Kansas Fans

[hogfan_no1]

I grew up in southern Arkansas, and graduated the U of A in the early '80s (during the Holtz/Sutton era).  Been living here in Kansas City for just over 20 years.  When I moved here, the only thing I knew about the (at the time) Big 8 conference was that OU and Nebraska played every year for the right to go to the Orange Bowl.  At first, I was excited to learn that Lawrence is only 30 minutes from here, and I was ready to learn to become a "homer".  That is, until I met some of these arrogant, cocky, overbearing, obnoxius, pompous, God's-gift-to-college-basketball KU fans.  (While coaching here, Roy Williams once called them the "wine-and-cheese crowd".)  I realize all colleges have their share of these types of fans, but KU has WAY more than their fair share.  They have no conference allegience and ALWAYS (no matter the circumstances) root against Mizzou and K-State.

I had been living here in KC less than a month when a KU alum assured me that the campus in Lawrence was, by far, the most beautiful campus in the country.  Having never been there, I took him at his word, and decided to tour it for myself one Saturday afternoon,  (You guessed it - I had nothing better to do).  It is just an ordinary campus - nothing spectacular - that's built on one big hill.  Went in to Phog Allen Field House, and thought it was a dump!  It was built in the 40's, needs a make-over in the worst way, and smelled like gym socks.  I was toally unimpressed!  Upon my return to KC, I asked this alum...
"Have you ever been to Fayetteville, AR"?
"No."
"Have you ever been to Knoxville, TN"?
"No."
"Have you ever been to Boulder, CO"?
"No."
"Then for God's sake, please stop making comments like 'KU is the most beautiful campus in the country'.  It only makes you look foolish and shows your ignorance".

[Killean]

Ironically I've been to all the aforementioned Campuses.. I think I prefer the UA campus lol.

[fearless_leader]

having degrees from both Arkansas and KU, I agree with the assessment of a bunch of pompous, obnoxious fans. 

To be fair, they did once employ the founder of the game as a head coach. 

Phog Allen fieldhouse is all the things you said it is:  old, smelly, dated.  It's also beautiful.  No luxury boxes, just 16000 seats. 

The real problem with Kansas fans is that like 80% of their students come from the Kansas City area and once finished with school, that's where they all go live.  It's a perspective thing.


But since I have a degree from there, I'm happy today.  Besides, it's not like they were playing somebody we all really like, is it?

[mizzouman]

I've been to a lot of campuses around the country and there's not way to pick the best because each campus has it's own identity.  For the ones I've been to, the most beautiful campus is Stanford, the best surroundings is Colorado.  I have been to both Fayetteville and Lawrence and I would have to give the edge to KU but both fail in comparison to Mizzou  :-)

Seriously, Mizzou has a very nice campus but not the best I've been to. 

[hogfan064]

I've been to a lot of campuses around the country and there's not way to pick the best because each campus has it's own identity.  For the ones I've been to, the most beautiful campus is Stanford, the best surroundings is Colorado.  I have been to both Fayetteville and Lawrence and I would have to give the edge to KU but both fail in comparison to Mizzou  :-)

Seriously, Mizzou has a very nice campus but not the best I've been to. 

I've been to many different campuses as well.  IMO Virginia has the nicest I've been to and ULM has the worst.

[Geohul]

Starkville is Gorgeous this time of year. 

[DukeOfPork]

I grew up in Kansas and very nearly attended KU.  Both of my sisters graduated from KU.  A few clarifications:

KU is, in fact, a pretty campus.

KU basketball fans are, in fact, arrogant beyond belief.

Allen Fieldhouse is extremely old and dated, but that is precisely what makes it unique.  You walk in there and it is 1940 all over again.

KU fans WILL PAY DEARLY for this championship.  They have an AD that is fully prepared to squeeze every cent he can out of them.  He was probably in the office at 7am this morning, restructuring the donation and seat license requirements.

[sooie dog]

I've been to many different campuses as well.  IMO Virginia has the nicest I've been to and ULM has the worst.

I've been to many different campuses as well.  IMO Virginia has the nicest I've been to and ULM has the worst.

You don't like Bayou De Siard?

[George S. Pigton]

Well, would have to agree about KU fans in general, though I do think Bill Self is a good
person and I'm happy for him.  Saying that, there is nothing good I could have said about
Memphis or their coach if they had won.

As for the great campus debate, of the the three - KU,MO,& AR I would give the edge to AR
on its location only.  The Hills give it the edge in my book, otherwise nothing remarkable about
the three compared to older schools east of here and Stanford out west.  USC is nice as well. 

[hogfan064]

Does the Rock Chalk Jayhawk chant scare anyone?  That's some weird stuff.

[mizzouman]

I grew up in Kansas and very nearly attended KU.  Both of my sisters graduated from KU.  A few clarifications:

KU is, in fact, a pretty campus.

KU basketball fans are, in fact, arrogant beyond belief.

Allen Fieldhouse is extremely old and dated, but that is precisely what makes it unique.  You walk in there and it is 1940 all over again.

KU fans WILL PAY DEARLY for this championship.  They have an AD that is fully prepared to squeeze every cent he can out of them.  He was probably in the office at 7am this morning, restructuring the donation and seat license requirements.

Lew Perkins, KU AD, is unethical and I won't even go into how they got the Orange Bowl bid.  In fact, the last couple of AD's at KU were unethical.  They got slammed by the NCAA for both football and basketball violations a couple of years ago and this is a direct quote from the AD.  "Compliance doesn't sell tickets."

[hogfan064]

Lew Perkins, KU AD, is unethical and I won't even go into how they got the Orange Bowl bid.  In fact, the last couple of AD's at KU were unethical.  They got slammed by the NCAA for both football and basketball violations a couple of years ago and this is a direct quote from the AD.  "Compliance doesn't sell tickets."

I figured the reason KU made it to the Orange Bowl was b/c Mangino threatened to eat the Orange Bowl officials while they were sleeping.

[Corkscrew Johnson]

if you have ever been to lawrence, you know why kansas fans are so obsessed with the team...they have nothing else to live for.  talk about boring.

but don't take it from me...take it from former Kansas Jayhawk Drew Gooden when drafted by the Memphis Grizzlies, on national television:
reporter: "what are your thoughts on moving to Memphis?"
gooden:  "anything is better than Lawrence"

he had to call roy williams and apologize afterwards.

[verticalhog]

Most beautiful campus in the U.S. - Pepperdine University in Malibu, California.  I love the campus in Fayetteville and having my name on the sidewalks twice but there are other beautiful campuses, especially those in the mountains such as Virginia Tech, Western Carolina, etc.  It's just fun when you get a chance to tour a beautiful college campus.

[Keyser Sooieze]

Well, would have to agree about KU fans in general, though I do think Bill Self is a good
person and I'm happy for him.  Saying that, there is nothing good I could have said about
Memphis or their coach if they had won.

As for the great campus debate, of the the three - KU,MO,& AR I would give the edge to AR
on its location only.  The Hills give it the edge in my book, otherwise nothing remarkable about
the three compared to older schools east of here and Stanford out west.  USC is nice as well. 

USC--are you referring to Southern Cal or Southern Carolina?  I'd say the South Carolina campus is prettier than USC. IMO, Southern Cal is trashy and run down and in a horrible part of the city.  If you want beauty on a campus in Southern California go to UCLA or UCSB or UCSD.  USC is a great school with a gross campus. 

[cosmodrum]

It's easy to become arrogant when your team is in the top 10 every year, and said team plays on James Naismith Court.

That being said, this is the first NC in 20 years, so that's many years of being in the top 5-10 WITHOUT winning a title.

Either way, KU is one of the most consistently good bball programs in the nation. They are good EVERY year.

[HognotinMemphis]

Ironically I've been to all the aforementioned Campuses.. I think I prefer the UA campus lol.

It's coincidental...not  ironic.

[Keyser Sooieze]

Does the Rock Chalk Jayhawk chant scare anyone?  That's some weird stuff.

Sounds like a monastery or something

[cityhog]

Most beautiful campus in the U.S. - Pepperdine University in Malibu, California.  I love the campus in Fayetteville and having my name on the sidewalks twice but there are other beautiful campuses, especially those in the mountains such as Virginia Tech, Western Carolina, etc.  It's just fun when you get a chance to tour a beautiful college campus.

Agreed.  Colorado is a close second.

[cosmodrum]

Most beautiful campus in the U.S. - Pepperdine University in Malibu, California.  I love the campus in Fayetteville and having my name on the sidewalks twice but there are other beautiful campuses, especially those in the mountains such as Virginia Tech, Western Carolina, etc.  It's just fun when you get a chance to tour a beautiful college campus.

For sure on Pepperdine. How could you go wrong Malibu?

[big boes]

don't confuse the setting with the campus. the best two campuses are georgetown and columbia. the best sec campus is alabama.

[RazorBassin]

Georgetown is a good one to see.  I look forward to making visits to many college campuses through the next few years!

[Hogginitall]

Georgetown is cool.  I like Duke, also.  Their campus (including the buildings) is very pretty.

[Jimmy]

Wow!  Mizzou must have really done a number on its campus.  Not been there but I've driven between KC and St. Louis several times, and it's plain vanilla midwest. 

[theknighton]

Should check out Texas State University in San Marcos.... Now thats one campus that is easy on the eyes.

[razorshark]

Wow!  Mizzou must have really done a number on its campus.  Not been there but I've driven between KC and St. Louis several times, and it's plain vanilla midwest. 

I was up there last year and the smokestack was impressive!

[phead903]

I think the comment about conference allegience is telling.  This is a purley SEC thing, IMO.  I can't imagine an Arkansas fan pulling for a Texas team back when Arkansas was in the SWC just because they were in the same conference.  I can't envision a scenario where Michigan fans were pulling for Ohio State to win the NC in football or for USC fans wanting UCLA to win the NC in basketball.

[Hawgon]

For me, Virginia with all of the history and buildings designed by Thomas Jefferson is the prettiest campus I have visited.  Nothing spectacular, just what a college should be as far as looks go.

[Hogginitall]

Should check out Texas State University in San Marcos.... Now thats one campus that is easy on the eyes.

Been there.  It's nice.

[Sao Ming]

Wow!  Mizzou must have really done a number on its campus.  Not been there but I've driven between KC and St. Louis several times, and it's plain vanilla midwest. 

I preferred Stephens College to Mizzou.

[hogfan064]

For me, Virginia with all of the history and buildings designed by Thomas Jefferson is the prettiest campus I have visited.  Nothing spectacular, just what a college should be as far as looks go.

I mentioned this one above.  Nothing beats it.  Can't go wrong with the setting either with the Appalachian Mountains in the background. 

Really all the "traditional" ACC schools have nice campuses.  Clemson's is very nice, but with all the hills a very physical walk.

[DrSwineESQ]

KU does have a pretty campus, and so does Mizzou.  I've been to both dozens of times--I give the edge to KU between the two of them, though I think Columbia is a better town than Lawrence.  That being said, I chose to work at the UofA and live in Fayetteville--I think they're superior all the way around.  As far as fans go, KU fans are more over the top than Mizzou's, but I have a sneaking suspicion that's because KU actually won a few championships in Basketball.  Poor ole Mizzou fans have only one National Championship in the school's entire history, baseball I think.  Anyway, give Mizzou fans a championship in Basketball or Football and you'd probably find them worse than Jayhawks...I mean no disrespect, but Mizzou fans brag about inventing homecoming and having Big MO, the largest drum in the world.    You know I'm right.

[DeltaBoy]

I have been at UA, UALR,,UAPB, ASU, UABP, Southern Miss, Ole Miss, MSU, TCU, Baylor, UTerous and FSU. 

I rank UA the best and FSU a close second.

[hogfan064]

Another great campus is The Citadel's.  Lots of history and located in a great city.

[josh_sec33]

Arkansas is very much the best campus in the state of arkansas. KU's campus my one thought is how spread out everything was. I had some friends and we drove around the campus at 11 pm and we drove a good 5-10 minutes to get to one side to the other of campus. Bama and Auburn didn't do anything for me, Ole Miss was only impressive in that every frickin frat house looked like a plantation house, and Delaware is a dump. I mean. a numbered State highway running RIGHT THROUGH THE CENTER OF THE CAMPUS? sheesh.

I do like Husky Stadium at Univ. of Washington. Nothing like seeing Puget Sound over the football field.

[DrSwineESQ]

Didn't know that about Deleware.  Texas Tech has the ugliest campus I've ever seen.

[noprayerfornutt]

I like the West Point campus.

[igotdatwood]

Starkville is Gorgeous this time of year. 

nice campus, but starkville itself sucks.

[HogFanInBigD]

stanford has the best ive seen. also, lsu has a beautiful campus. lsu's is almost like a poor man's stanford. both are great.

[Porquemada]

Lew Perkins, KU AD, is unethical and I won't even go into how they got the Orange Bowl bid.  In fact, the last couple of AD's at KU were unethical.  They got slammed by the NCAA for both football and basketball violations a couple of years ago and this is a direct quote from the AD.  "Compliance doesn't sell tickets."

Sour grapes?

[HOGINTENNESSEE]

Does the Rock Chalk Jayhawk chant scare anyone?  That's some weird stuff.

I think WPS scares alot of other fans.

[PigglyWiggly]

Feelings aside about any of these...

ND has one pretty amazing campus
USC-west wasn't impressive at all
KU was absolutely nothing special
KSU is actually a very nice campus
LSU was just ok
OSU wasn't anything special
Air Force had a pretty awesome campus, at least what I remember of it
Auburn was ok. Sanford Hall is pretty, the rest of the campus is kind of blah.
Miss State...haha, well it's Starkville.

As a current student at mizzou, I really don't think mizzou's campus is all that special.  #1 rec center in the nation (and that's for dang sure! that thing is nice), but other than that, they have 2 pretty buildings and that's about it.

As a UA alum, I absolutely love the setting of the school.  Some of those days up by the bus stop, there is one amazing view of the bostons.  I do wish they had tried to "unite" the theme of the buildings more to the style of Old Main, especially that block of concrete called Bell Engineering.  That thing is uglier than a dog turd.

[flagstaffhog]

Most beautiful campus in the U.S. - Pepperdine University in Malibu, California.  I love the campus in Fayetteville and having my name on the sidewalks twice but there are other beautiful campuses, especially those in the mountains such as Virginia Tech, Western Carolina, etc.  It's just fun when you get a chance to tour a beautiful college campus.

I would second the statement about Pepperdine. Stunning campus.

[josh_sec33]

Air Force's campus is stunningly beautiful. The chapel there is unreal.

[mizzouman]

Sour grapes?

Just stating facts, that's all.

[mizzouman]

Feelings aside about any of these...

ND has one pretty amazing campus
USC-west wasn't impressive at all
KU was absolutely nothing special
KSU is actually a very nice campus
LSU was just ok
OSU wasn't anything special
Air Force had a pretty awesome campus, at least what I remember of it
Auburn was ok. Sanford Hall is pretty, the rest of the campus is kind of blah.
Miss State...haha, well it's Starkville.

As a current student at mizzou, I really don't think mizzou's campus is all that special.  #1 rec center in the nation (and that's for dang sure! that thing is nice), but other than that, they have 2 pretty buildings and that's about it.

As a UA alum, I absolutely love the setting of the school.  Some of those days up by the bus stop, there is one amazing view of the bostons.  I do wish they had tried to "unite" the theme of the buildings more to the style of Old Main, especially that block of concrete called Bell Engineering.  That thing is uglier than a dog turd.

KSU for real??  KSU is considered one of the ugliest campuses in the Big 12 along with Tech, Iowa Stat and Okie St. 

[big boes]

As a UA alum, I absolutely love the setting of the school.  Some of those days up by the bus stop, there is one amazing view of the bostons.  I do wish they had tried to "unite" the theme of the buildings more to the style of Old Main, especially that block of concrete called Bell Engineering.  That thing is uglier than a dog turd.

my feelings exactly. "architectural integrity" across building would make all the difference and give arkansas' a more aesthetic and timeless campus. old main and the buldings on the north east side of campus are wonderful, but walking from there toward the stadium the buildings just get more mismatched. hunt hall, the music  building, kjimple, the union (even post-facelift), etc. are out of place and drag the overall campus grade down. it seems that the campus is getting uglier as it ages because the new buildings don't have to resemble the old ones.

[AckaBacka]

Boulder Colorado campus beats ours but not by too much.

[IronHog]

I've been to a lot of campuses around the country and there's not way to pick the best because each campus has it's own identity.  For the ones I've been to, the most beautiful campus is Stanford, the best surroundings is Colorado.  I have been to both Fayetteville and Lawrence and I would have to give the edge to KU but both fail in comparison to Mizzou  :-)

Seriously, Mizzou has a very nice campus but not the best I've been to. 

The mid-west is full of big boned women and therefore big boned co-eds.


You lose by default.

[bobbybouchet]

Come on guys...step back from the Kool Aid.  Every fan thinks their campus is the best for whatever reason.  We have a pretty good campus, but we are lacking some things.  Namely, a great place for tailgating.  Most people judge a campus on a football game day.  I sure did at Ole Miss...I have to admit it was pretty cool but, the stadium sucked.  We have an above average stadium, but nothing that stands out more than most.  Baseball stadium is above average...Basketball stadium is average to above average depending on where you are from.  Track stadium is pretty damn good for track.  But, I have been to several campuses in the SEC and don't think we are above and beyond most.  I think Knoxville, Florida, and LSU are about the same.  Vandy and Miss St are lacking and the rest are in the middle.