Why is a new practice facility that important.

[snortman]

Exploding into a superpower would've meant not going 0-4 against THE superpower (Alabama), 2-2 against LSU (only could beat them in LR), and 1-3 against both Georgia and Florida, albeit the '09 Florida game was a sham.

The only good SEC teams that Petrino handled were S. Carolina and A&M, with those wins coming pre-Sumlin & Johnny Football, also in a heavily-red Cowboys Stadium.

Petrino's road record in SEC games in four years: 6-10 (.375). Very similar to basketball. Mediocre.

Really, so your comparing SEC football with 6 National Championships in a row and the toughest league by far(not even close ) to SEC Baskestball which is rated at BEST, the 6th best conference in the country, Apples to Oranges ---Not even close in comparison.
Petrino>>>>>>>Anderson.

Anderson couldn't even handle a crappy ass S Carolina or A&M team on the road.

[nextlevel]

Anderson couldn't even handle a crappy ass S Carolina or A&M team on the road.

Kinda like Petrino not being able to handle Kentucky or Ms. State on the road?

Being blown out in Texas?

Needing Ole Miss and Vandy to choke a way wins in his final season?

[MikePiazza]

Really, so your comparing SEC football with 6 National Championships in a row and the toughest league by far(not even close ) to SEC Baskestball which is rated at BEST, the 6th best conference in the country, Apples to Oranges ---Not even close in comparison.
Petrino>>>>>>>Anderson.

Anderson couldn't even handle a crappy ass S Carolina or A&M team on the road.

You can defend that deceitful scumbag to the death for all I care.

The facts are that we weren't a exploding superpower. Our best season under Petrino got us a third place finish in our division. Think about that for a second.

[klp1]

You can defend that deceitful scumbag to the death for all I care.

The facts are that we weren't a exploding superpower. Our best season under Petrino got us a third place finish in our division. Think about that for a second.

The irony is that the third place division finishing team was good enough to be ranked 5th in the Nation in the AP's Final Poll

[MikePiazza]

The irony is that the third place division finishing team was good enough to be ranked 5th in the Nation in the AP's Final Poll

And then the 'Great Deceiver' committed his folly and the NUMBER 10 RANKED AP team crumbled to 4-8.

Your point?

[Inhogswetrust]

Because they had Barnhill next door at their disposal.  At that time, they didn't forsee that facility getting used for VB and other stuff.

Also, the land that will be used for the practice facility was all apartments.  It was eventually cleared for Bogle Park, The Common's and the rest for development.

On a side note some people wanted to keep those apartments as ugly as they were just because of who the architect was!

[Hawg Balling]

On a side note some people wanted to keep those apartments as ugly as they were just because of who the architect was!

Are you talking about Carlson Terrace?  Jeebus H, that place was a dump and a half. 

[klp1]

And then the 'Great Deceiver' committed his folly and the NUMBER 10 RANKED AP team crumbled to 4-8.

Your point?

Pay attention to the Word "irony."  You downgrade that team by saying it was only a finished 3rd in its division.  Yet, that team finished ranked number 5 in the Nation for the first time since 1977. 

[Porked Tongue]

On a side note some people wanted to keep those apartments as ugly as they were just because of who the architect was!

Some cheap rent for grad students. 

[snortman]

You can defend that deceitful scumbag to the death for all I care.

The facts are that we weren't a exploding superpower. Our best season under Petrino got us a third place finish in our division. Think about that for a second.

I for one am grateful for what Coach Petrino brought to us true U of A fans. That BSC bowl may be the only one I ever see. He made winning feel good again even though we never could get by Bama,(But who did?).

Anderson on the other hand has been disappointing at best, consisdering all the BS talk about how we would be dancing again and be top 20 again.

[Inhogswetrust]

Are you talking about Carlson Terrace?  Jeebus H, that place was a dump and a half. 

Yep. You are correct. Amazing they were designed by a well known architect Edward Durell Stone. Probably his ugliest and worst design ever!

[Inhogswetrust]

Some cheap rent for grad students. 

Stone also did the U of A Fine Arts building and worked on the old Busch stadium that was demolished not to long ago with the opening of the new Busch Stadium. His most well-known recognized work is the J.F.K. Center for the Performing Arts in Washington D.C. 

[Sivad]

Petrino's road record in SEC games in four years: 6-10 (.375). Very similar to basketball. Mediocre.

Petrino: BCS Sugar Bowl & Cotton Bowl Champion; Top 5 Final Ranking.
Anderson: Can't even make the NIT; Never sniffed a ranking.

[PonderinHog]

Petrino: BCS Sugar Bowl & Cotton Bowl Champion; Top 5 Final Ranking.
Anderson: Can't even make the NIT; Never sniffed a ranking.

In year two, Bobby BARELY beat ECU in the Liberty Bowl.  It was a gift from above - or wide left or wide right or something.

[870hogfan]

Really, so your comparing SEC football with 6 National Championships in a row and the toughest league by far(not even close ) to SEC Baskestball which is rated at BEST, the 6th best conference in the country, Apples to Oranges ---Not even close in comparison.
Petrino>>>>>>>Anderson.

Anderson couldn't even handle a crappy ass S Carolina or A&M team on the road.

Petrino is a scum bag that put himself before the program, fans, and the players but yeah keep taking up for him.... Mike Anderson is turning a basketball program around that has been down for more than 10 years.

[snortman]

Petrino is a scum bag that put himself before the program, fans, and the players but yeah keep taking up for him.... Mike Anderson is turning a basketball program around that has been down for more than 10 years.

What Petrino did was reprehensible, no doubt, but in three years he made U of A football relevant again in the world of college football while Anderson has failed to move the needle. Those are the facts.

[MikePiazza]

What Petrino did was reprehensible, no doubt, but in three years he made U of A football relevant again in the world of college football while Anderson has failed to move the needle. Those are the facts.

He made us relevant only to be a laughingstock because of his own selfish decisions, thinking he was bigger than the program. He didn't win any championships and wouldn't have.

Hang your hat all you want on that national ranking and Cotton Bowl win, but realize that was the peak. It wouldn't have gotten any better. Just look at history.

Anderson has more class in his little finger than Petrino has in his entire body, and was instrumental in making our basketball program elite for an entire decade.

Downgrade Anderson all you want, but I'll take some mediocre seasons while building over a dumpster fire after four seasons, which is all Petrino's track record is...

[Porked Tongue]

I like to read the entire book.  One book is closed and the other has chapters left.  Hard conclusions based on comparison's are not prudent.

[MikePiazza]

I agree, but I like to look at trends, and even though revisionist history says we were trending upward with Petrino, the reality was the talent that left after 2011 was going to be too hard to replace and his recruiting was lazy.

Whereas with Anderson, he has a proven history of his programs trending upward after a year or two, and the bottom won't fall out after year four.

[RazorWorld]

I recently spoke with a student athlete and was surprised to hear this young man was not going to come to Arkansas until he made a visit and saw our track facilities and our beautiful modern campus. He was impressed with the NWA area and the rolling hills as he described it. He said he fell in love with it and loves it here. He was glad someone told him to make a visit.

The best programs have the best facilities. We must always strive to be ahead not behind on our development. We should have done this for our Basketball program before now.

[Sivad]

You can defend that deceitful scumbag to the death for all I care.

The facts are that we weren't a exploding superpower. Our best season under Petrino got us a third place finish in our division. Think about that for a second.

Petrino finished the season ranked #5 in the country.

[Sivad]

Whereas with Anderson, he has a proven history of his programs trending upward after a year or two, and the bottom won't fall out after year four.

With Anderson, there is no "bottom to fall out"...he has not even coached us to an NIT or even one SEC tourney game win.
He already has us at "rock bottom".

[870hogfan]

With Anderson, there is no "bottom to fall out"...he has not even coached us to an NIT or even one SEC tourney game win.
He already has us at "rock bottom".

"Rock Bottom" is Auburn.

[MikePiazza]

Petrino finished the season ranked #5 in the country.

Meant a lot after he ran our program into the ground, didn't it?

Rankings mean nothing. You think Saban cares about rankings? All he does is win every game or nearly every game.

Hanging your hat on rankings is for wanna-be programs, and that's what our football program is in the SEC. Always have been, always will be.

[CDBHawg]

Meant a lot after he ran our program into the ground, didn't it?

Rankings mean nothing. You think Saban cares about rankings? All he does is win every game or nearly every game.

Hanging your hat on rankings is for wanna-be programs, and that's what our football program is in the SEC. Always have been, always will be.

A. Rankings mean something.
B. Saban care about ranking? Of course he does.
C. We are not a wanna-be program. There are many facts to disprove that notion, the main one being common sense.

[MikePiazza]

A. Rankings mean something.
B. Saban care about ranking? Of course he does.
C. We are not a wanna-be program. There are many facts to disprove that notion, the main one being common sense.

Point them out, then? Zero SEC titles. One BCS bowl appearance in 15 years, which we *lost. Only one LEGITIMATE trip to Atlanta, where we crapped the bed after getting up on Florida.

Yeah, one top five finish in 21 years as a SEC member. What about that screams exploding superpower? This is who we're behind and facility upgrades aren't going to do anything to change that.

1) Bama
2) LSU
3) Fla
4) A&M (and rising fast)
5) UGA
6) AU
7) Tenn
USC-E
9) Ark

We're about the ninth-best program in the SEC. Maybe Bielema changes that, and if he does, I'll be stoked, but history says he probably won't and we'll be right where we've always been.

[nextlevel]

A. Rankings mean something.
B. Saban care about ranking? Of course he does.
C. We are not a wanna-be program. There are many facts to disprove that notion, the main one being common sense.

Can you tell me, without looking it up, who finished 5th the year before and after Arkansas did?

Probably not because only wanna-be programs point to a 5th place finish in the polls as a "glory year", real programs point to conference and National titles. This is true of all sports.

[HawgAdvocate]

Can you tell me, without looking it up, who finished 5th the year before and after Arkansas did?

Probably not because only wanna-be programs point to a 5th place finish in the polls as a "glory year", real programs point to conference and National titles. This is true of all sports.

Of course, the recruits who were recruited and/or signed by those 5th ranked schools (Ohio State and Texas A&M/Georgia) certainly remember. That matters 100x more than whatever memory 'Joe Fan' from another state can recollect.

[MikePiazza]

Of course, the recruits who were recruited and/or signed by those 5th ranked schools (Ohio State and Texas A&M/Georgia) certainly remember. That matters 100x more than whatever memory 'Joe Fan' from another state can recollect.

Good point. I didn't even mention recruiting. We've always been about ninth in the SEC there as well. Maybe Bielema changes that, too, but it's unlikely.

[CDBHawg]

Can you tell me, without looking it up, who finished 5th the year before and after Arkansas did?

Probably not because only wanna-be programs point to a 5th place finish in the polls as a "glory year", real programs point to conference and National titles. This is true of all sports.

Ohio St. and aTm/UGA.

[MikePiazza]

Ohio St. and aTm/UGA.

Plagiarism