The programs that you think are cheaters, really do cheat

[The OTR]

They cheat, cheat like crazy




Bret really is doing it the right way

[MountieDawg]

They cheat, cheat like crazy




Bret really is doing it the right way

Mr Bielema, your son is arrogant, and unprepared and not a good recruiter! But he is just, Being Bret Bielema.

[Torqued pork]

Can't we try cheating the right way? As Mr. Trump once said, "what in the #€!! do you have to lose?"

[Hawghiggs]

 No they aren't cheating.  They hire better coaches. Alabama wasn't very good before Saban. Kentucky wasn't good before Calipari. When Petrino was here. We where doing very well. It takes the right coaches and plan to win.

[The OTR]

No they aren't cheating.  They hire better coaches. Alabama wasn't very good before Saban. Kentucky wasn't good before Calipari. When Petrino was here. We where doing very well. It takes the right coaches and plan to win.

No

They really are cheating like crazy

They really are

[RollHogTide]

No

They really are cheating like crazy

They really are

Take your facts to the NCAA - they'd welcome the conversation.

[The OTR]

Take your facts to the NCAA - they'd welcome the conversation.

you know

[RollHogTide]

you know

My son (who was actually part of the team) would disagree.  However, if you have proof of your allegations - by all means present them to the NCAA.

[The OTR]

My son (who was actually part of the team) would disagree.  However, if you have proof of your allegations - by all means present them to the NCAA.

I don't care what you think your son's opinion would be, nor do I care about your son's opinion

[Hawghiggs]

I don't care what you think your son's opinion would be, nor do I care about your son's opinion

If you have proof. Then feel free to share it with the NCAA. If not. Then it's just slander.

[BirmingHam]

Take your facts to the NCAA - they'd welcome the conversation.

Are you trying to Dodge the question about the Chargers?

[The OTR]

If you have proof. Then feel free to share it with the NCAA. If not. Then it's just slander.

You're encouraging me to feel free?

[The OTR]

If you have proof. Then feel free to share it with the NCAA. If not. Then it's just slander.

why would I want to "share it with the NCAA"?

what would they do?

[RollHogTide]

I don't care what you think your son's opinion would be, nor do I care about your son's opinion

I would recommend that if have proof of impromper benefits being provided to an athlete - then either provide them to the compliance person at the university or the conference or the NCAA.  They will document, report, and investigate your allegation(s).

[The OTR]

I would recommend that if have proof of impromper benefits being provided to an athlete - then either provide them to the compliance person at the university or the conference or the NCAA.  They will document, report, and investigate your allegation(s).

LOL!

Yeah, I'm sure they would

[Bubba's Bruisers]

So spill it...

[LZH]

I would recommend that if have proof of impromper benefits being provided to an athlete - then either provide them to the compliance person at the university or the conference or the NCAA.  They will document, report, and investigate your allegation(s).

.....that's how you answer a bull post.

+1

[The OTR]

So spill it...

I have nothing to spill

[Hawghiggs]

why would I want to "share it with the NCAA"?

what would they do?

Their job!

[BigE_23]

My God...it's 2006 all over again.

[RollHogTide]

LOL!

Yeah, I'm sure they would

You've never been around an D1 team have you? 

They ABSOLUTELY take it very serious.  That is not to say there are not rogue coaches or boosters; however, the university and ADs take every allegation very seriously.

[Athog]

Mr Bielema, your son is arrogant, and unprepared and not a good recruiter! But he is just, Being Bret Bielema.

Class ...pure class!!

[The OTR]

Their job!

No they wouldn't!

[kodiakisland]

They cheat, cheat like crazy




Bret really is doing it the right way

Is it cheating to tell a D lineman lined up over the ball to not jump offsides when the other team is just running out the quarter and not really snapping the ball on 4th down?

[The OTR]

You've never been around an D1 team have you? 

They ABSOLUTELY take it very serious.  That is not to say there are not rogue coaches or boosters; however, the university and ADs take every allegation very seriously.

more than you have

yes, they do take cheating very seriously

[The OTR]

.....that's how you answer a bull post.

+1

bull post Led?

An Ole Miss player admitted being paid on national TV during the NFL draft, and the NCAA has done nothing about it

bull post?

[Hoggish1]

Can't we try cheating the right way? As Mr. Trump once said, "what in the #€!! do you have to lose?"

You quoted a jackwagon?  Smart...

[The Kig]

You've never been around an D1 team have you? 

They ABSOLUTELY take it very serious.  That is not to say there are not rogue coaches or boosters; however, the university and ADs take every allegation very seriously.

Don't argue with a tard.  It only makes them feel validated. 

Yes, PillowTard, some people do cheat...in every facet of life there are those who do.  There are also some who don't need to cheat to succeed.

[The OTR]

Don't argue with a tard.  It only makes them feel validated. 

Yes, PillowTard, some people do cheat...in every facet of life there are those who do.  There are also some who don't need to cheat to succeed.

you're all over the place on splattering emotion - you're like the Tazmanian Devil of emotion

[Hogimus Prime]

I don't think schools like Bama cheat. Schools like tOSU, FSU and such do.

[Torqued pork]

I don't think schools like Bama cheat. Schools like tOSU, FSU and such do.

Bama may be clean now, but they still make the probation playoffs coming in at #4 for the number of times they've been sanctioned for cheating.

[RollHogTide]

I don't think schools like Bama cheat. Schools like tOSU, FSU and such do.

I have no doubt that some athletes and/or family members take impermissible benefits.  I am also not so naive as to think there are not cover-ups.  However, I am very confident in saying that HCs, ADs, and compliance offices WILL NOT turn a blind-eye. 

It's not like the old days where a coach was loyal to the university and the AD was just another administrator who wasn't graded based on performance.  These people MUST keep their reputation intact because of the show-cause penalties attached to them would be devastating to their career.

We have to look no further than Jim Tressel. Who didn't give impermissible benefits, he just overlooked them.  Cost him his career as an FBS HC at a top 5 school.

[The OTR]

I have no doubt that some athletes and/or family members take impermissible benefits.  I am also not so naive as to think there are not cover-ups.  However, I am very confident in saying that HCs, ADs, and compliance offices WILL NOT turn a blind-eye. 

you're wrong

[The OTR]

I have no doubt that some athletes and/or family members take impermissible benefits.  I am also not so naive as to think there are not cover-ups.  However, I am very confident in saying that HCs, ADs, and compliance offices WILL NOT turn a blind-eye. 

It's not like the old days where a coach was loyal to the university and the AD was just another administrator who wasn't graded based on performance.  These people MUST keep their reputation intact because of the show-cause penalties attached to them would be devastating to their career.

We have to look no further than Jim Tressel. Who didn't give impermissible benefits, he just overlooked them.  Cost him his career as an FBS HC at a top 5 school.

Jay Jacobs won't turn a blind eye!!? LOL!

LSU? They just hired one of the biggest cheaters in college football history

Bama is clean? you're delusional
Saban is clean? you're delusional

[LZH]

bull post Led?

An Ole Miss player admitted being paid on national TV during the NFL draft, and the NCAA has done nothing about it

bull post?

I don't care what you think your son's opinion would be, nor do I care about your son's opinion

[RollHogTide]

you're wrong

I am sure this thread will end in V&R -  I'm done, you're right.  I sure do hate to hear that we will be forfeiting all of those games and firing Saban.  But for the good of amateur sports someone has to take the fall.  It was great while it lasted - I guess I will start pulling for Vanderbilt.  Go Dores.

[The OTR]

??

LOL! Are you drunk?

[gawntrail]

you're wrong

Do you post selfies too?

[The OTR]

Do you post selfies too?

so what we know so far is, folks are so brazenly against Bielema here, they will openly defend cheaters from cheating

[HamSammich]

And this Is what  Jeff long fanatics are reduced to. They have nothing else.

[The OTR]

LOL, now it's becoming amateur hour

my bad, I already knew it was amateur hour

[Hollywood870]

so what we know so far is, folks are so brazenly against Bielema here, they will openly defend cheaters from cheating

I've been critical of Bielema since Saturday, but I've logged myself out. Just want to say I believe you. Also, I don't want us to start buying players. The thought of being another Ole Miss makes me sick. Do you think Tunsil really gave a damn about Ole Miss when he admitted to accepting money on ESPN at the draft. With Freeze there and everything? No thanks. I'll log back out now. I have no control over what goes on anyway. Good luck boys. Have at it.

[HamSammich]

LOL, now it's becoming amateur hour

my bad, I already knew it was amateur hour

Go play with your being Bret bielema doll noob.

[The OTR]

I've been critical of Bielema since Saturday, but I've logged myself out. Just want to say I believe you. Also, I don't want us to start buying players. The thought of being another Ole Miss makes me sick. Do you think Tunsil really gave a damn about Ole Miss when he admitted to accepting money on ESPN at the draft. With Freeze there and everything? No thanks. I'll log back out now. I have no control over what goes on anyway. Good luck boys. Have at it.

He didn't care at all. He was bought, so his allegiance was to the money. Honor among thieves. It does not exist.

Kudos

[gawntrail]

so what we know so far is, folks are so brazenly against Bielema here, they will openly defend cheaters from cheating

Since when is being critical of CBB = pro cheating?  I am brazenly against losing.  I am brazenly against looking foolish in prime time.  I am brazenly against chicks with hairy armpits.  I am brazenly against beta males with black rimmed glasses that have to seek acceptance from other beta males with black rimmed glasses.  I am uber brazenly against apologists.  And, I am brazenly against cooking red meat to be gray. 

So, again, do you post selfies too? 

[sickboy]

There are degrees of cheating at every school. Including Arkansas. It's part of the college ecosystem.

[The OTR]

Since when is being critical of CBB = pro cheating?  I am brazenly against losing.  I am brazenly against looking foolish in prime time.  I am brazenly against chicks with hairy armpits.  I am brazenly against beta males with black rimmed glasses that have to seek acceptance from other beta males with black rimmed glasses.  I am uber brazenly against apologists.  And, I am brazenly against cooking red meat to be gray. 

So, again, do you post selfies too?

since this thread

also, you are really weird

[Hawgey-Davidson]

For Gods sake where are the mods when you need them. Please OP, go argue with your wife. Oh wait, nevermind.

[The OTR]

For Gods sake where are the mods when you need them. Please OP, go argue with your wife. Oh wait, nevermind.

you're needing the mods right now - Jeff Long obviously would agree with me, not you, and so you need the mods

the mods will make it all better for you

I think I understand you now

[hogginbama]

Go play with your being Bret bielema doll noob.

We have reached new levels of insanity with a noob calling someone else a noob.