The Bowl Bid Was a Home Run

[Hawg_Thai'd]

No beef, but I don't consider a city without zoning laws "world class".

Well, you mean to tell me they don't force every citizen to install a privacy fence on personal property. Stinkin' Libertarians! They'll be the ruin of this country. You watch.

[HoginHouston]

Well, you mean to tell me they don't force every citizen to install a privacy fence on personal property. Stinkin' Libertarians! They'll be the ruin of this country. You watch.

If you don't think Houston's a world-class city, you haven't been paying attention.

[Hawgzinbowlz]

NRG Stadium looks to be first rate.

Any stadium that uses a grass surface for professional football games then changes to AstroTurf GameDay Grass for college and high school games is above and beyond most stadiums.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NRG_Stadium

" GO HOGS "

[Ex-Trumpet]

No beef, but I don't consider a city without zoning laws "world class".

http://www.businessweek.com/the_thread/hotproperty/archives/2007/10/how_houston_gets_along_without_zoning.html

What is unique about Houston is that the separation of land uses is impelled by economic forces rather than mandatory zoning. While it is theoretically possible for a petrochemical refinery to locate next to a housing development, it is unlikely that profit-maximizing real-estate developers will allow this to happen. Developers employ widespread private covenants and deed restrictions, which serve a comparable role as zoning. These privately prescribed land use controls are effective because they have a legal precedence and local government has chosen to assist in enforcing them.


Not sure I understand your beef with people and their property rights.

[Redhogs]

LSU and Ole Miss are more hated by most hog fans than Auburn.  We will stomp Texas. Our D-line will rock their world. 

Don't agree with that...AU loss is almost as good as a Razorback win....allot of us feel that way...read some past threads.

[Redhogs]

Well, you mean to tell me they don't force every citizen to install a privacy fence on personal property. Stinkin' Libertarians! They'll be the ruin of this country. You watch.

Well played..

[Ex-Trumpet]

Don't agree with that...AU loss is almost as good as a Razorback win....allot of us feel that way...read some past threads.

That's the thing...25 years ago it was undisputed among all Hog fans:  Texas sucked more than anything that had ever sucked!

Today there are factions that hate Auburn, others that hate LSU, others that hate Ole Miss, etc.

[lasthog]

World Class City? It certainly beats Memphis, Shreveport and Birmingham but cmon.
LMAO.

Get out much? Maybe Paris or NYC would have worked for you.

[Ex-Trumpet]

Get out much? Maybe Paris or NYC would have worked for you.

NYC is friggin cold in December!

[Hawg_Thai'd]

If you don't think Houston's a world-class city, you haven't been paying attention.

I'm on your side. I was arguing with the stray from Jump Ball. I have been through and stayed in Houston many times. Greenspoint area and the Woodlands area mostly. I will say that I believe Houston, for its size, is very clean.

[HoginHouston]

I'm on your side. I was arguing with the stray from Jump Ball. I have been through and stayed in Houston many times. Greenspoint area and the Woodlands area mostly. I will say that I believe Houston, for its size, is very clean.

Glad to hear it. Hog fans should check out the Museum District, Discovery Green, and lots of our restaurants.

[Hawg_Thai'd]

Glad to hear it. Hog fans should check out the Museum District, Discovery Green, and lots of our restaurants.

I believe I have been to D. Green. I was down there during 4th of July and they had a big festival set up and a concert. It was fun.

[Inhogswetrust]

No beef, but I don't consider a city without zoning laws "world class".

I bet you're one of those one issue voters huh? Houston is one of the largest metro areas in the country with a HUGE economic impact on it. I say yes that alone qualifies it as word class.

[HoginHouston]

I bet you're one of those one issue voters huh? Houston is one of the largest metro areas in the country with a HUGE economic impact on it. I say yes that alone qualifies it as word class.

Amen, brother.

[Cresthog]

I bet you're one of those one issue voters huh? Houston is one of the largest metro areas in the country with a HUGE economic impact on it. I say yes that alone qualifies it as word class.

So a one dimensional economy, a MASSIVE illegal immigrant population and some tall buildings are the new requirements for being world class?

News to me. Again, I'd much rather be there than the other options but the only people that consider Houston a "world class city" are folks where the next best city in the entire world is either Dallas/Little Rock. To me its OKC closer to the mexican border with access to the ocean and older oil money. I've lived in Chicago, LA and now STL. Sorry if I hurt your feelings, I live in one of the most dangerous crapholes in the USA, but at least ill admit it. And hell, I like it, but I'm not going to sit here and proclaim STL as a worldly city because of the arch.

I'm sorry man but if you rank it up there with the NYCs, San Frans, Tokyos, Singapores, Shanghai's, Paris, Barcelonas, Madrids, Berlins and London's of the world, you REALLY need to get out more.

[Ex-Trumpet]

So a one dimensional economy, a MASSIVE illegal immigrant population and some tall buildings are the new requirements for being world class?

News to me. Again, I'd much rather be there than the other options but the only people that consider Houston a "world class city" are folks where the next best city in the entire world is either Dallas/Little Rock. To me its OKC closer to the mexican border with access to the ocean and older oil money. I've lived in Chicago, LA and now STL. Sorry if I hurt your feelings, I live in one of the most dangerous crapholes in the USA, but at least ill admit it. And hell, I like it, but I'm not going to sit here and proclaim STL as a worldly city because of the arch.

I'm sorry man but if you rank it up there with the NYCs, San Frans, Tokyos, Singapores, Shanghai's, Paris, Barcelonas, Madrids, Berlins and London's of the world, you REALLY need to get out more.

Not sure we received a bowl invite to any of those cities.

[Cresthog]

Not sure we received a bowl invite to any of those cities.

Not sure where I said we did or that I would prefer to go to a bowl in any of those cities?

Simply arguing the notion that Houston is a "world class city". Is it really that complicated?

[thefisher]

No downside to this match up  ..... Could not have envisioned a better post season opportunity than this.

Totally agree.  There is no downside to this bowl. 

If folks were asked before the season started how they would feel if the Hogs went 6-6 and got Texas in this bowl game I think everyone would have called it a homerun season. That is particularly true when considering the circumstances coming in and the schedule being faced.

[NaturalStateReb]

So a one dimensional economy, a MASSIVE illegal immigrant population and some tall buildings are the new requirements for being world class?

That's what makes Stuttgart world class.  Can't say about Houston.

[Inhogswetrust]

So a one dimensional economy, a MASSIVE illegal immigrant population and some tall buildings are the new requirements for being world class?

News to me. Again, I'd much rather be there than the other options but the only people that consider Houston a "world class city" are folks where the next best city in the entire world is either Dallas/Little Rock. To me its OKC closer to the mexican border with access to the ocean and older oil money. I've lived in Chicago, LA and now STL. Sorry if I hurt your feelings, I live in one of the most dangerous crapholes in the USA, but at least ill admit it. And hell, I like it, but I'm not going to sit here and proclaim STL as a worldly city because of the arch.

I'm sorry man but if you rank it up there with the NYCs, San Frans, Tokyos, Singapores, Shanghai's, Paris, Barcelonas, Madrids, Berlins and London's of the world, you REALLY need to get out more.

You didn't hurt my feelings at all. You simply stated because of a lack of zoning that Houston couldn't be a world class city. Having ONLY stated ONE criteria what is anyone to think? So give us your definition of a "world class" city. How many in the world are there in your eyes? Just because the petroleum industry dominates the Houston economy doesn't mean it isn't world class. There are other industries as well and arts and sports and world class hospitals, etc. I get out quite a bit. I've never been to Europe but been to LA to many times to count when our son lived there and I've been to SF so many times due to my son now living in San Jose (and Taipei) I'm practically a resident. My favorite city of all is actually Vancouver, Canada. I love Tokyo as well. I have family by marriage in Japan since our daughter in law is from Japan and we love going there. I don't care what you think but to me Chicago sucks. Been there a few times and it wouldn't bother me if I never went back. So in your mind tell me why it is world class to you but not Houston. I'd rather live in Dallas or Houston over it any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

[ricepig]

That's what makes Stuttgart world class.  Can't say about Houston.

Do grain bins qualify as tall buildings? Shoot, Alicia might be world class, hmm.....

[pigture perfect]

Houston doesn't suck nearly as much, now that the Astro's are in the American League. But it's still in Texas. And I used to date a girl from Humble. Problem was she wasn't. I love this bowl matchup however. Takes the sting out of the Missouri loss a little.

[Rison Razor Hog]

I'm on your side. I was arguing with the stray from Jump Ball. I have been through and stayed in Houston many times. Greenspoint area and the Woodlands area mostly. I will say that I believe Houston, for its size, is very clean.

I travel to Houston a lot and I usually stay in the Greenspoint area, I love JimmyG's Cajun restaurant when I am in town.

[Cresthog]

Houston doesn't suck nearly as much, now that the Astro's are in the American League. But it's still in Texas. And I used to date a girl from Humble. Problem was she wasn't. I love this bowl matchup however. Takes the sting out of the Missouri loss a little.

How does the league they are in change anything? I hear that a lot, just purely curious on the Astros.

Only follow them now that Kuechal has made his splash.

[thefisher]

Do grain bins qualify as tall buildings? Shoot, Alicia might be world class, hmm.....

If they will only grandfather in double wides then a new tourism marketing boom is in sight!

Some of the more entrepreneurial types on here might get a Tshirt going along that line.

It might become as famous as the Arkansas jersey mock ups that had the pinecones on the pants.

In fact bringing those out for the bowl game has real potential!  I don't have that pic but it was an all time classic thread!

[NaturalStateReb]

Do grain bins qualify as tall buildings? Shoot, Alicia might be world class, hmm.....

+1 for obscure Northeast Arkansas reference.

[Sportster365]

Lots of 6-6 bowl bids aren't very exciting. Going is certainly better than not going, but they all too often feature a trip to nowhere in the freezing cold against an unremarkable opponent.

This bowl bid though, is fantastic. In Houston, inside, against hated Texas. Can't really ask for a better bowl outcome.

How much, if any, did Jeff Long's new found influence play a roll in our team landing this bowl invite? I mean seriously we landed a better bowl than Georgia, LSU, Florida, S.Carolina, Texas A&M and Tennessee, in almost every aspect. The Texas bowl claims a higher payout, great location, and this year a decent opponent, if not but in nothing more than name only.

It would be completely naïve to believe there wasn't some serious "politic'n" going on here. Which gives me all the more reason to appreciate Long being here.

[hogcard1964]

How much, if any, did Jeff Long's new found influence play a roll in our team landing this bowl invite? I mean seriously we landed a better bowl than Georgia, LSU, Florida, S.Carolina, Texas A&M and Tennessee, in almost every aspect. The Texas bowl claims a higher payout, great location, and this year a decent opponent, if not but in nothing more than name only.

It would be completely naïve to believe there wasn't some serious "politic'n" going on here. Which gives me all the more reason to appreciate Long being here.

I agree

Kudos to Jeff and the U of A.

I was a bit skepitical, but am now a firm believer.

[Tomhog™]

I can't believe most of this thread revolves around whether Houston is "world class" or not. LOL

Then again, this is Hogville where everything is debated into oblivion....

[NaturalStateReb]

I can't believe most of this thread revolves around whether Houston is "world class" or not. LOL

Then again, this is Hogville where everything is debated into oblivion....

The arguments are so intense because the stakes are so small.

[jrhardy88]

Great matchup couldn't have worked out better,excited about it.Some people just love to whine and complain...they can't help it.Suck the damn fun out of everything.

[OneTuskOverTheLine™]

Playing in an NFL stadium will be fun for the team also. Will not be hard to get game face on for this one.

Could be Flowers 1st home game... 

[ricepig]

+1 for obscure Northeast Arkansas reference.

Yeah, I was going to say Hopewell, but I didn't think Alicia's suburbs would count.

[FraggleHog]

This fact seems to sneak up on people... Houston is the 4th largest city in the US behind NY, LA and Chicago. Exxonmobile is relocating their global headquarters to the Woodlands area. I believe this is the largest corporate relocation in history. Some who haven't been down there in a while would be surprised about all of the development in the suburbs. (Of course I'm biased as my wife was born in Sugarland). But still... No doubt Houston is a World Class city!

[NaturalStateReb]

Yeah, I was going to say Hopewell, but I didn't think Alicia's suburbs would count.

I don't think Minturn would count either.  lol