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Will Barford Get Drafted?

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greenEGnHAWGS

The kid is killing it this year and showing outstanding leadership. 1st team All SEC to boot. Any chance he gets drafted?
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raz1965

I bet he plays in the NBA one day, even if not drafted.

 

sickboy

March 10, 2018, 12:32:32 pm #2 Last Edit: March 10, 2018, 04:30:37 pm by sickboy
Quote from: raz1965 on March 10, 2018, 12:28:41 pm
I bet he plays in the NBA one day, even if not drafted.



Edit: I re-read the title of the thread and realized it was BARford. Not GAFford. I was trying to think of a way that Gafford could declare for the draft, end up not drafted, but still wind up in the NBA. I was so confused. Now I realizing you meant Barford could do some Euro/D-League and be in the NBA down the road.

RyeHogFan

You'd think with his ability to shoot outside and take a hit and finish inside, somebody will draft him.  It might be second round, but I'm almost certain someone will take a shot with him. 

Pig in the Pokey

of course he'll be in the league, as will macon. How can you not see that?
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BannerMountainMan

Quote from: raz1965 on March 10, 2018, 12:28:41 pm
I bet he plays in the NBA one day, even if not drafted.
easily the best guard since Joe Johnson at Arkansas, easily
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I think its iffy only because he falls into a size slot where there is no shortage of players with really good skill sets.   

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Quote from: BannerMountainMan on March 10, 2018, 01:47:25 pm
easily the best guard since Joe Johnson at Arkansas, easily

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RaisinHog

Quote from: Snoop Hoggy Hog on March 10, 2018, 01:55:51 pm
So does Pat Beverley
..

Well beverley was never the scorer barford is .. barford is probably a better college player than both of those guys but it is debatable

greenEGnHAWGS

Quote from: Pig in the Pokey on March 10, 2018, 01:45:07 pm
of course he'll be in the league, as will macon. How can you not see that?

How can we not see that? Is it overly-obvious that I just haven't realized? I hope you're right but Macon is small for the NBA unless you have special skills/swag/confidence. I guess we'll see.
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k.c.hawg

Quote from: RaisinHog on March 10, 2018, 01:58:10 pm
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Well beverley was never the scorer barford is .. barford is probably a better college player than both of those guys but it is debatable

Yeah, very debatable. Ronnie Brewer Senior year.

18.4 ppg     4.8 rebounds    3.3 assists   2.6 steals

Junior year

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He ends his Razorback career 16th in scoring (1,416 – 15.7 ppg), seventh in steals (216), 10th in assists (299) and tied for 10th in free throws made (326).

Very nice 3 year run for RBJ.
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thebignasty

I don't think Macon or Barford are obvious NBA guys, but neither would surprise me if they made it.

My guess is that will both make a bunch of money in Europe/Russia etc
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East TN HAWG

Quote from: Snoop Hoggy Hog on March 10, 2018, 01:55:51 pm
So does Pat Beverley
Don't think Beverly was drafted.  Went over seas for a few years. 

East TN HAWG

I'm not sure if Barford has the foot speed to play 2 guard in NBA. 

I think he gets drafted.

Hog_Fink

Ronnie was a lottery pick with a 10yr nba career. Beverley is 1 of the best perimeter defenders in the league.

Barford will be very lucky to fill out a bench. More than likely they are both overseas players

Hog_Fink

that said, Jacorey Williams has been playing pretty well in the G league. I dont understand. he never impressed for us

Karma

Quote from: galactivation on March 10, 2018, 03:36:51 pm
that said, Jacorey Williams has been playing pretty well in the G league. I dont understand. he never impressed for us
He didn't put his best foot forward here.

King Kong

He has pro potential. Probably not a first rounder. Back in the day would have been a 2nd. However, now the second round is filled with Europe players that NBA drafts to bring over a couple of years later

la20688

Quote from: galactivation on March 10, 2018, 03:36:51 pm
that said, Jacorey Williams has been playing pretty well in the G league. I dont understand. he never impressed for us
He did me. He looked like he was just getting it together on the court right before messed it all up off the court for the last time.

rude1

Barford will need to be able to play the point at the NBA level or be a lights out shooter. Unfortunately he is neither, he won't be able to guard NBA guards whether it be shooting or point, and he isn't a good enough ball handler to play point in the NBA. Don't think he is drafted but surely will get brought into camp by some team.

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kp72204

I was wondering about all the seniors. They both came back because neither was on NBA radar along with Moses. Who i thought played great defense and would be able to find a bench job (too much homer in me). With that said:

Barford looks a little too nonathletic. He does good in transition and can hit some big shots in critical moments. However, I think he could add some weight and become a Zach Randolph type with upside. He'll definately be fighting for a job in the summer league.

Macon. He's hard to assess for me. As I've really payed strict attention to him this year (thanks SEC Network), he seems to be a step slow. I've watched him cross guys and they can catch right back up to him, however his shot is phenomenal when he's in a zone.

Beard will be overseas or utilize his degree.

Thompson......see Beard.

Barford and Macon both did what they were told by scouts last year and it's really showed up this year.

With that said, that's why I want an SEC Championship, for the players who contributed to a championship. And as always lets go Hogs and make some lifetime memories.

 

phadedhawg

I think Barford will make it to the NBA but I don't see a team spending a draft pick on him.

elksnort

Quote from: Pig in the Pokey on March 10, 2018, 01:45:07 pm
of course he'll be in the league, as will macon. How can you not see that?
Just like we saw that Norvell was going to be the football coach.

MountieDawg

Quote from: Pig in the Pokey on March 10, 2018, 01:45:07 pm
of course he'll be in the league, as will macon. How can you not see that?

Size will hurt them some and being 22 and 23 years old.... They will struggle in offensive sets because I imagine they didnt run any in Junior college either.... They both have great scoring ability, but neither are point guards and a little small for shooting guards... I think the will spend some time in the NBA but probably not drafted.
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ShadowHawg

Both Barford and Macon's best chance to get in the league is to go undrafted.

I know, it sounds crazy but they would get to choose which rosters they have the best chance of making and sign as undrafted free agents. It worked for Vanvleet and Baker out of Wichita St.

ErieHog

They're developmental guys, not draft picks.

Barford could use Macon's polish;  Macon could use Barford's build.



They can both be extremely successful pros, and both have the potential to one day play in the League, but they're not likely to crack a draft board, unless they find a way to get a  pre-draft camp invite and just blow people away there.
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Quote from: BannerMountainMan on March 10, 2018, 01:47:25 pm
easily the best guard since Joe Johnson at Arkansas, easily

I'll take Fortson over him talent wise

razorback1829

Quote from: Pinto on March 10, 2018, 07:17:37 pm
I'll take Fortson over him talent wise

Fort son was more of a volume shooter. Barford is much more efficient.

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RaisinHog

Quote from: k.c.hawg on March 10, 2018, 02:16:19 pm
Yeah, very debatable. Ronnie Brewer Senior year.

18.4 ppg     4.8 rebounds    3.3 assists   2.6 steals

Junior year

16.2 ppg    4.8 rebounds    3.4 assists    2.5 steals

He ends his Razorback career 16th in scoring (1,416 – 15.7 ppg), seventh in steals (216), 10th in assists (299) and tied for 10th in free throws made (326).

Very nice 3 year run for RBJ.

Yeah Ronnie has the edge by a lil lol .. i looked up his numbers after I posted that .. but you get the point

daprospecta

I think Macon has a better shot and here is why. Anybody noticed the last five or so games, Macon has become more of a facilitator? I don't think that is by accident. He knows he will have to play point if he wants a chance at the next level.  I feel like Barford has hurt his chances by being a scorer first because he will have a hard time playing the 2 in the NBA.  Barford does not play like a point but that is his position in the NBA.  Both will get a chance for sure.

ADavisTheGOAT

They should both be in the G-League. Dusty did it, and so will they. Wouldn't be surprised if they got a 2 way contract at some point in their career.
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steveaustin69

Quote from: Pig in the Pokey on March 10, 2018, 01:45:07 pm
of course he'll be in the league, as will macon. How can you not see that?

Because they are undersized and not good defenders.

steveaustin69

Quote from: kp72204 on March 10, 2018, 05:46:16 pm
I was wondering about all the seniors. They both came back because neither was on NBA radar along with Moses. Who i thought played great defense and would be able to find a bench job (too much homer in me). With that said:

Barford looks a little too nonathletic. He does good in transition and can hit some big shots in critical moments. However, I think he could add some weight and become a Zach Randolph type with upside. He'll definately be fighting for a job in the summer league.

Macon. He's hard to assess for me. As I've really payed strict attention to him this year (thanks SEC Network), he seems to be a step slow. I've watched him cross guys and they can catch right back up to him, however his shot is phenomenal when he's in a zone.

Beard will be overseas or utilize his degree.

Thompson......see Beard.

Barford and Macon both did what they were told by scouts last year and it's really showed up this year.

With that said, that's why I want an SEC Championship, for the players who contributed to a championship. And as always lets go Hogs and make some lifetime memories.

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Pig in the Pokey

Quote from: elksnort on March 10, 2018, 05:54:26 pm
Just like we saw that Norvell was going to be the football coach.
just like i said brandon allen would be drafted and yall mocked me.


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Foshodo

if Barford played hungry constantly i could see him blooming into a bulldog role like Kyle Lowry.
as much i want both Macon and Barford in the NBA i dont see it happening for either. their scoring isnt enough and theyre both sporadic at that.

razorback1829

Quote from: Foshodo on March 11, 2018, 01:32:23 am
if Barford played hungry constantly i could see him blooming into a bulldog role like Kyle Lowry.
as much i want both Macon and Barford in the NBA i dont see it happening for either. their scoring isnt enough and theyre both sporadic at that.

So he doesn't play hungry? 2nd leading scorer in conference lol. Comeon man.

HossHog

Quote from: galactivation on March 10, 2018, 03:36:51 pm
that said, Jacorey Williams has been playing pretty well in the G league. I dont understand. he never impressed for us
I don't know if you watched his senior year at MTSU but he was very impressive, he got A LOT better in his year off.

Pinto

Quote from: RaisinHog on March 10, 2018, 01:58:10 pm
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Well beverley was never the scorer barford is .. barford is probably a better college player than both of those guys but it is debatable

No, not to mention Pat was a lot younger than JB

ErieHog

Quote from: galactivation on March 10, 2018, 03:36:51 pm
that said, Jacorey Williams has been playing pretty well in the G league. I dont understand. he never impressed for us

He always displayed all of the tools, and they were very obviously coming together when he left here.

He was a guy that was pretty easily projectable, and when he made it to MTSU, you could see that he hadn't slipped on that developmental arc.  That's how he became G League viable.
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Foshodo

Quote from: razorback1829 on March 11, 2018, 03:46:39 am
So he doesn't play hungry? 2nd leading scorer in conference lol. Comeon man.

Timing is everything... he'd go awhile doing nothing and then explode... ya ever watch Kobe try to prove he wasn't a ball hog by getting the first 5 assists of the game and the other 30 minutes he takes 28 shots? People look at the stats and say "oh but look, he had 5 assists!" Doesn't make him not a ball hog

Barford is great at scoring... look at the stats and you'll see but he if he stayed on it the whole game he could be the leading scorer in the conference and be making a ton more money next year

Hog_Fink

man, his g league highlights are very impressive. he's averaging 16ppg in g league

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Quote from: thebignasty on March 10, 2018, 02:30:01 pm
I don't think Macon or Barford are obvious NBA guys, but neither would surprise me if they made it.

My guess is that will both make a bunch of money in Europe/Russia etc

This, ^^^^^.  I only see both of them making it in the NBA if they put in the time and journey that Pat Beverley had to do.  Beverley has now become one of the best defensive players in the league and is a shutdown guard, he's the toughest player at his position and all opposing players dread going against him.  I admire his hard work.

rmcchris

no on the draft in my opinion.  Could he make it to the NBA, yes, but hard road like Beverly. Not sure he has the motor, night in and night out?

311Hog

Quote from: razorback1829 on March 11, 2018, 03:46:39 am
So he doesn't play hungry? 2nd leading scorer in conference lol. Comeon man.

i think he means after he graduates/leaves you know when someone isn't pushing you to work out play etc.

If Barford and Macon put in the work that PBev did they both will make the league.  PBev willed himself into the league.

I know Barford has a kid i am not sure on Macon but that is serious motivation =)

I don't think either are drafted though.