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razortv

Quote from: intelligence on March 28, 2015, 09:51:29 pm
Amen. i hope CMA is watching and taking some notes. ND has a very exciting brand of ball

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Razorback_Mack

Quote from: Dr. Starcs on March 28, 2015, 10:01:27 pm
Nd choked at the end and you could see it coming.
ND didn't choke lmao. UK shot 75% in the 2nd half.

 

razorJAcker

Quote from: Atlhogfan1 on March 28, 2015, 10:00:47 pm
Too bad Grant decided to take the game on himself those last few possessions. 


Oh well.  LETS GO DUKE!

Yeah, hero ball is exactly the opposite of how they got in position to win the game. 


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Ok Wisconsin you have seen how to beat them.
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passinghog

It's crazy how Harrison puts his head down and is too slow to get past his man off the bounce, but they call a whistle almost every time on the drive.

lookawayquick

Nothing heroic, just solid play the last 3 minutes. KAT killed ND.

Breems

This is so friggen boring. Wisconsin doesn't stand a chance against UK.

I have resigned from March Madness for this year.
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Hog and Eggs

Well, it will be interesting watching them against wisky. The UK big men are going to have fits with Kaminsky.

latrops

Quote from: Karma on March 28, 2015, 10:02:34 pm
Of course Harrison lowers his head and gets bailed out. All year long.

Well, it was clearly a blocking foul.  Hate that the ND player couldn't slide over quick enough...but it had to be called that way.

Breems

Quote from: Showtimehog on March 28, 2015, 10:04:41 pm
It's crazy how Harrison puts his head down and is too slow to get past his man off the bounce, but they call a whistle almost every time on the drive.

The Harrison twins are the most annoying things to watch in basketball. They cry after every friggen possession.
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mckinneyhog5

Quote from: Razorback_Mack on March 28, 2015, 10:04:02 pm
ND didn't choke lmao. UK shot 75% in the 2nd half.
Yeah but Callipari said they (Kentucky) didn't play well tonight.  He didn't even give credit to ND in his interview leaving the floor.  God I hate them.
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According to the official Hogville rulebook that was a charge. In all seriousness Wisconsin will win by 10-12 points.
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Dr. Starcs

Quote from: Razorback_Mack on March 28, 2015, 10:04:02 pm
ND didn't choke lmao. UK shot 75% in the 2nd half.

Reading comprehension is good. The words "at the end" were critical in my statement. 2/5 free throws and jacking up contested shots for the last 4 minutes is my evidence of a choke. They played great for 35 minutes. But definitely blew it late.

Atlhogfan1

We'll see if Frank The Flop can stay out of foul trouble against the UK frontcourt.  Saw some veteran moves from Wisconsin today in trying to bait the officials.  Could frustrate the UK underclassmen. 
Quote from: MaconBacon on March 22, 2018, 10:30:04 amWe had a good run in the 90's and one NC and now the whole state still laments that we are a top seed program and have kids standing in line to come to good ole Arkansas.  We're just a flash in the pan boys. 

Hog and Eggs

Quote from: Breems on March 28, 2015, 10:05:08 pm
This is so friggen boring. Wisconsin doesn't stand a chance against UK.

I have resigned from March Madness for this year.

You are kidding right? Wisky has shooters at all positions. They will face the best big man they have seen all year. Wisky is a team who actually won't be far undersized.

panhandlepig

Quote from: Breems on March 28, 2015, 10:02:24 pm
God, I [CENSORED] hate Kentucky. This is such a boring March.

  I hate Kentucky too. I wasn't bored tonight...at all.  I cheered for Notre Dame for the first time ever. It's March. Strange things happen.  I hate Kentucky and will cheer for whomever they play.

mckinneyhog5

Quote from: Hogfan991 on March 28, 2015, 10:07:16 pm
According to the official Hogville rulebook that was a charge. In all seriousness Wisconsin will win by 10-12 points.
Wisconsin will give them an even better game.  I wasn't sold on Wisconsin untill i saw what they did to Arizona.  They have the height to go along with shooters.
Quote from: mckinneyhog5 on April 07, 2019, 10:29:55 pmGuys, we have hired the BEST coach that we could have hired. Musselman is gonna rock it here like we haven't seen since the early 90's. Just sit back and watch it unfold! We WILL be a nationally recognized program again soon.

Breems

Quote from: Hog and Eggs on March 28, 2015, 10:08:52 pm
You are kidding right? Wisky has shooters at all positions. They will face the best big man they have seen all year. Wisky is a team who actually won't be far undersized.

Frank will be shut down pretty easily and Wisconsin isn't fast enough. 10+ point loss.
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thebignasty

Quote from: Dr. Starcs on March 28, 2015, 10:07:51 pm
Reading comprehension is good. The words "at the end" were critical in my statement. 2/5 free throws and jacking up contested shots for the last 4 minutes is my evidence of a choke. They played great for 35 minutes. But definitely blew it late.
That happens when a superior team leans on you all game.


I hate both Notre Dame and Kentucky, and preferred some sort of apocalyptic event to either team winning.  Which is to say I feel my opinion was pretty objective.

Atlhogfan1

I wouldn't say it was a choke.  But Grant hogging the ball the last two minutes, not having something out of the break when there was one second on the shot clock and not double teaming Townes down the stretch didn't make sense.  Grant was hoping one prayer would go in. 
Quote from: MaconBacon on March 22, 2018, 10:30:04 amWe had a good run in the 90's and one NC and now the whole state still laments that we are a top seed program and have kids standing in line to come to good ole Arkansas.  We're just a flash in the pan boys. 

UKChamps

Whew!  We need to practice hard this week.  Wisconsin is a lot better than ND.

Hogfaniam

Quote from: mckinneyhog5 on March 28, 2015, 10:06:48 pm
Yeah but Callipari said they (Kentucky) didn't play well tonight.  He didn't even give credit to ND in his interview leaving the floor.  God I hate them.

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Atlhogfan1

Wisconsin had to go 12-18 from 3 to get a 7pt win today. 
Quote from: MaconBacon on March 22, 2018, 10:30:04 amWe had a good run in the 90's and one NC and now the whole state still laments that we are a top seed program and have kids standing in line to come to good ole Arkansas.  We're just a flash in the pan boys. 

 

passinghog

Quote from: Breems on March 28, 2015, 10:06:22 pm
The Harrison twins are the most annoying things to watch in basketball. They cry after every friggen possession.

Like guys are practically backpedaling when they drive the ball and still get called for blocking fouls, etc. Maybe not there, but it's a constant over the last 2 seasons. 

Karma

This feels like an Arkansas loss.

hoglady

I'm still trying to figure out what happened to that splendid ND offense the last couple of minutes.
Horrible possessions, no ball movement, no driving the lane, settling for horrible shots.
It's like I was watching a totally different team.
They just blew it.
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Pigasaurus

Quote from: Danny J on March 28, 2015, 10:00:45 pm
I feel really bad for those ND kids and their coach. I am going to be honest I was pulling for UK because I want them to win it all so Cal leaves UK which would help our chances with Monk. Still feel really bad for ND though.

Same here.  Feels strange and wrong either way.
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thebignasty

Quote from: Atlhogfan1 on March 28, 2015, 10:11:22 pm
I wouldn't say it was a choke.  But Grant hogging the ball the last two minutes, not having something out of the break when there was one second on the shot clock and not double teaming Townes down the stretch didn't make sense.  Grant was hoping one prayer would go in.
The last possession tells you that at least Grant was convinced that ND couldn't win in OT.

ADavisTheGOAT

Quote from: hoglady on March 28, 2015, 10:13:13 pm
I'm still trying to figure out what happened to that splendid ND offense the last couple of minutes.
Horrible possessions, no ball movement, no driving the lane, settling for horrible shots.
It's like I was watching a totally different team.
They just blew it.
They let Grant take control of the offense and take stupid stepbacks that had 0 chance of going in.
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Atlhogfan1

Quote from: hoglady on March 28, 2015, 10:13:13 pm
I'm still trying to figure out what happened to that splendid ND offense the last couple of minutes.
Horrible possessions, no ball movement, no driving the lane, settling for horrible shots.
It's like I was watching a totally different team.
They just blew it.

I can't remember any player other than Grant touching the ball the last 3 possessions. 
Quote from: MaconBacon on March 22, 2018, 10:30:04 amWe had a good run in the 90's and one NC and now the whole state still laments that we are a top seed program and have kids standing in line to come to good ole Arkansas.  We're just a flash in the pan boys. 

HSVhogfan2

Quote from: Razorback_Mack on March 28, 2015, 09:50:57 pm
Brey is just the better coach. Not even remotely debatable.

Difference late was Cal subbing offense/defense and Bray not doing it. August is a great offensive player (especially with Grant at PG) but was getting raped on defense. Bray had another big on the bench who was a great defender.
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HSVhogfan2

Quote from: Hogfan991 on March 28, 2015, 10:14:12 pm
They let Grant take control of the offense and take stupid stepbacks that had 0 chance of going in.

LOL. Except for,the 35 footer that gave them the lead.
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Quote from: thebignasty on March 28, 2015, 10:14:01 pm
The last possession tells you that at least Grant was convinced that ND couldn't win in OT.

They couldn't have with Auguste with 4 fouls and refusing to double Townes.  Going for 3 was right.  Brey had blown his timeouts though and they had no play to get Connaughton a 3.  I would have rather seen him from halfcourt than Grant with the ball again. 
Quote from: MaconBacon on March 22, 2018, 10:30:04 amWe had a good run in the 90's and one NC and now the whole state still laments that we are a top seed program and have kids standing in line to come to good ole Arkansas.  We're just a flash in the pan boys. 

Karma

Quote from: pigasaurus on March 28, 2015, 10:13:42 pm
Same here.  Feels strange and wrong either way.
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Hog and Eggs

Quote from: Breems on March 28, 2015, 10:10:32 pm
Frank will be shut down pretty easily and Wisconsin isn't fast enough. 10+ point loss.


Not sure how you figure that. They didn't do it last year. Who exactly is going to do the shutting down? He has been playing against superior athletes all year. Wisconsin doesn't have to be fast. In fact, they want to slow it down. Arizona had far superior athletes and they beat them. Frank has to be guarded on the perimeter, who is going to do that? He also had the dribbling ability to take it to the hoop. Best big man UK has seen all year.

Atlhogfan1

Quote from: HSVhogfan2 on March 28, 2015, 10:15:16 pm
LOL. Except for,the 35 footer that gave them the lead.

Why are you laughing?  No other Irish player took a shot and I can't remember one touching the ball the last 2:36. 
Quote from: MaconBacon on March 22, 2018, 10:30:04 amWe had a good run in the 90's and one NC and now the whole state still laments that we are a top seed program and have kids standing in line to come to good ole Arkansas.  We're just a flash in the pan boys. 

HSVhogfan2

Quote from: mckinneyhog5 on March 28, 2015, 10:10:22 pm
Wisconsin will give them an even better game.  I wasn't sold on Wisconsin untill i saw what they did to Arizona.  They have the height to go along with shooters.

KY main area of emphasis is guarding the 3. If Wiscy doesn't hit something like 16 tonight they lose. Don't see them doing that against KY. But they will have a huge mismatch for KY in Dekker.
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Quote from: Atlhogfan1 on March 28, 2015, 10:12:49 pm
Wisconsin had to go 12-18 from 3 to get a 7pt win today.

And UK had to shoot like 70% in the second half to win today. So what's your point?

thebignasty

Quote from: Hog and Eggs on March 28, 2015, 10:17:59 pm

Not sure how you figure that. They didn't do it last year. Who exactly is going to do the shutting down? He has been playing against superior athletes all year. Wisconsin doesn't have to be fast. In fact, they want to slow it down. Arizona had far superior athletes and they beat them. Frank has to be guarded on the perimeter, who is going to do that? He also had the dribbling ability to take it to the hoop. Best big man UK has seen all year.
Kaminsky will get his, but Cauley-Stein is about the best match up on him anyone is going to have. Dekker for Wisconsin, and Towns for Kentucky are the guys that look like mismatch problems for the opposing team.

ErieHog

Quote from: Hog and Eggs on March 28, 2015, 10:08:52 pm
You are kidding right? Wisky has shooters at all positions. They will face the best big man they have seen all year. Wisky is a team who actually won't be far undersized.

You either have to shoot the daylights out of the ball,or not get completely out-athleticism'd across the board.   Notre Dame was able to get good shots on ND by beating the bigger guards off the bounce, and forcing switches that let them get to the hoop.    Wisconsin isn't as athletic as ND.  That's going to be a big issue for the Badgers.
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Quote from: Hog and Eggs on March 28, 2015, 10:19:21 pm
And UK had to shoot like 70% in the second half to win today. So what's your point?

My point is 12-18 from 3 is a rare effort.  UK shot 70% shooting mostly from 10 feet in over smaller players. 

Hope UK destroys Frank The Flop. 
Quote from: MaconBacon on March 22, 2018, 10:30:04 amWe had a good run in the 90's and one NC and now the whole state still laments that we are a top seed program and have kids standing in line to come to good ole Arkansas.  We're just a flash in the pan boys. 

HSVhogfan2

Quote from: Atlhogfan1 on March 28, 2015, 10:18:33 pm
Why are you laughing?  No other Irish player took a shot and I can't remember one touching the ball the last 2:36.

I would have to look at a box, but Grant played almost a perfect game. I don't think he had a TO in the second half, he completely broke down KY defense and allowed August and the other guys so many easy layups. He did that while playing 40 minutes. Without him, they lose by 15.
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I've been saying all along that Wisconsin is the team to beat Kentucky, and I believe it will happen a week from today.

Atlhogfan1

Quote from: HSVhogfan2 on March 28, 2015, 10:21:37 pm
I would have to look at a box, but Grant played almost a perfect game. I don't think he had a TO in the second half, he completely broke down KY defense and allowed August and the other guys so many easy layups. He did that while playing 40 minutes. Without him, they lose by 15.

Maybe so.  But that doesn't excuse the final 3 possessions when he allowed himself to get pushed away from the basket, panicked and put up bad shots.  He played far from perfect with the game on the line. 
Quote from: MaconBacon on March 22, 2018, 10:30:04 amWe had a good run in the 90's and one NC and now the whole state still laments that we are a top seed program and have kids standing in line to come to good ole Arkansas.  We're just a flash in the pan boys. 

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Quote from: ErieHog on March 28, 2015, 10:21:18 pm
You either have to shoot the daylights out of the ball,or not get completely out-athleticism'd across the board.   Notre Dame was able to get good shots on ND by beating the bigger guards off the bounce, and forcing switches that let them get to the hoop.    Wisconsin isn't as athletic as ND.  That's going to be a big issue for the Badgers.
Yep...the main issue was both the Harrison's, Johnson but especially Towns getting absolutely abused on switches. Wisky doesn't run that same offense and doesn't nearly have the speed. This is basically the same Wisky team as last year while UK is a lot better. I think UK wins by double digits.

Hogfaniam

Quote from: Atlhogfan1 on March 28, 2015, 10:21:31 pm
My point is 12-18 from 3 is a rare effort.  UK shot 70% shooting mostly from 10 feet in over smaller players. 

Hope UK destroys Frank The Flop. 

15-20 75%

3-3pt.  Everything else was deep in the lane
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Quote from: thebignasty on March 28, 2015, 10:20:53 pm
Kaminsky will get his, but Cauley-Stein is about the best match up on him anyone is going to have. Dekker for Wisconsin, and Towns for Kentucky are the guys that look like mismatch problems for the opposing team.

Yeah, that is a good point. It will have to be WCS, he is the only one who is quick enough and big enough to do it. I think you're right on the mismatches, there doesn't seem to be an obvious answer for Dekker or Townes. My hope is that Bo Ryan has a better plan for defending Townes than Brey did. They basically let Townes have whatever he wanted. Not sure why they felt that giving Townes bunnies was a better idea than giving a poor 3 pt shooting team like UK those shots. I'd rather have UK beat me from the 3.

Atlhogfan1

Quote from: Hogfaniam on March 28, 2015, 10:25:51 pm
15-20 75%

3-3pt.  Everything else was deep in the lane

Yes.  UK's second half shooting was not like Wisconsin's.  One can reasonably be repeated. 
Quote from: MaconBacon on March 22, 2018, 10:30:04 amWe had a good run in the 90's and one NC and now the whole state still laments that we are a top seed program and have kids standing in line to come to good ole Arkansas.  We're just a flash in the pan boys.