NIck Williams

[labb]

How about it Tomhog, Woo  Pig  Stewie or any of you recruiting folks. What do you know about Nick Williams of Le Flore H.S., Mobile, Alabama. Originally committed to Marquette Basketball..Rumored to be headed to the Hill.

[gohawgsgo]

How about it Tomhog, Woo  Pig  Stewie or any of you recruiting folks. What do you know about Nick Williams of Le Flore H.S., Mobile, Alabama. Originally committed to Marquette Basketball..Rumored to be headed to the Hill.

Looks like a good prospect to me.  Heck, Pel should know a lot about him being from Mobile where USA is located.  My only question would be, why didn't we start after him earlier?

[Wildhog]

Looks like a good prospect to me.  Heck, Pel should know a lot about him being from Mobile where USA is located.  My only question would be, why didn't we start after him earlier?

If he's from Mobile, and Pel hasn't been after him, that should tell a lot.

[mbgrulz]

If he's from Mobile, and Pel hasn't been after him, that should tell a lot.

Pel doesn't need any more help in the backcourt, but he went to go see him. that says a lot.

the kid was also previously signed to another school.

[hogfan0307]

If he's from Mobile, and Pel hasn't been after him, that should tell a lot.

not true

[kibster]

ESPN has him the #40 ranked player and the #9 shooting guard.   They seem to really like him and seems like he would fit great in Pel's system.

http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=43668&season=2008&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncb%2frecruiting%2ftracker%2fplayer%3frecruitId%3d43668%26season%3d2008

[The_Bionic_Pig]

How about it Tomhog, Woo  Pig  Stewie or any of you recruiting folks. What do you know about Nick Williams of Le Flore H.S., Mobile, Alabama. Originally committed to Marquette Basketball..Rumored to be headed to the Hill.

That is Demarcus Cousins teamate in High School. He started out as a 4 Star who committed to Marquette 08/02/06 over several schools including Alabama, Auburn, Cincinnati, Florida State, Kansas, Mississippi, Missouri, Miami and Oklahoma.

He is 6'4 1/2 now (rivals needs to update)  He see's himself playing SG/SF position in college. He averaged 17 points and 8 rebounds per game his sophomore yr. At one point he was rated top 60 player on scout.com heading into last summer.

Article

[The Boar War]

Looks like he's interested in Arkansas, Alabama, Wake Forest, and Indiana.

[JIHawg]

Can you say "triplets" kind of guy!  This guy is high on our list, and we are high on his.

[Razorvet]

Where does he say he is intrested in Arky?

[The Boar War]

Where does he say he is intrested in Arky?

Different part of the blog.  Here's the direct link.

http://blog.al.com/rapsheet/2008/04/leflore_coach_nick_williams_is.html

Warning it is slanted towards Alabama.

[RZRBack_FAN]

So is he a 08 recruit or 09? Im on my cell phone so i cant read any of the articles.

[The Boar War]

So is he a 08 recruit or 09? Im on my cell phone so i cant read any of the articles.

Article says he was a 2008 Marquette recruit that was let out of his loi when Tom Crean left the job.

[hogfan0307]

Different part of the blog.  Here's the direct link.

http://blog.al.com/rapsheet/2008/04/leflore_coach_nick_williams_is.html

Warning it is slanted towards Alabama.

He has eliminated Bama

[harmonyhog]

Since Crean now at Indiana he will probabaly end up there.

[The_Bionic_Pig]

Since Crean now at Indiana he will probabaly end up there.

nope and I am 90% sure of that...

[gohawgsgo]

nope and I am 90% sure of that...

Stewie, do you believe our coaches like Williams better than Dumes?  Would they possibly take both?

[Hog Fan from Camden]

Why would we not save this scholly for next year?  I would rather have Walton or Gully next year than Williams this year......unless we have another guard leave???

[J.A.Y.]

SOOO, how much could this help us with Demarcus Cousins?

[Beaverfever]

Why would we not save this scholly for next year?  I would rather have Walton or Gully next year than Williams this year......unless we have another guard leave???

I'd forget about walton and gulley if I were you.

[Hollywood_HOGan45]

we need big guards but we need frontcourt players more.

Brown should be a higher priority than Dumes or Williams.

[opineonswine]

I believe Nick will be here this weekend for an official visit.

[PorkSoda]

Why would we not save this scholly for next year?  I would rather have Walton or Gully next year than Williams this year......unless we have another guard leave???

I'd rather have S. Williams in 09

[dotnet]

ESPN also rates him a 90.  That sounds like a lot since they question his shooting.  If you go and look at the other people who have a rating of 90 and above, well... we'll take anyone who is rated a 90.  That would be higher than any other player we've signed in a long time.

[AnthroHog]

Scout says that 3 point range is one of his strengths.

http://arkansas.scout.com/a.z?s=10&p=8&c=1&nid=2348524

[mbgrulz]

we need big guards but we need frontcourt players more.

Brown should be a higher priority than Dumes or Williams.

i disagree. i think a bigger 2 guard is a must for us. also, im not sold on brown's ability to be a difference maker. he is a 6-7 PF who averaged 3 ppg in the SEC the last time around. i wouldn't be upset if we signed him, but i don't know about his talent level.

The big question right now is who is leaving the team!!! with all these name flying around, someone from the current roster must be leaving.

[The_Bionic_Pig]

So Nick Williams' analysis on ESPN reads like he is a shooting guard that can't shoot.  He hasn't perfected the long range game, doesn't shoot the mid range shot well(good but could be better according to the report), doesn't make good decisions in driving to the basket,... Didn't we just have a guard with similar tendencies who may have actually shot better from the outside than this Williams' kid that most of you people hated?

Nick Williams was the leading scorer for LeFlore believe and Demarcus Cousins is on that same High School team.  He is overshadowed by Mr. Cousins potential but irreguardless he is the leader of one of the top High School basketball programs in the nations. 

[chiefsfan]

Why would we not save this scholly for next year?  I would rather have Walton or Gully next year than Williams this year......unless we have another guard leave???

Read the threads about possible playes leaving.   We may be losing Britt.   And its hard to say with Welsh...   He almost left last year, and if he is destined to lose his job next year...He certainly could run off.     

Plus its not too often that a Four Star Shooting Guard that has a previous relationship with your head coach just happens to reopen his recruitment.    Those are the type of players you find a scholarship for

[PorkSoda]

Could Nick Williams play PG?  It would be sweet to add a 6-4 PG to the lineup

[returntoglory]

We have so many freaking leads and not enough scholarships. I realize that Britt, Welsh, and maybe Washington may leave, or have all at least been rumored to leave, but this is ridiculous.

[farmhawg]

We have so many freaking leads and not enough scholarships. I realize that Britt, Welsh, and maybe Washington may leave, or have all at least been rumored to leave, but this is ridiculous.

It is  not ridiculous. It is a great problem to have. Instead of being like Stan, and taking 5 years to show improvement, Pelphrey is out to make a better BB team. He is doing it in an amazingly short time. This will be a much different team NEXT year. I wish all coaches had that sense of urgency.

[The_Bionic_Pig]

It is  not ridiculous. It is a great problem to have. Instead of being like Stan, and taking 5 years to show improvement, Pelphrey is out to make a better BB team. He is doing it in an amazingly short time. This will be a much different team NEXT year. I wish all coaches had that sense of urgency.

He is recruiting with the WIN NOW attitude... no-one on the current roster can relax because he can recruit the type of players that can beat you out of your starting job from DAY 1.    We will have defections next season and the season after that, and the season after that....happens at every program.    I think the difference between Stan Heath and John Pelphrey is Coach Stan was looking to add great talent to the roster while Coach Pelphrey is looking to upgrade.

[J.A.Y.]

read on another board that it is 50/50 AR or Indiana....

not a pay board.

[Petrinohoggy]

Looks like a good prospect to me.  Heck, Pel should know a lot about him being from Mobile where USA is located.  My only question would be, why didn't we start after him earlier?

Well he committed to Marquette in his Soph. season, so he must have a pretty good relationship with Tom Crean.

[opineonswine]

So Nick Williams' analysis on ESPN reads like he is a shooting guard that can't shoot.  He hasn't perfected the long range game, doesn't shoot the mid range shot well(good but could be better according to the report), doesn't make good decisions in driving to the basket,... Didn't we just have a guard with similar tendencies who may have actually shot better from the outside than this Williams' kid that most of you people hated?

Trust Pel.

[returntoglory]

I didn't mean ridiculous as ludicrous. I guess I was just saying that I have never seen this before. I am a fairly young hog fan, and I can't remember the last time that we had so many options with so little scholarships.

[returntoglory]

And yes, I agree that it is a great problem to have.

[Buck Brewer]

Pel has early 90's on his mind, he wants to run you out of the gym and he wants to platoon like Nolan once did, send in wave after wave of fresh bodies.

[The_Bionic_Pig]

Not as effective as it once was.  Timeouts per half have been added allowing teams to rest.  Almost every game is on tv giving teams a chance to rest every 4+ minutes.  And teams figured out how to control tempo.  Up tempo can still work if you can score but the days of running teams into the ground are done with an occassional exception.

You full court press someone and they are not effective at breaking it they will become cowards of stamina..... no matter how many timeouts you have.

[ntubjr]

Well put

[Tomhog™]

It may be frustrating to turn away good talent, but get used to it. As long as Arkansas has Pelphrey, it will have it's pick of top talent. Maybe not a Derrick Favors-type every recruit, but certainly top 100 type players.

[Bigfoot]

It may be frustrating to turn away good talent, but get used to it. As long as Arkansas has Pelphrey, it will have it's pick of top talent. Maybe not a Derrick Favors-type every recruit, but certainly top 100 type players.

I can get used to that! 

[The Boar War]

Is Nick Williams a three star or a four star?  I've read both.

[The_Champ]

Fo Sho

[opineonswine]

You full court press someone and they are not effective at breaking it they will become cowards of stamina..... no matter how many timeouts you have.

Plus, if you have multiple scorers, you are deadly.  We haven't had multiple offensive threats in years.

[UltimateHog]

4 star.

[keithh1999]

I think that you can never have TOO much talent, even at the same positions... I do trust Pel, and feel that the program is in excellent hands... haven't felt that in a while

[Petrinohoggy]

3 * per Rivals

http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=46800&sport=2

[The_Bionic_Pig]

3 * per Rivals

http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=46800&sport=2

Rivals & Scout have both had him as a 4 STAR at one point....after he committed to MU his Sophomore year and schools dropped interest his popularity plumeted.  I cannot say this enough both services seem to be more infactuated with who offers you rather than taking a personal interest in each recruit they evaluate.     Patrick Beverly was a 2 Star until the Late signing period hit then Michigan took a interest then in 2 weeks jumped to a high 4 Star.   

At the same time I can't get too upset with their databases how would you like to attempt to evaluate 100,000 new H.S. athletes each year and break it down to the best 100-250.  I don't envy that job.

[PorkSoda]

Not as effective as it once was.  Timeouts per half have been added allowing teams to rest.  Almost every game is on tv giving teams a chance to rest every 4+ minutes.  And teams figured out how to control tempo.  Up tempo can still work if you can score but the days of running teams into the ground are done with an occassional exception.

In a sense I think you are right, but I think you have to try and press and try to create TO's even if you don't do it fourty minutes of hell style.  There comes a time when you just need to play sound basket ball.  everyone loves fast break, but you need to have an effective half court game to succeed.  Its all about learning how to set up an effective screen and get a good look, or moving the ball and rotating guys around trying to find an open look.  with the type of team that pelphrey is building, we will have several options on the offensive side of the ball.  On Defense its all about hustle and tenacity; getting all up in their face and sticking to them like glue.  That is the kind of stuff that frustrates some guys, and will create turnovers.