Miles out - all but official

[Dr. Starcs]

So leach would average 10 wins a season at Lsu. 
Same as les then right?

[COCHISE]

he de-committed last night

Thanks. Just saw that. My basic premise remains though. LSU has and always will be able to recruit the talent to compete for NC's on a regular basis.

[pigture perfect]

If he isn't gone by tomorrow, he will finish the regular season. They need to game plan aTm. If they were going to fire him, it should have been Sunday morning.

[NoNC4Tubs]

Leach won 84 games at Texas Tech over 10 seasons (an average of 8.4 wins per season).

With the talent he would have at LSU, he could possibly average 10 wins per season.

Isn't that what Les is doing now...? 

[Chief_Osceola]

Thanks. Just saw that. My basic premise remains though. LSU has and always will be able to recruit the talent to compete for NC's on a regular basis.

He's able to do that at FSU too. The Noles haven't exactly had problems pulling in top-3 classes.

[riccoar]

He's able to do that at FSU too. The Noles haven't exactly had problems pulling in top-3 classes.

But like LSU, they've had problems transferring that talent into NC's.  That's one of the chief complaints on Miles at LSU is they feel they have the talent to be better than a 2-3 loss team every year.  What coach wants that kinda of pressure?

[COCHISE]

He's able to do that at FSU too. The Noles haven't exactly had problems pulling in top-3 classes.

I agree with that. I just disagree with your assertion that Jimbo wouldn't leave Florida State because he has more talent to win a NC over the next 2-3 years than what he would have at LSU. How many coaches would get to inherit a Heisman front runner? I would agree though that staying at Florida State would likely give him a better shot at winning another NC but it has more to do with playing in a weaker conference, making it easier to get into the playoff. One thing Fisher will consider also is the fact that he will always be playing second fiddle to Florida in terms of the state's flagship program, an issue he won't have at LSU.

[HotlantaHog]

If he isn't gone by tomorrow, he will finish the regular season. They need to game plan aTm. If they were going to fire him, it should have been Sunday morning.

This is absolutely correct. Best time to fire a coach is AFTER a season not during it.

[GuvHog]

Stupid decision, if you ask me. Les has the highest winning percentage of any coach that has coached at LSU.

It may be a chance for CBP to get back in the SEC though.

I find it hard to believe that LSU would pay 15 million to buy Les out then pay another 11 Million to buy Bobby Petrino's contract at Lousville out.

I just don't see that happening.

[Nuttcracker, Sweet!]

Houston Nutt IS interested in the job.

What BCS power conference job is Hooten NOT interested in? Of course he's interested, the question is: would LSWho be dumb enough to hire him? I don't think so...

[Chief_Osceola]

I agree with that. I just disagree with your assertion that Jimbo wouldn't leave Florida State because he has more talent to win a NC over the next 2-3 years than what he would have at LSU. How many coaches would get to inherit a Heisman front runner? I would agree though that staying at Florida State would likely give him a better shot at winning another NC but it has more to do with playing in a weaker conference, making it easier to get into the playoff. One thing Fisher will consider also is the fact that he will always be playing second fiddle to Florida in terms of the state's flagship program, an issue he won't have at LSU.

My counter to that would be that we have Dalvin Cook, who is every bit as good as Fournette, and he's only a sophomore too. So he has a Heisman candidate coming back. Also we're a better program than Florida (and Miami) right now. Their status as a program doesn't carry the same weight it did when Urban was coaching, at least from a recruiting standpoint.

[Chief_Osceola]

But like LSU, they've had problems transferring that talent into NC's.  That's one of the chief complaints on Miles at LSU is they feel they have the talent to be better than a 2-3 loss team every year.  What coach wants that kinda of pressure?

We won the national championship 2 years ago and we reached the playoffs last year. This year was supposed to be a rebuilding year, and the next 2-3 years we should be right back in the hunt. FSU is in a better situation right now than LSU.

[Atlhogfan1]

Of course FSU is in a better position.  It is LSU but just farther East down the I10 prime recruiting territory and in a division with some athletic programs who have done some good things on the basketball court outside of Clemson.  Would be foolish for a HC to leave FSU for almost any job.  Public university who has long been lenient on dealing with the "Florida" factor you have to deal with when recruiting that region playing in a conference with small private colleges.  Other than Texas, it is the biggest frontrunner job in college football in terms of advantages. 

[The real Hogules]

Their W's and & L's may be similar, but winning in the SEC is much more difficult than what FSU faces week in and week out.
Just sayin...............................

[riccoar]

We won the national championship 2 years ago and we reached the playoffs last year. This year was supposed to be a rebuilding year, and the next 2-3 years we should be right back in the hunt. FSU is in a better situation right now than LSU.

Rebuild from what?  Your in the ACC.  You've out recruited Clemson since 2008 so what and who in the ACC were you chasing?

[Biggus Piggus]

Jim Mora IV.

[NoNC4Tubs]

My counter to that would be that we have Dalvin Cook, who is every bit as good as Fournette, and he's only a sophomore too. So he has a Heisman candidate coming back. Also we're a better program than Florida (and Miami) right now. Their status as a program doesn't carry the same weight it did when Urban was coaching, at least from a recruiting standpoint.

I would take Fournette over Cook any day of the week and twice on Sundays...

[NoNC4Tubs]

We won the national championship 2 years ago and we reached the playoffs last year. This year was supposed to be a rebuilding year, and the next 2-3 years we should be right back in the hunt. FSU is in a better situation right now than LSU.

That awbern team that ya'll beat two years ago wasn't even the best team in the SEC.

FSU has an easier road to the CFP than does LSU, that is for sure.

[Chief_Osceola]

Rebuild from what?  Your in the ACC.  You've out recruited Clemson since 2008 so what and who in the ACC were you chasing?

You don't set a record for number of players drafted in a 3-year span without a bit of a drop off. This past draft especially.

[Chief_Osceola]

That awbern team that ya'll beat two years ago wasn't even the best team in the SEC.

FSU has an easier road to the CFP than does LSU, that is for sure.

Did Auburn not win the SEC that year? Did they not beat Bama?

I don't dispute the fact that the ACC is not as strong as the SEC top to bottom. I've never said that.

[Chief_Osceola]

I would take Fournette over Cook any day of the week and twice on Sundays...

Why? Cook is better.

[Nuttcracker, Sweet!]

As goofy as Leslie IS, when is the last time an LSU coach averaged a 10-3 record with two NCG appearances and 1 NC over a period of time?

Saban wasn't there that long as we all know, but who besides Leslie had that kind of record there?

I don't see Dumbo Fisher taking the job with the sweet gig he has and no brutal SECW to navigate every year. They have top ranked recruiting classes and I'm not so sure that Osceola isn't right in that Dalvin Cook may be better than Fournette pound for pound.

He's much smaller, but there have been reports of Fournette sitting next year anyway to save himself for the NFL.

Imagine the headache of a new coach having to deal with LF's entourage and "the decision" II, not to mention following a coach with a 110-32 record over 11 seasons...

The corndog fanbase has become increasingly demanding and the saturation coverage by the media even with an NFL team right down the road is not every coach's handful of grass.

My guess is that Leslie goes into TV unless he is determined to coach a few more years. If he does, someone will give him a shot with that record. Maryland or maybe S. Carolina. The Gamehens have made two straight hires of old past-their-prime codgers...

[pigture perfect]

Who is Cook. I've never heard of him. Seriously.

[Chief_Osceola]

Who is Cook. I've never heard of him. Seriously.

Dalvin Cook, aka the best all-purpose back in college football.

[Inhogswetrust]

Who is Cook. I've never heard of him. Seriously.

If you seriously haven't heard of him perhaps you shouldn't be posting on a college football message board even to ask who somebody is.

[Rzbakfromwaybak]

As goofy as Leslie IS, when is the last time an LSU coach averaged a 10-3 record with two NCG appearances and 1 NC over a period of time?

Saban wasn't there that long as we all know, but who besides Leslie had that kind of record there?

I don't see Dumbo Fisher taking the job with the sweet gig he has and no brutal SECW to navigate every year. They have top ranked recruiting classes and I'm not so sure that Osceola isn't right in that Dalvin Cook may be better than Fournette pound for pound.

He's much smaller, but there have been reports of Fournette sitting next year anyway to save himself for the NFL.

Imagine the headache of a new coach having to deal with LF's entourage and "the decision" II, not to mention following a coach with a 110-32 record over 11 seasons...

The corndog fanbase has become increasingly demanding and the saturation coverage by the media even with an NFL team right down the road is not every coach's handful of grass.

My guess is that Leslie goes into TV unless he is determined to coach a few more years. If he does, someone will give him a shot with that record. Maryland or maybe S. Carolina. The Gamehens have made two straight hires of old past-their-prime codgers...

If Les does go into TV as a commentator......wonder who they will have him paired with to explain what he just said?   

[Jack The BN]

All this Jimbo talk is just to throw off USCe while they ink a deal with Rick Laweson.

[riccoar]

Why? Cook is better.

No, he's not.  Fournette is the top dog.  If Fournette were in the ACC he would have 1800 yards rushing rather than 1500+ in the SEC.

[riccoar]

All this Jimbo talk is just to throw off USCe while they ink a deal with Rick Laweson.

I think the Jimbo talk will garner him a nice raise either way.  He's got a great gig at FSU.  I have zero clue why he would want the crazy expectations that would come with LSU.

[razoredge178]

As goofy as Leslie IS, when is the last time an LSU coach averaged a 10-3 record with two NCG appearances and 1 NC over a period of time?

Saban wasn't there that long as we all know, but who besides Leslie had that kind of record there?

I don't see Dumbo Fisher taking the job with the sweet gig he has and no brutal SECW to navigate every year. They have top ranked recruiting classes and I'm not so sure that Osceola isn't right in that Dalvin Cook may be better than Fournette pound for pound.

He's much smaller, but there have been reports of Fournette sitting next year anyway to save himself for the NFL.

Imagine the headache of a new coach having to deal with LF's entourage and "the decision" II, not to mention following a coach with a 110-32 record over 11 seasons...

The corndog fanbase has become increasingly demanding and the saturation coverage by the media even with an NFL team right down the road is not every coach's handful of grass.

My guess is that Leslie goes into TV unless he is determined to coach a few more years. If he does, someone will give him a shot with that record. Maryland or maybe S. Carolina. The Gamehens have made two straight hires of old past-their-prime codgers...

I think you're dead on with Carolina. They'd spill cash to have him. And would appreciate him too. He may be a donkey, but he's done real, real good by way of LSU, and they've been wanting to fire him for the better part of 5+ years.

[hoglady]

This may not be popular, but I think the perfect coach for that LSU program would be Dan Mullen. His system is a good balance of power football with a little bit of modern elements to it. They could improve their offense without gutting their defense with a HUNH approach.

That's what I said when I first heard Miles might be leaving.
LSU would be scary with Mullen - considering what he's done at Ms. St, no telling what he could do at LSU with their recruiting advantages.

[NoNC4Tubs]

Did Auburn not win the SEC that year? Did they not beat Bama?

I don't dispute the fact that the ACC is not as strong as the SEC top to bottom. I've never said that.

Deals with Satan didn't make awbern the best team that year...just the luckiest.

[NoNC4Tubs]

Why? Cook is better.

Through garnet sunglasses maybe...

[NoNC4Tubs]

Dalvin Cook, aka the best all-purpose back in college football.

Hahaha...seriously? Did you even see Fournette this year? 

[NoNC4Tubs]

No, he's not.  Fournette is the top dog.  If Fournette were in the ACC he would have 1800 yards rushing rather than 1500+ in the SEC.

True dat! 

[jbcarol]

Michael Carvell ‏@Carvell_AJC 14h14 hours ago

Report: Les Miles will be fired "as early as Sunday or Monday" http://trib.al/kaPmR9p

Miles will be getting the axe in a matter of days, according to FOX Sports reporter Bruce Feldman, whose message was relayed by ESPN's Peter Burns on Twitter Thursday.

"'I've heard as early as Sunday or Monday, Les Miles will be let go as the coach of LSU' – @BruceFeldmanCFB just now on Texas/Tech pregame," Burns tweeted.

LSU, which debuted at No. 2 in the College Football Playoff rankings just three weeks ago, welcomes Texas A&M to Tiger Stadium on Saturday...

[jbcarol]

Tim Brando ‏@TimBrando Nov 25

LSU's Administration had better prepare itself for one of the BIGGEST IMAGE hits in CFB History. They've mishandled Miles in the worst way!

[NorCalRazorback]

Les Miles will be replaced by Jimbo Fisher and will get a 5 Year for $30M deal, plus a huge budget for hiring any assistant coaches he wants.  How do we think that will impact our Florida recruiting.

[rljjr]

Les Miles will be replaced by Jimbo Fisher and will get a 5 Year for $30M deal, plus a huge budget for hiring any assistant coaches he wants.  How do we think that will impact our Florida recruiting.

Not that I don't think this is a real possibility, but there's nothing scrolling on the SEC network about this. I won't be rude and ask "link" ... but I will wait for confirmation.

It is, however, an interesting topic.

To answer the question we will beat the crap out of any Jimbo Fisher team because the guy is the king of coverup and I can't stand him. His kind always go down in flames. LSU is NOT the hotbed of football that they believe they are. There will be a price to pay for running Les off -- at least for several seasons.

[HiggiePiggy]

Well that will suck because I was hoping less would stay for a few more years. It's always nice knowing that we have a chance against LSU every year no matter how bad our teams are. 

[arkbengal]

Well, Franks has decommitted officially but If it is Jimbo he may get him back or get Malik Henry (?) to swap

[arkbengal]

Dalvin Cook, aka the best all-purpose back in college football.

Negative - that would be Mcafrey (?) from Stanford.

[Dominicanhog]

I don't like FSU.. despise Jumbo but Dalvin Cook is the real deal and a strong case could certainly be made that he is the best back in college.. only other one I would even consider is Forunette.. he will have a nice pro career...

[LSUFan]

Tim Brando ‏@TimBrando Nov 25

LSU's Administration had better prepare itself for one of the BIGGEST IMAGE hits in CFB History. They've mishandled Miles in the worst way!

It will be a cold day in hell before I buy another ticket or make a donation.

[grayhawg]

I'll believe it when I see it, surely even the corn dogs aren't that stupid.

[GoHogs1091]

If they replace Miles with Fisher, then I predict the following will be the LSU Coaching Staff.

Head Coach   Jimbo Fisher

Co-Offensive Coordinator/Quarterbacks   Randy Sanders

Co-Offensive Coordinator/Wide Receivers   Lawrence Dawsey

Offensive Line   Rick Trickett

Special Teams/Running Backs   Jay Graham

Recruiting Coordinator/Tight Ends   Tim Brewster

Defensive Coordinator/Secondary   Will Muschamp

Defensive Tackles   Odell Haggins

Defensive Ends   Ed Orgeron

Linebackers   Bill Miller

I predict LSU's current Running Backs Coach/Recruiting Coordinator, Frank Wilson, will get the Tulane Head Coach job.

[sickboy]

Dalvin Cook, aka the best all-purpose back in college football.

Negative - that would be Mcafrey (?) from Stanford.

Not many people talk about McCaffrey. That kid is unreal. He can do everything on the football field. He's like the modern version of Jim Thorpe.

[LSUFan]

Just saw some of the old money supporters at Sammy's down here.

FWIW

They said Miles is out after Saturday, Jimbo is a done deal and is bringing Muschamp (sp) with him.

[NoNC4Tubs]

Muschamp leaves the dumpster fire down on the plains? Interesting...

[GoHogs1091]

If Fisher is going to LSU (and it is starting to look that will happen), a big key for Fisher will be for him to bring Lawrence Dawsey, Odell Haggins, and Tim Brewster.

Dawsey can flat out recruit.  Haggins is probably a top 5 in the nation Defensive Tackles Coach.  Brewster is a very good recruiter.  Fisher will probably keep Ed Orgeron (unless he gets a head coaching job).  With Dawsey, Brewster, and Orgeron, it could very well be the best recruiting Staff in the SEC.