Leach would be better than Kiffin.

[flatlander]

Leach's offense gained 7,576 yards in 2003 versus 5,834 this year; he has more balance than you would think.  He's found the balance.  He eats more time off the clock than most people would give him credit for.  He can control games.  Leach's defense allowed 5,894 yards in 2003 versus 4,335 this year; he's gradually attracting bigger and bigger defensive recruits to the remote outpost that Lubbock is.  TTU was on national TV 6 times this year ... and 2 more TV games on FSN's regional coverage.  He currently has one of the nation's top high school linebackers in the fold for next year.  He has a new D-coordinator that will only strengthen his D, as proven in their last 4 games under the new D-C.  He has the nation's best freshman receiver, and his quarterbacks play their roles all the way to national records.  Wes Welker is now one of Tom Brady's go-to receivers, but TTU thrives on those Welker kind of guys.  Leach has TTU on the way to becoming a national power.  I kid you not; TTU will win the Big12 soon and they will make believers out of all the pollsters as well.  People attack the spread, but the spread is here to stay.  If you want to stay in the W-bone or in I-backs forever, you've got a bad wakeup call coming.  The spread is the reason for this year's everchanging top 10.  The spread is one of the reasons why there's more parity in D1 football than most of us have ever seen.  Leach is the master of the spread, maybe mixed with a little west coast offense, but look at his rushing #s.  Not bad.  Not to mention that Leach has 16 players in All Big12 Academic.  He's a little crazy, but the folks in Lubbock are paying him a LOT of money because they LIKE his style.  He could've beaten us this year, and last.  Leach is the pick.  Look at his bowl record.  He's building a power, way out in remote west Texas.  He could do it a little easier here.

[HawgWyld]

Leach's offense gained 7,576 yards in 2003 versus 5,834 this year; he has more balance than you would think.  He's found the balance.  He eats more time off the clock than most people would give him credit for.  He can control games.  Leach's defense allowed 5,894 yards in 2003 versus 4,335 this year; he's gradually attracting bigger and bigger defensive recruits to the remote outpost that Lubbock is.  TTU was on national TV 6 times this year ... and 2 more TV games on FSN's regional coverage.  He currently has one of the nation's top high school linebackers in the fold for next year.  He has a new D-coordinator that will only strengthen his D, as proven in their last 4 games under the new D-C.  He has the nation's best freshman receiver, and his quarterbacks play their roles all the way to national records.  Wes Welker is now one of Tom Brady's go-to receivers, but TTU thrives on those Welker kind of guys.  Leach has TTU on the way to becoming a national power.  I kid you not; TTU will win the Big12 soon and they will make believers out of all the pollsters as well.  People attack the spread, but the spread is here to stay.  If you want to stay in the W-bone or in I-backs forever, you've got a bad wakeup call coming.  The spread is the reason for this year's everchanging top 10.  The spread is one of the reasons why there's more parity in D1 football than most of us have ever seen.  Leach is the master of the spread, maybe mixed with a little west coast offense, but look at his rushing #s.  Not bad.  Not to mention that Leach has 16 players in All Big12 Academic.  He's a little crazy, but the folks in Lubbock are paying him a LOT of money because they LIKE his style.  He could've beaten us this year, and last.  Leach is the pick.  Look at his bowl record.  He's building a power, way out in remote west Texas.  He could do it a little easier here.

Kudos for doing your homework. Imagine people talking sports over here again rather than trading shots in that Nutt soap opera that's coming to a close.

[flatlander]

Thanks for the kudos, but it's just football.  It's hard for me to understand criticism of a guy (Leach) who has taken his team to a bowl game each and every year.  TTU 44, Minnesota 41 last year, with the NCAA's record comeback in that game.  Bama 13, TTU 10 in 2005, with the TTU quarterback crippled ... it ended with ugly kicks (TTU's missed, Alabama's barely knuckled over the crossbars).  2004 was TTU 45 over #4 California's 31.  TTU beat Navy in 2003's bowl game, and beat Clemson 55-15 in 2002's bowl game.  Leach's teams have beaten #3 OU (this year) and #3 Texas (a few years ago) so he can win big games, including beating #4 California in the above-mentioned bowl game.

Time is the factor that very few schools consider anymore.  Time grows coaches; we don't want a Kiffin.  At schools that allow coaches the time to do it, good coaches grow solid teams.  Anymore, coaches are lucky if they aren't run off before their own recruits start playing.  It's ridiculous.  What are we supposed to expect?  Nobody seems to have the patience to believe in a coach, yet they pay him ridiculous amounts of money.  We all expect too much, too fast, for whatever it costs, and we set ourselves up for disappointment.

On that note, it takes time to make the right decision about the next coach.  Nutt leaves here and that was bargain enough for Ole Miss ... in all of what, 3-4 hours?  Francione leaves A&M, or gets pushed away, and A&M has him replaced the next day with Sherman?  It's a farce.  It's not that easy.  They'll get what they paid for, lock stock and barrel, just like A&M did when they first stole Francione from Alabama.  Like Alabama did when they stole Saban from Miami.  It's taking away from the best sport on the planet.

Someone mentioned something about coaches not liking Leach, or people not liking him, and we all know he's just a little less normal than most.  I guess I like it that he's not well understood.  Players would die for him - that's all I really care about.  Who cares what other coaches think, what the alum think, or what the media thinks, or what the fans think, for that matter?  Players would die for him, and that makes a little school out in Lubbock turn out some winning football teams.

Leach has won more games off less bankable talent than we could imagine.  Up until this past year, TTU wasn't recruiting the bluechippers with any big success.  But they turned that around a little last year, and they are going to have a top 20 class this year.

To dispute that notion that he's unlikeable, he and Stoops are buddies.  He and Mack Brown are chums.  He gets along.  He just speaks his mind.  Like when he got fined $10K for taking up for his team against some questionable officiating down in Austin this year.  His team loves him for it.  Some TTU alumni set up a "fine" fund to pay it off, and they raised the money in 30 minutes.  As for character, he's run some of his best players off, because they made mistakes in life.  His teams put more and more academic achievements each year.  He is an odd duck, but he's kinda like that crazy uncle you can't help but love.

Leach would be an asset.  Why should TTU turn into more of a power than it is today?  He's the choice.

[ErieHog]

Thanks for the kudos, but it's just football.  It's hard for me to understand criticism of a guy (Leach) who has taken his team to a bowl game each and every year.

Nutt was 8 of 10, and deserved every bit of criticism he got.   Just going to a bowl in a conference with 6+ tie-ins, when there are only 3 stable bowl schools in the conference (OU, Texas, formerly Nebraska) is not an accomplishment worth noting.

TTU 44, Minnesota 41 last year, with the NCAA's record comeback in that game.  Bama 13, TTU 10 in 2005, with the TTU quarterback crippled ... it ended with ugly kicks (TTU's missed, Alabama's barely knuckled over the crossbars).  2004 was TTU 45 over #4 California's 31.  TTU beat Navy in 2003's bowl game, and beat Clemson 55-15 in 2002's bowl game.  Leach's teams have beaten #3 OU (this year) and #3 Texas (a few years ago) so he can win big games, including beating #4 California in the above-mentioned bowl game.

Getting down *35* to a terrible, terrible Minnesota team, then beating them because they went beyond-Nutt in conservative playcalling is supposed to be encouraging somehow?   I'm very unimpressed.  Beating on Cal in a bowl game they showed up utterly flat to, because they were excluded from the BCS doesn't hold much water, either.   Neither does beating a service academy. 
So, his best bowl accomplishment is beating either an inconsistent Clemson, or losing to Alabama?  No thanks.

You mention ranked teams he's defeated;  in how many games has Texas Tech blown a lead of 28 points or more during the Leach era?   I'll save you some time and reasearch.  19 times, (6-13) during 8 years.

Time is the factor that very few schools consider anymore.  Time grows coaches; we don't want a Kiffin.  At schools that allow coaches the time to do it, good coaches grow solid teams.  Anymore, coaches are lucky if they aren't run off before their own recruits start playing.  It's ridiculous.  What are we supposed to expect?  Nobody seems to have the patience to believe in a coach, yet they pay him ridiculous amounts of money.  We all expect too much, too fast, for whatever it costs, and we set ourselves up for disappointment.   

If you hire a new coach,  you want Old Coach + ; if not, there is little reason to pay more money, sit through several down years, and only then get back to the exact same place you were before.

On that note, it takes time to make the right decision about the next coach.  Nutt leaves here and that was bargain enough for Ole Miss ... in all of what, 3-4 hours?  Francione leaves A&M, or gets pushed away, and A&M has him replaced the next day with Sherman?  It's a farce.  It's not that easy.  They'll get what they paid for, lock stock and barrel, just like A&M did when they first stole Francione from Alabama.  Like Alabama did when they stole Saban from Miami.  It's taking away from the best sport on the planet.

Someone mentioned something about coaches not liking Leach, or people not liking him, and we all know he's just a little less normal than most.  I guess I like it that he's not well understood.  Players would die for him - that's all I really care about.  Who cares what other coaches think, what the alum think, or what the media thinks, or what the fans think, for that matter?  Players would die for him, and that makes a little school out in Lubbock turn out some winning football teams.

Leach has won more games off less bankable talent than we could imagine.  Up until this past year, TTU wasn't recruiting the bluechippers with any big success.  But they turned that around a little last year, and they are going to have a top 20 class this year.

To dispute that notion that he's unlikeable, he and Stoops are buddies.  He and Mack Brown are chums.  He gets along.  He just speaks his mind.  Like when he got fined $10K for taking up for his team against some questionable officiating down in Austin this year.  His team loves him for it.  Some TTU alumni set up a "fine" fund to pay it off, and they raised the money in 30 minutes.  As for character, he's run some of his best players off, because they made mistakes in life.  His teams put more and more academic achievements each year.  He is an odd duck, but he's kinda like that crazy uncle you can't help but love.

Leach would be an asset.  Why should TTU turn into more of a power than it is today?  He's the choice.

Sorry, but no.   If we were looking for a coach to dominate SMU and Baylor for 20%+ of their career wins, and 20% of their conference wins, then hiring Leach would be fine.    We're looking for better.

[flatlander]

It's hard to compare apples to oranges.

You can't really compare Leach to Nutt, and who would want to?  You can't really compare Ole Miss to Baylor, for any reason.  You can't put down Big12 ball when the bulk of the world has kept Mizzou, Kansas, Oklahoma and Texas in the top 20 most of the year.

And you can't say no when people smarter than we are let us know that Leach is indeed our new coach.

[pertymouth]

Leach has put up some crazy offensive numbers. and I think with a good DC, he would be the man for the job. Were running out of time, We better hurry up and nail someone big or it might turn into a Stan Heath situation.


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/teams/txtech/

2nd nation in passing and 7th points scored

We already got rid of ONE "leach"!!!!

[pertymouth]

Leach has put up some crazy offensive numbers. and I think with a good DC, he would be the man for the job. Were running out of time, We better hurry up and nail someone big or it might turn into a Stan Heath situation.


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/teams/txtech/

2nd nation in passing and 7th points scored

We already got rid of ONE "leach"!!!!

[HOGINTENNESSEE]

Leach has put up some crazy offensive numbers. and I think with a good DC, he would be the man for the job. Were running out of time, We better hurry up and nail someone big or it might turn into a Stan Heath situation.


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/teams/txtech/

2nd nation in passing and 7th points scored

Nutt was 12th in the nation with points scored. Bad arguement.

[jrblack05]

"Leach would be better than Kiffin."

Bull.