Arkansas has never hired the "right coach"...never will.

[snoot hoggy hog]

Since Broyles, Arkansas has had a history of hiring the wrong guy. If CBB is fired or leaves another wrong guy will be hired right behind him.
We can't help ourselves. We've told some good ones "no".

[jgphillips3]

Petrino was the right guy.  Who knew he'd screw the pooch?

[Sooie71923]

Mediocre job brings mediocre coaches.

Tier 2 jobs brings tier 2 coaches. 

Destination job for few, stepping stone for many.

[Gonzo]

Since Broyles, Arkansas has had a history of hiring the wrong guy. If CBB is fired or leaves another wrong guy will be hired right behind him.
We can't help ourselves. We've told some good ones "no".

Depends on what you mean by "the wrong guy". I can think of a couple or more since then that I wouldn't consider "the wrong guy".


Go Hogs!

[snoot hoggy hog]

The same offensive genius Petrino that couldn't go undefeated with the most explosive college qb since Mike Vick?

[Bebop]

Well, we need to the "right" one to say "yes". The fact that we have had opportunities shows that coaches are interested.

[XavierZane]

Petrino was the right guy.  Who knew he'd screw the pooch?

Almost everyone knew he would... he has screwed every team he has coached for... which is why he was the wrong guy.   

[jgphillips3]

Almost everyone knew he would... he has screwed every team he has coached for... which is why he was the wrong guy.   

No.  Everyone thought he would leave us for another job...a better job.  Harley Gate was far beyond anyone's possibilities.  He was the right coach at the right time.  Would it have lasted?  Who knows.  However, he had the "it" factor that we need. 

[Hawghiggs]

 It takes hiring the right AD first.

[hogsanity]

very few programs then have hired the right coach, but many have hired the guy who they THOUGHT was he right coach at the time he was hired.

[ImHogginIt]

Petrino was the right guy.  Who knew he'd screw the pooch?

He didn't screw the pooch his AD did. Nobody outside of the AD's office gave a damn who the coach was screwing on the side. Hog fans didn't. If they did they would have raised hell over Sutton and Kelly Minton or Nutt and Donna Bragg.

[RazorbackToTheFuture]

He didn't screw the pooch his AD did. Nobody outside of the AD's office gave a damn who the coach was screwing on the side. Hog fans didn't. If they did they would have raised hell over Sutton and Kelly Minton or Nutt and Donna Bragg.

Bobby is the DA that hired her - made things a lot more complicated from a legal standpoint vs just a booty call/sideho.

[snoot hoggy hog]

He didn't screw the pooch his AD did. Nobody outside of the AD's office gave a damn who the coach was screwing on the side. Hog fans didn't. If they did they would have raised hell over Sutton and Kelly Minton or Nutt and Donna Bragg.

In hindsight you would still take Petrino over Malzhan?

Holtz and Hatfield over Jimmy Johnson?

Nutt over Carroll?

[lasthog]

He didn't screw the pooch his AD did. Nobody outside of the AD's office gave a damn who the coach was screwing on the side. Hog fans didn't. If they did they would have raised hell over Sutton and Kelly Minton or Nutt and Donna Bragg.

At least he wasn't getting serviced in the oval office.

[Gonzo]

In hindsight you would still take Petrino over Malzhan?

Holtz and Hatfield over Jimmy Johnson?

Nutt over Carroll?

First one, I would.

I don't recall Johnson being a candidate when Holtz was hired, but in hindsight probably yes over Hatfield, though Hatfield has the highest winning percentage at the UA helm, tough to know if JJ would have been even better, would have been nice if he were.

Definitely Carroll over Nutt, not even in hindsight. Carroll already had a nice NFL career and had been up for several HC jobs there, much better resume than Nutt IMO. Don't recall if PC was a real option, but I know at the time I thought Nutt over Tubberville was a bad choice, and that wasn't an isolated idea.


Go Hogs!

[HiggiePiggy]

In hindsight you would still take Petrino over Malzhan?

Holtz and Hatfield over Jimmy Johnson?

Nutt over Carroll?

I would take petrino over malzahn in a heart beat.

Hiring Nutt was a joke.  He came from Boise State and went 6-5 there in his only year as a division 1 head coach. Too bad we had a dumbass AD then who was all about himself instead of the program. 

[hogsanity]

I would take petrino over malzahn in a heart beat.

Hiring Nutt was a joke.  He came from Boise State and went 6-5 there in his only year as a division 1 head coach. Too bad we had a dumbass AD then who was all about himself instead of the program. 

AD had little to do with that. JFB wanted Tubberville, and had him all but signed, then White came along with his committee and fricked that up. The last coach that JFB was allowed to hire all on his own was Van Horne, and that worked out pretty darn good,

[ImHogginIt]

AD had little to do with that. JFB wanted Tubberville, and had him all but signed, then White came along with his committee and fricked that up. The last coach that JFB was allowed to hire all on his own was Van Horne, and that worked out pretty darn good,

This

[mckinneyhog5]

He didn't screw the pooch his AD did. Nobody outside of the AD's office gave a damn who the coach was screwing on the side. Hog fans didn't. If they did they would have raised hell over Sutton and Kelly Minton or Nutt and Donna Bragg.

That same attitude is what caused the scumbag his job. He felt he shouldn't have to answer for his dumbass choices. He made the decision to lie after he had been caught red handed.

[ImHogginIt]

That same attitude is what caused the scumbag his job. He felt he shouldn't have to answer for his dumbass choices. He made the decision to lie after he had been caught red handed.

He was married. He was going to lie. His AD didn't have to make everything public unless he had an agenda.

[mckinneyhog5]

He was married. He was going to lie. His AD didn't have to make everything public unless he had an agenda.

BPs the one that went on TV and lied about it. He had also lied to his AD. The only person responsible for how everything that went down is BP.

[ImHogginIt]

BPs the one that went on TV and lied about it. He had also lied to his AD. The only person responsible for how everything that went down is BP.

He ended up on tv only because his superiors made a big deal out of it. You sir can enjoy mediocrity for years to come. You deserve it.

[mckinneyhog5]

He ended up on tv only because his superiors made a big deal out of it. You sir can enjoy mediocrity for years to come. You deserve it.

after he lied to them...had he told the truth they would have never sent him to appear on T.V. Knowing that.  Again, he caused everything that happened to him. He's a grown man and you and him need to accept responsibility for your actions. Lying about a wrong only compounds it.

[HighcountryHog]

Believe me, the Hogs are being laughed at right now just as bad as when BP screwed up.  If recruiting turns out to be more of the same, I just don't see any aspect of this program moving in the right direction.

The bar was set pretty low with JLS, but it's starting to come back into view.

[onebadrubi]

AD had little to do with that. JFB wanted Tubberville, and had him all but signed, then White came along with his committee and fricked that up. The last coach that JFB was allowed to hire all on his own was Van Horne, and that worked out pretty darn good,

People don't realize just how bad White hurt Arkansas athletics and his name is NOT mentioned enough in a lot of our issues.

[Hawg414]

The same offensive genius Petrino that couldn't go undefeated with the most explosive college qb since Mike Vick?

you mean 3* recruit Lamar Jackson?  nevermind that petrino has helped develop him from a 3* recruit to, what you called, the most explosive QB since michael vick... now its a knock on petrino bc he didnt go undefeated??

[Exit Pursued by a Boar]

Bobby is the DA that hired her - made things a lot more complicated from a legal standpoint vs just a booty call/sideho.

This. He didn't just break the rules. He broke the law.

EFBAB

[Dr. Starcs]

We need a recruiter and an intelligent coach. M

PJ fleck anyone?

[Boss Hog in the Arkansas]

Petrino was the right guy.  Who knew he'd screw the pooch?

Pun intended?

[Boss Hog in the Arkansas]

People don't realize just how bad White hurt Arkansas athletics and his name is NOT mentioned enough in a lot of our issues.

Apparently not because I don't even know who he is. Care to educate a humble millennial?

[maknbacn]

Bobby is the DA that hired her - made things a lot more complicated from a legal standpoint vs just a booty call/sideho.

Like the university couldn't have handled that..cmon..she probably got paid off anyway. She is going to sue someone for being involved in an affair? Happens all the time. Bible thumper long sent our program into a spiral, he could have used some sort of punishment and moved on...petrino had a scheme that gave mid level teams like ours a shot, similar to baylor, osu, west v, etc...cbb scheme does not work because he cannot recruit the players here to make it work. Petrino made us a "threat" with his scheme, he might not have won a NC here but facts are facts..he had us in a BCS. Those are facts. CBB is trying to play old school football, which I like...the hogs won't ever get much better with that scheme...the teams similar to us in recruiting ability that threaten top tier teams have a offense scheme like a petrino, briles, holgersen,gundy etc...if we want to get better bowl games and maybe 1-3 losses we will get a coach similar. CBB will always have 3-6 losses and 3 will be rare.

[Big Boi]

First one, I would.

I don't recall Johnson being a candidate when Holtz was hired, but in hindsight probably yes over Hatfield, though Hatfield has the highest winning percentage at the UA helm, tough to know if JJ would have been even better, would have been nice if he were.

Definitely Carroll over Nutt, not even in hindsight. Carroll already had a nice NFL career and had been up for several HC jobs there, much better resume than Nutt IMO. Don't recall if PC was a real option, but I know at the time I thought Nutt over Tubberville was a bad choice, and that wasn't an isolated idea.


Go Hogs!

They went as far as putting JJ name on Franks old office. When Holtz got the job JJ felt betrayed and went to Pitt.

[Hoggish1]

It takes hiring the right AD first.

[GuvHog]

Bobby is the DA that hired her - made things a lot more complicated from a legal standpoint vs just a booty call/sideho.

No Bobby didn't hire her, he just recommended her to the hiring committee who approved her hiring. Jeff Long however, was the one who did the actual hiring.

This. He didn't just break the rules. He broke the law.

EFBAB

No, no law was broken.


Let's stop with the false tales once and for all.

[Inhogswetrust]

Since Broyles, Arkansas has had a history of hiring the wrong guy. If CBB is fired or leaves another wrong guy will be hired right behind him.
We can't help ourselves. We've told some good ones "no".

We've had Two coaches that have won a NC after Frank. One before getting hired and one after. The fact they didn't win one here first doesn't make them a wrong hire here. It makes their hire look good after the fact. Plus we had Hatfield and Petrine and Bret. All considered good hires at the time.

[PearlHarbor]

Mediocre job brings mediocre coaches.

Tier 2 jobs brings tier 2 coaches. 

Destination job for few, stepping stone for many.

We are not even a stepping stone.

[GuvHog]

In hindsight you would still take Petrino over Malzhan?

In a New York Minute.

I'll go even farther. At the end of the 2014 season, I stated that I would not trade CBB for Petrino because at the time I actually believed CBB had the program headed in the right direction. After what has transpired this season, I've changed my mind about that. Even with all of his warts, I'd take Bobby Petrino back as Hog HC in a heart beat.

[Gonzo]

They went as far as putting JJ name on Franks old office. When Holtz got the job JJ felt betrayed and went to Pitt.

Fair enough, as I said, just didn't recall he was a candidate at that point. I knew he was when Hatfield was hired. Part of the difference in awareness of a 14 year old and a 21 year old Hog fan at the time I guess.


Go Hogs!

[BassinHawg]

It takes hiring the right AD first.

Ding! Ding! Ding!

Winner!

[Bubba's Bruisers]

Mediocre job brings mediocre coaches.

Tier 2 jobs brings tier 2 coaches. 

Destination job for few, stepping stone for many.

[zebradynasty]

Like the university couldn't have handled that..cmon..she probably got paid off anyway. She is going to sue someone for being involved in an affair? Happens all the time. Bible thumper long sent our program into a spiral, he could have used some sort of punishment and moved on...

I don't think UA was scared of her suing necessarily but the dozens of other candidates that didn't get the job certainly would have a case. UA very well could have beat all comers wanting to sue but....

No doubt in my mind a bull dog can kick a skunks rear end but I guarantee at some point during the fight the bull dog is going to wonder was it worth the stink!

[Redhogs]

It takes hiring the right AD first.

Ding....We have a winner.

[Redhogs]

you mean 3* recruit Lamar Jackson?  nevermind that petrino has helped develop him from a 3* recruit to, what you called, the most explosive QB since michael vick... now its a knock on petrino bc he didnt go undefeated??

Blows the mind doesn't it. .this is what they got as we wollow in pure misery.

[hogsanity]

Apparently not because I don't even know who he is. Care to educate a humble millennial?

He was chancellor of the University, and the typical egg head academic who tried to meddle in the athletics dept because he felt threatened by it I guess. He did not like athletics, did not like how much power & influence athletics held at the university. When Ford was fired, White insisted there be a committee and that any coach hired go through a interview process, which of course hinders finding a coach that might already have a job because they did not want people knowing they were interviewing. Prior to that JFB had been charged, as AD, to go out and get coaches. He hired Holtz & Hatfield that way, Sutton and Richardson, and DVH.   

[Buff]

No.  Everyone thought he would leave us for another job...a better job.  Harley Gate was far beyond anyone's possibilities.  He was the right coach at the right time.  Would it have lasted?  Who knows.  However, he had the "it" factor that we need. 

This, all of it.  If he had simply left for another job, we could have possibly hired a coach to keep our momentum rolling.  Instead, Jeff tripped over his own ego and had to make the decision to hire John L. Smile.  Momentum killed.  The only momentum Bret is ever going to get is if someone pushes him down a steep hill.

[userpick]

It takes hiring the right AD first.

It's amazing to me how most people don't believe this. Everyone keeps saying "Fire Bret, Fire Mike A"...the  real problem is that loser that makes the decisions. How in the hell is he not on the hot seat?

[hogsanity]

So how do you KNOW you have the RIGHT coach before they ever coach a game. Obviously hiring the right coach is really hard or no one would ever have to fire coaches. Bama hired Shula and Duboise. LSu hired Dinardo. FLA hired Zook. KY hired - well insert name of wrong guy here. Tn - 3 wrong hires after they let Fulmer go. Michigan hired Rich Rod. Notre Dame - last 3 or 4 have been bad, and then possibly the worst hire of all time when they hired Jerry Faust. The list of hiring the WRONG guy would be very long. The RIGHT hire would be a very short list.

[Inhogswetrust]

They went as far as putting JJ name on Franks old office. When Holtz got the job JJ felt betrayed and went to Pitt.

Get your facts straight. JJ was never the head coach at Pitt.

[userpick]

So how do you KNOW you have the RIGHT coach before they ever coach a game. Obviously hiring the right coach is really hard or no one would ever have to fire coaches. Bama hired Shula and Duboise. LSu hired Dinardo. FLA hired Zook. KY hired - well insert name of wrong guy here. Tn - 3 wrong hires after they let Fulmer go. Michigan hired Rich Rod. Notre Dame - last 3 or 4 have been bad, and then possibly the worst hire of all time when they hired Jerry Faust. The list of hiring the WRONG guy would be very long. The RIGHT hire would be a very short list.

Shula was fired after 4 years. Zook fired after 3. Rich Rod, 3 years and out. That's one difference in great programs and shittty one likes us.

[ThisTeetsTaken]

We need ASU's athletic director.  He seems to know how to hire good coaches.  We would be better off hiring up and comer young dynamic coaches, riding them until they get a destination job, rinse and repeat.