hearing coaches being let go today

[Hogustus Caesar]

anybody know anything more?

[SquidBilly]

Good!  Gives them time to get their next gig lined up and allows the new HC a clean slate. 

[cmiller01]

And here come the pleas to keep Horton & Allen...

personally, I want a clean slate.

[Broadway Rob]

And here come the pleas to keep Horton & Allen...

personally, I want a clean slate.

Why not Horton?  I have no opinion either way, I'm just wondering.

[stan the man]

You can bet Allen will be retained unless he no longer wants to coach

[LuckyGiraffe]

Letting all of the coaches doesn't really make sense unless you already know who your coach and all of their assistants will be.  I can't remember any situations where the AD has let everyone go.  If that happens, I have to believe that the new HC has had input on that decision.

[Lake City Hog]

If this happens Long had better announce a new staff by tomorrow, personally I'm calling BS on this. Long knows that without a staff recruiting would be lost. Other teams would start picking off recruits in a matter of days.

Some of you people are really too stupid to believe!

[Hogustus Caesar]

Letting all of the coaches doesn't really make sense unless you already know who your coach and all of their assistants will be.  I can't remember any situations where the AD has let everyone go.  If that happens, I have to believe that the new HC has had input on that decision.

I agree. While this is only a rumor, it makes me think there might be something to a Saturday press conference. Also makes me think the new coach is an NFL guy. Just speculation on my part. Looking to see if there is any concrete story to this.

[Calling All Hogs]

Letting all of the coaches doesn't really make sense unless you already know who your coach and all of their assistants will be.  I can't remember any situations where the AD has let everyone go.  If that happens, I have to believe that the new HC has had input on that decision.

I would think we would keep some assistants just to maintain contact with recruits until the new staff is in place.

[Faithful Hog]

If ONLY John L. is let go today, then I'm not optimistic a new coach is a done deal.  If they let go several of the coaches, wouldn't that mean the new Coach has already been approving the new staff?

Multiple terminations would lead me to believe Jeff DOES have his man, as certain posters have claimed, and not just a options 1, 2, and 3.  Frankly, I don't remember how it usually goes with the assistants.  Do they normally weed through them before or after the new coach is hired?

From the HR perspective, I would think the new coach would prefer that certain changes were handled before he stepped foot on campus.

[WilsonHog]

If this happens Long had better announce a new staff by tomorrow, personally I'm calling BS on this. Long knows that without a staff recruiting would be lost. Other teams would start picking off recruits in a matter of days.

Some of you people are really too stupid to believe!

It's happening right now. I suspect Tim Horton and Bobby Allen will stay on to bridge recruiting until the new coach is hired, and then there will be a place for them either on staff or in administration.

[texas tush hog]

Why not Horton?  I have no opinion either way, I'm just wondering.

The GOBN is alive and well if Harold's little boy is kept.

[Faithful Hog]

Letting all of the coaches doesn't really make sense unless you already know who your coach and all of their assistants will be.  I can't remember any situations where the AD has let everyone go.  If that happens, I have to believe that the new HC has had input on that decision.

This^

[DSmithNPS]

GOBN? sorry, what does that mean?

[xterrahogfan]

You can bet Allen will be retained unless he no longer wants to coach

With this staffs inability to evaluate talent, it makes you wonder how good his sons really are anyway. I say put an end to the good old boy system and any connection to the old coaches. Let em all go and start fresh.

[LuckyGiraffe]

Good Old Boy Network

[RedRock]

Keeping assistants should be the new head coach's decision.  It does, however, make sense to retain Horton because of the recruiting relationships.

[MDH]

Keeping assistants should be the new head coach's decision.  It does, however, make sense to retain Horton because of the recruiting relationships.

^ this.  Horton will be retained.  I'd put money on it.

[redandgray]

I don't see that happening. Unless he has a coach and they already know who they want to retain (if anyone)...otherwise, you won't get rid of anyone until the new coach is officially hired. JLS contract goes to February I think..he can be reassigned though until then...which I fully expect.

So ready to hear something though!!!

[Hawk]

Somebody (ies) have to be in place to stay in contact with recruits and maintain the current players until the new staff is in place. The new coach will have the perogative of bringing in his staff, and/or keeping any of the old.

[OTTER]

^ this.  Horton will be retained.  I'd put money on it.

He held things together before, and it would be an asset for us if he stayed.

[Break & Run]

LMAO.  Come on, y'all.  Seriously.

Horton may be a product of the GOBN but seriously, the guy has produced several good running backs.  To say he's not a good coach is crazy.

[TMc]

You can bet Allen will be retained unless he no longer wants to coach

I have heard he's heading to adminstration.., which is a good place for him.

[tbhogfan]

Usually the incoming HC gets the choice of which staff members are retained.   

[MDH]

I quote:

"Smith was hired to a 10-month contract last April and his employment agreement runs through Feb. 23, 2013. Smith will remain in the department as a consultant through the completion of his 10-month contract. Smith will be reassigned to assist with the transition to the new coaching staff once a new head coach is named. All assistant coaches have the option to remain a part of the football staff pending the hiring of a new head coach."

[hoglady]

LMAO.  Come on, y'all.  Seriously.

Horton may be a product of the GOBN but seriously, the guy has produced several good running backs.  To say he's not a good coach is crazy.

No kidding. We have consistently had good running backs.
It's not Horton's fault when the OC doesn't use them effectively.

[Jackson_64]

anybody know anything more?

Sam, you've got some good information.  I think you were the first to break this.  Let us know if you hear anything else.  +1, when I can!

[Tim Harris]

They all have the option to stay part of the program until the new coach is hired. He will then choose who stays.

[futurehogdad]

And here come the pleas to keep Horton & Allen...

personally, I want a clean slate.

Allen will remain with the Athletic Program.  Long will ask the new coach if he wants Bobby on his staff.  If the answer is no, he will be moved to an administrative position.

[Pork Twain]

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8668259/john-l-smith-back-coach-arkansas-razorbacks

[Styflin]

It's happening right now. I suspect Tim Horton and Bobby Allen will stay on to bridge recruiting until the new coach is hired, and then there will be a place for them either on staff or in administration.

haha.  Guess some are so stupid?

[rude1]

Keeping assistants should be the new head coach's decision.  It does, however, make sense to retain Horton because of the recruiting relationships.

Really? Hasn't he been our recruiting coordinator? Have you seen our lack of recruiting? If anything there is a definite need for change at that spot for sure.

[idochog]

Allen can stay. Horton needs to go IMO

[Break & Run]

Allen can stay. Horton needs to go IMO

Why does Horton need to go?  Because his dad was a big part of the GOBN?  That's not fair to a man who held the recruiting class together for Petrino in his first year and he's been recruiting his butt off this last year, too.  Not to mention, he's a pretty dang good RB coach.

[Wooderson]

Why does Horton need to go?  Because his dad was a big part of the GOBN?  That's not fair to a man who held the recruiting class together for Petrino in his first year and he's been recruiting his butt off this last year, too.  Not to mention, he's a pretty dang good RB coach.

Really?  How many fumbles did our RB's have this year?  I personally don't know if he should be retained or not, but our rb's were horrible at controlling the ball this year.

[nextlevel]

Keeping assistants should be the new head coach's decision.  It does, however, make sense to retain Horton because of the recruiting relationships.

Especially with Horton being the RB coach and the Tenpenny being a runningback and the state's best recruit and well on his way to anywhere but Arkansas.

[Hydroguy87]

Really?  How many fumbles did our RB's have this year?  I personally don't know if he should be retained or not, but our rb's were horrible at controlling the ball this year.

To say this would be equal to saying that every INT Ryan Mallett and Tyler Wilson threw was because Bobby Petrino was a bad qb coach. Doesnt make sense. You can coach your butt off and teach how to hold onto the ball, but ultimately it is up the rb to hold onto the ball. All rb's are taught from a young age how to run with/hold onto the ball. Not the coaches fault.

[Hydroguy87]

Especially with Horton being the RB coach and the Tenpenny being a runningback and the state's best recruit and well on his way to anywhere but Arkansas.

Why must everyone ASSUME that because you are a very good recruiter that you MUST land EVERY single top prospect in your state. Some young kids just want to get away and see new places. Also, there is not legite reason to believe Tenpenny will not change his mind. I am sure he was told that he was wanted and that Alabama's class would fill quickly so he decided to go ahead and commit. Doesnt mean he is 100%, or that he wont change his mind. With Yeldon being a Soph next year and the nations #1 RB already committed to Bama, he would be smart to rethink his decision. I'm sure our new HC will work hard to convince him on this also.

[nextlevel]

Why must everyone ASSUME that because you are a very good recruiter that you MUST land EVERY single top prospect in your state. Some young kids just want to get away and see new places. Also, there is not legite reason to believe Tenpenny will not change his mind. I am sure he was told that he was wanted and that Alabama's class would fill quickly so he decided to go ahead and commit. Doesnt mean he is 100%, or that he wont change his mind. With Yeldon being a Soph next year and the nations #1 RB already committed to Bama, he would be smart to rethink his decision. I'm sure our new HC will work hard to convince him on this also.

A single top prospect from the state would be a start for Horton.

He worked hard to retain his job in 07, good for him, has he done that this year? Has anyone on the staff? Is a three day work week during the season working hard?