UCA coach would like Arkansas DI schools to play each other

[hawgyMcHawg]

http://5newsonline.com/Global/story.asp?S=7249994&nav=menu151_3

Didn't know if posted yet...interesting

[Chappeee]

And Lex Luthor wants a ponytail

[HoopS]

Somebody needs to shut him up.  PawPaw won't have it. 

Hmmmm

Dear Mr NAIA King....

[Hogs4Ever]

Maybe it will happen one day now that JFB will be out.  It will take an order from the legislature I think.

[ark30inf]

Frankly, I don't like I-A playing I-AA.  If a I-A school is gonna play a I-AA, it should be in-state.  But the I-A really ought to try to raise its sights.

[BigDeal]

I'm all for an UA - AState game. UCA hasn't earned it notches in the NCAA ranks yet.

[PolishPigPower]

I'm all for an UA - AState game. UCA hasn't earned it notches in the NCAA ranks yet.

But UT-Chattanooga certainly has...  Keep the $$$ in-state, guys.  What's it gonna hurt?

[UCABEARS75]

I'm all for an UA - AState game. UCA hasn't earned it notches in the NCAA ranks yet.

But UT-Chattanooga certainly has...  Keep the $$$ in-state, guys.  What's it gonna hurt?

Agreed.  p.s.  UCA is 1-0 lifetime vs. UT-Chattanooga.

That is all Coach Conque is saying.  If you are going to play the "rent-a-win" games, pay the rent to in state schools so that Arkansas football, college and high school, will grow.

Everyone will benefit, even UofA.

[PaleHorse]

Don't do it.  Don't do it.

[anthonytkr]

no

[HoopS]

So how many notches did South Florida have when we played them?  And by all means, I'd rather play a new D1 team than the UT-Chatts of the world. 

No need to be scared.  Texas plays against all of the little brothers there.  It is just funny that we can play North Texas, UTC, FIU but not ASU.

Why?

[hogfan064]

So how many notches did South Florida have when we played them?  And by all means, I'd rather play a new D1 team than the UT-Chatts of the world. 

No need to be scared.  Texas plays against all of the little brothers there.  It is just funny that we can play North Texas, UTC, FIU but not ASU.

Why?

Every SEC school plays small instate schools.  THere's no reason we shouldn't play ASU, UCA, or UAPB.

[Tripod1]

I'm all for an UA - AState game. UCA hasn't earned it notches in the NCAA ranks yet.

But UT-Chattanooga certainly has...  Keep the $$$ in-state, guys.  What's it gonna hurt?

Agreed.  p.s.  UCA is 1-0 lifetime vs. UT-Chattanooga.

That is all Coach Conque is saying.  If you are going to play the "rent-a-win" games, pay the rent to in state schools so that Arkansas football, college and high school, will grow.

Everyone will benefit, even UofA.

My thoughts exactly.  It just doesn't make sense to spend 625,000 to bring in a Fla. Int. team when we have schools right here in the state that would create alot of interest.  All I have heard is how terrible and weak our schedule is yet those same people will not concede to us getting away from the directional schools and playing a natural rival here in our state.  99 out of 100 times the Hogs will win so there is nothing to fear.

[Mark Lericos]

I remember getting ripped apart for suggesting Arkansas stop playing Sun Belt cupcakes (other than Troy thank you very much) out of state and play the in-state ones. It makes sense.

  Oh well....

[DickSonstreetDFW]

I used to be against it.

Now I am all for it.

It would be much more interesting to see UCA or ASU on the schedule instead of the current no-name patsies.

If we're really worried about losing games or recruits to either of these schools, we have serious problems.

[mike7156]

I say  play the instate schools, and make them the Little Rock games. That is a win for everyone. ASU every year and alternate between UCA and UAPB. Move all the SEC games to the hill.

[ark30inf]

I am all for playing ASU.....and for playing UCA rather than an out of state I-AA if we are going to play I-AA.  I am also for playing ASU in whichever stadium holds the most people in any given year be that Fayetteville, WM, Indian Stadium, or some new neutral stadium wherever that may be.  Which means it would be in Fayetteville for a long long time.

[cbjagman]

http://5newsonline.com/Global/story.asp?S=7249994&nav=menu151_3

Didn't know if posted yet...interesting

So what is the guy expected to say? Heck, he has totally nothing to lose by making such a statement. I'm sure UCA would LOVE to ride the gravy train of a U of A game all the way into the coffers of the Bears. Self-serving B.S.

[DriveByHogger]

I'm against playing any in state school, but if we are let them play for no fee at all at Fayetteville.

[TLFHAWG]

Sounds good.

[no one]

I don't think it is a good idea.  Arkansas is too small to have fans start having to decide which arkansas team to root for.  Right now people are hog fans and possible fans of ASU or whatever.  We need a solid, one state fan base.  That is one of the FEW things that set Arkansas apart. 

[Mark Lericos]

I don't think it is a good idea.  Arkansas is too small to have fans start having to decide which arkansas team to root for.  Right now people are hog fans and possible fans of ASU or whatever.  We need a solid, one state fan base.  That is one of the FEW things that set Arkansas apart. 

  Oh really? Clemson and South Carolina play in a state about the same size... and they play SC State, Wofford, Furman, Presbyterian, Coastal Carolina... any and all divisions and levels simple because they are in-state. And NO ONE will change teams because they play them. That argument is insane.

  The other schools in Arkansas can't compete at the Hogs level. It's apples and oranges. The simple fact is Arkansas is afraid to lose. And for that reason alone... shouldbe admonished publicly.  I think Conque is right on the money. Why throw 300,000 to UTC when you can throw it to UCA? What, are they gonna take your recruits? Please.

  If I was Arkansas, I'd be more worried about Kansas, Kentucky, Auburn, etc taking recruits. Because it's actually happening right now.

[Veritas Arkansas]

I'm all for an UA - AState game. UCA hasn't earned it notches in the NCAA ranks yet.

But UT-Chattanooga certainly has...  Keep the $$$ in-state, guys.  What's it gonna hurt?

My blood boils every time I hear this argument.  We pay UT-Chatt.  Texas pays ASU.  "Keeping the $$$ in-state" also would result in LOSING revenue from other states paying ASU, UAPB, UCA.  Now, saying that keeping the game here would generate more interest in the fans, more would pay to see it, and the city in which the game is hosted would gain economically is a different argument altogether.  Shame you're not making it. 

So how many notches did South Florida have when we played them?  And by all means, I'd rather play a new D1 team than the UT-Chatts of the world. 

No need to be scared.  Texas plays against all of the little brothers there.  It is just funny that we can play North Texas, UTC, FIU but not ASU.

Why?

Every SEC school plays small instate schools.  THere's no reason we shouldn't play ASU, UCA, or UAPB.

Also not true.  Someone did this analysis on the Arkansas Times Blog yesterday when discussing this same topic.

Alabama scheduled no lesser in-state school
Auburn didn't either
LSU scheduled Tulane and La. Tech
Ole Miss scheduled no lesser in-state school (unless you count Miss. St.)
MSU scheduled no lesser in-state school (unless you count Ole Miss)
Florida plays Florida Atlantic
Georgia scheduled no lesser in-state school
Kentucky scheduled Eastern Kentucky
S. Carolina scheduled South Carolina State
Tenn. scheduled no lesser in-state school (they have to play Vandy)
Vandy scheduled no lesser in-state school

So, only 4 out of 12 schools voluntarily played a lesser in-state school.  Your analysis fails.

Now, as opposed as I am to playing ASU (well, not so much opposed to the idea, but opposed to the boneheaded arguments people make in favor of it), I would fully support a compromise where UA and ASU play every year in LR, and there are no more home games in WMS (I'm tired of peeing in a trough).  When it took 5 hours to get from LR to Fayetteville, it made sense.  Now...not so much.  Drive the extra 2.5 hours, get a hotel room, and enjoy your weekend.

[Mark Lericos]

I'm all for an UA - AState game. UCA hasn't earned it notches in the NCAA ranks yet.

But UT-Chattanooga certainly has...  Keep the $$$ in-state, guys.  What's it gonna hurt?

My blood boils every time I hear this argument.  We pay UT-Chatt.  Texas pays ASU.  "Keeping the $$$ in-state" also would result in LOSING revenue from other states paying ASU, UAPB, UCA.  Now, saying that keeping the game here would generate more interest in the fans, more would pay to see it, and the city in which the game is hosted would gain economically is a different argument altogether.  Shame you're not making it. 

So how many notches did South Florida have when we played them?  And by all means, I'd rather play a new D1 team than the UT-Chatts of the world. 

No need to be scared.  Texas plays against all of the little brothers there.  It is just funny that we can play North Texas, UTC, FIU but not ASU.

Why?

Every SEC school plays small instate schools.  THere's no reason we shouldn't play ASU, UCA, or UAPB.

Also not true.  Someone did this analysis on the Arkansas Times Blog yesterday when discussing this same topic.

Alabama scheduled no lesser in-state school
Auburn didn't either
LSU scheduled Tulane and La. Tech
Ole Miss scheduled no lesser in-state school (unless you count Miss. St.)
MSU scheduled no lesser in-state school (unless you count Ole Miss)
Florida plays Florida Atlantic
Georgia scheduled no lesser in-state school
Kentucky scheduled Eastern Kentucky
S. Carolina scheduled South Carolina State
Tenn. scheduled no lesser in-state school (they have to play Vandy)
Vandy scheduled no lesser in-state school

So, only 4 out of 12 schools voluntarily played a lesser in-state school.  Your analysis fails.

Now, as opposed as I am to playing ASU (well, not so much opposed to the idea, but opposed to the boneheaded arguments people make in favor of it), I would fully support a compromise where UA and ASU play every year in LR, and there are no more home games in WMS (I'm tired of peeing in a trough).  When it took 5 hours to get from LR to Fayetteville, it made sense.  Now...not so much.  Drive the extra 2.5 hours, get a hotel room, and enjoy your weekend.

  Actually throughout the years, Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee, Georgia, Florida all play in-state schools. Mississippi doesn't have a lot of options, but Auburn has played Troy (nearly lost), and UAB. They've done it before... so you can't base it on one year. Just sayin... 

[Mark Lericos]

You're also forgetting some teams have in-state rivals that take up a game;  Georgia plays Georgia Tech, Kentucky plays Louisville. Tennessee has been playing Memphis, Florida vs. Florida State, etc.  Arkansas has no excuse.

[chiefsfan]

I don't think it is a good idea.  Arkansas is too small to have fans start having to decide which arkansas team to root for.  Right now people are hog fans and possible fans of ASU or whatever.  We need a solid, one state fan base.  That is one of the FEW things that set Arkansas apart. 

not really, Minnesota has a united fan base.   Of course they have only 1 D1 school in the state anyway.   The difference is that in sports other then football, there are 5 D1 schools in the state.   4 of them play each other on a decent basis.   1 of them refuses to acknowledge the other 4 exist

I dont try to make arguments for arkansas playing ASU or UCA, because after looking at the schedule this year it makes too much logical sense

ASU or UCA will fill up Razorback or War Memorial or wherever stadium you play them.   Fans would be excited about the game, because its something new that this state hasnt seen before.   And most of all, ASU or UCA come a whole lot cheaper then the likes of North Texas Florida International or Tennessee Chatanooga

If Arkansas is worried about losing recruits to a Sun Belt School, or a 1AA transitional school, then they have many more problems then most of us would ever think

[chiefsfan]

I'm all for an UA - AState game. UCA hasn't earned it notches in the NCAA ranks yet.

But UT-Chattanooga certainly has...  Keep the $$$ in-state, guys.  What's it gonna hurt?

My blood boils every time I hear this argument.  We pay UT-Chatt.  Texas pays ASU.  "Keeping the $$$ in-state" also would result in LOSING revenue from other states paying ASU, UAPB, UCA.  Now, saying that keeping the game here would generate more interest in the fans, more would pay to see it, and the city in which the game is hosted would gain economically is a different argument altogether.  Shame you're not making it. 

So how many notches did South Florida have when we played them?  And by all means, I'd rather play a new D1 team than the UT-Chatts of the world. 

No need to be scared.  Texas plays against all of the little brothers there.  It is just funny that we can play North Texas, UTC, FIU but not ASU.

Why?

Every SEC school plays small instate schools.  THere's no reason we shouldn't play ASU, UCA, or UAPB.

Also not true.  Someone did this analysis on the Arkansas Times Blog yesterday when discussing this same topic.

Alabama scheduled no lesser in-state school
Auburn didn't either
LSU scheduled Tulane and La. Tech
Ole Miss scheduled no lesser in-state school (unless you count Miss. St.)
MSU scheduled no lesser in-state school (unless you count Ole Miss)
Florida plays Florida Atlantic
Georgia scheduled no lesser in-state school
Kentucky scheduled Eastern Kentucky
S. Carolina scheduled South Carolina State
Tenn. scheduled no lesser in-state school (they have to play Vandy)
Vandy scheduled no lesser in-state school

So, only 4 out of 12 schools voluntarily played a lesser in-state school.  Your analysis fails.

Now, as opposed as I am to playing ASU (well, not so much opposed to the idea, but opposed to the boneheaded arguments people make in favor of it), I would fully support a compromise where UA and ASU play every year in LR, and there are no more home games in WMS (I'm tired of peeing in a trough).  When it took 5 hours to get from LR to Fayetteville, it made sense.  Now...not so much.  Drive the extra 2.5 hours, get a hotel room, and enjoy your weekend.

  Actually throughout the years, Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee, Georgia, Florida all play in-state schools. Mississippi doesn't have a lot of options, but Auburn has played Troy (nearly lost), and UAB. They've done it before... so you can't base it on one year. Just sayin... 

Whoever did that anaylisis didnt go back very far.   Auburn and Alabama both play instate schools in most sports every year, they just didnt in football this year.

The only other policy like Arkansas that is around in this conference is the unwritten policy that says Ole Miss or Miss State will never play Southern Miss in football.  And its not a policy Southern Miss fans like either...   

[War Warthog]

I don't think it is a good idea.  Arkansas is too small to have fans start having to decide which arkansas team to root for.  Right now people are hog fans and possible fans of ASU or whatever.  We need a solid, one state fan base.  That is one of the FEW things that set Arkansas apart. 

I think DMW has split the fan base all by himself.

[IronHog]

http://5newsonline.com/Global/story.asp?S=7249994&nav=menu151_3

Didn't know if posted yet...interesting

I love Lou Hardin.  He is picking at the wounds that are festering on the UofA football program for good reason.

Conque knows he can't beat the D1 teams, but if he could get his super QB on the field against Arkansas or AState and bust a few plays out of the Bears high octane offense it would do wonders for the UCA program.

For those of you who have not seen UCA's quarterback Nathan Brown he is an outstanding college QB who would start for the majority of D1 teams no problem.

[HawgPilot]

I used to be against it.

Now I am all for it.

It would be much more interesting to see UCA or ASU on the schedule instead of the current no-name patsies.

If we're really worried about losing games or recruits to either of these schools, we have serious problems.

I concur...

[UrsisHoribilis]

You're also forgetting some teams have in-state rivals that take up a game;  Georgia plays Georgia Tech, Kentucky plays Louisville. Tennessee has been playing Memphis, Florida vs. Florida State, etc.  Arkansas has no excuse.

Too many people are still under the spell of JFB.  Now that he is slowly leaving, in several years when the die-hards have passed the way of Frank, maybe then...

[selfexplanatory]

I went to ASU and used to be against the idea, but hell why not schedule an away game in Little Rock against one of the in-state schools and move the other LR game to Fayetteville?

[Veritas Arkansas]

I'm all for an UA - AState game. UCA hasn't earned it notches in the NCAA ranks yet.

But UT-Chattanooga certainly has...  Keep the $$$ in-state, guys.  What's it gonna hurt?

My blood boils every time I hear this argument.  We pay UT-Chatt.  Texas pays ASU.  "Keeping the $$$ in-state" also would result in LOSING revenue from other states paying ASU, UAPB, UCA.  Now, saying that keeping the game here would generate more interest in the fans, more would pay to see it, and the city in which the game is hosted would gain economically is a different argument altogether.  Shame you're not making it. 

So how many notches did South Florida have when we played them?  And by all means, I'd rather play a new D1 team than the UT-Chatts of the world. 

No need to be scared.  Texas plays against all of the little brothers there.  It is just funny that we can play North Texas, UTC, FIU but not ASU.

Why?

Every SEC school plays small instate schools.  THere's no reason we shouldn't play ASU, UCA, or UAPB.

Also not true.  Someone did this analysis on the Arkansas Times Blog yesterday when discussing this same topic.

Alabama scheduled no lesser in-state school
Auburn didn't either
LSU scheduled Tulane and La. Tech
Ole Miss scheduled no lesser in-state school (unless you count Miss. St.)
MSU scheduled no lesser in-state school (unless you count Ole Miss)
Florida plays Florida Atlantic
Georgia scheduled no lesser in-state school
Kentucky scheduled Eastern Kentucky
S. Carolina scheduled South Carolina State
Tenn. scheduled no lesser in-state school (they have to play Vandy)
Vandy scheduled no lesser in-state school

So, only 4 out of 12 schools voluntarily played a lesser in-state school.  Your analysis fails.

Now, as opposed as I am to playing ASU (well, not so much opposed to the idea, but opposed to the boneheaded arguments people make in favor of it), I would fully support a compromise where UA and ASU play every year in LR, and there are no more home games in WMS (I'm tired of peeing in a trough).  When it took 5 hours to get from LR to Fayetteville, it made sense.  Now...not so much.  Drive the extra 2.5 hours, get a hotel room, and enjoy your weekend.

  Actually throughout the years, Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee, Georgia, Florida all play in-state schools. Mississippi doesn't have a lot of options, but Auburn has played Troy (nearly lost), and UAB. They've done it before... so you can't base it on one year. Just sayin... 

Whoever did that anaylisis didnt go back very far.   Auburn and Alabama both play instate schools in most sports every year, they just didnt in football this year.

The only other policy like Arkansas that is around in this conference is the unwritten policy that says Ole Miss or Miss State will never play Southern Miss in football.  And its not a policy Southern Miss fans like either...   

In the past, we've played UCA, UA-Montecello, Harding, Henderson, and Fort Smith High.

What's your point?

And to people saying that there exist other in-state rivals, Kentucky plays Louisville, UGA plays GA Tech, etc...those are all games between teams of (more or less) comparable talent level.  Ie, a rivalry develops.  You can't have a rivalry where one side routinely beats down the other 95% of the time, it just doesn't work.  Otherwise, there'd be a trophy for the winner of the LSU/Tulane game.

[silverhawg]

How bout we play all of the teams in the SEC first !!!!

[hogfan064]

I'm all for an UA - AState game. UCA hasn't earned it notches in the NCAA ranks yet.

But UT-Chattanooga certainly has...  Keep the $$$ in-state, guys.  What's it gonna hurt?

My blood boils every time I hear this argument.  We pay UT-Chatt.  Texas pays ASU.  "Keeping the $$$ in-state" also would result in LOSING revenue from other states paying ASU, UAPB, UCA.  Now, saying that keeping the game here would generate more interest in the fans, more would pay to see it, and the city in which the game is hosted would gain economically is a different argument altogether.  Shame you're not making it. 

So how many notches did South Florida have when we played them?  And by all means, I'd rather play a new D1 team than the UT-Chatts of the world. 

No need to be scared.  Texas plays against all of the little brothers there.  It is just funny that we can play North Texas, UTC, FIU but not ASU.

Why?

Every SEC school plays small instate schools.  THere's no reason we shouldn't play ASU, UCA, or UAPB.

Also not true.  Someone did this analysis on the Arkansas Times Blog yesterday when discussing this same topic.

Alabama scheduled no lesser in-state school
Auburn didn't either
LSU scheduled Tulane and La. Tech
Ole Miss scheduled no lesser in-state school (unless you count Miss. St.)
MSU scheduled no lesser in-state school (unless you count Ole Miss)
Florida plays Florida Atlantic
Georgia scheduled no lesser in-state school
Kentucky scheduled Eastern Kentucky
S. Carolina scheduled South Carolina State
Tenn. scheduled no lesser in-state school (they have to play Vandy)
Vandy scheduled no lesser in-state school

So, only 4 out of 12 schools voluntarily played a lesser in-state school.  Your analysis fails.

Now, as opposed as I am to playing ASU (well, not so much opposed to the idea, but opposed to the boneheaded arguments people make in favor of it), I would fully support a compromise where UA and ASU play every year in LR, and there are no more home games in WMS (I'm tired of peeing in a trough).  When it took 5 hours to get from LR to Fayetteville, it made sense.  Now...not so much.  Drive the extra 2.5 hours, get a hotel room, and enjoy your weekend.

Auburn and Alabama both play instate schools in basketball and baseball. 

South Carolina has scheduled Furman, SC State, Citadel, and Wofford for the next 7-8 years

LSU plays Tulane and LT this year and just last year played ULL. 

Tennessee plays Memphis every few years

Vandy has played MTSU a couple times this decade

Ole Miss has played Southern Miss in the last 25 years

MSU has played Southern Miss in the last 20 years

Kentucky has played Eastern Kentucky in football within the last couple years(maybe this year)

Florida has played UCF last year in football

Georgia played Georgia Southern about 5 years ago.

Other Southern Schools

NC State played App State last year and ECU this year

UNC played ECU this year

Miami has played FAMU recently

Every Southern school plays a small instate school in basketball and baseball.  Heck, South Carolina will play basketballl at The Citadel every few years.   In baseball both USC and Clemson have played at Wofford, Furman, The Citadel, CofC, and Coastal in the last 5 years. 

[hogfan064]

I'm all for an UA - AState game. UCA hasn't earned it notches in the NCAA ranks yet.

But UT-Chattanooga certainly has...  Keep the $$$ in-state, guys.  What's it gonna hurt?

My blood boils every time I hear this argument.  We pay UT-Chatt.  Texas pays ASU.  "Keeping the $$$ in-state" also would result in LOSING revenue from other states paying ASU, UAPB, UCA.  Now, saying that keeping the game here would generate more interest in the fans, more would pay to see it, and the city in which the game is hosted would gain economically is a different argument altogether.  Shame you're not making it. 

So how many notches did South Florida have when we played them?  And by all means, I'd rather play a new D1 team than the UT-Chatts of the world. 

No need to be scared.  Texas plays against all of the little brothers there.  It is just funny that we can play North Texas, UTC, FIU but not ASU.

Why?

Every SEC school plays small instate schools.  THere's no reason we shouldn't play ASU, UCA, or UAPB.

Also not true.  Someone did this analysis on the Arkansas Times Blog yesterday when discussing this same topic.

Alabama scheduled no lesser in-state school
Auburn didn't either
LSU scheduled Tulane and La. Tech
Ole Miss scheduled no lesser in-state school (unless you count Miss. St.)
MSU scheduled no lesser in-state school (unless you count Ole Miss)
Florida plays Florida Atlantic
Georgia scheduled no lesser in-state school
Kentucky scheduled Eastern Kentucky
S. Carolina scheduled South Carolina State
Tenn. scheduled no lesser in-state school (they have to play Vandy)
Vandy scheduled no lesser in-state school

So, only 4 out of 12 schools voluntarily played a lesser in-state school.  Your analysis fails.

Now, as opposed as I am to playing ASU (well, not so much opposed to the idea, but opposed to the boneheaded arguments people make in favor of it), I would fully support a compromise where UA and ASU play every year in LR, and there are no more home games in WMS (I'm tired of peeing in a trough).  When it took 5 hours to get from LR to Fayetteville, it made sense.  Now...not so much.  Drive the extra 2.5 hours, get a hotel room, and enjoy your weekend.

  Actually throughout the years, Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee, Georgia, Florida all play in-state schools. Mississippi doesn't have a lot of options, but Auburn has played Troy (nearly lost), and UAB. They've done it before... so you can't base it on one year. Just sayin... 

Whoever did that anaylisis didnt go back very far.   Auburn and Alabama both play instate schools in most sports every year, they just didnt in football this year.

The only other policy like Arkansas that is around in this conference is the unwritten policy that says Ole Miss or Miss State will never play Southern Miss in football.  And its not a policy Southern Miss fans like either...  

In the past, we've played UCA, UA-Montecello, Harding, Henderson, and Fort Smith High.

What's your point?

And to people saying that there exist other in-state rivals, Kentucky plays Louisville, UGA plays GA Tech, etc...those are all games between teams of (more or less) comparable talent level.  Ie, a rivalry develops.  You can't have a rivalry where one side routinely beats down the other 95% of the time, it just doesn't work.  Otherwise, there'd be a trophy for the winner of the LSU/Tulane game.

Arkansas played all those schools 60 years ago.  That arguement fails

Georgia does play GT, but it also has played Georgia Southern in the last 5 years in football.  Kentucky played EKU in 1998.  So another of your arguements fail.

[nahnahrenee]

I think UCA vs. ASU would be the first step.

[alaskanstorm]

I'm all for UCA and ASU starting a rivalry.  It would create more of an interest amongst kid in eastern and central Arkansas and help both schools recruiting.  

[Veritas Arkansas]

"That argument fails."

No it doesn't.  An above poster said that teams have "historically" played smaller schools.  Big freakin deal.  So has Arkansas. 

Look, it wouldn't really bother me if this happened.  I'd go, I'd cheer, and I'd patronize ASU fans for being ASU fans.  But those that get so riled up, and those that say "keep the money in state," and those that say "every other school does it so should we...", drive me up the wall.  UA has no moral obligation to do this.

The only decent argument for this is that an UA - ASU game would be more exciting than N. Texas, UL - You Pick 'Em, or F_U, and that I'll buy.  As a result, that game will always fill up. 

As for developing a rivalry?  Pfft.  Not gonna happen.  ASU will think it is, but most of Hognation wouldn't be any more excited than if we beat Troy.

When it comes to the even smaller schools - UCA, UAPB, Hendrix (if they bring back their football team as rumored), talk to me when they're D1-FBS or whatever they're calling it.  There's no excuse for a BCS conference team to play a FCS team.  Ever.

[hogfan064]

"That argument fails."

No it doesn't.  An above poster said that teams have "historically" played smaller schools.  Big freakin deal.  So has Arkansas. 

The SEC teams have played small instate schools in the last 5 years.  Arkansas hasn't in the last 60.  If you can't see where your arguement fails then I feel for you.

[Veritas Arkansas]

"That argument fails."

No it doesn't.  An above poster said that teams have "historically" played smaller schools.  Big freakin deal.  So has Arkansas. 

The SEC teams have played small instate schools in the last 5 years.  Arkansas hasn't in the last 60.  If you can't see where your arguement fails then I feel for you.

We're arguing semantics.  The poster said "historically," and that means at any point throughout Arkansas's history, which we have done.  If he said "recently," it'd be a different story.

[Hawgasaurus]

I'd like to see U of A play ASU, but UCA can go play with themselves...

[nahnahrenee]

I'd like to see U of A play ASU, but UCA can go play with themselves...

I see your point but the only problem is UCA is putting out a better product than ASU right now.

[hogfan064]

"That argument fails."

No it doesn't.  An above poster said that teams have "historically" played smaller schools.  Big freakin deal.  So has Arkansas. 

The SEC teams have played small instate schools in the last 5 years.  Arkansas hasn't in the last 60.  If you can't see where your arguement fails then I feel for you.

We're arguing semantics.  The poster said "historically," and that means at any point throughout Arkansas's history, which we have done.  If he said "recently," it'd be a different story.

I understand that, but the what we did 60 years ago means nothing.  We have a policy not to play an instate school in any major sport.  No other SEC school has a policy like that. 

I'm not even calling for it in football(although I think we should).  Why not baseball?  Playing an early march series against ASU would pack Baum.  Much better than playing Illinois-Chicago or Northern Colorado don't you think?  It would bring in more money for UA!!   

[dmac4sainthood]

I'm ok with it in BB, UA can play ASU, UALR, UCA, and UAPB...in football, UA can play ASU.  UAPB and UCA should play, ASU and UCA...maybe

[Hawgasaurus]

I'd like to see U of A play ASU, but UCA can go play with themselves...

I see your point but the only problem is UCA is putting out a better product than ASU right now.

At least ASU was in a bowl game.

[hogfan064]

I'm ok with it in BB, UA can play ASU, UALR, UCA, and UAPB...in football, UA can play ASU.  UAPB and UCA should play, ASU and UCA...maybe

In baseball and basketball its a good $$ move for UA.  It would be a sure sellout and we don't have to offer a payout to any instate school to play them in those sports. 

[Veritas Arkansas]

Have you been to b

I'm ok with it in BB, UA can play ASU, UALR, UCA, and UAPB...in football, UA can play ASU.  UAPB and UCA should play, ASU and UCA...maybe

In baseball and basketball its a good $$ move for UA.  It would be a sure sellout and we don't have to offer a payout to any instate school to play them in those sports. 

Have you been to Baum?  We could be playing a little league team from Alaska and it'd still be packed.

[hogfan064]

Have you been to b

I'm ok with it in BB, UA can play ASU, UALR, UCA, and UAPB...in football, UA can play ASU.  UAPB and UCA should play, ASU and UCA...maybe

In baseball and basketball its a good $$ move for UA.  It would be a sure sellout and we don't have to offer a payout to any instate school to play them in those sports. 

Have you been to Baum?  We could be playing a little league team from Alaska and it'd still be packed.

Not true.  The early season series don't have all games sold out.  Even many of the SEC series this year had tons of empty seats in them.  Yes, our attendance is very high, but not every game is packed

[phadedhawg]

I'd rather be playing Ark State Saturday that that Florida Int...

I might actually go to that game....

Until Nutt is gone...GO INDIANS!!