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razorpimp

But USC does offer something that Miami can't....

the ability to play Florida, Georgia, and fat Fullmer every year.

hogfan064

Quote from: HogFaninGA on November 01, 2006, 09:31:36 am
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Quote from: longtimeHogfan on November 01, 2006, 09:14:29 am
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Miami offers nothing that South Carolina doesn't already have
At the risk of taking this out of context, how about:
1) recruiting base
2) Ease of recruiting.  "Hi, I'm Steve Spurrier....sign here__________.
3) Sandy beaches (recruits)
4) Bikini clad honeys (recruits)
5) Year around golf (Steve)
6) In the hunt for the NC every year.
There's probably more....


1) Spurrier already is recruiting Florida hard.  He'll get a commitment from possibly the #1 QB in Florida and just got one from a WR that had offers from Ohio State and other powers

2) He can say Hi I'm Steve Spurrier sign here anywhere he goes

3) South Carolina has tons of sandy beaches, most are nicer than Florida

4) South Carolina has tons of bikini clad honeys.  Miami has bikini clad skanks who can't speak English

5) South Carolina has tons of Golf.  Ever heard of Hilton Head, Myrtle Beach, Edisto, or Charleston?  Columbia is 60 miles from Augusta

6) I mentioned tradition. 

Some things working for South Carolina

1) Better facilities
2) More Money
3) Larger alumni base
4) Much better fans


Brad Scott turned down the Miami job in 95 to stay at South Carolina.  If offered Spurrier will do the same.   

Miami only gets up and comers as coaches.  Just look at its past.

Wow you make it sound so nice.  Maybe USC should hire you as their new PR man. :)   I agree the state of SC is mostly a pretty state.  They have it all.  Great beaches, mountains, and Charleston is one of my favorites cities (was married there).  The biggest thing against USC football is a lack of a winning history/tradition.  Maybe Steve can change that, maybe he can't.  The future will be the ultimate judge.  I just can't see him staying there 3-4 more yrs and getting the same results.

Could Spurrier win more at Miami than USC?  Yep, he could.  Will he leave USC for Miami?  Nope.  USC is a better job for a man in his 60s that has already proven he can win 10+ games a year at a Florida school.  Miami is a job for a young guy wanting to make his mark and maybe push towards the NFL.  As a guy who listens to Spurrier interviews everyday I can tell you he is set on building a winner here.  His wife is very happy with Columbia and they live in a very nice area. 

Spurrier fits in better with the South Carolina culture than the Miami culture.

 

hogfan064

Quote from: razorpimp on November 01, 2006, 09:32:40 am
But USC does offer something that Miami can't....

the ability to play Florida, Georgia, and fat Fullmer every year.

And get back at his old boss in Gainseville

Hawgin84

Quote from: HogFaninGA on November 01, 2006, 09:07:51 am
Quote from: hogfan064 on November 01, 2006, 09:06:58 am
Spurrier isn't going to Miami.  His family is happy here in South Carolina.  He has a son attending USC and his wife is tired of moving.  Miami offers nothing that South Carolina doesn't already have except a winning tradition.  Spurrier is set on building USC into a winner

Once Steve realizes that it is a loss cause, he might reconsider.

Remember, before one talks about lost causes, he led Duke to the 1989 ACC championship.

HogFaninGA

Quote from: Hawgin84 on November 01, 2006, 09:44:39 am
Quote from: HogFaninGA on November 01, 2006, 09:07:51 am
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Spurrier isn't going to Miami.  His family is happy here in South Carolina.  He has a son attending USC and his wife is tired of moving.  Miami offers nothing that South Carolina doesn't already have except a winning tradition.  Spurrier is set on building USC into a winner

Once Steve realizes that it is a loss cause, he might reconsider.

Remember, before one talks about lost causes, he led Duke to the 1989 ACC championship.

The ACC was very very weak back then.

razorpimp

Quote from: Hawgin84 on November 01, 2006, 09:44:39 am
Quote from: HogFaninGA on November 01, 2006, 09:07:51 am
Quote from: hogfan064 on November 01, 2006, 09:06:58 am
Spurrier isn't going to Miami.  His family is happy here in South Carolina.  He has a son attending USC and his wife is tired of moving.  Miami offers nothing that South Carolina doesn't already have except a winning tradition.  Spurrier is set on building USC into a winner

Once Steve realizes that it is a loss cause, he might reconsider.

Remember, before one talks about lost causes, he led Duke to the 1989 ACC championship.

Was that the 1989 ACC Trivial Pursuit championship?  Did they play Vandy in the National title game?

hogfan064

Quote from: HogFaninGA on November 01, 2006, 09:49:03 am
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Quote from: hogfan064 on November 01, 2006, 09:06:58 am
Spurrier isn't going to Miami.  His family is happy here in South Carolina.  He has a son attending USC and his wife is tired of moving.  Miami offers nothing that South Carolina doesn't already have except a winning tradition.  Spurrier is set on building USC into a winner

Once Steve realizes that it is a loss cause, he might reconsider.

Remember, before one talks about lost causes, he led Duke to the 1989 ACC championship.

The ACC was very very weak back then.

Clemson was a top 10 program at that time.  Georgia Tech was a year away from a National Championship.  NC State under Dick Sheridan was a top 25 caliber program.  Virginia under George Welsh was usually a bowl team as well and at that time had a lethal combination of Moore-Moore(Shawn Moore and Herman Moore)


jkcrunch

Why do people insist there is more money at Miami than any SEC school?   Does thier budget even rival ours?   Outside of the two Miss schools and Vandy the SEC has no problem paying big time coaches.  If Richt has thoughts of Miami it has more to do with emotional ties than money.  Miami would be better served looking at NFL reject as Ga Tech and USC did or even someone like June Jones who I do not think would ever leave Hawaii.

GuvHog

Richt or Spurrier to Miami? It's not happening. Miami is BD's job to accept or turn down. He'll
accept the job in my opinion.
Bleeding Razorback Red Since Birth!!!

hogfan064

Quote from: jkcrunch on November 01, 2006, 09:59:34 am
Why do people insist there is more money at Miami than any SEC school?   Does thier budget even rival ours?   Outside of the two Miss schools and Vandy the SEC has no problem paying big time coaches.  If Richt has thoughts of Miami it has more to do with emotional ties than money.  Miami would be better served looking at NFL reject as Ga Tech and USC did or even someone like June Jones who I do not think would ever leave Hawaii.

I wonder the same thing. Miami is not going to lure a coach away from the SEC.  They failed to do so in 95 when they wanted Brad Scott.  Miami does not come close to the $$ that the SEC schools have

jkcrunch

Spurrier also avid golfer and you cant beat the golf around Columbia

HogFaninGA

Quote from: hogfan064 on November 01, 2006, 09:55:40 am
Quote from: HogFaninGA on November 01, 2006, 09:49:03 am
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Spurrier isn't going to Miami.  His family is happy here in South Carolina.  He has a son attending USC and his wife is tired of moving.  Miami offers nothing that South Carolina doesn't already have except a winning tradition.  Spurrier is set on building USC into a winner

Once Steve realizes that it is a loss cause, he might reconsider.

Remember, before one talks about lost causes, he led Duke to the 1989 ACC championship.

The ACC was very very weak back then.

Clemson was a top 10 program at that time.  Georgia Tech was a year away from a National Championship.  NC State under Dick Sheridan was a top 25 caliber program.  Virginia under George Welsh was usually a bowl team as well and at that time had a lethal combination of Moore-Moore(Shawn Moore and Herman Moore)



Clemson was pretty good at that time, but not a Top 10 program.  They finished 12th(AP) in the polls.  UVA finished 15th(AP) that year.  GA Tech, NC State, and Duke did not finish ranked.

BPPig

Quote from: jkcrunch on November 01, 2006, 10:01:23 am
Spurrier also avid golfer and you cant beat the golf around Columbia
That is a very valid point. I imagine Steve is a happy camper with Hilton Head etc to have fun with. For golfers it doesn't get much better than he has it now.

 

lawdog

When Spurrier arrived in Columbia, he basically kicked most of the good players off the team becuase they were thugs.  That included the leading rusher, Demetris Summers.  He simply does not tolerate that sort of behavior...period.

Can you imagine what he would do with those super-thugs at Miami?  He wouldn't be able to field a team, b/c he wouldn't have 11 players left on the roster.

He does not want to deal with that nonsense down there in Miami.

Spurrier to Miami will not happen.
South Carolina: The Palmetto State
Home of the Fighting Gamecocks!

Hawgin84

Quote from: HogFaninGA on November 01, 2006, 10:05:21 am
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Spurrier isn't going to Miami.  His family is happy here in South Carolina.  He has a son attending USC and his wife is tired of moving.  Miami offers nothing that South Carolina doesn't already have except a winning tradition.  Spurrier is set on building USC into a winner

Once Steve realizes that it is a loss cause, he might reconsider.

Remember, before one talks about lost causes, he led Duke to the 1989 ACC championship.

The ACC was very very weak back then.

Clemson was a top 10 program at that time.  Georgia Tech was a year away from a National Championship.  NC State under Dick Sheridan was a top 25 caliber program.  Virginia under George Welsh was usually a bowl team as well and at that time had a lethal combination of Moore-Moore(Shawn Moore and Herman Moore)



Clemson was pretty good at that time, but not a Top 10 program.  They finished 12th(AP) in the polls.  UVA finished 15th(AP) that year.  GA Tech, NC State, and Duke did not finish ranked.

Regardless of the strength of the ACC, Duke was still Duke. Also, regarding the ACC, Clemson had won a NC in football in 1981 under Ford.

HogFaninGA

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Quote from: hogfan064 on November 01, 2006, 09:06:58 am
Spurrier isn't going to Miami.  His family is happy here in South Carolina.  He has a son attending USC and his wife is tired of moving.  Miami offers nothing that South Carolina doesn't already have except a winning tradition.  Spurrier is set on building USC into a winner

Once Steve realizes that it is a loss cause, he might reconsider.

Remember, before one talks about lost causes, he led Duke to the 1989 ACC championship.

The ACC was very very weak back then.

Clemson was a top 10 program at that time.  Georgia Tech was a year away from a National Championship.  NC State under Dick Sheridan was a top 25 caliber program.  Virginia under George Welsh was usually a bowl team as well and at that time had a lethal combination of Moore-Moore(Shawn Moore and Herman Moore)



Clemson was pretty good at that time, but not a Top 10 program.  They finished 12th(AP) in the polls.  UVA finished 15th(AP) that year.  GA Tech, NC State, and Duke did not finish ranked.

Regardless of the strength of the ACC, Duke was still Duke. Also, regarding the ACC, Clemson had won a NC in football in 1981 under Ford.

That makes no sense. 1981 is not 1989.  A lot of time in between there. Duke was co-champ in 1989, not outright champs.  It doesn't matter.  I agree it was good for Duke, but lets don't make the 1989 ACC more than it was.  It was an average conference at best.  Final rankings do not lie.

Hawgin84

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Spurrier isn't going to Miami.  His family is happy here in South Carolina.  He has a son attending USC and his wife is tired of moving.  Miami offers nothing that South Carolina doesn't already have except a winning tradition.  Spurrier is set on building USC into a winner

Once Steve realizes that it is a loss cause, he might reconsider.

Remember, before one talks about lost causes, he led Duke to the 1989 ACC championship.

The ACC was very very weak back then.

Clemson was a top 10 program at that time.  Georgia Tech was a year away from a National Championship.  NC State under Dick Sheridan was a top 25 caliber program.  Virginia under George Welsh was usually a bowl team as well and at that time had a lethal combination of Moore-Moore(Shawn Moore and Herman Moore)



Clemson was pretty good at that time, but not a Top 10 program.  They finished 12th(AP) in the polls.  UVA finished 15th(AP) that year.  GA Tech, NC State, and Duke did not finish ranked.

Regardless of the strength of the ACC, Duke was still Duke. Also, regarding the ACC, Clemson had won a NC in football in 1981 under Ford.

That makes no sense. 1981 is not 1989.  A lot of time in between there. Duke was co-champ in 1989, not outright champs.  It doesn't matter.  I agree it was good for Duke, but lets don't make the 1989 ACC more than it was.  It was an average conference at best.  Final rankings do not lie.

Only to you it don't. Again, Duke was still Duke. You're right about co-champs. For what it's worth, they've been to eight bowl games. One was while Spurrier was there.

http://www.nationalchamps.net/NCAA/database/duke_database.htm



oldfart

isnt he also a member (or playing priviledges) at augusta national?  thats quite a way from miami... 

Quote from: jkcrunch on November 01, 2006, 10:01:23 am
Spurrier also avid golfer and you cant beat the golf around Columbia

oldfart

at one time Duke was a national power in football.  yes, that was years ago and at the time spurrier was coach there they were horrible. for him to come in and win as he did was a monumental job of coaching, no matter what conference they may have been in.....

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Spurrier isn't going to Miami.  His family is happy here in South Carolina.  He has a son attending USC and his wife is tired of moving.  Miami offers nothing that South Carolina doesn't already have except a winning tradition.  Spurrier is set on building USC into a winner

Once Steve realizes that it is a loss cause, he might reconsider.

Remember, before one talks about lost causes, he led Duke to the 1989 ACC championship.

The ACC was very very weak back then.

Clemson was a top 10 program at that time.  Georgia Tech was a year away from a National Championship.  NC State under Dick Sheridan was a top 25 caliber program.  Virginia under George Welsh was usually a bowl team as well and at that time had a lethal combination of Moore-Moore(Shawn Moore and Herman Moore)



Clemson was pretty good at that time, but not a Top 10 program.  They finished 12th(AP) in the polls.  UVA finished 15th(AP) that year.  GA Tech, NC State, and Duke did not finish ranked.

Regardless of the strength of the ACC, Duke was still Duke. Also, regarding the ACC, Clemson had won a NC in football in 1981 under Ford.

That makes no sense. 1981 is not 1989.  A lot of time in between there. Duke was co-champ in 1989, not outright champs.  It doesn't matter.  I agree it was good for Duke, but lets don't make the 1989 ACC more than it was.  It was an average conference at best.  Final rankings do not lie.

Only to you it don't. Again, Duke was still Duke. You're right about co-champs. For what it's worth, they've been to eight bowl games. One was while Spurrier was there.

http://www.nationalchamps.net/NCAA/database/duke_database.htm




sportscrazy

Are you kidding me.  Steve Spurrier being rumored for a job?  His name is always floating around b/c of his past success and extraordinary coaching ability.  I will believe it when I see it.

hogfan064

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Spurrier isn't going to Miami.  His family is happy here in South Carolina.  He has a son attending USC and his wife is tired of moving.  Miami offers nothing that South Carolina doesn't already have except a winning tradition.  Spurrier is set on building USC into a winner

Once Steve realizes that it is a loss cause, he might reconsider.

Remember, before one talks about lost causes, he led Duke to the 1989 ACC championship.

The ACC was very very weak back then.

Clemson was a top 10 program at that time.  Georgia Tech was a year away from a National Championship.  NC State under Dick Sheridan was a top 25 caliber program.  Virginia under George Welsh was usually a bowl team as well and at that time had a lethal combination of Moore-Moore(Shawn Moore and Herman Moore)



Clemson was pretty good at that time, but not a Top 10 program.  They finished 12th(AP) in the polls.  UVA finished 15th(AP) that year.  GA Tech, NC State, and Duke did not finish ranked.

From 87-89 Clemson went 30-6.  That includes bowl wins over Oklahoma and Penn State.  In 89 they finished 12th in the nation, if they beat Duke they finish much higher.  Clemson was a top 10 program at that time.  I

HogFaninGA

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Spurrier isn't going to Miami.  His family is happy here in South Carolina.  He has a son attending USC and his wife is tired of moving.  Miami offers nothing that South Carolina doesn't already have except a winning tradition.  Spurrier is set on building USC into a winner

Once Steve realizes that it is a loss cause, he might reconsider.

Remember, before one talks about lost causes, he led Duke to the 1989 ACC championship.

The ACC was very very weak back then.

Clemson was a top 10 program at that time.  Georgia Tech was a year away from a National Championship.  NC State under Dick Sheridan was a top 25 caliber program.  Virginia under George Welsh was usually a bowl team as well and at that time had a lethal combination of Moore-Moore(Shawn Moore and Herman Moore)



Clemson was pretty good at that time, but not a Top 10 program.  They finished 12th(AP) in the polls.  UVA finished 15th(AP) that year.  GA Tech, NC State, and Duke did not finish ranked.

From 87-89 Clemson went 30-6.  That includes bowl wins over Oklahoma and Penn State.  In 89 they finished 12th in the nation, if they beat Duke they finish much higher.  Clemson was a top 10 program at that time.  I

It doesn't matter.  I pointed out some facts and you did as well.  I couldn't careless about Duke or Stevie boy.  My main point was that the ACC wasn't some great conference in 1989.  If you think it was, then you are entitled to your opinion like I am.  We can agree to disagree on that. 

lawdog

Interesting article about an interview with Spurrier's older brother:

http://free-times.com/News/thesideline.html

I had the opportunity to speak with Steve Spurrier's older brother Graham. He drives to every USC game, home and away, from the family's hometown of Johnson City, Tenn. I was impressed by his overall enthusiasm and palpable optimism about the future of the program. We were talking about the likely outcome of the coming game, and he shrugged off the idea of it being overly important. "He's still building," Spurrier said of his younger brother. "He doesn't have everything he wants yet or everything he's going to get.

"Two years. Two years from now, that's when you'll start to see him competing for championships. USC fans better learn to get used to winning."

Spurrier and I talked about their relationship, and I asked him how long he really thought Spurrier would coach in Columbia.

"He's retiring here; he'll never coach anywhere else," Spurrier said matter-of-factly. "He loves it down here, the school, the people. He's not going anywhere. He loves the fans and wants to win here. No matter what happens tonight, the future is exciting to me. I can't wait to watch him do it."
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Home of the Fighting Gamecocks!

mword

It would be
Quote from: dubyacee on October 31, 2006, 04:49:52 pm
Miami would own the ACC after that.  Wonder if we could work out a 3 way trade.  Butch Davis to Arkansas (I know, its a stretch since he doesn't coach there, but I'm sure you can see the connection), Nutt to South Carolina, and Spurrier to Miami.  That way, everyone is happy. 

It would be nice, but Nutt is not going anywhere.

 

Hoot72

     Don't be surprised if Barry Alvarez (Wisconsin) doesn't end up at Miami