/ Cards gear on as with Hogs gear.

My dad introduced me to and raised me to love 2 of my most treasured things: Cards and Hogs.

#MyCards

[Dr. Starcs]

So much for good ole american ingenuity and thinking for yourself.

Look, I get the folks who have roots in Missouri, but calling them "your cards" just cause daddy and grandpa did and you live in Arkansas is kinda sad. You think those cards fans/players up there give a rip about you?  They couldn't care less if you are a fan of theirs or not. Fact is, you (we) live in Arkansas.

[LZH]

So much for good ole american ingenuity and thinking for yourself.

Look, I get the folks who have roots in Missouri, but calling them "your cards" just cause daddy and grandpa did and you live in Arkansas is kinda sad. You think those cards fans/players up there give a rip about you?  They couldn't care less if you are a fan of theirs or not. Fact is, you (we) live in Arkansas.

They do if they watch them on TV, buy their apparel, etc.  You think the Hog fans in Dallas, Memphis, and Tulsa don't matter to the UofA or it's 'home' fans?

[Dr. Starcs]

Yes, but those hogs fan 99% of the time are either from Arkansas or went to school here.

I would venture to guess that 99% of cards fans living in Arkansas have no tie to Missouri other than "well my dad was a cards fan and his daddy was too".

[McKdaddy]

So much for good ole american ingenuity and thinking for yourself.

Look, I get the folks who have roots in Missouri, but calling them "your cards" just cause daddy and grandpa did and you live in Arkansas is kinda sad. You think those cards fans/players up there give a rip about you?  They couldn't care less if you are a fan of theirs or not. Fact is, you (we) live in Arkansas.

Doesn't matter where I live (not in Arkansas). They're in my heart, part of my mind and soul.

#MyCards

[LZH]

Yes, but those hogs fan 99% of the time are either from Arkansas or went to school here.

I would venture to guess that 99% of cards fans living in Arkansas have no tie to Missouri other than "well my dad was a cards fan and his daddy was too".

That may be, actually it probably is, but the fact remains that sports are not a regional activity anymore.  I guarantee these teams are damn glad to have the sales and support from anywhere.

If a guy from Ohio logged in here today and said "hey guys, I've been following your team lately and have become a fan...is it OK with you if I hang out here on Hogville as I watch the game?"   -   you don't think he'd be welcomed?

[McKdaddy]

Yes, but those hogs fan 99% of the time are either from Arkansas or went to school here.

I would venture to guess that 99% of cards fans living in Arkansas have no tie to Missouri other than "well my dad was a cards fan and his daddy was too".

Maybe it's just a bond b/t my father and I. I'm not saddened by it or embarrassed. It is our bond. It is something we celebrate or anguish over together. It's a bond we cherish and appreciate. I love talking Cards baseball w/ my dad. It's our thing.

[Science Fiction Greg]

Believe it or not, people can choose to be a fan of whatever team they want to without anyone else's permission.

What a weird thread.

[Jborohog09]

Well, are you?

haha, nope.  I don't dislike the Cardinals, just their fans around here. 

[bsking]

I've spent a lot of time around a lot of fanbases but I have never seen an MLB fanbase with a more homer crowd.  Not entirely sure why, but 4/5 Cards fans are so delusional about their team that you can't have a conversation.

Say Stan Musial wasn't a top 10 player of all time and you'll get punched in the throat.

[99toLife]

I've spent a lot of time around a lot of fanbases but I have never seen an MLB fanbase with a more homer crowd.  Not entirely sure why, but 4/5 Cards fans are so delusional about their team that you can't have a conversation.

Say Stan Musial wasn't a top 10 player of all time and you'll get punched in the throat.

By a 75 year old blue haired old lady.

[McKdaddy]

I love sitting near the blue hairs that are reciting stats like the sporting news were sitting in front of them.