Mark Schlabach's Comments on the Finebaum Show

[brenthog]

Paul Finebaum had Mark Schlabach on and he said "I really don't know what Arkansas hopes to achieve, 6-7 wins. They really need to look at themselves and set the expectations of what they can do being in the SEC west."

This bothers me, because of what we did under BP. I honestly just hope to compete better than we have recently.

[hoghearted]

not far from some of the conversations we've seen on Hogville.....Arkansas needs to know their place and not aspire for better....

[Kevin]

like I tell players I work with, don't accept the small picture that people want to put you in. see yourself in a big picture.

screw the national media.

[Big Daddy]

The right guy can get it done.

[Hawginj]

Paul Finebaum had Mark Schlabach on and he said "I really don't know what Arkansas hopes to achieve, 6-7 wins. They really need to look at themselves and set the expectations of what they can do being in the SEC west."

This bothers me, because of what we did under BP. I honestly just hope to compete better than we have recently.

Arkansas has been bad for so long of course the talking heads don't know and don't care its up to us the fans to set the expectations

[Troll-ingmotor]

Paul Finebaum had Mark Schlabach on and he said "I really don't know what Arkansas hopes to achieve, 6-7 wins. They really need to look at themselves and set the expectations of what they can do being in the SEC west."

This bothers me, because of what we did under BP. I honestly just hope to compete better than we have recently.

Are you rich?

if so, give players some money.

Are you not?

Then meh.

[moses_007]

Well, Arkansas will never religate itself to where Illinois and Indiana are in football.  We always will strive to be much better than those perennial losers.

[hawgon]

Well, Arkansas will never religate itself to where Illinois and Indiana are in football.  We always will strive to be much better than those perennial losers.

Which in the end is the main reason Long is gone.  That is where he was trying to put us.

[jgphillips3]

We know we aren't Alabama.  We also aren't a 6-7 win program.

[STLhawg]

F#@k Mark!!!  Tennessee has been bad longer than we have, yet I bet he sings a different time about them. 

[hoghearted]

We know we aren't Alabama.  We also aren't a 6-7 win program.

[Dropkick]

Did he ask Mark if sees 6 or 7 wins on our record or if he caught the CCU game.

[HouSwine]

Who is Mark Schlabach?
Honest question

[texas tush hog]

Well, Arkansas will never religate itself to where Illinois and Indiana are in football.  We always will strive to be much better than those perennial losers.

Wait a minute our new interim AD is from Indiana.

[Cylinder]

His job is to generate advertising revenue.

[HogPharmer]

Who is Mark Schlabach?
Honest question

High profile Robert Shields

[seasonhog]

Paul Finebaum had Mark Schlabach on and he said "I really don't know what Arkansas hopes to achieve, 6-7 wins. They really need to look at themselves and set the expectations of what they can do being in the SEC west."

This bothers me, because of what we did under BP. I honestly just hope to compete better than we have recently.

This is what we are thought of..........thanks to Long & Bielema.

To many Hog fans think the same way.

[Troll-ingmotor]

stupid name... stupid commentary:

https://www.seccountry.com/alabama/espns-mark-schlabach-sec-a-shell-of-its-former-dominant-self-alabama-primed-to-benefit

[hawg1221]

Arkansas and Ole Miss fighting it out for last place in the SEC west this year. I think Mark believes this fight will continue for the next several years.

[Hollywood_HOGan45]

We've been a 6-7 win program under Bret Bielema. Even nutt had several 8-9 wins.  We've been that way for only 5 years.  I hate that Arkansas isn't allowed to be any good. Screw the national media.

I wonder if miss state and South Carolina are glad they didn't accept their spot in the pecking order and aspired for better.

[HogPharmer]

Arkansas and Ole Miss fighting it out for last place in the SEC west this year. I think Mark believes this fight will continue for the next several years.

OM is where they belong. As soon as Mullen leaves (not saying that will be anytime soon), Ms State will join them. Bama will be on top as long as Saban is there, but in the meantime, with the right hire, there's no reason Arkansas can fight it out with LSU, A&M, and Auburn for 2nd. Those schools have an easier path to legitimately compete, but BP proved we can be relevant.

[Jimmy]

This....

[Dwight_K_Shrute]

It's complete horse stuff.  Nutt Averaged 7.5 wins but 6 out of 10 seasons he hit 8 or more.  BP averaged 8.25.  Both of these averages are no forgiving any seasons not dropping their worst year whatever they are what they are.  Bert is staring at sub 6 game average after 5 years.  Best case scenario he goes 1-1 and is right at averaging 6 W's per year with 2 out of 5 losing seasons.  If he does get win 5 he would have still average 20% fewer wins than Nutt and 28% fewer wins than BP.  Combined they have 14 years of data points to compare to.  If we add them together he is averaging 23% fewer wins than the previous 14 years.  In those 14 years their were 3 losing seasons, or 21% he's about to have 2 out of 5, 40%.  Some of Nutt's seasons were the 11 game variety so he isn't getting the benefit of an FCS win every year like BB is.  With that Nutt's average would creep up a little meaning Bert's comparison to the average would go down.

These are number, facts, trends not some lazy national guy blowing an opinion out of his ass instead of doing 5 minutes of research like say Aaron Torres did when he said "Why does the national media give BB a pass?"

[hawg1221]

OM is where they belong. As soon as Mullen leaves (not saying that will be anytime soon), Ms State will join them. Bama will be on top as long as Saban is there, but in the meantime, with the right hire, there's no reason Arkansas can fight it out with LSU, A&M, and Auburn for 2nd. Those schools have an easier path to legitimately compete, but BP proved we can be relevant.

Oh, I absolutely agree with you.

[dhizzle]

What a clown. If state can win 8 or more games so can Arkansas.

[razortrack]

 remember Colorado Buffaloes coming out of nowhere to have a few great seasons late 80's to mid 90's.

[DeltaBoy]

remember Colorado Buffaloes coming out of nowhere to have a few great seasons late 80's to mid 90's.

They won a Natty in 90-91!

[Sooie71923]

BP had 2 good years. Nobody knows if he would have sustained that. Every koolaid drinker goes to BPs 2 years of glory and act like that was an era.  No it was 2 years with the best homegrown Arkansas talent we've had.

Looking at the way Louisville has tanked with a Heisman QB this year, it's safe to say BP would have had down years at Arkansas with a flash in the pan every few years. He can't even handle the ACC right now, but people still selectively point to those "2 years."   

[Porkchop#1]

BP had 2 good years. Nobody knows if he would have sustained that. Every koolaid drinker goes to BPs 2 years of glory and act like that was an era.  No it was 2 years with the best homegrown Arkansas talent we've had.

Looking at the way Louisville has tanked with a Heisman QB this year, it's safe to say BP would have had down years at Arkansas with a flash in the pan every few years. He can't even handle the ACC right now, but people still selectively point to those "2 years."

Even Petrino's year 2 record of 8-5 doesn't look so bad right now.

[ThisTeetsTaken]

He's basically saying we are the worst program in the SECW but with a few exceptions we've always been ahead of the two Mississippi schools.   Arkansas is (on average) a 8-9 win program and there's no reason we can't win 10 every so often.   Petrino proved it. 

[Ragnar Hogbrok]

 We got Long fired... now we move on to Schlabach!  Keep your pitchforks out!   We're going full French revolution up in this mug!

[DeltaBoy]

I just want to see us an more games!

[mckinneyhog5]

We'll be having this same disscussion in 3-5 years regardless of who we hire. Rinse, repeat, rinse again. Having said that I'll still be cheering for the hogs!

[B Ray]

Look at Arkansas , outside looking in ..last 5 years under CBB and the previous year under JLS our record is currently 33-38 , if we win out and win a bowl game that's 36-38 over 6 years , averages 6 wins per season. It's the perception of how we look to those that is not a hog fan.

This years seniors was in the 6th grade, the last time Arkansas looked like a winning program .. That makes recruiting difficult

[Hawghiggs]

 The best way for Arkansas to be more competitive is with Florida and Tennessee having strong programs. This displaces more talent evenly. Which gives us a chance.

[Pork Twain]

Paul Finebaum had Mark Schlabach on and he said "I really don't know what Arkansas hopes to achieve, 6-7 wins. They really need to look at themselves and set the expectations of what they can do being in the SEC west."

This bothers me, because of what we did under BP. I honestly just hope to compete better than we have recently.

Sample size...  So many want to hang onto the two good years that CBP had and ignore everything else, including that CBP benefitted from one of the best classes to make those two years possible.  The stars were aligned when he was hired and I think it will be difficult to achieve that and maintain it.

[Rudy Baylor]

Paul Finebaum had Mark Schlabach on and he said "I really don't know what Arkansas hopes to achieve, 6-7 wins. They really need to look at themselves and set the expectations of what they can do being in the SEC west."

This bothers me, because of what we did under BP. I honestly just hope to compete better than we have recently.

[ShadowTheHedgehog]

Paul Finebaum had Mark Schlabach on and he said "I really don't know what Arkansas hopes to achieve, 6-7 wins. They really need to look at themselves and set the expectations of what they can do being in the SEC west."

This bothers me, because of what we did under BP. I honestly just hope to compete better than we have recently.

Yeah they want us to keep a mediocre coach so we are not a threat like we were under CBP. Fook them both.

[StanHog]

Paul Finebaum had Mark Schlabach on and he said "I really don't know what Arkansas hopes to achieve, 6-7 wins. They really need to look at themselves and set the expectations of what they can do being in the SEC west."

This bothers me, because of what we did under BP. I honestly just hope to compete better than we have recently.

This is why CBP should not have been fired and Long should have been fired the day after he fired Bobby. We wouldn't have taken any more abuse in the media than we already did and are continuing to this very day. Very happy Long is gone, it was Long overdue.

[Hogblog]

BP had 2 good years. Nobody knows if he would have sustained that. Every koolaid drinker goes to BPs 2 years of glory and act like that was an era.  No it was 2 years with the best homegrown Arkansas talent we've had.

Looking at the way Louisville has tanked with a Heisman QB this year, it's safe to say BP would have had down years at Arkansas with a flash in the pan every few years. He can't even handle the ACC right now, but people still selectively point to those "2 years."   

Bologna..... Nutt had the best talent this state had to offer and couldn't do $hit with it.....

[NaturalStateReb]

Paul Finebaum had Mark Schlabach on and he said "I really don't know what Arkansas hopes to achieve, 6-7 wins. They really need to look at themselves and set the expectations of what they can do being in the SEC west."

This bothers me, because of what we did under BP. I honestly just hope to compete better than we have recently.

I think there's a difference between average expectations and occasional expectations.  Averaging about 7-7.5 wins is a completely reasonable expectation.  Averaging 9-9.5 wins probably isn't, but it doesn't mean that you can't expect occasional breakout seasons.

[tbhogfan]

Paul Finebaum had Mark Schlabach on and he said "I really don't know what Arkansas hopes to achieve, 6-7 wins. They really need to look at themselves and set the expectations of what they can do being in the SEC west."

This bothers me, because of what we did under BP. I honestly just hope to compete better than we have recently.

I'd be for completely scrapping the football program if 6-7 wins was all we could aspire to.

[Tony Perkis]

Schlabach is a buffoon who makes his money writing for those terrible duck dynasty guys.

[The_Bionic_Pig]

Clemson, South Carolina has 13,905 residents.  The nearest airport is Greenville (45 Miles from campus)

[cjack]

It's complete horse stuff.  Nutt Averaged 7.5 wins but 6 out of 10 seasons he hit 8 or more.  BP averaged 8.25.  Both of these averages are no forgiving any seasons not dropping their worst year whatever they are what they are.  Bert is staring at sub 6 game average after 5 years.  Best case scenario he goes 1-1 and is right at averaging 6 W's per year with 2 out of 5 losing seasons.  If he does get win 5 he would have still average 20% fewer wins than Nutt and 28% fewer wins than BP.  Combined they have 14 years of data points to compare to.  If we add them together he is averaging 23% fewer wins than the previous 14 years.  In those 14 years their were 3 losing seasons, or 21% he's about to have 2 out of 5, 40%.  Some of Nutt's seasons were the 11 game variety so he isn't getting the benefit of an FCS win every year like BB is.  With that Nutt's average would creep up a little meaning Bert's comparison to the average would go down.

These are number, facts, trends not some lazy national guy blowing an opinion out of his ass instead of doing 5 minutes of research like say Aaron Torres did when he said "Why does the national media give BB a pass?"

Spot on.  I think the national media is easier on BB for the same reason he stayed here so long.  He talks a good game.  He's a nice guy.  He's the funny teddy bear at media days.  He's good for a one liner or two, etc.

[Seebs]

Who is Mark Schlabach?
Honest question

He is a Clay Travis without the edge and trannnie porn.

[Athog]

His job is to generate advertising revenue.

Generate what he is getting here!

[Michael D Huff AIA]

Look at Arkansas , outside looking in ..last 5 years under CBB and the previous year under JLS our record is currently 33-38 , if we win out and win a bowl game that's 36-38 over 6 years , averages 6 wins per season. It's the perception of how we look to those that is not a hog fan.

This years seniors was in the 6th grade, the last time Arkansas looked like a winning program .. That makes recruiting difficult

This is a very important point, and makes the upcoming HC hire that much more important.  THE RIGHT HC HIRE can change the perception, and then the national media coverage, of our school. 

The hiring of Mike Norvell would create a completely different narrative than hiring Mike Leach or Gus Malzhan.  Hiring Norvell would say that we care more about the coach's age and offensive numbers than caring about where he put up those offensive numbers (AAC vs SEC).  It also begs the question, "Arkansas, you're an SEC school.  Is this the best you can do?"  There is an inherent risk with the 'up and coming' coach.  Nutt was one of those, but history is treating his win/loss record more kindly as of late.  The media might also perceive that we had to aim lower because we have an identity crisis in Fayetteville; this may or may not be the case.  The same liability would come with hiring Lane Kiffin or any other non-Power 5 coach.  I realize that Kiffin has coached in the P5 level, but he got fired at USC and only coached 1 year at Tennessee.

Hiring Mike Leach or Gus Malzhan would INSTANTLY change the narrative in Fayetteville, and I believe for the positive.  It's a much bigger swing, and it would signal that we are ready to change the culture NOW, much like when we got Petrino.  It's a signal that we are changing the way we do business.  We would have better skill position players (more speed) interested in our program on DAY ONE and the last time we won games on a regular basis we did it with skill position players, not slow players with limited playmaking ability.  The media likes big news and can be our ally in this situation, giving us a spotlight for a positive thing rather than negatives (no winning, firing your AD). 

The national media could be our ally if we make the right choice in a few weeks.

[rzrbaxfan]

Look at Arkansas , outside looking in ..last 5 years under CBB and the previous year under JLS our record is currently 33-38 , if we win out and win a bowl game that's 36-38 over 6 years , averages 6 wins per season. It's the perception of how we look to those that is not a hog fan.

This years seniors was in the 6th grade, the last time Arkansas looked like a winning program .. That makes recruiting difficult

Check my math here...In Petrino's last two years we went 21-5 with a 12-4 SEC record.  We played well in a Sugar Bowl loss (best bowl we've gone to in BCS era) and dominated K State in Cotton Bowl.  That was 2010-2011.  Wouldn't the seniors on this team be in about the 10th or 11th grade around then?

As someone said in another thread, we are not a national championship type of school, but we are not an at best 6-7 win school either.  The success we had under BP may be our realistic ceiling, but it is achievable....just not with BB.

[CiriusPorker]

here's the problemm with those comments.
He's right.
But..he's also wrong AF.

1) Competition is at the very core of human nature.  Business compete and all aspire to be the best in their industry.  No one complains about that. 

2) He's truly just telling the "small business"..you can never be the "big business"..even tho that "small business' has at times been the "big business'...

All universities should compete to be the best in all areas.  That's what makes this country great...and believe me, I've lived in Brazil where there isn't as much drive to be the best...getting to mediocrity is okay..and sometimes not even necessary.