Tubby watch continues at Auburn

[Karma]

1. If you oust TT after an outstanding record, why would another top-rated coach go there? Could they do better than TT? It would be very difficult, especially in the current environment.

2. TT would have been a great fit at Clemson, but that horse has left the barn.

3. Mississippi State is a tough place to win because of issues such as its location, recruiting base and facilities, and TT would be smart to find a better job elsewhere. His record is great, and he should have no problem finding a top job at a decent school, a la Ron Zook landing at Illinois and Houston Nutt at Ole Miss.

4. The SEC West can be thankful for TT leaving. Whoever they hire is likely to be less of a power than TT. It seems doubtful that the transition can be seamless.

5. Why again would Auburn fire this outstanding coach?

From the outside it looks like this, similar to what outsiders said about Arkansas last year. But we know it had to happen. I suspect Auburn feels the same.

[Tusks]

getting a good coach at auburn wont be an issue....they have a history of them.....$ $ and the SEC will draw a great coach.....$ $ is what makes the world go around.

I mean look at Bama...you could say the samething...why would a coach want to go there after Dubose and Shula.....people though the AD was crazy and then boom....huge $ $ $ and Saben walks through the door.

A school has to have the $ $ first....if they have that....they'll get a coach.

[tcolinm]

getting a good coach at auburn wont be an issue....they have a history of them.....$ $ and the SEC will draw a great coach.....$ $ is what makes the world go around.

I mean look at Bama...you could say the samething...why would a coach want to go there after Dubose and Shula.....people though the AD was crazy and then boom....huge $ $ $ and Saben walks through the door.

A school has to have the $ $ first....if they have that....they'll get a coach.

Very good point sir... they just have to make a super hire to keep recruits away from Saban. If not, Saban's fence around bama could get stronger

[bellavistamike]

While I don't follow AU, or most other schools closely, I wonder out loud why Auburn folks feel Tubby has to go quite so loudly. He has won, beat thier chief rival (7-3 vs "Bama), ran a clean program and seems like a pretty decent guy. What, he can't have an off year? If this was year 2 or 3 of hard times I could understand the fire the coach topic. For a couple years around here we all said we'd like a coach who wins most of his games, has us in the position to compete for a title most years, and is a decent guy. I say if AU fires Tubs, they may really regret it down the road because that's the kind of guy they have right now.

[SRFL]

I don't see Sexton placing both Nutt and Tubs in Mississippi.  Tubs and Sexton will go for a better school and payday.

[WilsonHog]

While I don't follow AU, or most other schools closely, I wonder out loud why Auburn folks feel Tubby has to go quite so loudly. He has won, beat thier chief rival (7-3 vs "Bama), ran a clean program and seems like a pretty decent guy. What, he can't have an off year? If this was year 2 or 3 of hard times I could understand the fire the coach topic. For a couple years around here we all said we'd like a coach who wins most of his games, has us in the position to compete for a title most years, and is a decent guy. I say if AU fires Tubs, they may really regret it down the road because that's the kind of guy they have right now.

Because of who Tuberville isn't.

Namely, Nick Saban.

[hogsanity]

While I don't follow AU, or most other schools closely, I wonder out loud why Auburn folks feel Tubby has to go quite so loudly. He has won, beat thier chief rival (7-3 vs "Bama), ran a clean program and seems like a pretty decent guy. What, he can't have an off year? If this was year 2 or 3 of hard times I could understand the fire the coach topic. For a couple years around here we all said we'd like a coach who wins most of his games, has us in the position to compete for a title most years, and is a decent guy. I say if AU fires Tubs, they may really regret it down the road because that's the kind of guy they have right now.

He plays "boring" defense first, smashmouth football.  People dont seem to care anymore if that wins games.

[WilsonHog]

He plays "boring" defense first, smashmouth football.  People dont seem to care anymore if that wins games.

That has zero to do with it. Auburn has played that way for years, and Alabama still plays that way.

Saban has turned up the heat and raised the expectations in Alabama. Winning isn't enough if it doesn't match what Saban is accomplishing.   

[GolfnHog]

He plays "boring" defense first, smashmouth football.  People dont seem to care anymore if that wins games.

They may come to regret that sentiment over  the next couple of years as they try and transition into a new system.

[HotlantaHog]

If Arkansas got roasted for firing a coach that won half his games (and the majority of those were Mississippi, Mississippi State and South Carolina), Auburn should be rightly raked over the coals if they get rid of TT.

For anyone comparing TT and TCTWF, look at their records! TT has been outstanding and exemplified success. TCTWF exemplified mediocrity. There is no comparison. Anyone doing their homework should realize this.

[tcolinm]

I think TT being fired has more to do with Saban's win-loss record this year than his own...

[pitbull1]

Well, we know ND is not getting rid of Charlie Wiess, at least thats what they're saying today.  If TT is out,  I could see him sitting out this year and possibly seeing what LSU is doing next year.  If Miles has one more bad season I see him gone.

[hog_fan]

If Arkansas got roasted for firing a coach that won half his games (and the majority of those were Mississippi, Mississippi State and South Carolina), Auburn should be rightly raked over the coals if they get rid of TT.

For anyone comparing TT and TCTWF, look at their records! TT has been outstanding and exemplified success. TCTWF exemplified mediocrity. There is no comparison. Anyone doing their homework should realize this.

They will be praised. Tubs and Bowden both fired and both almost hired at Arkansas last season. Auburn should have let Tubby come here and then they could have got Petrino

I be tthose idiot fans bring up Petrino's name.

[razorbrass]

If Arkansas got roasted for firing a coach that won half his games (and the majority of those were Mississippi, Mississippi State and South Carolina), Auburn should be rightly raked over the coals if they get rid of TT.

For anyone comparing TT and TCTWF, look at their records! TT has been outstanding and exemplified success. TCTWF exemplified mediocrity. There is no comparison. Anyone doing their homework should realize this.

Ah yes, but what is Auburn's potential?  You see we here in poor little Arkansas should just be happy we know what football is.

[SRFL]

If Arkansas got roasted for firing a coach that won half his games (and the majority of those were Mississippi, Mississippi State and South Carolina), Auburn should be rightly raked over the coals if they get rid of TT.

For anyone comparing TT and TCTWF, look at their records! TT has been outstanding and exemplified success. TCTWF exemplified mediocrity. There is no comparison. Anyone doing their homework should realize this.

They (and the media) will likely cite losing ground to SaBama and needed to inject change into the system to preserve their rightful spot in Alabama and the SEC.  Usual rhetoric.


Just saw that Muschamp's agent is Sexton as well.  If anyone knows how to negotiate with AU (and Will), it's Jimmy.  Could get interesting.

[NWASooner]

Not that I'm a huge Tuberville fan but who are they going to get that's better?  When you spin the Wheel of Coaches, things can (and do) get worse.

Muschamp would be a fool to go there.  Texas is twice the job Auburn is.

[pitbull1]

Yeah, but Mack Brown is not going to retire anytime soon.  He could make a statement at Auburn, then always come back to Texas later in his career.

[GWFan]

Everything else aside, Auburn literally got OWNED by Alabama Sat, and that didn't help matters for Tuberville.

[GWFan]

Yeah, but Mack Brown is not going to retire anytime soon.  He could make a statement at Auburn, then always come back to Texas later in his career.

It's funny how we sometimes get to thinking we can control careers like it's a board game.

Wonder if "later in his career" the coach that happens to be at Tex will step down so Muschamp can do that?  Hehe.  Funny stuff.

[pitbull1]

Well all I'm saying is if Muschamp came to Auburn and did bring them back, and made them a powerhouse again, then when it was time for Texas to look for another coach, they would probably look at Muschamp.  I just think it will be a while before Mack Brown is going to retire. 

[cbjagman]

If Arkansas got roasted for firing a coach that won half his games (and the majority of those were Mississippi, Mississippi State and South Carolina), Auburn should be rightly raked over the coals if they get rid of TT.

For anyone comparing TT and TCTWF, look at their records! TT has been outstanding and exemplified success. TCTWF exemplified mediocrity. There is no comparison. Anyone doing their homework should realize this.

Well one would also have to consider the number of "moral victories" Hooter has accomplished in his last 10+ years. There's NO ONE who can come close. In fact, he's earned a NC in this division every year he's coached!!!!

[Tigerloather]

I be tthose idiot fans bring up Petrino's name.

I was just thinking the same thing.  They've gone after him before.

[HOGINTENNESSEE]

Well all I'm saying is if Muschamp came to Auburn and did bring them back, and made them a powerhouse again, then when it was time for Texas to look for another coach, they would probably look at Muschamp.  I just think it will be a while before Mack Brown is going to retire. 

Muschamp is sitting on a gold mind and he knows.  At Texas he can get whatever recruits he wants, plus he will only have to play one to two big games a year.  Auburn is a good job but Texas is a 100x better and worth waiting for.

I don't think Texas would take him back if he left now.

[razorbrass]

  Crazy thought.

If Tubbs is looking for a job maybe he would like to come back home and be Defensive coordinator for Petrino.  That would be some kind of interesting.  Don't know what their relationship is after Plane gate but we could do a lot worse for a defensive coordinator than Tubbs.

[SRFL]

Well all I'm saying is if Muschamp came to Auburn and did bring them back, and made them a powerhouse again, then when it was time for Texas to look for another coach, they would probably look at Muschamp.  I just think it will be a while before Mack Brown is going to retire. 

The likely progression would be for Dodds to retire and Brown to succeed him as AD, moving Will to HC.  That is an unknown for all intents and purposes.  Dodds has not been firm on when he will retire which leaves the other moves in limbo.

If Auburn and Sexton brought the money to the table for Will to consider, what would he do?  Take 900K to sit and wait of 2.6MM to do what he desires...now?

Texas doesn't hold that type of football aura IMO.  One that will make a hungry young coach just sit and observe when a SEC major wants him to compete immediately.  That would be very tough to walk away from.  IMO.

[SigHog87]

Tuberville is Church of Christ though........that wouldn't fly in Catholicville.

So it flew in Methodistville? I don't think Religion matters...

ND is keeping Weis though (hahahahahaha)

[SigHog87]

Crazy thought.

If Tubbs is looking for a job maybe he would like to come back home and be Defensive coordinator for Petrino.  That would be some kind of interesting.  Don't know what their relationship is after Plane gate but we could do a lot worse for a defensive coordinator than Tubbs.

Your right... that is a very crazy thought.

[hog_fan]

So it flew in Methodistville? I don't think Religion matters...

ND is keeping Weis though (hahahahahaha)

Considering that I will say some Church of Christ people think Catholics are going to hell that wouldn't work out to well.

[JoyDivision]

Paul Finebaum had Hooten on his show and quizzed him extensively about being a candidate.

You know Hooten....always out for Hooten.

Ole Miss fans beware.  You've been warned.

Hooten would not walk into that trap.

[psooie]

I would think WM would wait on texas...now if it was UGA calling he probably gives the upside down horn gesture to ut but auburn? no way.

[donewithdale]

Because of who Tuberville isn't.

Namely, Nick Saban.

Yep, they have Saban panic.  It started this past offseason even though they had beaten Bama 6 straight times.  What insecurity. 


As far as TT to Ms St, I would love to see it for one reason and that is because he would keep and probably even increase Ms St's dominance over Ole Miss in recruiting.  But I would hate to have him at Ms St because they would get better.


TT is a great SEC coach having rebuilt 2 programs.  Maybe Auburn knows of an option we don't whose resume demands Saban money and they are willing to pay it. 


Houston wouldn't go to Auburn.  One, its a rebuild and not a program ready to win next season.  And two, he wouldn't be able to be proclaimed a hall of fame legendary coach for going 8-4 and choking to Vandy at home.  His ego would not be fed well enough. 

[SquidBilly]

Tuberville is Church of Christ though........that wouldn't fly in Catholicville.

Nothing wrong with that.  I'm Church of Christ too but I work for a company that is much more liberal than what the Church of Christ would ever support.  Where you work doesn't always have to match your beliefs.  He could coach at Notre dame without having to throw his support behind catholicism.

[Wild Bill Hog]

Nothing wrong with that.  I'm Church of Christ too but I work for a company that is much more liberal than what the Church of Christ would ever support.  Where you work doesn't always have to match your beliefs.  He could coach at Notre dame without having to throw his support behind catholicism.

Ara Parseghian wasn't Catholic, and he was loved at ND.  Like anyplace else, it's all about W's and L's.

[Oklahawg]

Rich Rodriquez might like a new home.

Mike Leach. Gary Pinkel.

Several "big" names that might like a move.

I don't rule out Muschamps. In fact, I think he'd be the favorite.

[MJ2]

They may come to regret that sentiment over  the next couple of years as they try and transition into a new system.

Didn't Chuck Barrett say it will take 10 years to recover from firing Tubby?   Oh, that was Nutty...

[Simple Swineman]

1. If you oust TT after an outstanding record, why would another top-rated coach go there? Could they do better than TT? It would be very difficult, especially in the current environment.

2. TT would have been a great fit at Clemson, but that horse has left the barn.

3. Mississippi State is a tough place to win because of issues such as its location, recruiting base and facilities, and TT would be smart to find a better job elsewhere. His record is great, and he should have no problem finding a top job at a decent school, a la Ron Zook landing at Illinois and Houston Nutt at Ole Miss.

4. The SEC West can be thankful for TT leaving. Whoever they hire is likely to be less of a power than TT. It seems doubtful that the transition can be seamless.

5. Why again would Auburn fire this outstanding coach?

Sounds almost exactly like what everybody said about Arkansas last year. We will never be able to get a big name coach to come here.... Who would want to go coach with all those crazy fans.... Why would they run off such a great coach.... They'll never be able to get anybody better.... blah, blah, blah

On the other hand, Tubberville actually is a proven winner. The Auburn fans are just in panic mode with what Saban has put together.

[GuvHog]

1. If you oust TT after an outstanding record, why would another top-rated coach go there? Could they do better than TT? It would be very difficult, especially in the current environment.

2. TT would have been a great fit at Clemson, but that horse has left the barn.

3. Mississippi State is a tough place to win because of issues such as its location, recruiting base and facilities, and TT would be smart to find a better job elsewhere. His record is great, and he should have no problem finding a top job at a decent school, a la Ron Zook landing at Illinois and Houston Nutt at Ole Miss.

4. The SEC West can be thankful for TT leaving. Whoever they hire is likely to be less of a power than TT. It seems doubtful that the transition can be seamless.

5. Why again would Auburn fire this outstanding coach?

1. Two out of the last three years Auburn lost to Arkansas on their home field.

2. Auburn was hammered by Alabama this year for the first time in seven years.

3. LSU, Alabama, Florida, and Georgia have Kicked Auburns butt in recruiting the
    last couple years and it isn't going to get any better, just worse.

4. Auburns Conference record this year is 2-6, and with their current low talent level
   and TTs recruiting problems (see #3) things don't look to be any better in the future.

5. The fact that Auburn barely beat a Mississippi State team whos HC just resigned
    Makes matters even worse.

Note: If Mississippi State offers, TT had better take it because his firing of two Coordinators
in one year will have most Big time D1 schools being very hesitant to hire him.

I am sure glad Arkansas hired Petrino rather than TT.

TT is not now nor has he ever been an outstanding coach. Pretty good yes, but outstanding no.

[Karma]

Lots of presumption that Tubs is out. Any new news that he's actually gone?

[SwinedMelon]

If and when you hear Auburn is coming after Petrino, I am told that Petrino isn't going anywhere. Spread the word. Besides, I think his contract keeps him from coaching anywhere in the west other than here.

[OTTER]

If and when you hear Auburn is coming after Petrino, I am told that Petrino isn't going anywhere. Spread the word. Besides, I think his contract keeps him from coaching anywhere in the west other than here.

True on the contract and Bobby does love living in Fayetteville as does his family.  He's here for a while and maybe for a long while.

[Lard]

Nothing wrong with that.  I'm Church of Christ too but I work for a company that is much more liberal than what the Church of Christ would ever support.  Where you work doesn't always have to match your beliefs.  He could coach at Notre dame without having to throw his support behind catholicism.

I'm church of Christ as well....all i was saying is that when your bosses are catholic priests and they expect you to promote Catholic views and principles and you likely disagree with a large portion of their doctrine, then there would be a little bit of a conflict there.

[SRFL]

I don't rule out Muschamps. In fact, I think he'd be the favorite.

The one issue may be how he and Jay Jacobs' left their relationship upon departure to UT.  Not good.   

[DMacIsASaint]

If and when you hear Auburn is coming after Petrino, I am told that Petrino isn't going anywhere. Spread the word. Besides, I think his contract keeps him from coaching anywhere in the west other than here.

He cant, contract says he cant leave us for another SEC West team.

[The real Hogules]

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[Hawgvillain]

Don't know how reliable this info is, but someone (that other Auburn posters respect alot) just posted that Tubs is definetly out and will become the new Miss State coach. Others are posting that they have heard confirmation, too, that Tubs is definetly out.

I wouldn't mind seeing Tubby out of the SEC-W but part of me would enjoy him going to Miss. St. just to continue to hurt Hootie and OM...

[hog_fan]

He cant, contract says he cant leave us for another SEC West team.

I think is wishful dreaming on Auburn's part.

[GuvHog]

He cant, contract says he cant leave us for another SEC West team.

I don't know what to believe about this. People on this board have posted that the "No compete"
clause is for the SEC West only, but I've had people who would know including a former Board
of Trustees member tell meet that it's for the whole SEC.

[An old hog fanatic]

I'm church of Christ as well....all i was saying is that when your bosses are catholic priests and they expect you to promote Catholic views and principles and you likely disagree with a large portion of their doctrine, then there would be a little bit of a conflict there.

If Tubby is half as conservative in his religion as he is in his offense, there is no way he and ND could dance together.

[Corkscrew Johnson]

3. LSU, Alabama, Florida, and Georgia have Kicked Auburns butt in recruiting the
    last couple years and it isn't going to get any better, just worse.

The last 3 years Auburn has finished 10th, 6th, and 20th in recruiting (and currently 12th).   Only in 2008 was Georgia, Florida, and Alabama all ranked ahead of them.  I would say TT has held his own in recruiting. 

[GuvHog]

The last 3 years Auburn has finished 10th, 6th, and 20th in recruiting (and currently 12th).   Only in 2008 was Georgia, Florida, and Alabama all ranked ahead of them.  I would say TT has held his own in recruiting. 

I would say you're wrong. The low talent level on this years Auburn team plus a 2-6 Conference record proves that.