No wonder we lost Perry...

[BannerMountainMan]

I'll come back to you once the dust settles.  Yes, I know the history of everything and have read plenty so far.  If he felt so strongly about the Miss. St. ties why did he commit to the Hogs in the first place?

because he was on an AAU team with 4 other studs and they were gonna go play together and win the national championship but sometimes money gets in the way.

[razorhead94]

because he was on an AAU team with 4 other studs and they were gonna go play together and win the national championship but sometimes money gets in the way.

I agree.  Read my other post.

[Hogs49ers]

MA couldn't even do an in home until September even if he wanted to. The Perries are so full of it.

That means Miss. St. was probably breaking that rule as well...Mrs. Perry saying that about Mike not doing home visits, meaning someone else was...

[jjdlc]

That means Miss. St. was probably breaking that rule as well...Mrs. Perry saying that about Mike not doing home visits, meaning someone else was...

Ding ding ding, we have a winner.

[FineAsSwine]

https://twitter.com/ben_howland/status/604738389288595456

[The Hawg Marshal]

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/09/espn-jay-williams-kevin-love-aau-coach-250-college-basketball-scandal-fbi-ncaa

Guess who Kevin Love ended up playing for?

[bville_hog]

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/09/espn-jay-williams-kevin-love-aau-coach-250-college-basketball-scandal-fbi-ncaa

Guess who Kevin Love ended up playing for?

Howland, Boom!

[The Hawg Marshal]

Howland, Boom!

Yep. He is as dirty as the day is long.

[bulldog04]

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/09/espn-jay-williams-kevin-love-aau-coach-250-college-basketball-scandal-fbi-ncaa

Guess who Kevin Love ended up playing for?

So if 250k wasn't high enough I wonder what the winning number was

[The Hawg Marshal]

So if 250k wasn't high enough I wonder what the winning number was

We may never know that. But I absolutely believe he got paid, and Howland is complicit.

[Hogs49ers]

http://www.djournal.com/multimedia/video-ben-howland/youtube_de1f91bf-9abb-5d76-ba6d-35245f719b5e.html

Go to the 4 minute mark in todays PC with Ben Howland and listen to his response to the FBI probe. 

To me, that is exactly what a guilty person's response would be.  Unless you are guilty and expect to be part of said investigation, why would anyone say "I will not comment on an ongoing investigation"?  I believe all the non-guilty coaches that absolutely know there is no way they could be involved would share their joy with the idea of college basketball getting cleaned up - even the reporter that asked the question said "a lot of coaches have said they were happy that the game was getting cleaned up."

[STLhawg]

Wow, his "no comment" response to a much broader question (about will it be good for NCAA BB by cleaning up the sport) speaks VOLUMES!

[The Hawg Marshal]

http://www.djournal.com/multimedia/video-ben-howland/youtube_de1f91bf-9abb-5d76-ba6d-35245f719b5e.html

Go to the 4 minute mark in todays PC with Ben Howland and listen to his response to the FBI probe. 

To me, that is exactly what a guilty person's response would be.  Unless you are guilty and expect to be part of said investigation, why would anyone say "I will not comment on an ongoing investigation"?  Are all coaches responding that way right now?  I would have to imagine the non guilty coaches that absolutely know there is no way they could be involved would share there joy with the idea of college basketball getting cleaned up - even the reporter that asked the question said "a lot of coaches have said they were happy that the game was getting cleaned up."

Yeah that sounded pretty convenient ,and he was glad not to answer it.

[Hogs49ers]

Wow, his "no comment" response to a much broader question (about will it be good for NCAA BB by cleaning up the sport) speaks VOLUMES!

Exactly, plenty of coaches have clearly answered that question straight up already and said "glad they are finally cleaning it up, should level the playing field."  Not Howland...He was told to answer that question in that way.

[LRHawg]

#Karma

[onebadrubi]

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/09/espn-jay-williams-kevin-love-aau-coach-250-college-basketball-scandal-fbi-ncaa

Guess who Kevin Love ended up playing for?

From what I've read on the love story, the 250k was given to the aau coach after love was already at UCLA, and was for the purpose of getting love to sign with that agency.  Now, with that being said, no way that aau coach can say he's clean and was likely to take payment to steer players, but the 250 Williams is talking about doesn't appear to be to get love to UCLA. 

[Been10Hog]

From what I've read on the love story, the 250k was given to the aau coach after love was already at UCLA, and was for the purpose of getting love to sign with that agency.  Now, with that being said, no way that aau coach can say he's clean and was likely to take payment to steer players, but the 250 Williams is talking about doesn't appear to be to get love to UCLA.

Sounds like a great defense for someone like Auburn to use! We didn't pay recruits to come to Auburn. It's not our fault the Auburn "family" took care of them when they got here!

[Hogs49ers]

Check out this article from a Miss St. reporter, their media is literally not bringing up the issue at all and are staying as far away as they can from it.  Then read the comment below the article haha!

http://www.djournal.com/sports/howland-optimistic-and-encouraged-about-upcoming-year/article_80195d27-a750-58dc-8303-af9bc0d7133c.html

[MakingPlays]

Check out this article from a Miss St. reporter, their media is literally not bringing up the issue at all and are staying as far away as they can from it.  Then read the comment below the article haha!

http://www.djournal.com/sports/howland-optimistic-and-encouraged-about-upcoming-year/article_80195d27-a750-58dc-8303-af9bc0d7133c.html

I'm pretty sure that was a Hog fan writing that comment trying to disguise themselves as a Mississippi State fan.  Everything he wrote is verbatim of what Arkansas fans have been saying.  He didn't even hide it well at all LOL.

[Hogs49ers]

I'm pretty sure that was a Hog fan writing that comment trying to disguise themselves as a Mississippi State fan.  Everything he wrote is verbatim of what Arkansas fans have been saying.

Oh of course, that was absolutely me haha.  I really did not care too much about hiding it ha.

[Hog_Swanson]

Oh of course, that was absolutely me haha.  I really did not care too much about hiding it ha.

I had a feeling that might be you...

[MakingPlays]

Oh of course, that was absolutely me haha.  I really did not care too much about hiding it ha.

LMAO, I was thinking that, but I didn't wanna out you like that

[Hogs49ers]

 

[Pig in the Pokey]

RP, mom messaged me direct.  Saying that MA never did an inhome visit with them and didn't keep in contact with Reggie like he should have.  Of course I didn't mention that maybe Mike had realized that he was on the take at this point and that was the reason he didn't contact him and kept contact at minimum. I didn't respond to her.  But here is her Twitter to me.

damn. tells me she was worried and out there on the twitters in damage control.

[Pig in the Pokey]

And the IRS.  Taxes on $150,000 income is going to to hurt.

yep. thats a solid 60k they owe.

[MakingPlays]

I ain't mad at you for doing it though.  It's 100% true.  And by the way the mom was acting yesterday, she pretty much confirmed our suspicions. 

I'm glad Coach Anderson didn't play the game, and kept it clean.  And it's kinda funny too, you can tell by her comments and all the stuff she was saying about Coach Anderson it kinda pissed her off that he wouldn't even entertain them.

[Pig in the Pokey]

it seems odd that Mike would drop the ball on the top recruit in the class like that. Of course some think he did it all along. But now we find out that there may have been different reasons as to why Mike ha e lost recruits in the past.  Still tho, it does seem odd that Perry's mom would say that unless Mike had heard something and wanted no part of it. I don't know.  I'll have to ask my friend who has deep connections what he heard.  And if I'm able to say anything I'll try and confirm stuff. I want to believe that the kid and family are clean. But, it sure doesn't look that way.

Dad getting sick and losing his job definitely put them in a weakened position to reject money; especially when he was at that point a 5* and killing it on the Adidas circuit.

[Pig in the Pokey]

No, just alluding to the fact the Perry family could have said these reasons as well instead of just the sick dad story.  At this point, I don't believe anything they say.

I do think at one point Reggie loved the U of A and wanted to come to school here then things changed once Reggie got big time and different people got involved.

b/c the dad is sick narrative backfired. NOW it proves they needed money badly

[Cubbie08]

If money is the issue, why don't all these high level guys sign 1 year deals in Europe after high school?

[Hogs49ers]

If money is the issue, why don't all these high level guys sign 1 year deals in Europe after high school?

I absolutely think we will start seeing it trend in that direction.

[songofthesword]

that is a cop out

i have a 17 year old sister. we have different fathers.  Her father just had a stroke and a brain thingy.  he can't move the right side of his body. can't work.


not only that, my sister goes to a private school (LR Christian) and plays golf.. quite well I mgiht add. good enough to get looks from the UofA.


there is no 150k windfalll to help out. that's when the family steps up. and there is no handouts when she goes to college either.


and what does that teach your child? its okay to cheat when life gets tough?  i'm glad he's gone elsewhere that's not the type of people I want the UofA assoicated with

[azhog10]

From what I've read on the love story, the 250k was given to the aau coach after love was already at UCLA, and was for the purpose of getting love to sign with that agency.  Now, with that being said, no way that aau coach can say he's clean and was likely to take payment to steer players, but the 250 Williams is talking about doesn't appear to be to get love to UCLA.

AAU Coach was given the money AFTER Love made it to campus.....part of him getting to UCLA was why he got paid.....Oh and some of that $ made it back to K-Love.

[KlubhouseKonnected]

that is a cop out

i have a 17 year old sister. we have different fathers.  Her father just had a stroke and a brain thingy.  he can't move the right side of his body. can't work.


not only that, my sister goes to a private school (LR Christian) and plays golf.. quite well I mgiht add. good enough to get looks from the UofA.


there is no 150k windfalll to help out. that's when the family steps up. and there is no handouts when she goes to college either.


and what does that teach your child? its okay to cheat when life gets tough?  i'm glad he's gone elsewhere that's not the type of people I want the UofA assoicated with

"Family stepping up" is exactly the kind of manipulative pitch Reggie got about giving up playing with his friends at Arkansas and instead choose Mi$$take

[KlubhouseKonnected]

AAU Coach was given the money AFTER Love made it to campus.....part of him getting to UCLA was why he got paid.....Oh and some of that $ made it back to K-Love.

No, it just sets an MO for his former AAU coach. Was their earlier steering and inducement? Maybe.

[azhog10]

No, it just sets an MO for his former AAU coach. Was their earlier steering and inducement? Maybe.

Disagree. When Kevin was playing for SoCal Allstars it was very much known that he was being pushed to UCLA and his club team was streaming in cash. Part of that payment was to keep Kevin on L.A.

[KlubhouseKonnected]

Disagree. When Kevin was playing for SoCal Allstars it was very much known that he was being pushed to UCLA and his club team was streaming in cash. Part of that payment was to keep Kevin on L.A.

I meant to quote who you did. My point being that story would just tend to corroborate what you have said here.

[azhog10]

I meant to quote who you did. My point being that story would just tend to corroborate what you have said here.

Ohhh, got you.

[PorkRinds]

Check out this article from a Miss St. reporter, their media is literally not bringing up the issue at all and are staying as far away as they can from it.  Then read the comment below the article haha!

http://www.djournal.com/sports/howland-optimistic-and-encouraged-about-upcoming-year/article_80195d27-a750-58dc-8303-af9bc0d7133c.html

That comment has GOT to be Pig in the Pokey. It's just gotta be.

[PonderinHog]

That comment has GOT to be Pig in the Pokey. It's just gotta be.

Yeah, he used that name here before Pig-in-the-Pokey.

[Hogs49ers]

That comment has GOT to be Pig in the Pokey. It's just gotta be.

Lol no it was definitely me.  I am shameless.  Well the initial one was from me anyway haha.

[rzrbackramsfan]

Lol no it was definitely me.  I am shameless.  Well the initial one was from me anyway haha.

That was hilarious. 

[PorkRinds]

Lol no it was definitely me.  I am shameless.  Well the initial one was from me anyway haha.

Were you the first comment acting like a MSU fan or the second person to comment?

[Hogs49ers]

Were you the first comment acting like a MSU fan or the second person to comment?

I was the initial post acting like a MSU fan lol.

[PonderinHog]

I was the initial post acting like a MSU fan lol.

+1

[The_Bionic_Pig]

Anyone notice LSU has suddenly been a very, very  attractive option for out of state elite talent over the last few months...

[PorkRinds]

I was the initial post acting like a MSU fan lol.

I'm talking about the other one. It's gotta be PiP.

[The Hawg Marshal]

I'm talking about the other one. It's gotta be PiP.

It is. That's the name he uses on SEC Rant

[Hogs49ers]

I'm talking about the other one. It's gotta be PiP.

I gotcha, I say that is probably a pretty accurate assumption haha.

[onebadrubi]

Anyone notice LSU has suddenly been a very, very  attractive option for out of state elite talent over the last few months...

They've been paying players for awhile according to Leo Lewis case

[Pig in the Pokey]

That comment has GOT to be Pig in the Pokey. It's just gotta be.

you should be a detective. Im Slackaveli lol. Was here , too, a very long time ago.