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bama offers hammonds
« on: December 30, 2015, 12:41:39 pm »

hopefully we can keep him!!!!
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Re: bama offers hammonds
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2015, 12:43:03 pm »

hopefully we can keep him!!!!

We will.
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Re: bama offers hammonds
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2015, 12:43:28 pm »

seems like saban and muschump let coach B do the work and then offer everyone he likes
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Re: bama offers hammonds
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2015, 12:44:53 pm »

I think this is about as likely as you squeezing lemonade out of a tree. he is an arkansas kid who has been committed to Arkansas for forever, but man that bama offer just swayed him and he has to go. I doubt that seriously. the kid is a hog. probably been one since birth.
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Re: bama offers hammonds
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2015, 12:50:13 pm »

Good.  I like it when Bama wants what they can't have.
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Re: bama offers hammonds
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2015, 12:50:46 pm »

What is up with all these late Bama offers.  I think that makes 3 - Hammonds, Harris, and maybe Fulton? (I know there was one other).  I haven't looked, but it seems like Bama would be about full by now. 
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Re: bama offers hammonds
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2015, 01:07:17 pm »

This is what Saban does. He knows he's stacked everywhere with talent, so he goes and finds a couple players he doesn't want the competition to have. Then those players set on the bench for three years or may never see the field.   
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Re: bama offers hammonds
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2015, 01:17:17 pm »

What is up with all these late Bama offers. 

They scared...
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Re: bama offers hammonds
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2015, 01:20:05 pm »

This is what Saban does. He knows he's stacked everywhere with talent, so he goes and finds a couple players he doesn't want the competition to have. Then those players set on the bench for three years or may never see the field.   

Oh, they see the field alright but it's on special teams.  All red shirt then play on one of the special teams the rest of their career until they are asked to step in after injury.

Players should be wise to it, but some are still sucked in...
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« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2015, 01:22:18 pm »

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Re: bama offers hammonds
« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2015, 01:32:05 pm »

Oh, they see the field alright but it's on special teams.  All red shirt then play on one of the special teams the rest of their career until they are asked to step in after injury.

Players should be wise to it, but some are still sucked in...

Yeah, it's been just awful at Alabama since Saban arrived.....stop and think for a moment.
Every Alabama recruit since Saban arrived has either won a NC or made the playoffs at least once during their career there. 

Just awful I tell you.   
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Re: bama offers hammonds
« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2015, 01:33:07 pm »

Wouldn't be surprise to see him flip. Recruiting seems to have taken a turn for the worst in the past week.
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Re: bama offers hammonds
« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2015, 01:59:09 pm »

Wouldn't be surprise to see him flip. Recruiting seems to have taken a turn for the worst in the past week.

Considering we haven't missed on any recruits or lost any of our commits I don't see how you can say that.
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Re: bama offers hammonds
« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2015, 02:03:45 pm »

Considering we haven't missed on any recruits or lost any of our commits I don't see how you can say that.
He's just trolling.
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Re: bama offers hammonds
« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2015, 02:43:19 pm »

Wouldn't be surprise to see him flip. Recruiting seems to have taken a turn for the worst in the past week.
Don't you know that every kid 'Bama offers automatically faints with excitement? That's why even if their commitment list is running over kids will pay their own way just to say they've been able to get a glimpse of the mighty god-like Saban. I don't know why we (or anyone else for that matter) even try to compete. Just going to lose their best to the folks down in T-Town anyway. (Heavy sarcasm button now off) :puke:
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Re: bama offers hammonds
« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2015, 03:09:38 pm »

Wouldn't be surprise to see him flip. Recruiting seems to have taken a turn for the worst in the past week.
He will flip. Into the endzone. When he scores a TD against Bama next year FOR THE WIN.

Too easy.
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Re: bama offers hammonds
« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2015, 03:26:07 pm »

Wouldn't be surprise to see him flip. Recruiting seems to have taken a turn for the worst in the past week.
Well you'll never have to worry about being accused of being some type of "sunshine pumper" when it comes to the Hogs. I mean who knew someone could be so positive about the home team?! ??? :puke: 
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Re: bama offers hammonds
« Reply #17 on: December 30, 2015, 03:31:51 pm »

Saban really likes CBB so he offers our commits to get the recruiting services to bump up their rankings so our class looks better. Heard it at the Catfish Shack in DeWitt
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Re: bama offers hammonds
« Reply #18 on: December 30, 2015, 03:33:00 pm »

Ive posted this over and over about Bama, they get who they want then try to steal the best recruits from the teams they play as backups///

they prey on the ignorant...any kid that dang naive --- vin gauxe…not just in football - take for example WELDING…Tulsa welding school comes in here
and hits these small arkansas schools and makes them believe can't nobody weld in the country but them…..they get these small town school kids all
pimped up to sign a contract…if they get homesick and quit after a week they get sued for the full contract about….they could have gotten the same training for basically
free AND keep their Pell Grant money to go to the local vocational school right down the road….they lie cheat and steal and its all legal…Nashvill Tenn does the same thing
with their mech. school same thing...

Bama does the same thing in college football because they can…we cannot, they can...
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Re: bama offers hammonds
« Reply #19 on: December 30, 2015, 04:16:11 pm »

Bama isn't going to get Hammonds in this or any other universe but it's pretty funny to watch the hand-wringers crawl out of their rat holes.
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« Reply #20 on: December 30, 2015, 04:27:47 pm »

The Bama offer just validates what kind of player he is. Didn't they offer Jordan Jones last year after he committed? I just like seeing our commits offer sheets grow. I was worried about Pollard and D. Harris though, I'll admit.
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Re: bama offers hammonds
« Reply #21 on: December 30, 2015, 06:02:47 pm »

Yeah, it's been just awful at Alabama since Saban arrived.....stop and think for a moment.
Every Alabama recruit since Saban arrived has either won a NC or made the playoffs at least once during their career there. 

Just awful I tell you.   

Athletes like to compete and not just watch the action from the sidelines. I know that when I played I wanted to play every snap, offense, defense and special teams. To wear a ring or call yourself a champion after riding the pine is in no way the life that true competitors want to live.

These kids that believe the hype and lies that Saban and his staff tell them earn the splinters in their butts from sitting on the bench. As soon as these kids realize what their being recruited for (scout team) then the better the rest of the SEC will be.
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« Reply #22 on: December 30, 2015, 06:12:36 pm »

Lol
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Re: bama offers hammonds
« Reply #23 on: December 30, 2015, 06:38:47 pm »

maybe I am too optimistic. But this could mean Bama knows they are not gonna get either white or whaley(spelling)
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« Reply #24 on: December 31, 2015, 10:34:45 am »

Athletes like to compete and not just watch the action from the sidelines. I know that when I played I wanted to play every snap, offense, defense and special teams. To wear a ring or call yourself a champion after riding the pine is in no way the life that true competitors want to live.

But let's pose this hypothetical:
Would you have rather played at school A (where you knew the team had little chance to win anything of consequence but you could likely step into a role with considerable playing time quickly) or school B (where you would likely be a special teams player until you either beat someone out for a position but you had a higher chance of winning titles)?


Now with respect to the second part:

These kids that believe the hype and lies that Saban and his staff tell them earn the splinters in their butts from sitting on the bench. As soon as these kids realize what their being recruited for (scout team) then the better the rest of the SEC will be.

Would you care to be more specific about that?
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« Reply #25 on: December 31, 2015, 11:11:26 am »

Yeah, it's been just awful at Alabama since Saban arrived.....stop and think for a moment.
Every Alabama recruit since Saban arrived has either won a NC or made the playoffs at least once during their career there. 

Just awful I tell you.
are you in favor of participation trophies?


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« Reply #26 on: December 31, 2015, 11:36:04 am »

are you in favor of participation trophies?


PP

Zing. +1
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Re: bama offers hammonds
« Reply #27 on: December 31, 2015, 03:44:53 pm »

are you in favor of participation trophies?


PP

While I have no idea what you are attempting to convey here, winning beats anything else.
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Re: bama offers hammonds
« Reply #28 on: December 31, 2015, 05:19:22 pm »

well, I for one wouldn't brag to much about my team being _______, if I was a bench warmer.  but that's just me.

PP
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Re: bama offers hammonds
« Reply #29 on: December 31, 2015, 05:58:18 pm »

Ive posted this over and over about Bama, they get who they want then try to steal the best recruits from the teams they play as backups///

they prey on the ignorant...any kid that dang naive --- vin gauxe…not just in football - take for example WELDING…Tulsa welding school comes in here
and hits these small arkansas schools and makes them believe can't nobody weld in the country but them…..they get these small town school kids all
pimped up to sign a contract…if they get homesick and quit after a week they get sued for the full contract about….they could have gotten the same training for basically
free AND keep their Pell Grant money to go to the local vocational school right down the road….they lie cheat and steal and its all legal…Nashvill Tenn does the same thing
with their mech. school same thing...

Bama does the same thing in college football because they can…we cannot, they can...

This is a great post!
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Re: bama offers hammonds
« Reply #30 on: December 31, 2015, 06:21:10 pm »

well, I for one wouldn't brag to much about my team being _______, if I was a bench warmer.  but that's just me.

PP

Is/Are playing special teams not being part of the team?
Is working to actually achieve a starting spot - instead of having it simply given to you - not important?

Championships are why players play.
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« Reply #31 on: December 31, 2015, 06:28:04 pm »

Championships are why players play.

Or not play and warm the bench as the case may be...
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« Reply #32 on: December 31, 2015, 06:41:08 pm »

Is/Are playing special teams not being part of the team?
Is working to actually achieve a starting spot - instead of having it simply given to you - not important?

Championships are why players play.
you and I both know, some of these kids will be content with wearing the jersey and never getting between the hashmarks....which is fine, if that's all that matters.


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« Reply #33 on: December 31, 2015, 07:17:18 pm »

problem here is y'all are wrongly assuming that Hammonds isn't good enough to play at bama. This is a kid that can fill many roles and be dangerous in any of them. We are starting him at RB with the ability to split him out . he brings a versatility that we have been missing for a while He has some of the same gifts and abilities Felix Jones brought to us.
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« Reply #34 on: December 31, 2015, 07:29:02 pm »

problem here is y'all are wrongly assuming that Hammonds isn't good enough to play at bama. This is a kid that can fill many roles and be dangerous in any of them. We are starting him at RB with the ability to split him out . he brings a versatility that we have been missing for a while He has some of the same gifts and abilities Felix Jones brought to us.
not at all, but my post in another thread still rings true....can you name an arkansas kid that has been a star while Saban has been there?


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Re: bama offers hammonds
« Reply #35 on: December 31, 2015, 11:34:11 pm »

Ardarius Stewart is a kid from one of our county schools in the Birmingham area - in fact, the smallest school in the Jefferson County system. He played both ways in high school, quarterback on offense and D.B. on defense. I saw him play several times during his high school career. He was clearly the best player on his high school team. Saban recruited him as an athlete, I think, but he knew they wanted to make him a wide receiver. He was flattered that Bama wanted him and he took the scholly. It has taken him into his junior year to start for them, but he worked hard and finally made it. I would say he's looking pretty good.

No, he's not from Arkansas, but he is from a school the size of many in Arkansas. The point is that, like him or not, Saban and his coaches tend to give a kid a chance to make it, and they do a good job developing those kids. I want us to beat Bama every time out, but I'm going to give them their due.

I want Hammonds on the Hill, but more than that, I want every kid who will work hard and play by the rules to do well and have a bright future, wherever they go.

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« Reply #36 on: January 01, 2016, 12:30:09 pm »

I guess my point is, at Bama, you better be exceptional, there is no time to work your way into playing, not the way they recruit.


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« Reply #37 on: January 01, 2016, 12:37:06 pm »

maybe I am too optimistic. But this could mean Bama knows they are not gonna get either white or whaley(spelling)


Bama has the luxury of offering kids like this late.


If they commit good.  If not the home state team has to use recruiting resources to keep kids vs improving their class.


It's a fine strategy by Bama.  Hard on "smaller" programs.
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« Reply #38 on: January 01, 2016, 01:34:26 pm »

Hammonds is Percy Harvin type talent. I believe he is ALL hog though. And I do believe that Saban offers kids at Arkansas bc he doesn't want to compete against them on the field. Before scholarship limits this was common practice among most coaches.

TJ would play at any school. He's THAT good. If you have a talent like him then you play him, period.

I hate Saban. Coming after our commits late like he does is sleazy.
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« Reply #39 on: January 01, 2016, 02:19:21 pm »

problem here is y'all are wrongly assuming that Hammonds isn't good enough to play at bama. This is a kid that can fill many roles and be dangerous in any of them. We are starting him at RB with the ability to split him out . he brings a versatility that we have been missing for a while He has some of the same gifts and abilities Felix Jones brought to us.
Excited about Hammonds I am.
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« Reply #40 on: January 01, 2016, 02:38:25 pm »

Excited about Hammonds I am.


Can tell we can.
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« Reply #41 on: January 01, 2016, 02:47:53 pm »

he can play anywhere and be a star. some of us just want him to stay home and be a hog.
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« Reply #42 on: January 01, 2016, 02:57:21 pm »

Hammonds is Percy Harvin type talent. I believe he is ALL hog though. And I do believe that Saban offers kids at Arkansas bc he doesn't want to compete against them on the field. Before scholarship limits this was common practice among most coaches.

TJ would play at any school. He's THAT good. If you have a talent like him then you play him, period.

I hate Saban. Coming after our commits late like he does is sleazy.
it's not sleazy . We are doing the same thing to fill needs . they need speed guys and we happen to have two , in jones and hammond . we saw what riddley could do and they will be looking for his replacement soon . until then these guys can help in the rfeturn game and Hammonds is the speed RB they will need next year .
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« Reply #43 on: January 01, 2016, 02:58:11 pm »

maybe I am too optimistic. But this could mean Bama knows they are not gonna get either white or whaley(spelling)

I think they've offered several running backs lately, so could be.

Just wanna add that I think the point PP is trying to make is simply that players will have more competition at Alabama, which means they're less likely to see the field.  The only place where that's not true for us may be at TE.
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« Reply #44 on: January 01, 2016, 03:05:47 pm »

Bama can only have 85 just like us. they aren't recruiting guys who can't play on their team to keep them from us. they recruit players they think can fill roles just like we do. Their role guys are just higher ranked than ours . they aren't going to sign a kid that they think will never see the field
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« Reply #45 on: January 01, 2016, 03:25:30 pm »

maybe I am too optimistic. But this could mean Bama knows they are not gonna get either white or whaley(spelling)
Maybe Saban knows White is coming to Arkansas, and he's all like " I'm just gonna take your TJ Hammonds then, cause I do what I want!"
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« Reply #46 on: January 01, 2016, 10:10:58 pm »

I don't think they are even on whaley ???
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« Reply #47 on: January 02, 2016, 03:22:05 am »

it's not sleazy . We are doing the same thing to fill needs . they need speed guys and we happen to have two , in jones and hammond . we saw what riddley could do and they will be looking for his replacement soon . until then these guys can help in the rfeturn game and Hammonds is the speed RB they will need next year .

Really ? Why be a know it all ? Saban is a sleaze bag. Have you ever watched his press conferences ? He makes Petrino look like a sweetheart. All of his success has gone to his head. And FYI Arkansas has played him uncomfortably close the last two seasons. So him coming in late and offering guys that will be important to our long term success is sleazy. If you want to say I disagree with you imo its not sleazy then go for it. But to dismiss me and just say I'm wrong ?

Its a message board and thats my opinion. Maybe you are the one whose opinions are wrong ?
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« Reply #48 on: January 02, 2016, 08:45:36 am »

Really ? Why be a know it all ? Saban is a sleaze bag. Have you ever watched his press conferences ? He makes Petrino look like a sweetheart. All of his success has gone to his head. And FYI Arkansas has played him uncomfortably close the last two seasons. So him coming in late and offering guys that will be important to our long term success is sleazy. If you want to say I disagree with you imo its not sleazy then go for it. But to dismiss me and just say I'm wrong ?

Its a message board and thats my opinion. Maybe you are the one whose opinions are wrong ?

Well then, how about some substance to some of these points? 

Did you really compare Saban to Petrino because of the content of Saban's press conferences? 

Why is Saban a sleaze bag? 

Why is it sleazy for more than one school to offer an athlete a scholarship?  Are you saying Alabama is the only school to do this?  You could look at this in the inverse - the fact that Alabama is trying to recruit some of the same players Arkansas is could be viewed as confirmation that other coaches see value in those players. 
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« Reply #49 on: January 02, 2016, 08:56:26 am »

Well then, how about some substance to some of these points? 

Did you really compare Saban to Petrino because of the content of Saban's press conferences? 

Why is Saban a sleaze bag? 

Why is it sleazy for more than one school to offer an athlete a scholarship?  Are you saying Alabama is the only school to do this?  You could look at this in the inverse - the fact that Alabama is trying to recruit some of the same players Arkansas is could be viewed as confirmation that other coaches see value in those players.
Exactly right... +1
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