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Started by ballz2thewall, December 11, 2014, 09:59:19 pm

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ballz2thewall

mhuff mentioned this in passing on another thread.

why isn't he getting any time on the court?  is there something other than basketball at issue?
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Hogimus Prime

I don't know I think he's played mop up duty in 2 or 3 games.  If he's not ready then he should've been redshirted.  No sense in waisting a season.

 

ballz2thewall

Quote from: Hogimus Prime on December 11, 2014, 10:04:12 pm
I don't know I think he's played mop up duty in 2 or 3 games.  If he's not ready then he should've been redshirted.  No sense in waisting a season.

seems like he's the power type that could contribute.  if we're into that sortof thing, that is...
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Boarmonger

We need a scoring threat down low.  Don't know if Thompson can be that guy or not.  I lean towards Kingsly.  MA sees Trey in practice every day so it makes me wonder a bit.

Atlhogfan1

If he won't play Kingsley, why would he play Thompson?  He is much more of a project and should have redshirted.  The answer isn't here considering the way Mike wants to play.   

Now knowing Mike, Thompson may get 15 minutes some game and then we don't see him again. 
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Quote from: Atlhogfan1 on December 11, 2014, 10:36:57 pm
If he won't play Kingsley, why would he play Thompson?  He is much more of a project and should have redshirted.  The answer isn't here considering the way Mike wants to play.   

Now knowing Mike, Thompson may get 15 minutes some game and then we don't see him again.
I agree....no way Thompson sees the court during any game in doubt. If Kingsley is seeing as limited time then no way Thompson sees any. I am not sure what is happening in practice. He may just be lost. However he did work hard to get down to a reasonable weight so he has commitment. I say reward him.

ballz2thewall

yeah. i'm wondering too about the redshirt.  also, i'm wondering about why he was recruited.  not to slap his talents; but if moses isn't getting time, and he's as close as we got to a low post, then why sign thompson?

perhaps i should preface all of my posts with the following:

[the hogs seem no farther along at this point in the season compared to the same point in time during the last 10 or so seasons]

or, perhaps not.
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WADHOG

Glad I'm not the only one.  I think this thread rings true to many hog fans.  I see so many great flashes with Kingsley, and then I start wondering if I even know what I'm looking at.  I support Mike 100%, but I did expect more at this point.  Thompson looks like he could be a banger, and we sure need one.

lefty08

Yep. You hit it on the head. Mike can't coach because he won't pay Thompson.....
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ballz2thewall

the lack of inside presence is glaring to most here. moses doesn't get minutes that baffles people, and thompson was recruited with a body type that is custom made for inside play.

he's a freshman; i get that.

usually the freshmen get to play according to need, and of course talent.  we recruited the guy so i'm assuming the coach knows what he's doing in this regard.

and we have no inside game.  so,

what are his plans with thompson?

is he a project?  well; when are we going to develope him?  i think he's played in 3 games.

that's why i was asking if his bench time was something other than basketball.
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The_Iceman

He is a developing freshman playing behind Bobby Portis and Moses Kingsley. I'm not surprised at all he isn't playing.

His full potential won't really show until probably his Junior season.

lefty08

Quote from: ballz2thewall on December 12, 2014, 07:46:36 am
the lack of inside presence is glaring to most here. moses doesn't get minutes that baffles people, and thompson was recruited with a body type that is custom made for inside play.

he's a freshman; i get that.

usually the freshmen get to play according to need, and of course talent.  we recruited the guy so i'm assuming the coach knows what he's doing in this regard.

and we have no inside game.  so,

what are his plans with thompson?

is he a project?  well; when are we going to develope him?  i think he's played in 3 games.

that's why i was asking if his bench time was something other than basketball.

You don't get he's a freshman, if you did you wouldn't wonder why he's not seeing much court time
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hogsanity

Quote from: lefty08 on December 12, 2014, 07:03:48 am
Yep. You hit it on the head. Mike can't coach because he won't pay Thompson.....

not one, not one person said Mike can't coach. They are simply wondering why is this player not playing, why was he used in mop up duty instead of red shirtting ( which rarely happens in basketball anymore ), and why did Ma recruit a player who in no way fits the style Mike likes to play.
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ballz2thewall

Quote from: hogsanity on December 12, 2014, 08:40:31 am
not one, not one person said Mike can't coach. They are simply wondering why is this player not playing, why was he used in mop up duty instead of red shirtting ( which rarely happens in basketball anymore ), and why did Ma recruit a player who in no way fits the style Mike likes to play.

right.

and the kid was a low post specialist in high school.  among other things what do the hogs seem to need; low post.

and the answer could be that he's not producing or showing promise. 

anyway, we'll see, i guess.
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RazorPiggie

He won't play Kingsley, why would he play Thompson?

hogsanity

Quote from: ballz2thewall on December 12, 2014, 09:22:39 am
right.

and the kid was a low post specialist in high school.  among other things what do the hogs seem to need; low post.

and the answer could be that he's not producing or showing promise. 

anyway, we'll see, i guess.

He may not be producing in practice. He may be having trouble adapting to things in this style that MA is asking him to do that he has never really had to do before. No idea.

I will say this about needing a low post player, Mike system does not really utilize that. There is no real low post position in either Mike offense or defense.
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ballz2thewall

Quote from: hogsanity on December 12, 2014, 09:43:22 am
He may not be producing in practice. He may be having trouble adapting to things in this style that MA is asking him to do that he has never really had to do before. No idea.

I will say this about needing a low post player, Mike system does not really utilize that. There is no real low post position in either Mike offense or defense.

yeah, and frankly i don't see how he's going to be able and compete without post play.  without a slew of hotshot shooters and tremendous slashers, it seems futile. but, he's the coach. 
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WADHOG

Quote from: lefty08 on December 12, 2014, 08:35:36 am
You don't get he's a freshman, if you did you wouldn't wonder why he's not seeing much court time
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Letsroll1200

Quote from: RazorPiggie on December 12, 2014, 09:31:17 am
He won't play Kingsley, why would he play Thompson?

Maybe Thompson should transfer to Kansas!!!!

mhuff

Quote from: ballz2thewall on December 12, 2014, 09:22:39 am
right.

and the kid was a low post specialist in high school.  among other things what do the hogs seem to need; low post.

and the answer could be that he's not producing or showing promise. 

anyway, we'll see, i guess.

He won't play Kingsley and Portis together because it would prove that he was wrong last year by not playing them together. He won't play Thompson this year because there would be no excuse not to play the aforementioned if Thompson had experience. Now he can say that he can't play them together because Portis or Kingsley might foul out and Thompson has no experience. If we are going to get beat his way why not wake up and smell the coffee. The frustration is setting in with MA wasting the talent he has. I am not enamored with MA's line ups anyway. The starting five is going to put us in the also ran category again.

Kevin

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mhuff

Quote from: Kevin on December 12, 2014, 04:01:13 pm
Cannot play two bigs together, because of the switching they do on defense, not because of ego.

As is widely discussed , Kingsley is inside..... Portis is outside...... The last couple of games the announcers have been scratching their heads as to why they are not playing together. I have been scratching my head for two seasons. MA's line ups are lacking. Is his contract up next year? I want him to stay if he can produce.......

ballz2thewall

Quote from: mhuff on December 12, 2014, 04:25:32 pm
As is widely discussed , Kingsley is inside..... Portis is outside...... The last couple of games the announcers have been scratching their heads as to why they are not playing together. I have been scratching my head for two seasons. MA's line ups are lacking. Is his contract up next year? I want him to stay if he can produce.......

he's got to play them in tandem and substitute as needed.  and i can't figure the thompson thing out, really.  what i mean is this. i was considering the fact that he doesn't seem to enjoy kingsley on the court that much for whatever reason.  i also figured that perhaps mike thought he needed a true-er post player before he started having more of an inside presence.  thus, thompson [otherwise why sign him??].

but, it's the same ole same ole. thompson sits and, yada yada yada.
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mhuff

Quote from: ballz2thewall on December 12, 2014, 04:44:05 pm
he's got to play them in tandem and substitute as needed.  and i can't figure the thompson thing out, really.  what i mean is this. i was considering the fact that he doesn't seem to enjoy kingsley on the court that much for whatever reason.  i also figured that perhaps mike thought he needed a true-er post player before he started having more of an inside presence.  thus, thompson [otherwise why sign him??].

but, it's the same ole same ole. thompson sits and, yada yada yada.

Thompson should have been played a goodly amount of minutes from the get. Unless we recruit someone for next year, who's gonna be the bigs next year. I really hope we get Kapita.

Danny J

Quote from: Kevin on December 12, 2014, 04:01:13 pm
Cannot play two bigs together, because of the switching they do on defense, not because of ego.
And THAT ^^^^ is the bigger problem IMO. Have to stop switching unless we are playing teams who have players that can take advantage of us not switching and rotating. Clemson was not one of those teams with those caliber players.

lefty08

Quote from: hogsanity on December 12, 2014, 08:40:31 am
not one, not one person said Mike can't coach. They are simply wondering why is this player not playing, why was he used in mop up duty instead of red shirtting ( which rarely happens in basketball anymore ), and why did Ma recruit a player who in no way fits the style Mike likes to play.

Might wanna read some of jump ball, plenty of people say he can't coach
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ballz2thewall

Quote from: lefty08 on December 12, 2014, 06:07:43 pm
Might wanna read some of jump ball, plenty of people say he can't coach

lefty, i don't think anyone has said that on this particular thread.

but it they do, i'm sure they'll state their case.
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Marshfieldhog

Quote from: Kevin on December 12, 2014, 04:01:13 pm
Cannot play two bigs together, because of the switching they do on defense, not because of ego.

Dwight Stewart and Corliss say hello

ballz2thewall

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rusvegashog

I was wondering about Thompson. TBH I've seen so little action this year that I had forgot about him. It's a long season who knows how it will unfold. If he starts to get more time that means he is developing and coming along. Lets hope that this is the case.

Wild Bill Hog

Quote from: lefty08 on December 12, 2014, 07:03:48 am
Yep. You hit it on the head. Mike can't coach because he won't pay Thompson.....

The money would be better spent on some other player.     ;)

Atlhogfan1

Quote from: Marshfieldhog on December 12, 2014, 10:29:27 pm
Dwight Stewart and Corliss say hello

Good job.  Bring an example from 20 years ago and use a 6-5 F to compare to 6-11 F or 6-11 C. 
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bulldog04

Quote from: Marshfieldhog on December 12, 2014, 10:29:27 pm
Dwight Stewart and Corliss say hello
They didn't play for MA.  Bad example

Beaverfever

Redshirting is stupid in basketball IMO. 

TomBigBeeHog

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Nosboar Accubond

Thompson needs a lot of work

Athog

Quote from: Kevin on December 12, 2014, 04:01:13 pm
Cannot play two bigs together, because of the switching they do on defense, not because of ego.

That is total BS!!