Calapari wouldn't fail again in the NBA (Article)

[The_Bionic_Pig]

Link:  http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/john-calipari-fail-nba/story?id=29906055

[Killean]

Calipari's single biggest problem with the NBA is that the other teams get to pay players too.  He would lose his only real advantage.

[poloprince]

He'd fail unless he changes his antics, then and only then leaves a possibility for a miniscule amount of success. 

[The_Iceman]

Calipari's single biggest problem with the NBA is that the other teams get to pay players too.  He would lose his only real advantage.

[Biggus Piggus]

http://www.northjersey.com/sports/basketball/calipari-can-save-nets-1.1294851

[NVRyield]

His stock will never be higher.  If he isn't sqeeky clean, he knows it and will jump ship before it catches up to him.  Or he can wait until the NCAA gets involved and then make a move to the NBA.
The NCAA may let him know to hit the door before it gets bad.....after all he's been good for the SEC, NCAA tournament and ESPN/CBS and they may give him a wink when it's time.

Then again he may be clean or clean enough to continue on at Kentucky if/until the rules change, and use the NBA as leverage for a huge bump in pay from Kentucky's deep pockets.  Regardless, Cal will be working for someone with deep pockets next year.  You can take that to the bank...

[hellwonthaveme]

His stock will never be higher.  If he isn't sqeeky clean, he knows it and will jump ship before it catches up to him.  Or he can wait until the NCAA gets involved and then make a move to the NBA.
The NCAA may let him know to hit the door before it gets bad.....after all he's been good for the SEC, NCAA tournament and ESPN/CBS and they may give him a wink when it's time.

Then again he may be clean or clean enough to continue on at Kentucky if/until the rules change, and use the NBA as leverage for a huge bump in pay from Kentucky's deep pockets.  Regardless, Cal will be working for someone with deep pockets next year.  You can take that to the bank...

I think he stays at Kentucky.....got to much of a good thing going....

PRJ

[NVRyield]

I think he stays at Kentucky.....got to much of a good thing going....

PRJ

He certainly does, it would be one heck of a way to leave after a perfect season though.  We'll see... Gotta win the next one first

[The_Bionic_Pig]

He certainly does, it would be one heck of a way to leave after a perfect season though.  We'll see... Gotta win the next one first

It would border on AWESOMNESS if all those wins were to be vacated as soon as he jumps ship to the NBA 😈

[hawgmasta]

I mean he does have a huge ego; and a guy like that probably wants to prove himself again after failing on the biggest stage of basketball.

[latrops]

Calipari's single biggest problem with the NBA is that the other teams get to pay players too.  He would lose his only real advantage.

I disagree.  It's not just the money.  If Kentucky is paying players, so are other programs...yet most of the top wannabe one and done players are still picking Kentucky over everyone else.  He has built the right relationships and has created a reputation/brand that the top high school players want to be a part of.  These players tend have a positive view of Cal after they move on to the NBA as well.

That said, the formula for creating a great NBA team isn't usually coach-centric.  If Cleveland disappoints in the playoffs, maybe they dump Blatt for Cal, and in that situation Cal probably has success with Lebron/Irving (and maybe Love) to work with.  I don't know what he would offer in, say, Orlando that would truly alter things.  I imagine that Cal's relationships with players and agents would be a positive, but I can't imagine he has enough influence to do something like what Riley pulled off in Miami given that Cal hasn't accomplished much at the NBA level.  Maybe he is so well connected that he is more powerful than I give him credit for being, but it seems more likely that he is just getting a lot of attention now with the success of this year's team (following an improbable run last year).  He is hot right now, but does he really project to make a difference in the NBA?  IMO, probably not unless he walks into a situation with great players.

[NVRyield]

I assume you probably meant paying players.  That may or probably is the case.  You mentioned Riley, the difference is.....Riley had the respect from owners and coaches.  I think Cal has the respect of players and the marketing departments.  I think the pendulum swung to the players since then.  By that, I mean the players seem to be running things now. He has great relationships with some of the best players in the league now.  That wasn't the case before.  It will be interesting to see what happens

[NVRyield]

Regarding if he is paying players, not sure he has to.  They feel they will be payed a handsome amount in 1 or 2 years

[regi]

If he talks to his NBA players the way he talks to his UK players. He would fail again.

[NVRyield]

If he talks to his NBA players the way he talks to his UK players. He would fail again.

As a hog fan I hope that's his problem.  I woud like another shot at him though, and Qualls finishing it like before.  Especially in the SEC finals.  That would be good days :razorback:

[hellwonthaveme]

If he talks to his NBA players the way he talks to his UK players. He would fail again.

Which is exactly why he won't leave....

PRJ

[latrops]

I assume you probably meant paying players.  That may or probably is the case.  You mentioned Riley, the difference is.....Riley had the respect from owners and coaches.  I think Cal has the respect of players and the marketing departments.  I think the pendulum swung to the players since then.  By that, I mean the players seem to be running things now. He has great relationships with some of the best players in the league now.  That wasn't the case before.  It will be interesting to see what happens

Yes, I meant (and fixed it) PAYING players.  I agree he has good relationships with players and agents, but does he have enough influence to compel top players to come play for him?  If he lands an OKC or Cleveland type job, do his recruiting/sales/marketing skills really even much matter?  It would seem unlikely that he would leave UK for an Orlando or Sacramento type job, though those are the types of teams that might benefit most from his skills.

[NVRyield]

Yes, I meant (and fixed it) PAYING players.  I agree he has good relationships with players and agents, but does he have enough influence to compel top players to come play for him?  If he lands an OKC or Cleveland type job, do his recruiting/sales/marketing skills really even much matter?  It would seem unlikely that he would leave UK for an Orlando or Sacramento type job, though those are the types of teams that might benefit most from his skills.

I completely agree with what you said.  The player/agent/marketing relationships may not make him an NBA coach, but it may make him a wealthy coach regardless

[Swine-as-wine]

Calapari's most honed skill in the coaching profession, is knowing when to leave. A close
second in his repertoire, would be covering his ass before he leaves. Two of the 3 universities
he's coached at, subsequently were found guilty of NCAA violations, and those schools
were punished severely for those violations, with Calapari being found by the NCAA to
have no part in them. That leaves a person to come to one of only two conclusions...
coincidence, or thru some freak of nature, doodoo doesn't run downhill from the top
with this man as it would anyone else. Good recruiter? Probably one of the best there's
ever been in the college ranks, regardless of which school he was employed by.  Good
coach? Not bad I'd say, but far from a genius, that having a dozen McDonald's All-Americans
tends to make one look like. A cheater? Not according to the NCAA, but who the hell
are they to judge, after the some of the decisions that we've seen them pass down,
or in some cases pass over thru the years.

Long story short? As much as the media these days love to make all time comparisons
and lift players and coaches up to the loft heights of those that came before them,
they also love to see them come crashing back to the ground, as hard as possible.
Personally, I wouldn't pee on this guy if he was on fire

[Piggage]

If he talks to his NBA players the way he talks to his UK players. He would fail again.

True. Here's another thing we forget because it's been so long since the Evil Empire has lost a game: After every NBA loss, it would be "Player, meet bus."

[jackflash]

I don't know if any college coach would be able to have success in the NBA. Its a player run league. Not sure they take to coaching. In Cleveland James runs that team not the coach. In La its Bryant. The players knows they will fire the coach before them. If you have a star he does want he wants

[Cresthog]

I don't know if any college coach would be able to have success in the NBA. Its a player run league. Not sure they take to coaching. In Cleveland James runs that team not the coach. In La its Bryant. The players knows they will fire the coach before them. If you have a star he does want he wants

Ever heard of Larry Brown?

Calipari would dominate at the right job. He's learned his lesson. The dude can flat out coach.

Did you watch the game last night?

[The_Iceman]

The only job that would interest Calapari is the Cavs.

[jackflash]

Yes I have heard of Larry Brown. believe at SMU. Not about Calapari being able to coach. I think he is a fine one. He wasn't successful in his first try at the NBA. I don't he will be the second time

[Cresthog]

Yes I have heard of Larry Brown. believe at SMU. Not about Calapari being able to coach. I think he is a fine one. He wasn't successful in his first try at the NBA. I don't he will be the second time

He wasn't as big of a failure as everyone thinks.

Had they landed Kobe, things could have been different. Jason Williams was a punk anyway.

He made the playoffs after all..

[Hawg Red]

I don't know if any college coach would be able to have success in the NBA. Its a player run league. Not sure they take to coaching. In Cleveland James runs that team not the coach. In La its Bryant. The players knows they will fire the coach before them. If you have a star he does want he wants

Brad Stevens has what looks like a D-League roster (hyperbole, I know) in the 8th spot in the Eastern Conference right now.

[ErieHog]

If he talks to his NBA players the way he talks to his UK players. He would fail again.

It depends.  I could see him going to a team that drafts one of the cornerstones of this year's team, and building a roster of UK's NBA alumni as the core identity;  those guys love Calipari to death, and would not only offer a who's who of young talent in the NBA, but would allow him to shape his next NBA tenure.

[Cresthog]

The only job that would interest Calapari is the Cavs.

As Erie said, I think there are other jobs to tempt him.

He's still pretty young and he can always come out of college. He has a huge ego and hates having the failure tag on him for the NBA.

Lakers, signing Love, landing a top draft pick (one of his guys) might be a destination for him..

[Cresthog]

It depends.  I could see him going to a team that drafts one of the cornerstones of this year's team, and building a roster of UK's NBA alumni as the core identity;  those guys love Calipari to death, and would not only offer a who's who of young talent in the NBA, but would allow him to shape his next NBA tenure.

I think he only goes to a big market place IMO.

Knicks if they drafted  one of his guys?

[ErieHog]

I think he only goes to a big market place IMO.

Knicks if they drafted  one of his guys?

Dolan had to pay Phil Jackson half a down payment on Manhattan- 12 million a year for 5 years, roughly.

He'd have to eat that, and pay Cal--  meaning it'd be $100 million to have Calipari in the seat, coaching next year.  Even James Dolan isn't that crazy.

[Cresthog]

Dolan had to pay Phil Jackson half a down payment on Manhattan- 12 million a year for 5 years, roughly.

He'd have to eat that, and pay Cal--  meaning it'd be $100 million to have Calipari in the seat, coaching next year.  Even James Dolan isn't that crazy.

I guess that's true. Can't see Phil and JC working together.

What about LA? OKC?

Crazier things have happened...

[ErieHog]

I guess that's true. Can't see Phil and JC working together.

What about LA? OKC?

Crazier things have happened...

The Lakers?  That team is a wasteland,  and is going to be stuck swinging for the fences in free agency this year.   Their best upside hope right now is probably getting Kevin Love and hoping his game returns to form,   and maybe Rajon Rondo.       Is that a playoff team in the West, with a lottery pick and the return of Julius Randle?  Probably not.

As for OKC, Scott Brooks has pictures of ownership shagging goats.    There is zero other explanation as to how that dude still has a job.

[Jackrabbit Hog]

I don't know if any college coach would be able to have success in the NBA. Its a player run league. Not sure they take to coaching. In Cleveland James runs that team not the coach. In La its Bryant. The players knows they will fire the coach before them. If you have a star he does want he wants

The NBA's best teams are often run by superstar players (LeBron, Kobe, etc.), but the best organizations are still run by great front offices and coaches that happen to be on the same page.  See San Antonio as a prime example.  My personal opinion is that Calipari could have success at a team with a superstar, like the Cavs, because he's already shown he is the ultimate "player's coach."  Put him on a team with no superstars though, or on a team where the GM has the most control, and he would fail again.  The guy needs superstars to succeed, and for whatever reason - maybe he sold his soul to the Devil at the crossroads - superstars flock to the guy.

[PonderinHog]

[ErieHog]

His best hope might be the Sacramento Kings, when they invariably fire George Karl for being unable to deal with Boogie.  I figure that will happen after next season.

[HiggiePiggy]

If he isn't given better talent than the other teams he faces he would not succeed in the nba. 

[huck]

Calapari's most honed skill in the coaching profession, is knowing when to leave. A close
second in his repertoire, would be covering his ass before he leaves. Two of the 3 universities
he's coached at, subsequently were found guilty of NCAA violations, and those schools
were punished severely for those violations, with Calapari being found by the NCAA to
have no part in them. That leaves a person to come to one of only two conclusions...
coincidence, or thru some freak of nature, doodoo doesn't run downhill from the top
with this man as it would anyone else. Good recruiter? Probably one of the best there's
ever been in the college ranks, regardless of which school he was employed by.  Good
coach? Not bad I'd say, but far from a genius, that having a dozen McDonald's All-Americans
tends to make one look like. A cheater? Not according to the NCAA, but who the hell
are they to judge, after the some of the decisions that we've seen them pass down,
or in some cases pass over thru the years.

Long story short? As much as the media these days love to make all time comparisons
and lift players and coaches up to the loft heights of those that came before them,
they also love to see them come crashing back to the ground, as hard as possible.
Personally, I wouldn't pee on this guy if he was on fire

There are thousands of reasons for most everything complex.  The smart ones hardly ever talk about things like that and the dumber you are.... the simpler it is to them.  You got it down to two.... whew

[NS02]

His stock will never be higher.  If he isn't sqeeky clean, he knows it and will jump ship before it catches up to him.  Or he can wait until the NCAA gets involved and then make a move to the NBA.
The NCAA may let him know to hit the door before it gets bad.....after all he's been good for the SEC, NCAA tournament and ESPN/CBS and they may give him a wink when it's time.

Then again he may be clean or clean enough to continue on at Kentucky if/until the rules change, and use the NBA as leverage for a huge bump in pay from Kentucky's deep pockets.  Regardless, Cal will be working for someone with deep pockets next year.  You can take that to the bank...

Good assessment!