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WizardofhOgZ

February 21, 2016, 08:21:12 pm
Just got a look at his highlight video that is being posted...reminds me of Ky Madden's HS video...nice darn, finisher around the rim, rangy body type that is disruptive on defense....good fit...glad he's ours.

ShadowHawg

February 21, 2016, 08:57:40 pm #1
Reminds me of a more athletic Scotty Thurman. Long and lanky, can finish with either hand, dunks on break aways but finishes near the rim with jumper/floaters, plays within himself, and has a nice looking rhythm on his shot. Not a creator but can shoot off the pass and in transition very well.

 

bvillepig

February 21, 2016, 09:41:50 pm #2
Do you think if he had a promoter from a young age he would be higher rated ?
Athletically he looks like a high star to my untrained eyes.  This kid can play.

As a note I personally don't worry whether a kid only has an offer from UT Chattanooga.  Almost every d1 school in America has at least one or two players who could play for the elite. The problem is depth.

The_Iceman

February 22, 2016, 09:09:47 am #3

nwahogfan1

February 22, 2016, 09:15:22 am #4
Quote from: WizardofhOgZ on February 21, 2016, 08:21:12 pm
Just got a look at his highlight video that is being posted...reminds me of Ky Madden's HS video...nice darn, finisher around the rim, rangy body type that is disruptive on defense....good fit...glad he's ours.

Average player who will take a few years to develop but Mike needs this type athlete to be effective in his press. What has taken him so long in recruiting these guys.  But I do wish he was a couple inches taller and a little bit better over all player but it is a start in the right direction.

husker71

February 22, 2016, 09:22:15 am #5
we all wish we were 2 inches taller

klp1

February 22, 2016, 09:37:55 am #6
Quote from: husker71 on February 22, 2016, 09:22:15 am
we all wish we were 2 inches taller


He is supposed to be 6'5 now.   I think he'll be a nice addition.  He's got nice looking jumper.

Hawg Red

February 22, 2016, 09:44:34 am #7
I'm most interested in this revelation that he could have developed into a knock-down shooter this season. I read (I think on here) that had games of 8 and 10 made 3-pointers. I've seen the highlight tape, so I know he's athletic. But if he's 6'5 now and a knock-down shooter? This could be a great pickup. Also, the fact that the staff wanted to get him on board in February shows that they really think they have something. This isn't a scramble and they didn't slow-play this kid. They targeted him as soon as he decommitted and wrapped him up. I think we're talking about a kid that outgrew his previous offers this season.

k.c.hawg

February 22, 2016, 11:14:13 am #8
Body type and fluidness makes me think way back to Roger Crawford.
Just sitting on the deck with a cold beer and a hot tequila watching the razorbacks roam.

1hawgballer2

February 22, 2016, 11:59:43 am #9
Just got a look at his highlight video that is being posted...reminds me of Ky Madden's HS video...nice darn, finisher around the rim, rangy body type that is disruptive on defense....good fit...glad he's ours.  Average player who will take a few years to develop but Mike needs this type athlete to be effective in his press. What has taken him so long in recruiting these guys.  But I do wish he was a couple inches taller and a little bit better over all player but it is a start in the right direction.

1hawgballer2

February 22, 2016, 12:00:47 pm #10
Hawgi

1hawgballer2

February 22, 2016, 12:04:50 pm #11
Hawgs illustrated list the young man at 6'5 and his coach says he is still growing perhaps another 2". The average 28 pts this season respectable numbers rebound and assists... What else do you want ?

hogwood

February 22, 2016, 01:16:39 pm #12
Quote from: ricolacey on February 22, 2016, 12:04:50 pm
Hawgs illustrated list the young man at 6'5 and his coach says he is still growing perhaps another 2". The average 28 pts this season respectable numbers rebound and assists... What else do you want ?

A 5-star PF.
 

The_Iceman

February 22, 2016, 01:23:35 pm #13
Quote from: hogwood on February 22, 2016, 01:16:39 pm
A 5-star PF.

Well, we got a 4-star so we aren't too far off there.

hogwood

February 22, 2016, 01:33:05 pm #14
Quote from: The_Iceman on February 22, 2016, 01:23:35 pm
Well, we got a 4-star so we aren't too far off there.

True. Wouldn't mind another one though.

The Hogfather

February 22, 2016, 01:42:30 pm #15
Quote from: Hawg Red on February 22, 2016, 09:44:34 am
I'm most interested in this revelation that he could have developed into a knock-down shooter this season. I read (I think on here) that had games of 8 and 10 made 3-pointers. I've seen the highlight tape, so I know he's athletic. But if he's 6'5 now and a knock-down shooter? This could be a great pickup. Also, the fact that the staff wanted to get him on board in February shows that they really think they have something. This isn't a scramble and they didn't slow-play this kid. They targeted him as soon as he decommitted and wrapped him up. I think we're talking about a kid that outgrew his previous offers this season.

He has great form on his shot, from what I can see in the video.  Always tough to go solely on a video, though.

Danny J

February 22, 2016, 01:47:54 pm #16
Quote from: Hawg Red on February 22, 2016, 09:44:34 am
I'm most interested in this revelation that he could have developed into a knock-down shooter this season. I read (I think on here) that had games of 8 and 10 made 3-pointers. I've seen the highlight tape, so I know he's athletic. But if he's 6'5 now and a knock-down shooter? This could be a great pickup. Also, the fact that the staff wanted to get him on board in February shows that they really think they have something. This isn't a scramble and they didn't slow-play this kid. They targeted him as soon as he decommitted and wrapped him up. I think we're talking about a kid that outgrew his previous offers this season.
I believe that game he was 11 for 11 and that included being 8 for 8 from three. Unless he was just having "one of those nights" it is hard to do that even in shoot around.

Arazorbackguy1

February 22, 2016, 02:00:32 pm #17
Quote from: husker71 on February 22, 2016, 09:22:15 am
we all wish we were 2 inches taller

I wish I had a rabbit in a hat
I have 10 to 12 points to make per game.

PigBrother

February 22, 2016, 02:07:47 pm #18
Looks like a legit, and long, 6'4".  I'm ready for the 6'10" wingspan story. 

hogwood

February 22, 2016, 02:24:21 pm #19
If CJ can get to 200 lbs by this fall he could be impactful off the bench when we need him (probably won't that much though).

razorbackfanatic

February 23, 2016, 12:38:04 pm #20 Last Edit: February 23, 2016, 01:04:56 pm by razorbackfanatic
People keep saying why hasn't Mike been recruiting athletic guys like this. He has, did u forget about Qualls, Whitt, Jacorey Williams, Babb, Alandise Harris, Coty Clarke, Jenkins, etc.? Babb transferred, Williams got kicked off, Qualls left a year early. He needs to try to get 2 of these type guys every class and the 2016 class has this and looks very athletic overall.

Right now with Williams getting kicked off, Babb and Qualls leaving the program, we've lost 3 very athletic guys and Jenkins is a project so he isn't helping. And to be honest if Qualls going early wasn't unexpected by this staff we may not have even signed Jenkins. Losing those guys hurts us athletically and Whitt is taking longer to adjust than most(me included) expected.

When we play 3 or 4 guards with only one big like Moses down low and those guards are Beard 6'1", Durham 6'2", Hannahs 6'3" etc. we don't have the athleticsm and length on this current roster to play our style of pressing, disruptive defense very efficiently. U need guys that are athletic with have long wing spans like Whitt, lightning quick athletes like Clint McDaniel, Brandon Dean or 6'4"-6'8" guys like Qualls, Thurman, Crawford, Ali Thompson, Joe Johnson, Day, Brewer, etc. that can defend 1-4 if they have to.

Next years class looks to have addressed this and brought in some shooters like Macon to help replace Bell.

HawgAdvocate

February 23, 2016, 12:58:02 pm #21
Quote from: The_Iceman on February 22, 2016, 01:23:35 pm
Well, we got a 4-star so we aren't too far off there.

Who's a 4*? Cook?

Wait, nevermind, I can already guess that it's a 247 ranking.
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HOGINTENNESSEE

February 23, 2016, 01:16:37 pm #22
Quote from: husker71 on February 22, 2016, 09:22:15 am
we all wish we were 2 inches taller

I wish he was an inch shorter and named Malik Monk. But we get what we get

The_Iceman

February 23, 2016, 01:54:10 pm #23
Quote from: HawgAdvocate on February 23, 2016, 12:58:02 pm
Who's a 4*? Cook?

Wait, nevermind, I can already guess that it's a 247 ranking.

What should I go by then?
 

HawgAdvocate

February 23, 2016, 02:30:09 pm #24
Quote from: The_Iceman on February 23, 2016, 01:54:10 pm
What should I go by then?

Go by what ya like. I'm just not a 247 fan. They hand out *s like modern day Little League baseball hands out participation trophies. They tend to paint the prettiest pictures, so its understandable that most fans will visit their site.

Last year, their top 11 JUCOs were all 4* players. Out of those 11, there are four of them that contribute more than 5 points/game for their respective teams this season.
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SooiecidetillNuttgone

February 23, 2016, 02:37:05 pm #25
Quote from: klp1 on February 22, 2016, 09:37:55 am

He is supposed to be 6'5 now.   I think he'll be a nice addition.  He's got nice looking jumper.

Agreed.  Unlike Whitt, whose jumper needs to have John Henry take a sledgehammer to it, this guy's jumper looks to have pretty good form.

I think Whitt is a very good talent, but his shooting form needs help.
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nwahogfan1

February 23, 2016, 09:48:03 pm #26

nwahogfan1

February 23, 2016, 09:50:25 pm #27
Quote from: SooiecidetillNuttgone on February 23, 2016, 02:37:05 pm
Agreed.  Unlike Whitt, whose jumper needs to have John Henry take a sledgehammer to it, this guy's jumper looks to have pretty good form.

I think Whitt is a very good talent, but his shooting form needs help.

If they don't assign to Whitt a shooting coach over the next 9 months to correct that ugly shot of his then they are not doing the kid any favors.  Terrible form.
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