Still shaking my head this morning.....

[007 License To Squeal]

How does a team play so well in the first half, then just totally and completely collapse at halftime?

C...O..A...C...H.....I...N...G  !!!!!

Period......

[lefty08]

Good level headed post after sleeping one off

[Lanny]

How does a team play so well in the first half, then just totally and completely collapse at halftime?

C...O..A...C...H.....I...N...G  !!!!!

Period......

How does a AD give a horrible coach a huge buyout?

[Shrevepork]

We're the talk of the sports world this morning. Dang it.
Where did the fight go? What happened in the locker room at half time that took the wind from the sails?  Were they physically spent?
The offensive line quit-Allen's performance tanked-it snowballed into bedlam on our side of the ball and party time on the other side.
This team needs some serious psychoanalysis.
That said. A big WPS for 2017. It's got to be better than this.

[Piggfoot]

They got sleepy after eating those peanut and jelly sandwiches.

[CrookedSquealliry]

Did anyone else hear those turds chanting SEC SEC SEC SEC? 
They didn't beat us, we were in our own circular firing squad.   

[b-ball coach]

I can handle a tough loss, and I can handle the disappointment of being a life-long razorback fan. What I don't like are the excuses, cockiness for no reason, and statements like Coach B made at half to Jerry Punch last night, "We will play a 4 quarter game I guarantee it." To me it's the same as "came her to to win the SEC."

Empty promises with no accountability and a brashness that's inexcusable. Running your mouth publicly with no one holding you accountable and not owning up when you clearly cannot backup your statements- that's what I'm fed up with as a Razorback fan. We didn't play 4 quarters, he didn't own up and won't. If you lead an organization, team, or business and you continually run your mouth without results, you lose the respect of those in the organization and those outside who support you. If our head coach wanted to take the high road and be humble, our kids would would too. The clear lack of discipline starts at the mouth of our head coach and runs down to our players.

We will recover and support the team as true Razorback fans do; but supporting the coach will be a challenge.

[nchogg]

I can also handle a tough loss. But I saw things change toward the end of the 2nd quarter. Then it got continually worse from beginning of the 3rd quarter to the end of the game. I don't know what was being said on the field but both offense and defense seemed intimidated. We lost our composure.

[Calling All Hogs]

How does a AD give a horrible coach a huge buyout?

Because he is a horrible AD.

[Tortfeasor]

Did anyone else hear those turds chanting SEC SEC SEC SEC? 
They didn't beat us, we were in our own circular firing squad.   

They were chanting ACC, not SEC.

[fullfan]

How does a AD give a horrible coach a huge buyout?

Similar to the postings here...it's called over-reaction.

[007 License To Squeal]

Similar to the postings here...it's called over-reaction.

or maybe some of us are not part of the low expectation culture that seems to have an excuse for every Long and BB failure.

[The_Iceman]

Something has gone wrong with Dan Enos, but no one has been blaming him for anything.

[007 License To Squeal]

Something has gone wrong with Dan Enos, but no one has been blaming him for anything.

You are correct, Sir.......both sides of the ball collapsed..

[CrookedSquealliry]

They were chanting ACC, not SEC.

My bad.  Thought they were rubbing it in.  Deservedly. 

[BassinHawg]

Something has gone wrong with Dan Enos, but no one has been blaming him for anything.

He has been wrong since he tried to run it up the middle three times on the goal line against A&M!

He is not without blame. Teams learned how to make half time adjustments against his anemic scheme.

[island hog]

It's extremely difficult to overcome the turnovers ... This team goes as our QB play goes. Period. I really like AA but he's got to improve his decision making.

[Inhogswetrust]

How does a AD give a horrible coach a huge buyout?

A huge buyout shouldn't be given period. Buyouts should not last past their regular contract length and amount. IF coach is paid $3 million a year and has three years on his contract the buyout should be the same for that year and time length and each year different based on the number of years left.

[SpaCityHawg]

My bad.  Thought they were rubbing it in.  Deservedly.

They were.

[gchamblee]

or maybe some of us are not part of the low expectation culture that seems to have an excuse for every Long and BB failure.

no, but you are part of the culture that blames everything on 2 men you hate regardless of whether its a them problem or a something else problem. this morning confirms it, im taking a break from hogville. you guys have gone full retard. im sure ill be missed. one less poster for you doom and gloomers to tussle with in your crusade to fire everyone and hire gruden. have fun with it. you have lanny on your side now so banning the rational people should be fun.

[Redhogs]

A huge buyout shouldn't be given period. Buyouts should not last past their regular contract length and amount. IF coach is paid $3 million a year and has three years on his contract the buyout should be the same for that year and time length and each year different based on the number of years left.

Something needs to change, at least here, we a now being held hostage by this clueless windbag. Anyone who heard his comments after the game should be deeply troubled by the direction and the future of the program with him as the leader.

[BrianG]

Fat Bert does it again.  Pigs got better results with car salesman Houston Nutt.

[007 License To Squeal]

no, but you are part of the culture that blames everything on 2 men you hate regardless of whether its a them problem or a something else problem. this morning confirms it, im taking a break from hogville. you guys have gone full retard. im sure ill be missed. one less poster for you doom and gloomers to tussle with in your crusade to fire everyone and hire gruden. have fun with it. you have lanny on your side now so banning the rational people should be fun.

1.  The Razorback program is bigger than any AD or Coach.
2.  I won't miss you.....YOU are the basher....YOU are the smug "holier than Thou" type......

[arslp]

no, but you are part of the culture that blames everything on 2 men you hate regardless of whether its a them problem or a something else problem. this morning confirms it, im taking a break from hogville. you guys have gone full retard. im sure ill be missed. one less poster for you doom and gloomers to tussle with in your crusade to fire everyone and hire gruden. have fun with it. you have lanny on your side now so banning the rational people should be fun.

You're not rational; you're a know-it-all smart ass.  Don't let the door hit you where the Good Lord split ya.....  The first time you ever said anything to me it was hateful - because I didn't like the defense...  then you said I was using the fact I was a female.  Let me tell you one thing, sunshine; your gender doesn't factor one bit into your arrogant make-up.  You'd be an ass with any genitalia.

[seasonhog]

How does a AD give a horrible coach a huge buyout?

Maybe getting a kickback.........remember....  Smith / Long

[sickboy]

How does a AD give a horrible coach a huge buyout?

To be fair... hiring isn't a science. Bielema was the head coach at another solid Power 5 program, coming off three Rose Bowl appearances. I'm sure at the time we were looking at a long list of coordinators who were "up and coming" and then all of a sudden Bielema's agent reaches out and says, "Hey, I got a coach with three consecutive Rose Bowl appearances and 3 Big 10 titles who wants to coach at your school." Not to mention, Bielema's name was constantly in the jumping to the NFL conversations at the time... it makes sense why you wouldn't commit to a guy with that resume unless we had an assurance he was going to stick around to rebuild the program.

I've hired people who on paper who were sure fire bets... and they've fizzled out faster than a Tijuana mule. And I've taken chances on people who seemed to have "it" and they've fizzled out faster than a Tijuana mule.

Hiring just isn't a science or we'd just go find the guy who can take 3* recruits and turn those guys into 5* guys competing for championships. 

[seasonhog]

Something needs to change, at least here, we a now being held hostage by this clueless windbag. Anyone who heard his comments after the game should be deeply troubled by the direction and the future of the program with him as the leader.

Long is the first to be replaced.......the #1 problem.

[k.c.hawg]

A huge buyout shouldn't be given period. Buyouts should not last past their regular contract length and amount. IF coach is paid $3 million a year and has three years on his contract the buyout should be the same for that year and time length and each year different based on the number of years left.

His buyout has never been larger than the yearly compensation x years left on his contract. And for anyone referring to it as a huge buyout it is standard for the industry, except for a coach moving up from a lower level and getting his first shot at a P5 job.

[seasonhog]

To be fair... hiring isn't a science. Bielema was the head coach at another solid Power 5 program, coming off three Rose Bowl appearances. I'm sure at the time we were looking at a long list of coordinators who were "up and coming" and then all of a sudden Bielema's agent reaches out and says, "Hey, I got a coach with three consecutive Rose Bowl appearances and 3 Big 10 titles who wants to coach at your school." Not to mention, Bielema's name was constantly in the jumping to the NFL conversations at the time... it makes sense why you wouldn't commit to a guy with that resume unless we had an assurance he was going to stick around to rebuild the program.

I've hired people who on paper who were sure fire bets... and they've fizzled out faster than a Tijuana mule. And I've taken chances on people who seemed to have "it" and they've fizzled out faster than a Tijuana mule.

Hiring just isn't a science or we'd just go find the guy who can take 3* recruits and turn those guys into 5* guys competing for championships.

Our Tijuana mule is loaded down with our money........4 million + is heavy.....

[sickboy]

His buyout has never been larger than the yearly compensation x years left on his contract. And for anyone referring to it as a huge buyout it is standard for the industry, except for a coach moving up from a lower level and getting his first shot at a P5 job.

There's no point. Most people don't even know what his buyout clause says, let alone how a buyout works and what's tenable by the University in these situations. People are angry so they're latching onto to buzzword topics to help fuel their anger. Which is completely natural. But the majority don't even know what the buyout situation is -- they just know other people are pissed off about it, so they must be pissed off about it too.

[sickboy]

Our Tijuana mule is loaded down with our money........4 million + is heavy.....

Not that heavy.

[rude1]

His buyout has never been larger than the yearly compensation x years left on his contract. And for anyone referring to it as a huge buyout it is standard for the industry, except for a coach moving up from a lower level and getting his first shot at a P5 job.

This simply isn't true, you don't up the buyout on your own end after a 7-6 season, that's the dumbest thing any AD could possibly do, especially when you figure in that he got no commitment from Bret with an equal buyout.  The contract thrown at Bret is what you see a program do after the coach has had an outstanding season or a couple of good seasons, not a frigging 7-6 season!!!!!

[Redhogs]

You're not rational; you're a know-it-all smart ass.  Don't let the door hit you where the Good Lord split ya.....  The first time you ever said anything to me it was hateful - because I didn't like the defense...  then you said I was using the fact I was a female.  Let me tell you one thing, sunshine; your gender doesn't factor one bit into your arrogant make-up.  You'd be an ass with any genitalia.

Flat out awesome. Yes he's the most arrogant poster on Hogville...2 thumbs up to you.

[007 License To Squeal]

You're not rational; you're a know-it-all smart ass.  Don't let the door hit you where the Good Lord split ya.....  The first time you ever said anything to me it was hateful - because I didn't like the defense...  then you said I was using the fact I was a female.  Let me tell you one thing, sunshine; your gender doesn't factor one bit into your arrogant make-up.  You'd be an ass with any genitalia.

+1000

[PonderinHog]

They were chanting ACC, not SEC.

lol  Now back to thread!

[Wildhog]

no, but you are part of the culture that blames everything on 2 men you hate regardless of whether its a them problem or a something else problem. this morning confirms it, im taking a break from hogville. you guys have gone full retard. im sure ill be missed. one less poster for you doom and gloomers to tussle with in your crusade to fire everyone and hire gruden. have fun with it. you have lanny on your side now so banning the rational people should be fun.

At least there's a silver lining.

[EastexHawg]

Because he is a horrible AD.

But...but...he was on a committee!

You're right.  I'm glad people are starting to realize what a loser we have running things.  Worst combination of football and basketball since Broyles arrived almost 60 years ago.

[Michael_E_Davis]

Something needs to change, at least here, we a now being held hostage by this clueless windbag. Anyone who heard his comments after the game should be deeply troubled by the direction and the future of the program with him as the leader.

"Anyone who heard his comments after the game should be deeply troubled by the direction and the future of the program with him as the leader."   What are you talking about?  He said he was embarrassed,  he had never seen a collapse like that. He apologized to the fans, and took 100% full responsibility. He talked about recruiting,  and the 4th quarter problems would be hit hard in the off season. What did he say that concerned you?

[Wildhog]

4th quarter problems have been a recurring theme during Bert's tenure.  Forgive me if I don't take him seriously when he says it will be addressed. I won't even get into recruiting.

[PonderinHog]

4th quarter problems have been a recurring theme during Bert's tenure.  Forgive me if I don't take him seriously when he says it will be addressed. I won't even get into recruiting.

It will be addressed.  He's going to write another letter.  Stay tuned...

[lasthog]

To be fair... hiring isn't a science. Bielema was the head coach at another solid Power 5 program, coming off three Rose Bowl appearances. I'm sure at the time we were looking at a long list of coordinators who were "up and coming" and then all of a sudden Bielema's agent reaches out and says, "Hey, I got a coach with three consecutive Rose Bowl appearances and 3 Big 10 titles who wants to coach at your school." Not to mention, Bielema's name was constantly in the jumping to the NFL conversations at the time... it makes sense why you wouldn't commit to a guy with that resume unless we had an assurance he was going to stick around to rebuild the program.

I've hired people who on paper who were sure fire bets... and they've fizzled out faster than a Tijuana mule. And I've taken chances on people who seemed to have "it" and they've fizzled out faster than a Tijuana mule.

Hiring just isn't a science or we'd just go find the guy who can take 3* recruits and turn those guys into 5* guys competing for championships.

Thanks for a post from the real world.

[EastexHawg]

no, but you are part of the culture that blames everything on 2 men you hate regardless of whether its a them problem or a something else problem. this morning confirms it, im taking a break from hogville. you guys have gone full retard. im sure ill be missed. one less poster for you doom and gloomers to tussle with in your crusade to fire everyone and hire gruden. have fun with it. you have lanny on your side now so banning the rational people should be fun.

Boo hoo hoo.  You have attacked people for years from your high horse.  Now people are starting to realize those you attacked were right so you're sticking out your lip, packing your toys, and going home.  A simple, "Okay, I admit you guys were right all along" would suffice.

[Wildhog]

Boo hoo hoo.  You have attacked people for years from your high horse.  Now people are starting to realize those you attacked were right so you're sticking out your lip, packing your toys, and going home.  A simple, "Okay, I admit you guys were right all along" would suffice.

[007 License To Squeal]

Boo hoo hoo.  You have attacked people for years from your high horse.  Now people are starting to realize those you attacked were right so you're sticking out your lip, packing your toys, and going home.  A simple, "Okay, I admit you guys were right all along" would suffice.

+1000

[DeltaBoy]

Fire them both.

[Jim Harris]

This simply isn't true, you don't up the buyout on your own end after a 7-6 season, that's the dumbest thing any AD could possibly do, especially when you figure in that he got no commitment from Bret with an equal buyout.  The contract thrown at Bret is what you see a program do after the coach has had an outstanding season or a couple of good seasons, not a frigging 7-6 season!!!!!

Yeah, but that 7-6 season was more promising than this 7-6 season.

[k.c.hawg]

This simply isn't true, you don't up the buyout on your own end after a 7-6 season, that's the dumbest thing any AD could possibly do, especially when you figure in that he got no commitment from Bret with an equal buyout.  The contract thrown at Bret is what you see a program do after the coach has had an outstanding season or a couple of good seasons, not a frigging 7-6 season!!!!!

It simply is true and is a matter of public record. Any dumbass could look it up. You might not like the fact he got a "contract extension" but the terms of his buyout did not change. Simple math......if he is fired for the university's convenience (Without Cause) he will be paid the amount of his yearly compensation for the number of years left on his contract. So very simply, yearly compensation X years left on contract = buyout. As stated previously.

[porkrindjimmy]

Something has gone wrong with Dan Enos, but no one has been blaming him for anything.

Dan Enos has been handcuffed.

PRJ

[PonderinHog]

Dan Enos has been handcuffed.

PRJ

More like hobbled by our OL problems.

[Sivad]

It's extremely difficult to overcome the turnovers ... This team goes as our QB play goes. Period. I really like AA but he's got to improve his decision making.

He's hot and cold. His giveaways killed us last night. Wonder if he'll start in 2017?