Starting 5

[ErieHog]

Whitt probably leads all players in minutes played, especially if Beard doesn't come back.

A three guard lineup with Whitt and Beard playing a ton of minutes, may end up being the most positive of the potential not-rosy outcomes for this team

[opineonswine]

We're gonna suck.  Accept it. 

[ErieHog]

We're gonna suck.  Accept it. 

The question is how badly;  I can live with 17-15.   12-20 is a much more dificult thing to bear.

[TomBigBeeHog]

We're gonna suck.  Accept it.

Could be. Still might be a fun season though.

[hogsanity]

The question is how badly;  I can live with 17-15.   12-20 is a much more dificult thing to bear.

really? Coming off 27 wins, and being in year 5, is there that much difference between 17-15 and 12-20? Either way, once the SECT is over, the Hogs will be at home, while 100+ teams will be in some sort of post season play.

[opineonswine]

Could be. Still might be a fun season though.

Losing is never fun for me.

[HoopS]

really? Coming off 27 wins, and being in year 5, is there that much difference between 17-15 and 12-20? Either way, once the SECT is over, the Hogs will be at home, while 100+ teams will be in some sort of post season play.

yes, a 5 game swing is pretty substantial. 37.5% vs 53%. I'm hoping we are 18+ though.

5 new starters. Gonna be interesting. I honestly do not expect an NIT or better berth this season but will absolutely expect an NCAAT berth the following season or I wil be good for pulling the plug on this.

[Big Nasty 34]

Could be. Still might be a fun season though.

Fun if you don't keep up with the score and only watch to see the progression of guys like Thompson and Whitt.

[ErieHog]

really? Coming off 27 wins, and being in year 5, is there that much difference between 17-15 and 12-20? Either way, once the SECT is over, the Hogs will be at home, while 100+ teams will be in some sort of post season play.

Yes, really.    There is a massive difference between the two.

[Dominicanhog]

why would I be laughing at that? It was a bad loss. What I have found comical is that many of those freaking out saying BB needs to go, are the same ones willing to give Mike 50 years.

and vise versa...

[bigdaddyhawg]

And of course if Beard makes it back he'll eventually take that starting PG spot.

Not flaming here at all, so indulge me a moment please, just seeking info and your perspective on this: how do you think Beard is going to get back??

Is Mike going to bring him back on the team after what he's been alleged to be involved in?

[HOGINTENNESSEE]

Not flaming here at all, so indulge me a moment please, just seeking info and your perspective on this: how do you think Beard is going to get back??

Is Mike going to bring him back on the team after what he's been alleged to be involved in?

He is currently still allowing him to stay on scholarship and be enrolled in classes.

IMO if his punishment in the court system is minimal he will be back

[HOGINTENNESSEE]

really? Coming off 27 wins, and being in year 5, is there that much difference between 17-15 and 12-20? Either way, once the SECT is over, the Hogs will be at home, while 100+ teams will be in some sort of post season play.

You can't be serious. There is a massive difference between 17-15 and 12-20

[bigdaddyhawg]

He is currently still allowing him to stay on scholarship and be enrolled in classes.

IMO if his punishment in the court system is minimal he will be back

I'm a little stunned by this.  I never even considered Mike would bring him back, based on the crime involved, and that it wasn't a "mistake", but rather a criminal enterprise.

Man, the sliding ethical standard in play.  I'm disappointed if this happens.  I like Beard and his play, though I didn't think he was a difference maker, but more of a solid role player, but I'm more than surprised Mike would allow him to come back.

[TomBigBeeHog]

I'm a little stunned by this.  I never even considered Mike would bring him back, based on the crime involved, and that it wasn't a "mistake", but rather a criminal enterprise.

Man, the sliding ethical standard in play.  I'm disappointed if this happens.  I like Beard and his play, though I didn't think he was a difference maker, but more of a solid role player, but I'm more than surprised Mike would allow him to come back.

What was the extent of this criminal enterprise? Have they been charged with conspiracy? Did they print the money? Distribute it throughout the area? Pass it at numerous businesses? Intimidate witnesses? Destroy evidence?

Just wondering because all I know so far came from the newspaper and TV reports. Nothing suggested criminal enterprise or something of that nature.

[hawginbigd1]

I'm a little stunned by this.  I never even considered Mike would bring him back, based on the crime involved, and that it wasn't a "mistake", but rather a criminal enterprise.

Man, the sliding ethical standard in play.  I'm disappointed if this happens.  I like Beard and his play, though I didn't think he was a difference maker, but more of a solid role player, but I'm more than surprised Mike would allow him to come back.

I just believe if the system treats him mildly by charging a lesser crime, or if he provides testimony and doesn't get convicted at all, then there is no basis for removing him from the program. Innocent until proven guilty. I am not sure that you could legitimately view that as a sliding ethical standard if he returns convicted of a misdemeanor or nothing.

[bigdaddyhawg]

What was the extent of this criminal enterprise? Have they been charged with conspiracy? Did they print the money? Distribute it throughout the area? Pass it at numerous businesses? Intimidate witnesses? Destroy evidence?

Just wondering because all I know so far came from the newspaper and TV reports. Nothing suggested criminal enterprise or something of that nature.

OK, maybe my take is wrong.  Did they not get together and do a deal that got them charged with counterfeiting?

Are prosecutors making these charges up?  I think the FBI was involved, so they'd also have to be involved in railroading these guys.  Is that what you're saying?

[bigdaddyhawg]

I just believe if the system treats him mildly by charging a lesser crime, or if he provides testimony and doesn't get convicted at all, then there is no basis for removing him from the program. Innocent until proven guilty. I am not sure that you could legitimately view that as a sliding ethical standard if he returns convicted of a misdemeanor or nothing.

OK, I hear what you're saying, but whatever the final charge he pleads to doesn't change what he actually did, does it??

That sounds to me a little like the Famous Jameis story at FSU -- "well, he wasn't charged with rape, so it's OK"??

And don't misunderstand, I'm not comparing what these kids did to what Winston did, just comparing the philosophy that justified keeping him playing ball.

[TheRazorbackGuy]

We're gonna suck.  Accept it. 

I just hope fans don't bring bagheads to the game. Dr. Jeffrey Long wouldn't like it

[TomBigBeeHog]

I just hope fans don't bring bagheads to the game. Dr. Jeffrey Long wouldn't like it

When/if you come to game, wear your bag so I'll know who you are.

[hawginbigd1]

OK, I hear what you're saying, but whatever the final charge he pleads to doesn't change what he actually did, does it??

That sounds to me a little like the Famous Jameis story at FSU -- "well, he wasn't charged with rape, so it's OK"??

And don't misunderstand, I'm not comparing what these kids did to what Winston did, just comparing the philosophy that justified keeping him playing ball.

Don't disagree with what you are stating, we all know somewhat what he did, but you can only legitimately go with what happens in the justice system IMO, and apparenlty the young man has never had any legal issues so I could see extending an opportunity to make amends.

Not everyone has had the same life experiences as I have, but if they had, they would find that what Beanum did is much more egregious than what Beard et al did, and I don't believe Beanum missed a down.

[azhog10]

I'm a little stunned by this.  I never even considered Mike would bring him back, based on the crime involved, and that it wasn't a "mistake", but rather a criminal enterprise.

Man, the sliding ethical standard in play.  I'm disappointed if this happens.  I like Beard and his play, though I didn't think he was a difference maker, but more of a solid role player, but I'm more than surprised Mike would allow him to come back.

You disappointed with mike? You don't say..........

sarcasm/off

[azhog10]

Don't disagree with what you are stating, we all know somewhat what he did, but you can only legitimately go with what happens in the justice system IMO, and apparenlty the young man has never had any legal issues so I could see extending an opportunity to make amends.

Not everyone has had the same life experiences as I have, but if they had, they would find that what Beanum did is much more egregious than what Beard et al did, and I don't believe Beanum missed a down.

Couldn't agree more. Tevin put peoples life in danger along with his own. Beard and others did something very stupid no matter their reason. BUT what they did could have never resulted in killing someone or putting someone in a bad state physically like those that drink and drive. Plain and simple.

[hogsanity]

Don't disagree with what you are stating, we all know somewhat what he did, but you can only legitimately go with what happens in the justice system IMO, and apparenlty the young man has never had any legal issues so I could see extending an opportunity to make amends.

Not everyone has had the same life experiences as I have, but if they had, they would find that what Beanum did is much more egregious than what Beard et al did, and I don't believe Beanum missed a down.

On the issue of Beard, I am with Mike whatever he decides to do. This is a legal issue, so let the legal system dictate punishment. If the legal system lets him stay out of prison ( which is the likely outcome unless they found other things we do not know about ), and Mike lets him play, no one should have a problem with that. And, if Mike were to decide that it would be better that he not play this season, I am with Mike on that as well.

[bigdaddyhawg]

On the issue of Beard, I am with Mike whatever he decides to do. This is a legal issue, so let the legal system dictate punishment. If the legal system lets him stay out of prison ( which is the likely outcome unless they found other things we do not know about ), and Mike lets him play, no one should have a problem with that. And, if Mike were to decide that it would be better that he not play this season, I am with Mike on that as well.

I'm not with you on this perspective.

I don't want "criminal elements" playing sports for my beloved Razorbacks.  It's low class.  It's conforming to the world, and that's not what Mike's program is supposed to be about.  At least, I've been told he's a man with high morals, and I have had no reason to doubt that.

IMO it's one thing if a kid makes a mistake, DWI/DUI, or something along the lines of a young kid making a stupid decision.  But this deal IS the action of criminals.  A kid that does this kind of deal is not a quality person, has no character, and should not be on scholarship at the UA, period.  I don't care how much the team needs him.  And I don't care what charge the legal system ends up settling with him on. 

It doesn't change the fact the kid has shown his character to anyone watching.  It's not ok.

[azhog10]

I'm not with you on this perspective.

I don't want "criminal elements" playing sports for my beloved Razorbacks.  It's low class.  It's conforming to the world, and that's not what Mike's program is supposed to be about.  At least, I've been told he's a man with high morals, and I have had no reason to doubt that.

IMO it's one thing if a kid makes a mistake, DWI/DUI, or something along the lines of a young kid making a stupid decision.  But this deal IS the action of criminals.  A kid that does this kind of deal is not a quality person, has no character, and should not be on scholarship at the UA, period.  I don't care how much the team needs him.  And I don't care what charge the legal system ends up settling with him on. 

It doesn't change the fact the kid has shown his character to anyone watching.  It's not ok.

So a minor who can't purchase alcohol gets his hands on alcohol, uses it, then gets behind a piece of machinary and operates it that could potentially kill people is okay and not the action of criminals......

BUT

Someone who gets counterfit money (nothing has came out as to how he got that money just like someone getting their hands on alcohol that is illegal to a minor) and uses it and/or tries to get change with said counterfit money is not okay and is the action of criminals?

Lastly what you meant to say is "I don't care what the legal system says, but Mike Anderson shouldn't have anyone that has committed any crime on his roster but Brett Bieleman can?

OR

DUI's are so common now a days that you have "conformed" and think that DUIs aren't a big deal, but because counterfit money isn't as talked about it is a much much bigger deal that Beard should be gone from the program.......

[TomBigBeeHog]

I don't want "criminal elements" playing sports for my beloved Razorbacks.  It's low class.  It's conforming to the world, and that's not what Mike's program is supposed to be about.  At least, I've been told he's a man with high morals, and I have had no reason to doubt that.

It doesn't change the fact the kid has shown his character to anyone watching.  It's not ok.

People can change.

Saul went from persecuting Christians to becoming a great apostle.

Jesus and the woman taken in adultery. (he who is without sin, let him cast the first stone)

Jesus and the parable about the prodigal son.

Just saying.

[TomBigBeeHog]

On the issue of Beard, I am with Mike whatever he decides to do. This is a legal issue, so let the legal system dictate punishment. If the legal system lets him stay out of prison ( which is the likely outcome unless they found other things we do not know about ), and Mike lets him play, no one should have a problem with that. And, if Mike were to decide that it would be better that he not play this season, I am with Mike on that as well.

[bigdaddyhawg]

So a minor who can't purchase alcohol gets his hands on alcohol, uses it, then gets behind a piece of machinary and operates it that could potentially kill people is okay and not the action of criminals......

BUT

Someone who gets counterfit money (nothing has came out as to how he got that money just like someone getting their hands on alcohol that is illegal to a minor) and uses it and/or tries to get change with said counterfit money is not okay and is the action of criminals?

Lastly what you meant to say is "I don't care what the legal system says, but Mike Anderson shouldn't have anyone that has committed any crime on his roster but Brett Bieleman can?

OR

DUI's are so common now a days that you have "conformed" and think that DUIs aren't a big deal, but because counterfit money isn't as talked about it is a much much bigger deal that Beard should be gone from the program.......

I think you misunderstood my point, but I thank you for clarifying the seriousness of DWI/DUI.

[hawginbigd1]

Couldn't agree more. Tevin put peoples life in danger along with his own. Beard and others did something very stupid no matter their reason. BUT what they did could have never resulted in killing someone or putting someone in a bad state physically like those that drink and drive. Plain and simple.

Correct! Been giving meds, buying wheelchair ramp vans, and changing diapers for 25 years thanks to an 18 year old that made this decision in 1991! My son is almost 26! He never got the opportunity to live his life and make poor decisions!

[bigdaddyhawg]

People can change.

Saul went from persecuting Christians to becoming a great apostle.

Jesus and the woman taken in adultery. (he who is without sin, let him cast the first stone)

Jesus and the parable about the prodigal son.

Just saying.

Come on, friend, you know that's not what I was saying.  I'm not saying any of us should give up on these kids.  I'd minister the Gospel to Anton in a heartbeat.

But playing basketball at the UA is not a right, it's a privilege, and IMO Anton and those guys have betrayed the privilege and do not deserve another shot at that.  I'm sure Anton can get on scholarship somewhere else and if he stays out of trouble he can get a good education at another school.  So it's like booting him off the team permanently kills his chance at having a quality education or a quality life.

But I hold Razorback players to a higher standard.   I thought that's one of the things I could count on most strongly in Mike as the leader of our program.

[azhog10]

I think you misunderstood my point, but I thank you for clarifying the seriousness of DWI/DUI.

I understood your point very well. You think DUI's aren't a big deal as compared to what Beard did. I don't view it that way. If a college kid gets his hands on fake money and realizes it or doesn't realize it and tries to use it, or exchange it, I don't view that as anything other than a kid being stupid and breaking the law. Same goes for someone who comes in possession of a substance that he isn't legalized to have and uses it. I don't condem CBB for playing Tevin and I won't CMA.

[azhog10]

But I hold Razorback Basketball players to a higher standard than Razorback Football players.   I thought that's one of the things I could count on most strongly in Mike as the leader of our program and give CBB a pass.

Fixed it for you.......

[bigdaddyhawg]

I understood your point very well. You think DUI's aren't a big deal as compared to what Beard did.

I need to ask you to stop putting words in my mouth?  I'm capable of speaking for myself, thank you very much.

Yes, there is a difference between DWI and what Anton and those kids did.  Getting too drunk to drive safely is usually not something that people decide beforehand to do.  Sometimes alcoholism is involved, sometimes it's the stupidity of college kids getting carried away. 

But what Anton did he didn't "get carried away with". It required planning and forethought.  Hence, I call it a criminal activity versus a really stupid, dangerous decision.

I hope you get the point I'm making, but either way, stop trying to put words in my mouth.  It's dishonest.

[azhog10]

I need to ask you to stop putting words in my mouth?  I'm capable of speaking for myself, thank you very much.

Yes, there is a difference between DWI and what Anton and those kids did.  Getting too drunk to drive safely is usually not something that people decide beforehand to do.  Sometimes alcoholism is involved, sometimes it's the stupidity of college kids getting carried away. 

But what Anton did he didn't "get carried away with". It required planning and forethought.  Hence, I call it a criminal activity versus a really stupid, dangerous decision.

I hope you get the point I'm making, but either way, stop trying to put words in my mouth.  It's dishonest.

I would love to see you "share the gospel" with Anton and explain your double standard. Apparently you know much more than anyone on here since you are aware of his "planning and forethought". I guess when a minor gets his hands on alcohol and puts his keys into the ignition of a car and drives didn't require "planning and forethought". Thanks for clearing that up for me.

[bigdaddyhawg]

Fixed it for you.......

Stop.

To begin with, your changing my words to fit your agenda is very dishonest and disingenuous.

Second, that's not my belief.  I don't want a criminal element playing any sport at the UA.  I don't EVER want us to be like LSU, or FSU, or OM, or any other football factory.

If you weren't so busy pushing your DA agenda, you'd bother to check and see I've stated many times I'd rather NEVER, EVER win another championship in ANY sport than win with questionable character kids who were recruited in questionable ways.

You're so busy defending Mike, you haven't even bothered to ask the question I'm asking here.  Why has this supposedly man of the highest character and morality willing to keep a kid who is a criminal?

[bigdaddyhawg]

I would love to see you "share the gospel" with Anton and explain your double standard. Apparently you know much more than anyone on here since you are aware of his "planning and forethought". I guess when a minor gets his hands on alcohol and puts his keys into the ignition of a car and drives didn't require "planning and forethought". Thanks for clearing that up for me.

Is Beard your boyfriend or something along those lines?  You are expending a lot of energy to attack me every which way you can, even if it means lying.

[azhog10]

Stop.

To begin with, your changing my words to fit your agenda is very dishonest and disingenuous.

Second, that's not my belief.  I don't want a criminal element playing any sport at the UA.  I don't EVER want us to be like LSU, or FSU, or OM, or any other football factory.

If you weren't so busy pushing your DA agenda, you'd bother to check and see I've stated many times I'd rather NEVER, EVER win another championship in ANY sport than win with questionable character kids who were recruited in questionable ways.

You're so busy defending Mike, you haven't even bothered to ask the question I'm asking here.  Why has this supposedly man of the highest character and morality willing to keep a kid who is a criminal?

Becaue he, just like Bret Bielema (who you dont want to address) believes that the kid made a mistake. Just like the mistake of a DUI which you are comfortable with letting go. It's you, who has decided to accept some criminals while rejecting others.

Was Anton dishonest? Yes. Was Tevin dishonest when he drank as a minor and got behind the wheel? Yes. But to you one is a criminal who should not receive a "privaledge" and the other is not.

[azhog10]

Is Beard your boyfriend or something along those lines?  You are expending a lot of energy to attack me every which way you can, even if it means lying.

What am I lying about? I just don't like the double standard you talk out of one side of your mouth about and then "preach gospel and morality" out of the other.

He who cast stones........

[TomBigBeeHog]

He who cast stones........

Should tryout for the baseball team??   

[bigdaddyhawg]

What am I lying about? I just don't like the double standard you talk out of one side of your mouth about and then "preach gospel and morality" out of the other.

He who cast stones........

OK, because apparently you're not very bright, I'll take the time out of my day to try one more time to explain it:

I'm not saying anyone should "give up" on Anton.  On the contrary, as I said, I'd gladly reach out to him to help him.  If I were Mike I'd do whatever I could to help him find another program he could get on scholarship and get his education.  That kind of thing happens all the time.  It's not the end of Anton's future, or his education, or even his BB career.  All that's still before him. 

It just shouldn't be at the UA.  IMO he's forfeited his right to play BB at the UA.

Is it really that hard to understand?

There's no double standard in that.

[bigdaddyhawg]

Becaue he, just like Bret Bielema (who you dont want to address) believes that the kid made a mistake. Just like the mistake of a DUI which you are comfortable with letting go.

That's a lie.  I never said I was comfortable with letting it go.  I believe CBB laid out some serious discipline for Tevin, didn't he??  He also openly stated another problem and he'd be gone.

That was his disciplinary course of action with Korliss Marshall. 

But unless you have information that a kid intentionally went out and committed pre-mediated criminal acts, felonies even, then YOU are the one who is showing your double standard in working so hard to defend Mike's rear end against any attack, the truth be darned.

[azhog10]

That's a lie.  I never said I was comfortable with letting it go.  I believe CBB laid out some serious discipline for Tevin, didn't he??  He also openly stated another problem and he'd be gone.

That was his disciplinary course of action with Korliss Marshall. 

But unless you have information that a kid intentionally went out and committed pre-mediated criminal acts, felonies even, then YOU are the one who is showing your double standard in working so hard to defend Mike's rear end against any attack, the truth be darned.

So you know what discipline CMA has laid out for Anton? You also think if Mike were to take away Anton's car or something to that effect it would be okay?

You have stated you think Mike should let Anton go. That is not what CBB did, but if CMA came out and gave Anton "serious discipline" you would then be okay with it? Of course you wouldn't.

I'm not saying that Tevin did or didn't pre-meditate it. I just think it's funny you try to explain why one crime (one that could actually kill people) is okay, but the another (one that doesn't harm anyone physically) is not. You are okay with one being "blessed off" by your football coach, but another is reprehensible.

[-Blu]

Bigdaddyhawg, you are putting your foot all in your mouth in this thread.  There's so much hypocrisy in your statements it's almost unreal.  So, CBB let's someone back on the team for DUI (something that is very dangerous and puts others in severe danger), and you have so much respect for him because he really disciplined the kid by taking his car. Yet if CMA let's a kid let's a kid back on the team for having a few counterfeit dollars ($300), you would lose all respect for him because apparently Beard is some kind of a criminal mastermind that forfeited his right to play sports at the UofA because he took some fake bills from somebody.  But, your willing to preach the gospel to him as a consolation prize on his way out the door.  Did I miss anything?

[bigdaddyhawg]

Bigdaddyhawg, you are putting your foot all in your mouth in this thread.  There's so much hypocrisy in your statements it's almost unreal.  So, CBB let's someone back on the team for DUI (something that is very dangerous and puts others in severe danger), and you have so much respect for him because he really disciplined the kid by taking his car. Yet if CMA let's a kid let's a kid back on the team for having a few counterfeit dollars ($300), you would lose all respect for him because apparently Beard is some kind of a criminal mastermind that forfeited his right to play sports at the UofA because he took some fake bills from somebody.  But, your willing to preach the gospel to him as a consolation prize on his way out the door.  Did I miss anything?

I expected you to join in with the other dolt in twisting my words every which way you can.

One thing you guys want to ignore: I don't think any football players currently on the team have been charged with felonies, are there?

Yes, DWI/DUI is serious, which is why disciplinary action is taken.  But FELONIES are more serious, WHICH IS WHY THEY ARE FELONIES TO BEGIN WITH!!

But, go ahead, and continue to play your little word games -- you guys are at least consistent in doing whatever you must, including misrepresenting the truth, in your committment to cover your God of Arkansas Basketball.

[bigdaddyhawg]

Now that I've addressed the Mike Apologist Army, I will say this: I will be disappointed with Mike if he lets Anton come back on the team.

I believed Mike was the only guy we could hire at the time Pelphrey was let go.  I supported the hire.  I didn't think Mike was the best available coach, and I still don't -- but that's not Mike's fault.  It's just the way things had to play out.

I think Mike is a good, but not great coach, and I think the results so far have been true to my beliefs.

BUT BUT BUT, the one thing I did feel GREAT about Mike Anderson is that I believed he is a truly good guy, a guy who was going to run our BB program the right way, always.

If AB comes back to the team, it will be the first time I've felt truly disappointed in Mike's leadership of the program.  I believe Anton should be let go to play somewhere else. 

And I still hope that Mike will make the right decision, the right decision for the UA and its' BB program in terms of the big picture.  Players come and go.  But IMO Mike's leadership is at stake here, and I sincerely hope he makes us proud that he's the guy leading our program.

[UNCLE BACK]

I wish Anton the best of luck but I see no reason to bring him back if he truly did do this crime ( which it looks like he for sure did ) I hope he can learn from mistakes and get on the right track in his life.

[TomBigBeeHog]

Counterfeiting, like knowingly writing a hot check, is a form of theft by deception. For the amounts involved, this is on par with shoplifting a pair of pants and a couple of shirts from Dillard's.

[-Blu]

Yes, DWI/DUI is serious, which is why disciplinary action is taken.  But FELONIES are more serious, WHICH IS WHY THEY ARE FELONIES TO BEGIN WITH!!

But, go ahead, and continue to play your little word games -- you guys are at least consistent in doing whatever you must, including misrepresenting the truth, in your committment to cover your God of Arkansas Basketball.

I don't know about you, but I'd rather someone give me a few fake bills than be driving beside me drunk.  I can make that $300 back, however I can't get my life back if a drunk driver crashes into me.  But by all means downplay a DUI, and act like a kid trying to get some free stuff with money is so much worse.

I expected you to join in with the other dolt in twisting my words every which way you can.

No need for name calling, I didn't call you any names. I guarantee you wouldn't call me that to my face, so don't try to be a tough guy behind a computer.  You can discuss stuff without resorting to that.  I would expect a guy that's offering to preach the gospel to people to have a little more respect for people than that.

[azhog10]

Now that I've addressed the Mike Apologist Army, I will say this: I will be disappointed with Mike if he lets Anton come back on the team.

I believed Mike was the only guy we could hire at the time Pelphrey was let go.  I supported the hire.  I didn't think Mike was the best available coach, and I still don't -- but that's not Mike's fault.  It's just the way things had to play out.

I think Mike is a good, but not great coach, and I think the results so far have been true to my beliefs.

BUT BUT BUT, the one thing I did feel GREAT about Mike Anderson is that I believed he is a truly good guy, a guy who was going to run our BB program the right way, always.

If AB comes back to the team, it will be the first time I've felt truly disappointed in Mike's leadership of the program.  I believe Anton should be let go to play somewhere else. 

And I still hope that Mike will make the right decision, the right decision for the UA and its' BB program in terms of the big picture.  Players come and go.  But IMO Mike's leadership is at stake here, and I sincerely hope he makes us proud that he's the guy leading our program.

You say if AB comes back it will be the first time you've been disappointed with Mikes leadership? Really? You can't be serious.

AB has been accused of felony charges but has not been found guilty. If he pleas to a misdemeanor it would be no different than a DUI. But you will still consider him a criminal and Mr Beanum is not. You are judging a kid before he's given his opportunity to defend himself.

You are judging based off of little facts and you say that you always respected Mike but won't if Anton comes back. But CBB can have minors drinking and driving, pissing on light poles and such but you are all good with that. I'm comfortable with all those kids recieving their punishment via the justice system and if there's any punishment the coaches want to give out on top of that.

But acting as if taking a kids car away was such a strict punishment is laughable. About as laughable as saying you have never been disappointed wiTh Mike but you will be if AB plays for the Hogs ever again.

Wow!