Portis did not say he was coming back

[JonClaudeVanHam]

Nowhere in his post-game interview did he say that. He said "If I come back" more than once and talked about the decision would be made by he, his mom, and his mentor.

No offense to Dudley, but that is some terrible reporting. If Bobby leaves now some fans will say he went against his own word even though he never said what was reported.

[LJHOG]

Unless he is getting some really bad advice he will be back.  His game is NOT NBA ready.

[k.c.hawg]

Unless he is getting some really bad advice he will be back.  His game is NOT NBA ready.

If he gets paid and he leaves he got some really good advice.

[SA Hog Fan]

I think he will be advised to go and ultimately enter the draft, but I am concerned that he may have played himself out of a lottery pick in the last 2 weeks.

[jry04]

Unless he is getting some really bad advice he will be back.  His game is NOT NBA ready.

He will make millions if he comes out now. Hard to call that bad advice.

[jimmur74]

I think he will be advised to go and ultimately enter the draft, but I am concerned that he may have played himself out of a lottery pick in the last 2 weeks.

He was never a lottery pick

[LJHOG]

If he gets paid and he leaves he got some really good advice.

Yeah, if.

[Athog]

Unless he is getting some really bad advice he will be back.  His game is NOT NBA ready.

That is assuming he can't get in the NBA what he ca get here. Also one can't assume to know the financial aspect of the decision.

[uptownhog]

Thanks for posting what I was thinking.

[k.c.hawg]

Yeah, if.

That is what the decision will be based on. For a guy that has done two years in college ball you are ready when they will pay you. At that point you get your game NBA ready working out, practicing and playing with professionals not with weak high school players entering college.

[TheOtherColombia]

Go ahead and call me a hater or butt hurt Missouri fan or whatever else you want to call me, but BP needs to go the NBA.  MA, I think we all agree, is a system coach and the system isn't geared toward developing big men.  BP has tons of potential and needs NBA coaching and strength training.  Repeating as SEC POTY isn't going to be easy and there is always the potential for injury or even regression if he stays.  I don't think he would regress at all, but it is very possible that he has hit his ceiling in MA's system.   

[rzrbackramsfan]

He was never a lottery pick

What's a lottery pick?  ESPN has him projected 16th I believe or maybe it was draft express.

[The real Hogules]

Go ahead and call me a hater or butt hurt Missouri fan or whatever else you want to call me, but BP needs to go the NBA.  MA, I think we all agree, is a system coach and the system isn't geared toward developing big men.  BP has tons of potential and needs NBA coaching and strength training.  Repeating as SEC POTY isn't going to be easy and there is always the potential for injury or even regression if he stays.  I don't think he would regress at all, but it is very possible that he has hit his ceiling in MA's system.   

Hater!

[jry04]

Nowhere in his post-game interview did he say that. He said "If I come back" more than once and talked about the decision would be made by he, his mom, and his mentor.

No offense to Dudley, but that is some terrible reporting. If Bobby leaves now some fans will say he went against his own word even though he never said what was reported.

Maybe Dudley was saying Bobby told him? Portis talked to multiple members of the media. Dudley is not always the most accurate, but I feel pretty confident he would not tweet something like that without Bobby actually saying it to him.

Immediately after the game, in the locker room, he said he would have to sit with his family and mentor and all of that. However, later, at the NCAA press conference, he said this loss sucks because now he has to wait until next season to play again. He said they made the NIT last year, the round of 32 this year, and could win a championship next year. That goes with his top 10 comment when he spoke to the local media in the locker room.

[silverandbluedc]

What's a lottery pick?  ESPN has him projected 16th I believe or maybe it was draft express.

I believe a lottery pick is top 14. Most early projections have BP going 17-24 and who knows if he drops due to struggles over past 2 weeks. Staying, getting stronger, and improving his overall game could get him to be a top 10 pick next year which be a million dollar decision. If he goes top 5 next year, he could improve his earnings by multiple millions. The argument against is money now compared to an unknown future injury that could hurt his draft stock.

[40MINSOFHELL]

Nowhere in his post-game interview did he say that. He said "If I come back" more than once and talked about the decision would be made by he, his mom, and his mentor.

No offense to Dudley, but that is some terrible reporting. If Bobby leaves now some fans will say he went against his own word even though he never said what was reported.

He didn't say he was leaving either

[JonClaudeVanHam]

He didn't say he was leaving either

Did I say he was or that this meant he was? No.

I'm simply calling out the media for spreading misinformation.

[jry04]

Did I say he was or that this meant he was? No.

I'm simply calling out the media for spreading misinformation.

You do not know it was misinformation, though. Just because a camera and microphone wasn't stuck in his face when he said it, does not mean he did not say it. Again, Dudley is around the program a lot. I do not think he would make a tweet like that if Bobby never said it. I can promise you Bobby saw what Dudley said, and could easily call Dudley out for it if it was untrue. The last thing Bobby would want is people thinking he is coming back if he is undecided, or sure he is going pro.

[TNhogfan]

What Dudley tweeted is what Portis said in answering a question in the post game press conference.  Madden answered first, then Qualls and finished with Portis.  The losing team's coach and three players are brought immediately to the press room for a press conference. CBS-SN showed Anderson's opening remarks and the first 2 or 3 questions for the players before going back to March Madness 360. Later in the show, they showed Anderson's post-game speech to the team.  When the losing team finishes with the PC, then the coach and those 3 players join the rest of the team in the locker room for individual interviews with primarily the local press.

Anderson's post-game talk was great.  He thanked the team on behalf of the university and the fans for bringing Razorback basketball back; said 27 times they got it right this season; he said he knew they were hurting, but it was supposed to hurt so they would remember what it's like.  CBS-SN talked up Anderson, the Hogs and the being on the inside with them for the week.  Pete Gillen said several times that Anderson is one of his favorite coaches; the others all talked about how he is changing the program.  Between basketball team being talked about positively on several shows on CBS-SN and CBB having a weekly segment on College Football Live on ESPNU last season, the Hogs have gotten some good positive publicity with these two coaches.

[lrcentral]

Portis has no business in the NBA yet. He hasn't taken over any game that really mattered. He will get eaten alive in the NBA. He needs to come back and get Stronger. He will be lucky to have a journeyman's career like Ronnie Brewer.

[jry04]

Portis has no business in the NBA yet. He hasn't taken over any game that really mattered. He will get eaten alive in the NBA. He needs to come back and get Stronger. He will be lucky to have a journeyman's career like Ronnie Brewer.

It isn't about whether he can play in it now or not. He will get drafted, and make over $1mil/year if he goes now. If he goes, he certainly has a good reason to do so. He can develop in the NBA while making millions, and be 1 year closer to the 2nd contract which will be worth more. However, he seems to want to leave a legacy at Arkansas, and take us as far as he could. He doesn't seem too obsessed with playing in the NBA right now. We will see.

[Karma]

Portis has no business in the NBA yet. He hasn't taken over any game that really mattered. He will get eaten alive in the NBA. He needs to come back and get Stronger. He will be lucky to have a journeyman's career like Ronnie Brewer.

The Ronnie Brewer that's been paid $20 million?

http://m.bkref.com/m?p=XXplayersXXbXXbrewero02.html&t=17

[k.c.hawg]

You do not know it was misinformation, though. Just because a camera and microphone wasn't stuck in his face when he said it, does not mean he did not say it. Again, Dudley is around the program a lot. I do not think he would make a tweet like that if Bobby never said it. I can promise you Bobby saw what Dudley said, and could easily call Dudley out for it if it was untrue. The last thing Bobby would want is people thinking he is coming back if he is undecided, or sure he is going pro.

A camera and a microphone was stuck in his face and after many references to wanting to be the greatest Razorback, wanting to come back home in 20 years and it being like it was for Corliss he finally said 'if I come back we could be a Top 10 team". He also indicated that there is a process that has to be gone through of sitting down with Coach A, his mom and his mentor and deciding what was best for himself and the Razorbacks. He then stated it is not about me anymore it is about what is best for my family. Now I will state the last of this is paraphrased and not an accurate quote. In Dawson's defense BP made many references to coming back but to not also quote him statifing "if I come back" is irresponsible journalism and in several months could have people claiming BP didn't keep his word.

[k.c.hawg]

The Ronnie Brewer that's been paid $20 million?

http://m.bkref.com/m?p=XXplayersXXbXXbrewero02.html&t=17

Don't give them facts they will not understand. Lets see, you grow up all your life wanting to be a basketball player. You get offered to get an early start on your career and do your internship with the best players in the world. Oh yeah, we'll pay you several million during your internship. Sounds like he should pass on that doesn't it.

[Hawg Red]

If you think you have to be NBA-ready to go to the NBA, you haven't been paying attention for well over a decade. If you think players have to develop in college before going to the NBA, you haven't been paying attention for at least 5 years and maybe more. If a player can produce well enough or show enough potential to get drafted in the lottery or the mid-first round safely, then it's probably a sound decision for them to go pro because, with the increased role the D-League now plays, they can develop in the NBA. Lottery teams are committed to playing younh players and many team utilize the D-League, even for some lottery picks. The player gets access to NBA strength and conditioning programs and they get more coaching.

[Sharky]

I think he will be advised to go and ultimately enter the draft, but I am concerned that he may have played himself out of a lottery pick in the last 2 weeks.

Lottery pick matters less than first round. First round contracts are set up players for success in the NBA by giving them two years guaranteed salary (thus two years of development time). Second round players don't get that guarantee.

[ErieHog]

Portis has no business in the NBA yet. He hasn't taken over any game that really mattered. He will get eaten alive in the NBA. He needs to come back and get Stronger. He will be lucky to have a journeyman's career like Ronnie Brewer.

You don't prove your NBA chops by 'taking over a college game that matters'.   You prove it by demonstrating a definable set of NBA skills.      Sometimes you see guys who are eminently suited to the college game, and can't transition to the NBA for that reason; sometimes you see guys eminently suited to the NBA game, who don't blow up the college game because they're not asked to do what they'll do as pros.

[HappyHogFan]

You don't prove your NBA chops by 'taking over a college game that matters'.   You prove it by demonstrating a definable set of NBA skills.      Sometimes you see guys who are eminently suited to the college game, and can't transition to the NBA for that reason; sometimes you see guys eminently suited to the NBA game, who don't blow up the college game because they're not asked to do what they'll do as pros.

From Arkansas , Corliss would be an excellent example of the former, while Joe Johnson would be of the latter

[Etowah]

Hawg Red is correct, they draft in the NBA on potential...and BP has a ton of that.  He will be a high draft pick...not sure about a lottery pick...but first half of first round...make a ton of money and then it will be in his second or third year in the NBA when he is really contributing....but he is going to get paid to develop while being in the nba.

I know we want him back...we can kid ourselves into thinking he is coming back...but as Jed Clampett once said...they going to pay in that "new" kind of money...called "millions dollars".

[GuvHog]

If you think you have to be NBA-ready to go to the NBA, you haven't been paying attention for well over a decade. If you think players have to develop in college before going to the NBA, you haven't been paying attention for at least 5 years and maybe more. If a player can produce well enough or show enough potential to get drafted in the lottery or the mid-first round safely, then it's probably a sound decision for them to go pro because, with the increased role the D-League now plays, they can develop in the NBA. Lottery teams are committed to playing younh players and many team utilize the D-League, even for some lottery picks. The player gets access to NBA strength and conditioning programs and they get more coaching.

You're kidding right??? NBA Lottery picks don't go to the D league, they are NBA ready when they are drafted. No NBA team will waste a lottery pick on a D league player.

[HappyHogFan]

Hawg Red is correct, they draft in the NBA on potential...and BP has a ton of that.  He will be a high draft pick...not sure about a lottery pick...but first half of first round...make a ton of money and then it will be in his second or third year in the NBA when he is really contributing....but he is going to get paid to develop while being in the nba.

I know we want him back...we can kid ourselves into thinking he is coming back...but as Jed Clampett once said...they going to pay in that "new" kind of money...called "millions dollars".

ALL of that could be negated by the simple fact that his momma wants him to get that degree. Personally, I think he goes pro , too much money not to. But when momma wants you to get that degree....

[azhog10]

If you think you have to be NBA-ready to go to the NBA, you haven't been paying attention for well over a decade. If you think players have to develop in college before going to the NBA, you haven't been paying attention for at least 5 years and maybe more. If a player can produce well enough or show enough potential to get drafted in the lottery or the mid-first round safely, then it's probably a sound decision for them to go pro because, with the increased role the D-League now plays, they can develop in the NBA. Lottery teams are committed to playing younh players and many team utilize the D-League, even for some lottery picks. The player gets access to NBA strength and conditioning programs and they get more coaching.

Very true! But scouts aren't looking at BP bc they think he has a high ceiling. It's actually bc they think he's more developed now than some of the other players in his position. However their are more with a higher ceiling in their eyes. So if BP goes and gets drafted high it's not bc what they think he will be become. But bc of what he is now.

[lefty08]

None of us have any clue what he said. The dude speaks without cameras in his face from time to time

Just give these threads a rest, the pissing matches that ensue can be done on private messaging

[GuvHog]

I believe a lottery pick is top 14. Most early projections have BP going 17-24 and who knows if he drops due to struggles over past 2 weeks. Staying, getting stronger, and improving his overall game could get him to be a top 10 pick next year which be a million dollar decision. If he goes top 5 next year, he could improve his earnings by multiple millions. The argument against is money now compared to an unknown future injury that could hurt his draft stock.

Not correct. The 14 teams that did not make the playoffs draw to decide which teams will pick #1, #2, and #3. Those 3 are lottery picks. Once the 3 lottery teams have been decided, the rest go by their records. The team with the worst record of the teams left picks 4th and so on.

[870hogfan]

Go ahead and call me a hater or butt hurt Missouri fan or whatever else you want to call me, but BP needs to go the NBA.  MA, I think we all agree, is a system coach and the system isn't geared toward developing big men.  BP has tons of potential and needs NBA coaching and strength training.  Repeating as SEC POTY isn't going to be easy and there is always the potential for injury or even regression if he stays.  I don't think he would regress at all, but it is very possible that he has hit his ceiling in MA's system.   

Um didn't you say Mike would go one and done in the SEC Tournament and the NCAAT?

[ErieHog]

Not correct. The 14 teams that did not make the playoffs draw to decide which teams will pick #1, #2, and #3. Those 3 are lottery picks. Once the 3 lottery teams have been decided, the rest go by their records. The team with the worst record of the teams left picks 4th and so on.

Sigh.  Just no, Guv.   If you don't make the playoffs, you are a lottery team.    You get a ping pong ball in the mix--  it doesn't matter if you get your ping pong ball to decide one of the top 3 picks-- anyone taken by a team that has a ball in the lottery, is a lottery pick.

[popcornhog]

Unless he is getting some really bad advice he will be back.  His game is NOT NBA ready.

NBA scouts disagree.

You're right, of course, to some extent. But really he just needs to put on a few pounds and get a little tougher on the low post. NBA coaches can help him with that. If he goes pro right now, most scouts have him getting drafted between 12-20th. He may not have a huge rookie season, but by the end of his rookie year/beginning of his second year, he'll be a good NBA player.

If I am him, I probably go pro. I hope that he makes the wrong decision, stays, doesn't get hurt, and is a top 10 pick after leading us to the final four next year.

[popcornhog]

He was never a lottery pick

The projections I've seen throughout the year have been in the range of 12 - 20. That's an outside shot at a lottery pick.

[popcornhog]

He didn't say he was leaving either

Of course he didn't. He said that he hasn't decided yet.

Dudley said that he said he was coming back.

See the incongruence between Dudley's tweet and Portis's comments?

It's possible that Portis told Dudley he's coming back though.

[popcornhog]

Not correct. The 14 teams that did not make the playoffs draw to decide which teams will pick #1, #2, and #3. Those 3 are lottery picks. Once the 3 lottery teams have been decided, the rest go by their records. The team with the worst record of the teams left picks 4th and so on.

Face palm!

[TheOtherColombia]

Um didn't you say Mike would go one and done in the SEC Tournament and the NCAAT?

Second person that has brought this up...what exactly does that have to do with whether BP will go pro or not?  Several other people thought the same thing.  He did better than I thought he would, he did better than several of your fans thought he would. 

[secfan30]

Not correct. The 14 teams that did not make the playoffs draw to decide which teams will pick #1, #2, and #3. Those 3 are lottery picks. Once the 3 lottery teams have been decided, the rest go by their records. The team with the worst record of the teams left picks 4th and so on.

What?

[PonderinHog]

What?

It's called a "guvism."

[Karma]

You're kidding right??? NBA Lottery picks don't go to the D league, they are NBA ready when they are drafted. No NBA team will waste a lottery pick on a D league player.

The number one pick in the draft to Cleveland 2 years ago has been in the D league.

[JonClaudeVanHam]

Not correct. The 14 teams that did not make the playoffs draw to decide which teams will pick #1, #2, and #3. Those 3 are lottery picks. Once the 3 lottery teams have been decided, the rest go by their records. The team with the worst record of the teams left picks 4th and so on.

This is one of those posts that makes me think Guvhog is an elaborate troll.

[majestic]

This is one of those posts that makes me think Guvhog is an elaborate troll.

Naw, he's just a confused old guy.

[Smokehouse]

I think he will be advised to go and ultimately enter the draft, but I am concerned that he may have played himself out of a lottery pick in the last 2 weeks.

NBA scouts have two years of film on Portis, not including anything before college. Two weeks isn't going to move the needle.

[ErieHog]

The number one pick in the draft to Cleveland 2 years ago has been in the D league.

If you mean Anthony Bennett, no.  He never went to the D League.   He did play summer league ball for the Cavs, but has been with a NBA team the entire time.

[Karma]

If you mean Anthony Bennett, no.  He never went to the D League.   He did play summer league ball for the Cavs, but has been with a NBA team the entire time.

You're correct. I really thought he had.

[WPS501]

ALL of that could be negated by the simple fact that his momma wants him to get that degree. Personally, I think he goes pro , too much money not to. But when momma wants you to get that degree....

momma wants that nba contract