Hear me out

[Sho Nuff]

Last night's debacle may prove to be a good thing for us in the long run.

I have been concerned that Bielema has been too comfortable.  In his press conference he referenced things that he should have corrected before.  There is no way in Hades that he will be let go this year.  However, if we have another bad year next year I do believe he will be toast, and I think he knows that as well.  We are about to find out if he has it in him to win or not.  If not, we will be starting over with a new coach.  Had we won last night's game, there would be no pressure on him going into this season.

I realize that I am grasping at straws here, just looking for a silver lining.

[Vandyhog4]

I get what you are saying, and I think the point is well taken.  The honeymoon is over, and Bielema will have to coach and recruit like his job is on the line.  The only problem is that, if he has to use his lack of job security as a motivating factor to do better or prevent similar failures, then he's already a lost cause.  He should have been coaching like his seat was on fire from day 1, not just in year 5.     

[Mo_Better_Hogs]

We'll see if any positives come from this. But I know one thing—next season, if we pick up right where this one ended, it will be the worst season I've ever seen in Razorback football.

Where we are right now isn't a place where you just 'tweak' a few little things. The changes need to be big. So the question is—is Bielema and this staff capable of doing that?

[LRHawg]

 

[Redhogs]

Last night's debacle may prove to be a good thing for us in the long run.

I have been concerned that Bielema has been too comfortable.  In his press conference he referenced things that he should have corrected before.  There is no way in Hades that he will be let go this year.  However, if we have another bad year next year I do believe he will be toast, and I think he knows that as well.  We are about to find out if he has it in him to win or not.  If not, we will be starting over with a new coach.  Had we won last night's game, there would be no pressure on him going into this season.

I realize that I am grasping at straws here, just looking for a silver lining.

You can't be serious, if it takes this to wake any coach up he should be looking for another profession. What world do people like you live in.

[depressed_fan]

Two things I will correct. This was not a "bad year" in the eyes of the administration. This was a good year if the last home game of the season was selling out.

Number 2, he won't be fired after next year either which will look similar to this year.

[PorkRinds]

Here is what I've noticed.  When CBB suspends or takes playing time away from a player for off the field offenses and not being disciplined, the same folks who are now bashing him for having an undisciplined program come here and say he's holding the team back by holding them to standards that are too high.  So which is it?  When he holds them accountable?  Too harsh.  When they screw up and he says he's been to soft?  Too soft.  So which is it?

[Joe-T]

Here is what I've noticed.  When CBB suspends or takes playing time away from a player for off the field offenses and not being disciplined, the same folks who are now bashing him for having an undisciplined program come here and say he's holding the team back by holding them to standards that are too high.  So which is it?  When he holds them accountable?  Too harsh.  When they screw up and he says he's been to soft?  Too soft.  So which is it?

Examples???

[Hoggish1]

Last night's debacle may prove to be a good thing for us in the long run.

I have been concerned that Bielema has been too comfortable.  In his press conference he referenced things that he should have corrected before.  There is no way in Hades that he will be let go this year.  However, if we have another bad year next year I do believe he will be toast, and I think he knows that as well.  We are about to find out if he has it in him to win or not.  If not, we will be starting over with a new coach.  Had we won last night's game, there would be no pressure on him going into this season.

I realize that I am grasping at straws here, just looking for a silver lining.

If you are right, expect to see some coaching changes.

A HC, when he knows he needs to make a change, will do so when the heat is on.  But, sometimes a HC just hesitates to pull the trigger thinking he can "fix" the problem from within.  There is nothing like pressure to focus the mind and toughen the resolve. 

These are the straws I'm grasping at, too...

[PorkRinds]

Examples???

http://www.hogville.net/yabbse/index.php?board=1.0

[longtimeHogfan]

10 'W's next year.  Nothing else is acceptable.

[lumphog]

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[Dirty]

10 'W's next year.  Nothing else is acceptable.

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[12247]

Its my opinion that BB knows who he answers to and its not us.  He knows just how much crap Long will take and he knows he can reach just above that line and all is well.  BB will coach himself back into the folds of Long if, in any way, he has non-coached himself out of the Glow of Long.  It won't take much, .500 ball, not too many players snafus, graduate above average on the football team, that will keep him employed.  Now if BB has the nads to actually bow up and coach his ass off, he'll get more gifts than Santa is supposed to carry on his sleigh.  Long reaching contracts with huge amounts of money and buyouts Trump couldn't afford.  If BB should reach and sustain winning 2 out of 3 most of the time, he can write his own contract, likely lifetime agreement.   Long has no clue who he would replace BB with and he doesn't have any real coaches looking to come here.  In 20 or so years, maybe Long will have the experience to actually operate the AD job like it is supposed  to operate.  Way too late for me.

[HoginIllinois]

I remember an interview Bielema did not too long after he got here. He said basically that in his third year at Wisconsin he got a little too comfortable (or something along that line) and Alvarez and others (boosters maybe) had a come to Jesus meeting with him. Looks to me like it needs to happened again.

[Hollywood870]

Last night's debacle may prove to be a good thing for us in the long run.

I have been concerned that Bielema has been too comfortable.  In his press conference he referenced things that he should have corrected before.  There is no way in Hades that he will be let go this year.  However, if we have another bad year next year I do believe he will be toast, and I think he knows that as well.  We are about to find out if he has it in him to win or not.  If not, we will be starting over with a new coach.  Had we won last night's game, there would be no pressure on him going into this season.

I realize that I am grasping at straws here, just looking for a silver lining.

He is for sure looking "comfortable." I'm all for someone being happy. Beautiful wife, baby on the way. Just not at the expense of our football team being an embarrassment. We'll just have to see what happens but it does appear that Bret has been living High on the Hog.

[LJHOG]

So which is it?

If they ain't in the county jail, they playin'.

[Inhogswetrust]

I remember an interview Bielema did not too long after he got here. He said basically that in his third year at Wisconsin he got a little too comfortable (or something along that line) and Alvarez and others (boosters maybe) had a come to Jesus meeting with him. Looks to me like it needs to happened again.

Good recall. Now that you mention it I remember something like that being said.

[lakecityhog]

Why would we want a coach that needs the AD to have a come to Jesus meeting with him to force him to do his job? Really?

Ya think that attitude might trickle down through the assistant coaches all the way to the team managers???

[Wildhog]

Can't afford to fire him until '19 or '20, and Long should be taken to task for that.

Maybe we get lucky and Bert leaves in an attempt to beat the pitchforks.  Doubt it, though.  Just keep losing all the way to the bank.

[SquidBilly]

He became a rock star to most after the win over Texas.  He then took us to a Liberty bowl win and we as fans showered more praise on him and the team.  The goal is a SEC championship but we settled for back to back lower tier bowl wins and called it good progress.

[TulsaJack32]

Here is what I've noticed.  When CBB suspends or takes playing time away from a player for off the field offenses and not being disciplined, the same folks who are now bashing him for having an undisciplined program come here and say he's holding the team back by holding them to standards that are too high.  So which is it?  When he holds them accountable?  Too harsh.  When they screw up and he says he's been to soft?  Too soft.  So which is it?

I don't know about this board, but just like everyone on here, I have a lot of family and friends who are Razorback fans, and I have never heard anyone criticize a coach for suspending players for disciplinary reasons.  I find it hard to believe most people on here would question Bielema for this.  I haven't seen anyone take that stand with Sprinkle.

[Bubba's Bruisers]

Can't afford to fire him until '19 or '20, and Long should be taken to task for that.

Maybe we get lucky and Bert leaves in an attempt to beat the pitchforks.  Doubt it, though.  Just keep losing all the way to the bank.

I could be wrong, but I was thinking the pitchforks were starting to come out in Wisconsin his last season or two.  I've always assumed that was just as much reason for him leaving as it was Alvarez.

[PorkRinds]

He became a rock star to most after the win over Texas.  He then took us to a Liberty bowl win and we as fans showered more praise on him and the team.  The goal is a SEC championship but we settled for back to back lower tier bowl wins and called it good progress.

it was good progress.  We didn't digress until this season.

[Sho Nuff]

You can't be serious, if it takes this to wake any coach up he should be looking for another profession. What world do people like you live in.

The real world, you should visit sometime.

[Calling All Hogs]

Listening to CBB after the game it appears he is clueless as to why the team consistently falls apart in the second half. That does not give me a great deal of hope for next year or ever.

[lefty08]

The idea that BB doesn't care about winning because of the money is dumbfounding. The dude was rich when he came here

[lefty08]

Listening to CBB after the game it appears he is clueless as to why the team consistently falls apart in the second half. That does not give me a great deal of hope for next year or ever.

You would rather him know exactly why it is happening and continuing to allow it to happen? Makes sense